Reasons to beat the Dolphins, Part I
The 2008 NFL season is a disaster, a mess of ginormous propotions. It's "seventy in November" wrong. It's "Tina Fey could really be VP and noone would've been the wiser" wrong. It's "ketchup on Fenway Franks" wrong; no sauerkraut, or chili either. Only mustard and onions belong on a hot dog, thank you. It's "Miracle Whip in a tuna fish sandwich" wrong, but I digress.
I've appended "Part I" to this title because sometimes I get inspired. However rare, I may be motivated to create a, I don't know, Part II or something. I could even go to Part XCIX (you're gonna look that up, aren't you?). At any rate, there are many things wrong with this season and one of them is the Dolphins. They are seriously messing with the karma of the AFC by, like, winning and stuff. Not only winning, but beating conference and division opponents. That's key for wildcard berths. The list of rules is insane, but simply put: it's good to beat teams in your backyard.
Ok, onto my reasons to beat the 'Fins:
- 'Fins Fans - All of a sudden, it's cool to like the Dolphins. Where was the pride and support when they were a laughing stock? True fans wear their jersey no matter what and take their lumps. True fans know, everything turns around at some point.
- Bill Parcells - Ever since Belichick jumped ship from New York green to New England red, white, and blue, Tuna has been hating on him. It may have waned a bit, but it was ugly early on. I'd like nothing more than to see Belichick school Parcells' newest protege.
- Chad Pennington - I just don't like his name. Saying that name makes me feel like I should be eating finger sandwiches and sipping mimosas during a game instead of getting yelled at for dripping hot wing sauce on the rug.
- Joey Porter - Trust me, there WILL be more to come with this character. You see, he never ceases to amaze with the endless amount of drivel he can vomit out of his pie hole. One minute, he's in his son's opposing football coach's face for "running up the score" and the next he's complaining about "respect" and NE "beating" on the Dolphins in 2007. I'm sure he explained to his son that that opposing coach was a big fat poopy head. Yeah, that fits. But complaining about a 2007 trouncing by NE? Did you forget Week 3 in Foxboro...Joey? I don't think you heard NE fans or players complaining. In fact, it was more to the tune of, "We better get our act together." Man up and forget all of that "respect" nonsense or the tiniest slight, the smallest perceived injustice will turn you into yet another street thug. You're having a great year. Stop using it as an excuse to speak. Because you can't. The next Mercury Morris you ain't.
All for now. Don't even tell me you like ketchup on hot dogs. And XCIX is 99.
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Don't talk shit about Porter at his kids game
I was at the game (I’m a coach in the same league).. Porter had every right to be pissed. The opposing coach put his backups in during the 4th when it was 27-0, then put the starters back in when Porter’s kid’s team threatened to score. He then left his starters in to score again.
Sounds kind of like the Pats last year. Cassel comes in, throws a pick, and next drive out trots Brady again in a 40 point game to run it up some more. Karma bit back in the Super Bowl though didn’t it? 18-1. 38-13.
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on
Nov 19, 2008 1:18 AM EST
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You like the Dolphins
You lose
http://inplaynoouts.blogspot.com/ - A blog about teams I like, written by me.
by Carl Johnson on
Nov 19, 2008 2:33 AM EST
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Fair enough
Probably out of line about the kid’s game, but Porter’s a loudmouth jerk from this Pats’ fan perspective. He’s using his good year to mouth off at anything he wants to when keeping quiet would make him seem like less of a jerk.
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by MaPatsFan on
Nov 19, 2008 7:38 AM EST
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This isn't Pee-Wee
That’s like putting your own coaching skills on par with Sparano’s. Different league, different issues altogether and I can’t believe you’re comparing grown men who are well-paid professional athletes with kids. That’s the whole problem with youth sports in the first place. Ludicrous. The Jets put a whooping on the Rams 47-3 and you’d have thought they won the Super Bowl. The only press was regarding how hot the Jets are and how much of a beating they gave St. Louis. Any running up the score whining? Nope. Hear St. Louis players whining? Nope. Why are you?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 9:04 AM EST
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Marima, what didn't you understood?
