Preseason Game #1: Ravens @ Patriots
by MaPatsFan on Aug 7, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Gang,
opening up the Game Thread early as I may be away from my computer for awhile. Believe it or not, I'm visiting the Bass Pro Shop at Gillette with an avid outdoorsman from out-of-town, but won't be staying for the game. :-( Oh well. I'll jump in when I can.
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Oh, man
I can’t imagine how you feel…(Not like I’ll be able to visit even the stadium itself :) ) Anyway, I’ll be here tonight
Not playing tonight
- CB Mike Richardson
- RB Kyle Eckel
- G Stephen Neal
- LT Matt Light
- RT Oliver Ross
- DL Jarvis Green
- DL Mike Wright
All for sure not playing. In addition Welker has not been spotted on the field warming up and rumor has it Moss might not play either, leaving Jackson and Gafney as the starting WRs.
Defense
Defensive starters for the Patriots, who open in a 3-4 alignment:
DE: Ty Warren
NT: Vince Wilfork
DE: RIchard Seymour
OLB: Adalius Thomas
ILB Tedy Bruschi
ILB: Jerod Mayo
OLB: Pierre Woods
CB: Terrence Wheatley
CB: Fernando Bryant
S: Brandon Meriweather
S: Antwain Spann
Mayo looks SOLID.
A little late reading pass a couple of times and got caught in the wash once on the 1st drive, but just made a great play—a very solid, professional play on the ravens 2nd possession.
They came right at him; he took on the block, shed the o-lineman and made the hit, gain of 2ish. Very nice.
He’s been around or at the man on every pass to the backs as well.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
so sad....
They cut the internet broadcast off on me… so I get to watch the play by play on NFL.com…. I wish I could hear the game =(
Oh, Cassel
Chad was open, and he threw it behind him (for an IT, of course…)
On the other end, that Mayo hit was pretty good :)
COuld've been Jackson, too.
though Cassel looks like it’s his first time on the field.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
little late but....Offense
Offensive starters for the Patriots
QB: Matt Cassel
LT: Nick Kaczur
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Dan Koppen
RG: Billy Yates
RT: Wesley Britt
TE: Benjamin Watson
WR: Chad Jackson
WR: Jabar Gaffney
RB: Laurence Maroney
FB: Heath Evans
looks like....
A team defense is done for the night… at least the big names: Seymour, Thomas, Bruschi, Warren and Wilfork
Well that was a depressing series.
Penetration everywhere, no seal on the back side; Cassel looking like a fool. Ventrone not catching, a huge run-back (with a potential block inthe back) Yuck. Preseason football looks like shit.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
I would've called
2 penalties on that return, but whatever… I hope Cassel is done for the night. And they’ll do some blocking…
Take a step back time
...and think like a coach. Everything called is called to get a specific kind of look at a key few folks.
And Randy Cross knows better than he speaks. So he’s pissing me off, too.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
hehehe...
Again its preseason… don’t read too much into the score or the actual plays… its all about evaluating the new talent. Remember we went 1-3 in the preseason and still won the Superbowl in 2003 (or was it 04, I forget)
Yeah--hard to keep all those superbowls straight, right? n/t
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Boy, Don Criqui really loves him some shopping!
He can’t shut up about Patriot Place. Sounds like he’s going to spend a few hours in the mall before he heads on down the road—maybe visit some duty-free shops, try on a thong or model a sarong or two. Maybe a pair of shoes.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
Jeez, you're easy to please. At least he knows where his feet are...
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Me either--
I’m just saying I don’t think it’s much of an upgrade.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan...
He seems to be running well… behind the second string line as well.. that looks promising
by Ogor on Aug 7, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
He’s a horse. I remember really liking him when he was with the New Jersey Farves.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No. It's a jail-break.
Baltimore is sending 4,5,6 and teeing off. They’re not even paying their tolls.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys are gonna get sick of hearing me say this...
