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Recap: Jets defeat Patriots, 34-31

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I don't like losing.  In fact, I hate losing games that easily should've been won.  This game was not one of those.  Coming back from a 24-6 deficit to drive this game into overtime was incredible; inspiring, if you will.  Forget all the pundits who say this team is a shell of its former self.  They are damn good and, as the list of injured or IR'd players grows, they STILL continue to scare the living daylights out of any team that underestimates them.

But the awesome effort of last night just wasn't enough to overcome the smoking start the Jets got off to in the first half.  Aside from any team affiliation and homerism you may have, this was an exciting game to watch.  Tons of yardage, huge plays on both offense and defense, and overtime made for a great night of football.  Unfortunately, the toss of a coin during overtime determined who got the ball and, as is often the case, possession is 9/10 of the law in OT.  Score first, you walk off the field a winner.  There's no chance for the opponent.  NFL OT sucks.  But, that's the rule and every team has benefitted or been bitten by it.

 

Star-divide

Stats-wise, this game makes little sense.  In a number of categories, the Patriots had a clear advantage:

  • 26 first downs vs. the Jets 23
  • 511 net  yards vs. 375
  • 386 yards passing vs. 235
  • 3/4 redzone efficiency vs. 3/5
  • 26 first downs vs. 23

Where things start to break down:

  • 28:32 time of possession vs. the Jets 39:18
  • 28% third down efficiency vs. 56%
  • 3 TDs vs. the Jets 4
  • 1 first down by penalty vs. 3

A very dubious defensive holding penalty against Vrabel with 3:38 left in the game was a difference maker, in my mind.  Bringing the ball from the 7 to the 3 may not have been the key to NYJ taking the lead (they could've scored from the 7, but we'll never know), but it's there and certainly a factor.

With a better defensive stand in the first half, we would've crushed the Jets.  Cassel proved shutting down Moss and Welker simply won't do the job.  Ben Watson (88 yards) and Jabar Gaffney (86 yards) both had TDs while Wes Welker, smothered all night, STILL had 108 yards.  Let's also give credit to the pig pile; many times, Cassel could've consulted his arm band for the appropriate play and then thrown the ball.

The 7-3 New York Jets now sit atop the AFC East with 6-4 NE in 2nd place and 5-4 Buffalo and Miami bringing up the rear.  Get ready for all the hype proclaiming the second coming of His Favre-ness.  It'll be ridiculous this week.

Props to fans from other blogs for stopping by and chatting it up.  Very cool.  Frankly, that's one of the main reasons I do this - chatting with fans from everywhere.  Wait, I think I have something in my eye...

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It's the D

Keller 8 for 87, 6 for 55 in the 4th quarter
Cotchery 5 for 87, TD

Without Thomas and Harrison they can’t cover the WR/TE hybrid guys and they don’t have a #2 CB.

Shonn Greene for Heisman
137 yards per game
6.1 yards per carry
08 TDs per game > 06 GPA

by shake n bake on Nov 14, 2008 11:41 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can't get over Cassel's record-setting performance

I’ve been thinking about it all morning. This is the same Cassel I assumed would have been let go after pre-season in favor of Gutierrez and O’Connell. 400 yards passing, 62 yards rushing, 3 touchdowns, 0 interceptions. First QB in NFL history to pass and rush for that many yards in the same game. Go figure.

One other item of note after doing the links this morning (a shortened version due to an unexpected interruption), was how the media portrayed this game. The descriptions of the Jets win were loaded with even more respect for the Patriots and how they hung in there, than with accolades for the Jets (with the exception of the almighty Favre of course.) Even Steve Mariucci, when he came up for air, was full of praise for how tough a team the Patriots were.

The mistakes were glaring, of course (Ben Watson, Dan Koppen’s miscue on the snap, Dustin Keller left open when only a long ball was going to save Favre’s butt, special teams allowing Leon Washington to score, etc…) I’m not going to pretend they didn’t exist or that they cost the Pats the game, but I’m not going to dwell on them either.
  
Too much good, fixable bad, more football ahead. I just hate the Jets, and I hate being in a position where some other team has to lose for us to catch up or move ahead.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 14, 2008 11:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

with six weeks to go

And several division games left between the 4 teams, I feel there’s still plenty of jockeying to occur. I agree it’s frustrating that the Patriots don’t completely control their destiny, but if they can just focus on winning the games and not worry about the other teams I’m still confident the division crown or a wild card berth is there for the taking.

Definitely a different feeling this season that past ones — worrying more about qualifying for the dance rather than trying to lock up home field for one or more rounds!

by jctsai12 on Nov 14, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But the only reason the game was that close..