The propellers were winning at half 40-0, so they put ONLY 7 more points at the second half, but they could posible put 30 more, that is what JP is talkin about, if you ALREADY won the game WHY put more points on the board, you could ended the game by kneeling and the end of the 4th quater? I don’t care if they are millionare players, but that type of arrogance is what he is talking about. There is always good winner and good losser, but there is also bad winners and bad losser, last year the pat were bad winner and at the end they were bad losser too.
In top of that, your stadium was empty at the begining of the 4th quater this year went we run all over you guys, and entire quater of enty seats. GREAT for bad losser.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on
Nov 20, 2008 2:15 PM EST
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What we have here is a major difference of opinion. I bet you’d give all the kids playing Pee Wee football a trophy too, just for showing up.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 20, 2008 2:18 PM EST
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It was cool to like the Dolphins when they were losing
And it’s cooler to like them now!!!!
GO DOLPHINS!!!!
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 19, 2008 6:37 AM EST
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A true fan! Kudos...seriously.
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by MaPatsFan on
Nov 19, 2008 10:12 AM EST
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Pats' Humble Pie...
I’ve never heard a single “rave” from the Pats last season about running up the score against other teams. All I’ve ever heard was “it was a good win, but we need to focus on next week” or something along that line. However, Gloats and more gloats from any team that can display a huge point differential on the score board against the Pats. Yeah, for example: NY Giants Fans!: no loyalty at all! Where was the support when Eli was performing poorly at home last year? So quick to criticize him, and the Benedict Arnold in so called giants fans sold home tickets to Pats fans? Remember that? Oh, but when Giants made it to the SB…I’m sure you still were confident in them to beat the Pats considering week 17 set several records for the Dynasty. However, so hasty to wave your NY logos around town after Feb. 3rd. Yeah,…it’s not about love/hate relationship with NY Giants Fans…it’s about being opportunists! No sense of loyalty. So, the same goes for Tuna fans! Let’s get Sunday rolling already!
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 19, 2008 8:12 AM EST
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“It amazes me, amazes me, how people react. You would think that this organization hasn’t won as much as they’ve won and hasn’t been successful in the years that they have.” Ellis Hobbes said that about fans booing and walking out when the Pats lost 38-13.
Eli Manning hadn’t proven a thing to the Giants fans until he won a Superbowl.
The difference now though is that Eli Manning has won them a Superbowl. I don’t hear boos anymore. The Patriots on the other hand have won a few Superbowls and their fans are still booing. Ellis is right, that is amazing considering how many flag waving opportunities they have given you the past decade. Maybe that shows the loyalty of the Patriot fanbase more than anything else.
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by DolfinPhan on
Nov 19, 2008 4:59 PM EST
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Eli hasn't screwed up...
but if once he does continuously start screwing up, NYers will give him grief once more. It’s typical fan attitude everywhere you go. I’m sure when Brady comes back and is no longer THE BRADY we’re so used, many people will dismiss him too. Luckily for me, I still have Bledsoe jerseys along with Brady jerseys too. heheh I concur with Hobbs and your statement regarding the booing of the Pats: when one is so used to the team winning, getting spoiled is always the case. So, I can only speak for myself in saying I love the Pats and will always even “if” Brady won’t be back (Lord, I hope I didn’t just jinxed the team…heeheh sorry). hehehe
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 19, 2008 8:04 PM EST
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Drew Bledsoe is the fertilizer for football
Bledsoe goes down=Brady comes in
Bledsoe goes down=Romo comes in
Who will be the next star to follow in Bledsoe’s footsteps?
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 20, 2008 6:35 AM EST
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DolfinPhan! i just don't get how the pat'
can say anything about bandwagon fans? that is ludicrous!!
The dunke telling the bunnie that he has big ears LOL
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(21 years and counting)
by Aleta on
Nov 20, 2008 2:27 PM EST
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what
are you talking about? seriously. try using paragraphs.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on
Nov 20, 2008 12:19 PM EST
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As always
Squish the Fish!
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
by Mainiac on
Nov 19, 2008 10:02 AM EST
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May the Best Team Lose!