...but Kevin Faulk is a f*cking Pro.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
And puts a shoulder into Figurs on the kickoff--
shame it was necessary.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
I still think Gutierrez looks a whole lot more comfortable and brings more to the table then Cassel. He wasn’t spectacular, but he looked decent with the second string line protecting him. Made good reads, although he should have thrown the ball away instead of the 2 sacks.
Nice
Scramble Gutierrez and catch by Evans…
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
Yeah, to both of you.
But then he killed it with a throw in the fog.
I don’t know if I’ve got much more than the 1st couple of series of the 3rd in me tonight.
Takeaways from the 1st half:
1. the upheaval across the oline is a problem—is it a sortable one? Kaczur looked lost over on the left; Hochstein and, was it Connolly?, looked like they had a number of communication problems; Yates is a sieve, Britt is slow of foot. Time will tell.
2. Thank god we’ve still got Tom Brady.
3. LaMont Jordan still has some tread on his tires.
4. Crable might be something; same for Wheatley and Merriweather. Both looked like they had a clue. Pierre Woods didn’t do badly at all.
5. Chad Jackson still looks a little clueless. Is he stupid? Or just unlucky?
6. Jerod Mayo is ready to start in the NFL right now. What a pick that was.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
another interception...yikes
still, Gutierrez is a notch above Cassel…if that’s even saying much at all.
Keep the faith!
On a side note
I just saw Brunell throw a 49 yd bomb to Meachem on espn….
Switching during commercials -
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
No...
but he looks more jacked up then ever this year….listed him @ 190lbs
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
so....
For those watching the game on TV…. How did “the Chad” look? From what little I was able to hear it sounded like he was open a couple times and either bad throws, not noticed, or hit as he caught .
Jackson didn't impress
Didn’t like Cassel and Jackson jawing at each other in the first quarter either. It appeared that Chad wasn’t where he was supposed to be, but with Cassel, who knows??? Maybe he didn’t throw it where it was supposed to be. Not a good WR-QB combination.
Keep the faith!
Hard to say.
He was hung out to dry on two quick-screens. I can’t figure out if the lineman (once Kaczur, once Britt) was just too slow getting out there, if the D was tipped off in some way, or if Jackson wasn’t setting it up right.
He was overthrown once and dropped one. There was an interception that he may have had a hand in—not sure if it was his mistake or the QB’s.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
That's fair. n/t
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
First half
Pierre Woods looked good, Gary Guyton, Lewis Sanders—they looked good, especially Sanders’ break up of that Boller long bomb in the first quarter.
Jerod Mayo’s helmet popper brought some cheers here.
Chad Jackson???? Juries still out on him in my book
Keep the faith!
LB's
Mayo looks good, like JHR said—Crable looks like he knows what he is supposed to be doing out there, he is a big bastard…..Mayo seems to make good reads, in on alot of stops
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
O'Connell
all the way…let’s see what this kid can do. Cassell did not impress, Gutierrez is worth developing…gimme the rookie..
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
But Mike Lynch can't wait for a word w/ BB.
What a treat.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
yeah...
Especially with Tank going down with a “knee injury” though time will tell with that one… Did he walk off on his own power?
he can keep sam aiken's knee company
this is one of the reasons I dislike pre-season games. A necessary evil I guess.
Keep the faith!
Gingerly, but yeah.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
have to mention LaMont Jordan too
thought he looked really good in the first half. He was barging his way through the line like Corey Dillon used to do.
Keep the faith!
Except not slow.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
amen
I like that style and think it fits the Pats offensive scheme…dillon,smith—both put their heads down and plowed through the line…Maroney jumps around too much for me…
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
Oh ferchrissakes. Can we even get a snap?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
well....
I hate to say you are right in this situation JHR, but both gutierrez and Cassel now have 1 INT and 1 FUMBLE lost
In his defence, it was rookie center Wendell.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Slater
On a decent return. Future as a kick returner?