..is that Belichik severely outcoached Mangini. Not that that should be a big surprise.

Mangini is physically bigger than Belickik, but he was “Little Bill” to the Pat players during his years there. Now we know why.

by robert ethan on Nov 14, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not a Pats fan

but there is no way the Pats, or Jets for that matter, are a “damn good team”. I’ll refer to footballoutsiders.com, (run by a Pats fan), which is by far the best site for objectively ranking teams IMO. It has the Pats ranked 20th, and the Jets 13th. The game was exciting, but coming back against an average team (who you fell behind in the first place) is not that impressive. In fact, the Pats have only beaten one team in the top 16 all year, that being the Jets.

The reason your record is good is because you guys have had the second easiest scedule in the league (according to FO), in front of only, you guessed it, the Jets. Barely beating teams like the Chiefs and Rams is not very impressive, in fact it shows that the Pats aren’t very good. Had you played an NFC East schedule you’d almost assuredly be only 4-6 or 3-7 right now. Anyway, just something to consider. There’s not really any way you can say the Pats are even good at this point.

by Brendan Scolari on Nov 14, 2008 3:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

maybe

but look at all the teams this year. Forget FO’s formulas, there’s no gauge that matters other than a team’s win-loss record. That’s it. You can’t argue who you might have lost against had they played a particular team, because you never know — look at the Giants being beaten by the Browns back in October. If you’re looking at scheduling, no one has it easier the rest of the season than Miami, and they could easily run the table. If they win the division because of it, than they’re the division champions — no asterisk regarding how easy their schedule was, and the records of their opponents aren’t factored in in any way. So, in other words, get over it.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 14, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

OK

All that matters is the record. Just like last year when the Patriots record suggested they were unbeatable. You must have had your heart broken. I won 3 grand.

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

P.S.

If the playoffs were today, the Patriots don’t have the record to get in. Even with their weak schedule

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

my bad

we have to wait for the rest of the week to play out before we know that for sure

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AMEN

Be careful. They’re very quick to ban you around here for not watching the Pats through rose colored glasses.

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not today

Louie, your tone is different, that of an opposing fan. The last round, you were just rude.

Blogger at SBNation's New England Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Nov 15, 2008 8:32 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Because

I’m starting to realize it’s not the fans of New England that make me crazy as much as it is the writers and broadcasters. I’m starting to realize that the majority of the fans are much more grounded than I thought. I will still be here to keep people in check , but my tone won’t be full of such venom.

by 5percenter on Nov 15, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

Be careful. They’re very quick to ban you around here. if you don’t watch the Patriots through rose colored glasses.

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!!

Be careful. They’re very quick to ban you around here. if you don’t watch the Patriots through rose colored glasses.

by 5percenter on Nov 14, 2008 7:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

statement in context

You need to look at the statement “damn good team” in context – it was followed by

as the list of injured or IR’d players grows, they STILL continue to scare the living daylights out of any team that underestimates them

Run through the injury list on the right hand side of the home page of this blog. It’s the A Team either injured or IR’d and, in some cases, the B and C team. I have mentioned in many posts that the easy schedule is probably helping to keep us afloat.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 15, 2008 8:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I must contest...

Regardless of ranks and stats, you can not compare apples to oranges. Every week, every game is different. I will not use the number of injuries Pats have sustained this season as an excuse for not going 16-0 or for not being first place in the League again! However, since you dare to compare apples and oranges, you brought up the topic of easy schedule. Need I remind you that last season, Pats did play NFC East when Romo was not hurt, when Eli was good on the road, McNabb getting his groove back (somewhat), and when Campbell (…well, he had butterfingers so I’m not going to comment on him any further)..yes, we did have Brady, but nonetheless, Pats were Stellar and on top of their game! 16-0 isn’t too Shabby at all if you ask me! Ostensibly, we do have a new QB, and so the team is slightly different. However, whats’s the excuse for all those other teams still status quo with their QBs? Why aren’t the NFC East undefeated albeit they’re ranked so high on the charts? Thus, it’s not valid to assert that an easy schedule is a factor for a decent performance. If this was the case, then we can conclude that going up against NFC East last season was a walk in the park for the Pats since last year’s records speak for themselves. So, therefore, your statement holds no merit in an attempt to rationalize the goodness of the Pats!

by PatsChowdaHead on Nov 15, 2008 6:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Penalties

I get that there are going to be bad calls, but it just so rankles me that Mr. Law can hang all over Moss and not get a flag thrown on him (how in the hell did Moss catch that ball while being hugged by Law) but Vrable gets called for his ‘hold’.

