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Here Comes the Turk

Let me preface this by saying if I were in charge I would cut Chad Jackson--outright release. I think the Pats will keep him, however.

Here's my practice squad guestimation:

Ryan WendellC
Titus AdamsNT
Vince ReddLB
Ray VentroneS/WR
Stephen SpachTE
CJ JonesWR
Shawn CrableLB
K O'ConnellQB

Projected (based on nothing much) Cuts (SD denotes "speed dial"):

Lewis Sanders (SD)CB
Antwain Spann (SD)CB/S
Jason Webster (SD)CB
Jeff ShoateCB
Santonio ThomasDL
Kenny SmithDL
Kyle Eckel (SD)FB
Bo RuudLB
Victor HobsonLB
Steve FifitaNT
John WelbournOL
Stephen SeneOL
Mike Flynn (SD)OL
Jimmy Martin (SD)OL
Dan Connolly (SD)OL
BJGERB
Mark DillardS
Tyson DeVreeTE
Jonathan StuparTE
Sam AikenWR
Oliver RossOL
Gary GuytonLB

What I'm about to say isn't going to be popular, but I don't think Matt Cassel has looked as bad as some people think. He's not Brady, that's for sure. But hear me out.

The line has played horribly in front of Cassel, as compared to both Gutierrez and O'Connell. I think that's because he goes in first, when the opponent's first team defense is in and coming hard. Gute and Kevin both have the benefit of playing behind a line that is every bit as cohesive a unit as the first team (not at all), but which is facing 2nd and 3rd team defensive units. Because of the way the Pats have been shuffling o-linemen this summer, the 2nd and third units are just about as up to speed as the first team. So there isn't the comparative drop-off.

Cassel has also been facing first team defensive backfields. So you're looking at our 2nd string QB facing a first team defensive backfield and looking like you'd expect a #2 to look. Matt's not getting #1 reps in practice. He's getting #2 reps. He doesn't have the chemistry--yet--with the WR's that Brady does. And let's face it: no one else ever will.

Gutierrez has a tendency to "lock" onto a receiver. Cassel, in contrast, seems to be more willing to go through his reads. Due to the problems I've outlined above, that has a tendency to get him sacked right now. But as those problems get fixed, there will be more time. Be honest: how do you think Brady would look behind the protection Cassel's been getting? He'd look, well, human at least.

I'm not saying this is the guy forever and ever. But if we dump him, the next most experienced guy in the system is Gutierrez, who is #3 for a reason: he doesn't know the system yet. And if we were to drop him in exchange for a FA veteran, we have another problem to add on top of the time-in-system question: who's it going to be? Sims? There just aren't that many out there.

Obviously there's a lot of room for argument, and he hasn't looked like a world beater. But neither have Maroney, Jordan, Faulk or Morris, and you don't see anyone asking for one of their heads.

IMO it's going to take until the end of September to get the line sorted out. Matt Light apparently practiced today, so that's a big step in the right direction. We aren't going to look like last year's juggernaut right out of the gate. But I think things will come around and, for this year at least, Cassel is a better than adequate backup.

Let's not shake this baby any more than we already have.

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All I know is

I know nothing until the end of the KC game.

by Mainiac on Aug 25, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Practice Squad

The problem with the practice squad is that he players have to pass through waivers before they can be added to the squad. I don’t think Crable or O’Connell will make it through that process without being claimed by another team. My guess is that Gutierrez gets cut and O’Connell makes the team, but what do I know.

by 6thround on Aug 25, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

excellent point.

I’d forgotten all about that. It’d be really nice to hold on to Crable.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Aug 25, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crable stays

He’s shown more than enough to get a roster spot. I don’t know who stays between Redd, Guyton, and Hobson though.

by 6thround on Aug 25, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaarrrggghhh

I forgot all about the clearing waivers part before they can be on the practice squad. I don’t want them to lose LB’s Redd or Guyton, even though one of them is bound to get cut. That just added a new wrinkle to all of this.

I don’t think Gutierrez will be cut, or O’Connell either. The Pats have kept 4 quarterbacks before and will do it again if they’re not ready to make a decision. Crable should be kept too, somewhere, and I liked Ray Ventrone too….aarrgghh…I hate not knowing.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 25, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

say what u want...

I know Cassel is the incumbent backup but I would give the backup job to Gutierrez. No way they keep 4 QB’s. If any of them had starting potential sure but all 3 are tagged as 2nd stringers AT BEST and in that case why keep 3 of them sitting on the bench???

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by esellout on Aug 26, 2008 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

My problem w/ Cassel is

Even if he drives the ball down the field, my gut feeling is he will blow it in the end. He is anything but a money player.

If my mother put on a helmet and shoulder pads and a uniform that wasn't the same as the one I was wearing, I'd run over her if she was in my way. And I love my mother.

BO JACKSON

by standingpat on Aug 30, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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