Signed,
A Buffalo Bills fan
by Zumone on
Nov 19, 2008 11:14 AM EST
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lol
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by MaPatsFan on
Nov 19, 2008 11:16 AM EST
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Welcome to the Crab Bucket
(or the Lobster Bucket in these parts).
Thats all we have left.
by Zumone on
Nov 19, 2008 11:18 AM EST
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Pride and Support?
Where was the pride and support in the 4th quarter in week 3 from you guys? It looked like somebody pulled a fire alarm in that stadium. And you booed your own team off the field pretty much… a team that was on a 21 game regular game winning streak.
And Patriots talk their trash too… they just do it in disrespectful ways directly to the opponents and not with the mic. They try to play innocent to the camera but somehow have a bad reputation with pretty much all other players in the NFL. Weren’t your players inviting the Giants’ players to their victory party before the game started?
by SDefee on
Nov 19, 2008 11:29 AM EST
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Fan nature...
I will admit, it was absurdity what SOME Pats fans did in week 3 (hence, my message in my profile); however, that’s typical fan behavior—you get spoiled—-It happens to fans of all teams around the league! In fact, last season, the Phin Stadium looked like a ghost town with all those empty seats. Talking trash? I can recall that once the Pats became the only remaining undefeated team, any opposing team from then on trash talked and dared to make predictions of the scores. Ravens, Steelers, Chargers, Giants, SKins, Jags etc.! How can you say in reference to Brady “He ain’t all that”? if running up the damn scores still wasn’t good enough to shut your lousy, sore losing attitude up, what will? with that attitude, it’s no wonder these teams lost to the Pats. You have no room to bad mouth someone unless you are up to his level! (especially if you’re a rookie, you should know your role and shut up!) Notice how Peyton M. hasn’t trash talked Brady? Great QBs know the magnitude of one another! In the words of Rodney Harrison last year “We don’t talk, we Produce!”
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 19, 2008 12:07 PM EST
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yeah, that explains why players from all over the NFL love to play for the Patriots
‘cause there’s such a bad rep among other players. Go read Michael Strahan’s book about trash talking and then come back when you have a few facts to share.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 1:06 PM EST
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That comment is 2 scoops of retarded
“Players from all over the NFL love to play for the Patriots”?
Huh? How can they play for the Patsies, but be “from all over the NFL”? And you make it sound like everybody else hates playing for any other team than the Pats. Remember when your Harrison went down a few weeks ago, everyone on TV was saying that he was the biggest disrespectful trash talker. It’s possible to be a good player and an a-hole at the same time. And as for Rodney saying “we don’t talk, we produce” oh he talked plenty.
Spoiled? That’s your excuse? I can use that for the Dolphins too, buddy. We were spoiled back in the 70s 80s and early 90s which made it pretty damn hard to get tix back then. I’m sure the next time your team goes through a dry spell tickets will be somewhat easier to get. It’s just how it goes buddy.
by SDefee on
Nov 20, 2008 1:40 AM EST
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Provide some evidence...
Give me one publicly made statement from Harrison’s mouth last year regarding any predictions, any sort of prowess above other teams, and any immunity the Pats had. As for him approaching Coach Billick with a comment to have only received a pucker back from the coach was harmless . Many people thought Richard Seymour was playing dirty, but now, the dirty plays are addressed towards the Titans. You’re mentioning everything that’s already apparent in typical traits of any team. Of course tix will be more accessible if the team sucks. You produce more winning outcomes, you generate more views. Why else was last year’s SB the most viewed SB in history? As long as Brady’s still playing, the encountering of another dry spell won’t be anytime soon. Regarding being a good player and an A-hole concurrently: if Harrison is labeled as such but is now injured, then Porter has the heir to the throne.