I just don’t get it.

And bablue… it’s all about the ‘intangibles’ ;) (That has to be the most annoying statement that means practically nothing…. :D)

by DanieXJ on Nov 14, 2008 4:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That's what our crowd was screaming about last night

Loudly! Chris Collinsworth pretty much said the same thing — Vrabel’s “hold” wasn’t a hold at all, and Ty Law was all over Moss without a flag. Don’t try to use logic because none was used in those calls.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 14, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly...

Matt Cassel’s numbers to this point of the season are slightly better than Tom Brady managed in his first season as a starter. In all categories.

Brady get “Bledsoed”?

by robert ethan on Nov 14, 2008 6:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Even though we lost...

I enjoyed the game (sometimes that’s what counts to me)

by Paydirt on Nov 14, 2008 8:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'll second that

That was “football” at it’s best.

Work is the curse of the drinking class.

by standingpat on Nov 14, 2008 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stress

I have never thrived under the duress of that close a game. Call me fair weather, but I’ve been around too long for that. I was literally pulling my hair out.
I love this photo. I might make a poster. Beautiful catch, the kind Randy was born to make.

by cia on Nov 14, 2008 11:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Playing Against Zebra team and Gangreene!

It was apparent that the Pats were playing against not only the Jets but against the Referees. This game reminded me of the Steelers/Seahawks SB whereby ridiculous calls made by the referees went on to favor the Steelers and of course, we all know the outcome of that game. Seahawks played very well, but to go against two teams (refs and steelers) is just absolutely unjust. So, nevertheless, this Pats/Jets game was very favoring the Jets. With that said, Vrabel: You’re the the #1 versatile Player in the League!

Matt Cassel played very well…in fact, he was wicked awesome in disproving all those critics who like to emphasize his lack of experience. Hell, Cassel pretty much had Favre shaking in his cup. To go up against supposedly “great veteran” QB Favre (he’s so overrated), Cassel was very Bradyesque (No one can be Brady), but he resembled some true traits of a great QB. Cassel has a lot of potential, and I would hate to lose him when Brady comes back to start because if Cassel keeps up the excellent work and keeps growing, some desperate team will go broke just to try to win him…we’ve seen this happen to Asante Samuel to the desperate Iggles, and Jets stooped so low as to overpaid acquire Favre.

Moreover, it should not go unnoticed that despite the players dropping like flies due to injuries, Pats still managed to do superb job for having to play with rookies. How? Duh, who’s been the constant director of the team? Great coach Belichick! I dismiss all nonsense morons say about him regarding how apathetic he appears in press conferences, how he always wears his hoodie, and stores the challenge flag in his sock (um, didn’t I see Zorn from the Skins mimicking Belichick by doing this the other night?) THe public does not see what goes on inside the locker rooms, on the field, and so forth. There’s a reason why everyone on the team (coaches, players, owner, GM, etc) have so much respect for Belichick and supported him through last year’s controversy. There’s a reason why Moss has so much respect for Belichick and for the team. Why did Moss decide to stay with the Pats? Even when the Iggles couldn’t acquire him because they overbudgeted with the gain of Samuel, but I’m sure other teams would’ve loved to have Moss. We’re seeing something in Moss that we did not see previously when he played for Vikings and Raiders. Loyalty to his team! That’s what a true Patriot is! You bleed the Red, White, and Blue!

In sum, despite some ridiculous, nonsensical construction of OT policy in the NFL that typically dictates the outcome of the game by a damn coin toss, to have overcome a deficit and force the game into OT, Patriots are the Sh*t! In fact, Red Sox did the same thing in Postseason game 5 to force a complete series of 7 games! In New England, we Believe! Go Pats! Go Celtics (it ridiculous how the media still have no faith in the champs! umm, news flash, by how many points did the Celtics shut down the Lakers in the final game?)

by PatsChowdaHead on Nov 15, 2008 7:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

nice

I read a comment from someone actually stating that what Cassel did was nothing, that you could put anyone out there with the WR’s we have and they’d still make the same throws. There’s no response that could even begin to address the folks out there that think like that.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 15, 2008 8:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh...

…he did awesome, and I have to say, that I’ve always been a Brady Fan, one of the first who firmly believed that he should get to stay the starter instead of Bledsoe, but watching Cassel the past few games has really been exciting too…

(Not to mention, the only good thing to come out of this game for me, he had a killer Fantasy day, and I’m already up 153.7-0 this week and it’s not even Sunday…. :D)

by DanieXJ on Nov 15, 2008 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True fan, well stated

Blogger at SBNation's New England Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Nov 15, 2008 8:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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