Chargers vs. Patriots, Q & A
Hi all, I am from the Chargers blog, 'Bolts from the Blue'. We are going to try a question and answer format. I'll start off by giving an overview of the Chargers. The season started off rough with the loss of Shawne Merriman for the season. We signed Jyles Tucker to fill in, but he will also be out this week with a hamstring injury. Marques Harris is now filling in, and while certainly he is not Merriman has been doing well at outside linebacker. The defense has been very inconsistent. In the first game against the Panthers they moved on us early, the defense played better in the second half, but melted for the last second touchdown. That was also the story against Denver. The last two weeks the defense has played better; but the offense has struggled, managing only 10 points at Miami. The downfall of the defense has been tight end, they have burned us repeatedly. The defense seems to play better man to man, but our defensive coordinator, Cottrell tends towards caution and we get chewed up in soft zone coverage a lot.
The offense has been amazing at times, hitting deep and medium pass plays spread between a lot of different targets; and when we can get Sproles (our speedster returner and backup running back) in space he has the chance to break off big plays. LT has not yet recovered from a toe injury suffered in the first game against Miami and has been averaging a yard less per carry this year. That production clearly was a factor in Miami, as was losing Chris Chambers in the third quarter. It is unlikely Chambers will start this week, but the Bolts do have reasonable depth with Buster Davis and Legedu Naanee, both of whom have shown flashes of real talent. The bottom line is that as Charger fans we are waiting for a full sixty minutes of football, this team has played well in sections, but not consistently; this Sunday will be a big test. Ok, go ahead and fire away with any questions.
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the statement
I am perhaps going to speak blasphemy here, but I ran this by my Charger friend and he said I had a point.
Darren Sproles > LaDanien Tomlinson
I do believe this, and while LT has been a force over the past years, I think it’s evident he is past his prime. From my perspective as an enemy, Sproles is who I’m terrified of. He has a Marshall Faulk-like ability to make people miss, and should be getting many more touches.
If Norv Turner wants to turn the season around, he needs to embrace the youthful Sproles when the game is on the line, and not LT. I know you can’t exactly say LT has blown games, but I feel his does not spark (pun intended) the team as he used too. Granted perhaps Sproles does not have the bulldozer mentality that some backs thrive on, though I can’t say for sure, but I can’t say for sure LT has that anymore either. You can blame LT’s toe for his lack of zazz, but somehow that excuse seems hollow to me…he is what he is, and right now he’s not looking scary.
Do you think I’m crazy?
by Mainiac on
Oct 8, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
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LT has not been as productive
I would say right now, Sproles is the bigger threat to break off a deep run. He is not as good in short yardage situations, but when he gets ‘in space’ he can absolutely burn up the field. There are two schools of thought on LT. One is that he is finally feeling the impact of all the hits and hard yards and has lost a step. People were saying that in 2006 as well, LT has had slow starts some years. You may find it hollow, but to me the toe injury has toned down what he can do on the field as far as making folks miss and gaining those extra yards. I base that mostly off of his game against the Panthers where he bounced what should have been a three yard loss for a ten yard gain and looked as fast (or very close to it) as he ever was to me. He averaged 4.6 yards per carry against a good Panther defense in that first game.
The other thing that has hampered the running game in general are the injuries on the offensive line. Nick Hardwick and Marcus McNeil both Pro Bowlers were not in the first games, and while they are back now have not looked like they are up to speed. I agree with you on both points, LT is not as scary right now and it would be better for Sproles to see more carries. It’s just the diagnosis I question; my belief is LT is going to return to form and it is mostly the injury that is hampering his productivity. I will say that his best statistical years are most likely behind him; time will tell if he is really just an average back now.
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on
Oct 8, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
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Editorial note
Gang, please “rec” this so it stays at the top of the fanposts.
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by MaPatsFan on
Oct 8, 2008 3:50 PM EDT
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Thoughts on playcalling?
Less of a game breakdown question and more of a community/vibe question: What’s the pulse of the San Diego fan base right now with regards to the offensive playcalling? How satisfied or dissatisfied are Chargers fans with Norv Turner and his management of the game? Some of the comments on this week’s previews from Bolts fans seemed to indicate frustration with repetitiveness and predictability — to what extent are the fans blaming the Chargers’ woes on gameplan rather than execution?
by jctsai12 on
Oct 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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There are some
that were unhappy with the play calling in Miami. The first three games the offense looked very good; against Oakland there was some grumbling about the first half. In Miami there was more discontent with the number and timing of the running plays called. Going up the middle on 4th and one at the goal was what set most off, we had been getting handled at the Oline all day. There is the belief among bolts fans that this is a talented squad, so when it doesn’t perform some question the game plan. On Bolts from the Blue there were more posts citing a lack of physicality and the inability to play 60 good minutes on both sides of the ball by the players.
I have seen more questions about the defensive play calling (maybe because I have posted a lot of it). :-) There is some dissatisfaction with Norv so far; there are a couple of folks that would like to see Norv gone. If the Patriots beat us on Sunday, I expect that sentiment to grow; but Norv is AJs choice, he will be with us for a while.