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 20, 2008 7:28 AM EST
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the only people ever to even mention Harrison as a trash-talker are the voices in your head
In this information age of the internet, find me ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of Harrison trash-talking anywhere. Anywhere. Just one. You won’t find any because he doesn’t get caught up in that useless garbage. And where did I ever say “spoiled” in my 29 words above. Players who have joined the Patriots from other teams in the NFL love the organization, ownership, coaching, and system. It’s a fact. Chad Ocho-Cinco (he was still Johnson back then) was blatantly kissing up to Belichick at the Pro Bowl begging to be traded here, and that’s just one example.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 20, 2008 9:38 AM EST
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not trash talking
but an example of why everyone including me hates him
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3439800 (opens in new window)
There’s plenty more out there
Let's go Colts!
by AJforAZ on
Nov 22, 2008 2:05 PM EST
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I'm well aware of Harrison's rep
I was taking issue with SDefee’s assertion that Harrison was a “disrespectful trash talker.” Whatever else you believe Harrison to be, it has nothing whatever to do with trash talking.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 22, 2008 6:51 PM EST
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playing dirty...
Why play football? why even watch football if players can’t play football? I suppose Hines Ward should apologize for playing football since he’s also been labeled as a dirty player! just imagine, you take out the Refs, and now, you have a real contact to contact ball game! I bet the “Fog Bowl” between Iggles and Bears was awesome to watch (if fans could have seen what was happening) b/c dense fog cut visibility which prevented Refs to intervene in the plays. That’s Football! Speedy recovery my fav. safety!
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 24, 2008 12:57 AM EST
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all well and good, but the real reason to beat the phins is...
…that they’re on the schedule.
All the animosity between fans of the teams, whatever perceived injustices Porter likes to use as motivation, any side stories about Bill vs. Bill, that’s all secondary to notching a win.
Patriots are currently out of the playoff picture, so simply put they need wins and people ahead of them to lose. All the vendetta stuff is just a distraction.
by jctsai12 on
Nov 19, 2008 12:21 PM EST
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I tried to stay out of this.
I really don’t like getting involved with these things – especially with a fellow SBN blogger. So let me preface this by saying that I think you’re a very good blogger and I’m glad SBN brought you aboard.
With that said, I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you about a few things. First, let’s not even bring up fans and how it’s cool to be a Dolphins fan. Back in the late 80s and early 90s, you couldn’t find a Patriots fan. They just didn’t exist. Then when Parcells got them to that SB vs GB, there were some. But not too many. Now, all of a sudden, Pats fans are everywhere. If anything, it’s cool to be a Patriots fan – not a Dolphins fan.
And speaking of fans, I won’t even get into week 3 when that stadium emptied out like it was on fire despite their still being like 14 minutes left in the game.
But the worst thing I can throw at you in terms of fans would be of a first-hand experience. I was in college in New Hampshire back in 2003 – when the Dolphins and Pats met in that game in NE where the fans had to sit on snow. You remember, right? The one where all the fans celebrated by throwing snowballs in the air. Anyways, I had a few friends from my school at that game who were Pats fans. They came back after the game and said they were embarrassed to be Patriot fans. This is because they saw three Patriot fans throw snowballs (that were more like iceballs, they said) at an old lady (at least in her 60s) because she had on a Dolphins winter jacket. Unfortunately, she felt the first one hit her back and turned around only to have 2 hit her right in the face. She was knocked out and had a cut on her forehead when emergency personnel took her out. Classy fans, huh?
As far as Porter’s talking goes, I don’t necessarily like it. But at least he isn’t smug and arrogant like the Pats were last year. It was already brought up how some Pats players were inviting Giants players to their celebration party after the game. But how about Tom Brady laughing at media day when he was told that Plaxico Burress predicted the Pats to only score 17 points. He laughed and quickly dismissed it. Now – if I recall, I don’t think the Pats even got to 17. How’s that taste?
Moving along – karma is a funny thing. The Pats entire organization is arrogant – as exemplified by the trademark they took out on 19-0. And that’s why the Pats are getting what they deserve. For those who a true believers in karma, they would say that the loss in the SB, the Tom Brady injury, and all the other injuries are results of karma coming back to haunt NE.
And last but not least – the Pats have the absolute biggest joke of a banner EVER in the history of both jokes and banners. Why do they have a 16-0 banner hanging up at the stadium? Why? That’s laughable. And if I was a PAts fan, I’d be embarrassed.
by Matty I on
Nov 19, 2008 1:07 PM EST
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Well said sir!
matty is my hero!
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 19, 2008 1:25 PM EST
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spoken from a guy whose team sports a dolphin with a helmet on it.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 1:29 PM EST
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snappy comeback
did you hurt yourself?