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That was his primary job at UCLA.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks!!
Just got back from Browns up in Hampton. It was torture being away.
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I think you're gonna like this kid Mayo.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw some of the highlights. Big, fast and smart
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Meriweather
With a decent stick. Read that well.
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What're you--on dial-up?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wife had the DVR 45 secs behind. Aarrgghh!!
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Ha!
What is this DVR of which you speak?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Rabbit Ears.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too...he's like a bull in a china shop
If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.' And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is 'Probably because of something you did.'
- Jack Handey
These guys are yakking about Jackie Slater...
He was one of my heros in HS. By the time I graduated from HS, he’d been playing football - at all levels - for 30 years. Unbelievable to have that kind on longevity in a sport where they average pro career is 3 years.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
sigh....
I am locked up on NFL.com at 10:29 in the 3rd quarter… anything happen with that last drive?
How is it that Ray Lewis continues to get a free pass?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
Did I just hear right?
Cam Cam is the OC for Baltimore? I guess he was bound to land somewhere.
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I was in IN
when he was at IU. I always felt like Randle El made Cam Cam look almost competent.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
2s and 3s on 2s and 3s
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, there you go...
there’s some weed, right from Androscoggin County….er, I mean, Hops. From Bavaria…yeah.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You seem to know a bit about this. How so?
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I used to work at a brew pub.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what you meant, right?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda joking about the weed reference. Worked at a brew pub, huh?
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Yeah, I knew that.
The brew pub part is true, though. It was fun, ‘cause they wanted us to be competent to talk about the beer the way a waiter in a good restaurant can talk about the wine. So we got lots of lessons in hops and barley, different baking techniques and brewing procedures. Plus, plenty of beer to drink.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin looks good. His line sucked in college, so he ran a lot.
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It's all relative.
You’re used to seeing Brady and Cassell, who are about equally cement-footed.
As to how a 6-6 guy can move like that, it’s not so unprecedented. Practically every guard in the NBA is in that range.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Our linebacking corps
is looking pretty solid and pretty deep. This is a good thing.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, Woods with a good slap down. Crable never stops
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Way to help out the offense, buddy.
Our kick units are going to get reamed in film tomorrow.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
Nicely Done!
Let’s hope the rule it caught.
Looks like we might lose this one.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions
Kevin with some good jivin', BB challenges. Looks good, to me.
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stinking force-out rule doesn't exist anymore
but you gotta love o’connell escaping the blitz.
Keep the faith!
I'm liking Kevin. Jeez, who needs another QB? ;-)
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Cassel might be worried, but it's early
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AAAAY!
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
Man...
I can’t wait to see Jordan playing with Moss, Welker, Watson and Maroney. That will be one hell of an offensive lineup
Speaking of which....
Eckle is stil Practice squad eligible right? I know he is in the Navy, and might have to back on active duty if he doesn’t make the cut, but baring that we could keep him on the Practice squad right?
I think he's only allowed so many trips up and down. 3 I believe? Guessing...
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That wasn't O'Connell's bad. Blitzed like crazy.
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Flacco for the Ravens. Let's see how he compares to our #5
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Kids, I'm outta here.
Pretty good show.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
Woods recovers a fumble, he's all over the field!!
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pretty good series for O'Connell so far
gives a glimpse into why he rated a 3rd round pick
Keep the faith!
Exactly, but I think BB is just trying something to see how the guys do
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2 shots at each division rival. Hope Brady smokes him.
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in my opinion...
Getting Favre shoots the team in the foot for the long term. They just shot the confidence of all their incumbent QB’s, and Farve won’t be worth it for more then a season or two. It sounds like Mangina trying to save his job.
I don't get....
Kneeling down at the end of a game in the pre season. Pre-season isn’t about W or L, its about evaluating your talent. That is wasted time IMHO
Very revealing. Interesting to see who goes
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