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on
Oct 8, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
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Top 3 2008 acquisitions
Give us a rundown of your top 3 2008 acquisitions, draftee or FA, and why you think they’re that important to the team.
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by MaPatsFan on
Oct 9, 2008 12:25 PM EDT
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Acquisitions
Our number one draft choice was corner back Antoine Cason. Right now he comes in as the nickel back and has looked extremely good. He has forced a couple of fumbles with big hits, come up big on a fourth and goal and a big interception at Denver. It was big that he is playing as well as he is because we lost Drayton Florence to Free Agency last year, and although he made mistakes he was a solid defensive back. Actually this choice is probably a back handed compliment for the Patriots, it is generally acknowledged that AJ is trying to craft this team to get past New England.
The second big acquisition was a surprise free agent fullback, Mike Tolbert. He was just supposed to fill in for Pinnock who was recovering from a microfracture, but once he played with the first string they ended up releasing Pinnock. He has great hands coming out of the backfield, but has been a little inconsistent with his blocks. Sometimes he levels folks, but not all the time.
The last acquisition we got was Jacob Hester; we traded up with the Patriots to get him. NE certainly extracted a good price for him; so far it’s hard to judge if it was worth it. He has shown flashes, but also looked mediocre in preseason. He has hardly seen the ball in the regular season, but has made some great tackles on special teams. The hope is that he will be the short yardage guy, but he is still a big question mark at this point in the year.
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on
Oct 9, 2008 1:07 PM EDT
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The Chargers are favored to win Sunday
as they have been favored to beat us in the past. Fans from New England view this as a must-win game for us to put together two wins in a row and keep us from falling into that mediocre .500 trap. Your newsrag calls it a must-win for the Chargers too (although I don’t know how many “we-don’t need-this-win” games there are in the league.) Do you think this particular game is a make-or-break point for the Chargers?
Also, LT has said that Pats-Chargers isn’t a rivalry. I know my crowd sees it as one of the best that we really look forward to watching. How about the Bolts crowd? Do you see this as a rivalry between the two teams?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Oct 9, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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I consider it a must win
Perhaps not for the season, though those hopes are on thin ice too, but certainly for the post season. If the Chargers are unable to beat the Patriots in San Diego with home field advantage and Brady out you have to wonder when they will ever be able to beat them. The Chargers are a little banged up, but with our record at 2-3, and Denver playing well another loss could spell the end of our division hopes too.
I think LT is trying not to create any more bulletin board material for New England, but after ending our post season the last two years I don’t think there is a regular season game that means more to the players this year, certainly I think it’s the most important game of the regular season. LT took some heat for saying he was circling the regular season date on last years schedule after New England proceeded to put the beat down on the Bolts. In the local rag they did a poll and Denver stood at 45% as our biggest rival, the Pats at 39; New England is still number one with me though. :-)
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on
Oct 9, 2008 1:27 PM EDT
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where's the D?
As a Pats fan, when facing the Chargers there are always two things it seems we can take for granted: your bigtime playmakers on offense, and a tough, nasty defense. This chat has focused mostly on the offense so far, so I want to ask about the D.
What the heck has happened to the vaunted Chargers defense?
A mediocre #18 in rushing defense, a horrible #28 in total defense, and a shocking #32 in pass defense (!!!) What’s going on, and do you have a sense of what you guys need to do to turn things around on that side of the ball?
by JohnPaul on
Oct 10, 2008 9:07 AM EDT
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Defense
Good points, there are a number of factors that have led to a much less credible defense. One is the loss of Shawne Merriman, he had about 40 sacks over the last three seasons and was terrific against the run too, you just don’t lose that kind of productivity and not notice it. Then his backup, Jyles Tucker has also gone down, so we are way down in the depth chart there, though Marques Harris has been doing a credible job. The second was the loss of Stephen Cooper to a suspension for Ephedra use over the first four games; he came back against the Dolphins last week but still isn’t full speed. The third problem has been Jamal Williams, he has been an absolute stud in the middle over the years, but his knees are a constant issue now, he just doesn’t clog the middle like he used to. The Chargers desperately need to target a NT in a trade or in next years draft. Finally our ILB Matt Wilhelm has been pretty badly exposed by the lack of Stephen Cooper; folks didn’t really notice how soft on the run he was when Stephen Cooper was in there.
The other thing that has hampered us is Cottrell’s conservative game plans; he went with a lot of soft zone early in the season and teams were just ripping our secondary to shreds because we also weren’t getting pressure. Eric Weddle is also starting for the first time this season, and there has been a learning curve there, he had a great game against the Dolphins though. Antonio Cromartie has had problems taking too many chances for the pick and has given up some big plays; against Brandon Marshall at Denver he just melted down. Coverage on tight ends has been the weakest point; the linebackers have been utterly useless there and the safeties have blown coverage more than once. Even with all the issues, the defense has shown flashes; I’m still hopeful they will return to form. Cottrell has been getting more aggressive blitzing and been playing more man to man. He also seems to be getting better at managing the talent and strengths that are there. Cottrell also hasn’t gone to the prevent in some time; I hate the prevent. So overall I’m looking for more creative blitzing, better play out of Weddle and Cooper and more man to man defense; I think that could shore up what has been a porous defense.
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on
Oct 10, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
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