"I throw better than anybody in college and I can throw with anybody in the pros. There, that's what I think."
"I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change."
- Dan Marino aka Quarterback God
by Little Nicky 21 on
Nov 19, 2008 1:57 PM EST
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Thank you Matty
I don’t mind people trash talking and getting pumped for a game, but it really bothers me when people write,
True fans wear their jersey no matter what and take their lumps.
by Mosul_DolFan on
Nov 19, 2008 1:36 PM EST
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Ooops...his post too early
Anyway, it bothers me when you post that, because we did stick by our team. We were there watching every painful loss. We were there as the Patriots ran up the score just to rub it in. We were there, watching, hoping, screaming as Camarillo ran down the field against the Ravens. We were there all last year.
And we were here this year when we all expected it to be a little better. Still last in the AFC East. Still looking at a top 10 draft pick, but better. And, you have to expect us to get excited when our team starts doing well – FINALLY!
Now, next year, when you guys get healthy, you probably will own the AFC East again. Maybe you won’t, but there’s a good chance that The Golden Boy Tom Brady will once again be Tom Brady. And, we aren’t at that calibre yet. But we are coming. And we are just excited that we are showiung our potential.
by Mosul_DolFan on
Nov 19, 2008 1:40 PM EST
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I cried when we beat the Ravens
not really but it was the best day of the season.
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by DolfinPhan on
Nov 19, 2008 5:03 PM EST
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lol
c’mon, admit it, you do have a sensitive side…I will admit, I was happy for the CamCam and his team to have won a game. Now, if the lions could just win one game…at least one!
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 20, 2008 8:44 AM EST
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c'mon all..
Hey everyone (Pats and Dolphins fans alike), it is absolutely absurd and disrepectful to each other to make claims that “there were no fans” back when our respective teams were losing.
Look, success breeds bandwagons. We all know this. To imply that New England, Miami, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, wherever don’t have core loyal fans willing to stick it through thick and thin is ridiculous. And to also think that your city (whichever your city may be) is free from bandwagon-riders or the kind of jerk fans we all hate is also naive homerism.
We do not judge all Philadelphia fans for the few who booed Irvin lying on the turf. The New York fans who threw ice and snowballs certainly do not represent the Giants fans I am friends with. The racial insults my friend endured from one drunk fan at Miami when watching the Patriots play there a few years ago were isolated and not indicative of the football passion the fans had there. Letting the Bears fans who poured beer on my group when the Patriots visited their temporary home at Memorial Stadium at U of Illinois as we walked up the ramps override the great Chicago fans who came over to help us get cleaned up would be a disservice.
This thread is starting to devolve into pointlessness. Let’s talk football. Strategies on the field, injuries, gameplans. If you’re an opposing fan or a homer who loves these things, please post, but let’s just take the insults and flames somewhere else, it’s saddening to read.
by jctsai12 on
Nov 19, 2008 1:40 PM EST
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Ahh, cooler heads prevail.
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by MaPatsFan on
Nov 19, 2008 1:53 PM EST
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The entire organization is arrogant because they took out a trademark on 19-0. That’s it? That’s what caused Bernard Pollard to crash his shoulder into Brady’s knee? Then what in Karma’s name did the Dolphins do to deserve an entire season spent as the laughing stock of the league? Must have been a doozy. Hate to refute your assertions but your logic is wacky.
As far as fan loyalty goes, the Patriots shattered their single-day record for most season tickets sold the day after Bill Parcells was hired as head coach in 1993. The stadium has sold out since, both the old Foxboro Stadium and the new Gillette, without a single blackout. The fans responded by buying tickets and filling up the stadium the moment they had an owner that cared about the team and brought in the best coach money could buy to prove that he was serious about putting together a team that could win.
Yeah, I wasn’t happy to see the fans file out of the stands in the third quarter, but a lot of them did and I won’t make excuses for them. At least they bothered to show up in the first place. As far as the snowball incident, there are jerks and mean drunks everywhere wearing every single logo available. Just because they’re wearing a jersey, it doesn’t make them any less of a jerk if they were one before they put it on.
As far as the loyal fans go, first of all there are jerks in every stadium. That’s just the nature of humanity.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 1:53 PM EST
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the karma thing...
…all I’m saying about that is there are a number of people in this country who buy into that whole “karma” crap – and the idea that what goes around comes around. I don’t necessarily believe it.
But the Pats got what they deserved – as far as them losing the SB. And if you try to tell me that the Pats weren’t arrogant, then you lose all credibility of being objective.
by Matty I on
Nov 19, 2008 3:16 PM EST
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If there's no concession on your part at all that the 19-0 "Perfection" hype was media built
then there’s no credibility at all on your part.
The Patriots were begged, bothered and badgered on every turn and in every interview. I have a large number of links from 2007 and there wasn’t a single incident of a player or coach using his microphone or camera access to taunt, accept, or even concede slightly that their undefeated status was anything to be taken for granted or was something that couldn’t change in a heartbeat. They publicly acknowledged their opponents strengths and wouldn’t say anymore. What did you think they should have done differently? Seriously. Besides take a knee after a 3 touchdown lead, like Porter suggested, what would you have had them do instead?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 3:26 PM EST
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Lets see...
there was the Buffalo games… Redskins game… I think you get the idea. Generally all good times to take a knee, or run the ball some more or put in your back ups…
but that season is over.
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by DolfinPhan on
Nov 19, 2008 5:09 PM EST
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Buffalo beat us 31-0 in 2003... no whining, no tears
should buffalo have taken a knee at 21-0??? No. We got blown out and that was that. What’s the magic number of points ahead where a team has a lead, that they take a knee and keep giving the ball back to the other team? The Redskins players actually said they would have been more insulted if the Patriots had done that instead of finishing out the game. So did coach Gibbs. Deion Sanders said it too…“This is football.”
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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I will have to say this much
When you play football you play to win
Who gives a shit about feelings….the Pats were the bullies in the schoolyard they kicked ass no question
But I do believe in karma crap…you cant bust on the pAts for the score
But you can bust on them for the tapes
They were an awesome team in 2007, and I say that with sick feelings
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 19, 2008 7:18 PM EST
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I don't believe in Karma -- but I do believe in cycles
Just like with politics, the pendulum is always swinging in one direction or another. Democrats rule, then the Republicans, then back to the Democrats. The planet does the same thing. The Pats couldn’t buy a win at Dolphin Stadium for years. Then they couldn’t win there in September. You shut us down in 2006, we beat you in 2007 (but we weren’t the only ones clobbering your phins in 2007.) Coaches change, owners sell, players retire or move on… it’s all fluid. You win championships with mostly scrubs and a few stars and then the team can’t afford it’s new Super Bowl caliber players anymore and everything changes.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 19, 2008 7:41 PM EST
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another thing about scores
Last year there obviously was a ton of talk about whether or not the Patriots were running up the score. But there were other reasons why I think the debate took center stage sometimes…for instance, I wasn’t happy to see Brady in there late, as a fan, because of the risk of injury (and we’ve seen the impact that can have firsthand now).
Generally speaking, if people want to further the debate about sportsmanship though with regards to the score, I think it’s contextually fair to bring up the fact that points scored are technically an NFL tiebreaker. The chance of it getting that far is indeed remote, behind head-to-head win loss percentages and such, but it is there. So when teams are scoring in bunches in games that are already decided, they are still providing insurance should tiebreaking ever come into the picture.
Again, even on a schedule as short as 16 games (as opposed to the marathons of the other major sports), the chance of using the points tiebreakers is slim. But it is a factor, and in the quintessential “game of inches” I don’t know if we can fault coaches for covering every possible angle. Maybe that sounds disingenuous to others because I’m a Pats fan and we bore the brunt of the criticism, but that’s how I genuinely feel.
Personally, if I were coaching, I still wouldn’t have left starters in because of the aforementioned chance of injury. But it’s a risk reward scenario that every person and coach is probably going to have a different threshold for. Some coaches pull guys with a 20 point lead in the 4th quarter. Others don’t feel comfortable doing so until it’s a 21 point lead, others 28. Maybe Bill’s threshold really is high, or maybe he is just a “terrible sport.” But as long as that tiebreaker exists, I don’t know if we can really ever say teams shouldn’t ever administer beatdowns under any condition, whether we’re on the giving or receiving end.
by jctsai12 on
Nov 19, 2008 11:54 PM EST
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Scores don't mean shit
You play to win
Good points
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 20, 2008 6:36 AM EST
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Great idea for all NFL stadiums to battle obnoxious fans
The Indy Star had this article, oddly enough regarding unruly and vulgar Colts fans at Lucas Oil Stadium during a game against the Patriots. I think I’m going to forward the article to the Patriots. Kraft has made Gillette Stadium a million times better than the family-unfriendly wasteland it was before him, but there’s obviously a lot of room for improvement everywhere.
Colts’ text-messaging system is part of league’s effort to ban bad behavior.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on
Nov 20, 2008 11:27 AM EST
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Oh cry me a river!....
All sorts of crap happens during any football game! Skins fans denounce Iggles fans, Pats/Jets bashing, and whatever rivalry you may have! No matter where you go, you have classless ones and respectful ones! Sore losers and Good Stewards. I can’t speak on behalf of those mischievous behaviors shown from those Pat Fans mentioned (You’re generalizing all Pat FAns based on 3 morons who crossed the line as to physically hurt another human being).
What kind of character can one deduce from Burress’s cocky predictions! It should be a cardinal rule to Players that you should never make predictions as such. Leave it to the Spectators of the sport (that’s what fans do best, bash teams despite our inability to control the outcome). I would chuckle too if opposing players constantly undermine a perfect regular season record through affected attitudes exemplified in prediction making. Don Shula wouldn’t had been shaking during that Ravens game if he wasn’t nervous about the possibility that another team to match his ’72 team calibre!
In regards to Pats bandwagons, you’re preaching to the choir…So many Giant fans appearing from thin air all of a sudden in areas such as D.C., Philly, parts of Jerseys! How many damn Cowboy fans are in Skins territory? Lots! and the majority of them have never been to TX! Bandwagons are part of sports…go fishing!
by PatsChowdaHead on
Nov 19, 2008 1:42 PM EST
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That's because....
As everyone knows, they are America’s Team!
And, nicely done with the go fishing comment. That’s pretty clever and funny as you come in to play the Dolphins.
by Mosul_DolFan on
Nov 19, 2008 1:57 PM EST
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I think the point that was made about Miami not having real fans...
Was the comment that upset me. The Dolphins are a storied franchise and has a loyal following of fans such as myself and many at Phinsider and that is why I was personally offended. I wore my Dolphins jerseys with pride, and took shit from fans of Chicago where I live and other teams asking why would I support such a crappy team.
NE on the other hand had barely anyone rooting for them until Parcels took the helm. Then they got their new logo and it was cool to cheer for them. But they didn’t have the rabid following until Brady and Bellichik came along.
If the Pats fans want to kick the Fins ass for revenge for week 3, Joey Porter, because they are the shit, whatever, fine! I get that. That’s cool! I love the passion all 4 teams in this division show and the rivalries. But the comment about the Fins fans was silly, especially considering how everyone ran out of Gilette when the Dolphins were kicking ass.
As far as Sunday goes, I would say good luck to you guys, but I want to see you lose, so no. No good luck. I hope Porter takes Cassell to school. I hope the Fish unleash an offensive assault. I hope the Fins win and bury the Pats to get themselves into playoff position. No matter who wins, even you Pats fans can appreciate a team thaty went 1-15 the year before making the playoffs. It just sucks that they are in the same divsion as you guys as will be the ones featured on NFL Live this year.
Will give kudos to how well the team has played due to all injuries, but karma’s a bitch, payback is a whore.
"If my first child is a boy his name will now be "Chad". In the event my first child is a girl her name will be "Pennington".-Rzayo 24
by rangerjae on
Nov 19, 2008 2:00 PM EST
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i watched every game (except the Baltimore game unfort) last year
just sayin. idk any Dolphin bandwagoners. However in the coming years, we’ll gladly purchase that “19-0” trademark from you guys.
we like Jet Blue, we stay hella high
by chrislucas on
Nov 19, 2008 2:07 PM EST
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