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Success is either Belichick or Brady - A Catch 22...or is it?

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Ever since the greatest quarterback of this era, Tom Brady, suffered a left flat tire, there's been a theory floating around.  A theory so irrefutable that many say it creates a Catch 22.  Here ya go: If the Patriots do well this season, then their success can be attributed to Bill Belichick and the coaching system he's put in place.  Clearly, in that case, Tom Brady is a mediocre quarterback and simply the product of a great system.  On the other side of the coin, if the Patriots flounder, Bill Belichick and his system are in question and have been the beneficiary of a great quarterback in Tom Brady, hitting the quarterback lottery, if you will.  Ironclad, right?  Of course.  Obviously there's no way out of this one.  Clearly.  Horsepucky. 

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This line of reasoning is so pedestrian and sophmoric, I'm surprised it's made it past the sixth graders reading the sports page.  Like a cheap prom dress, it unravels quickly.  Like a Miller Lite, it's initially thirst quenching, but ultimately unsatisfying.  Like a...drop it, dude.  Ok, one more.  Like a Family Guy episode, it makes me want to puke.  So let's easily tear it to shreds, shall we?

If the Patriots do well without him, Brady's a mediocre QB

  • When Brady took over the reins in 2001, the team wasn't much to write home about.  Coming off of a 5-11 2000 regular season, things opened up in 2001.  Troy Brown went from 944 yards to 1199.  First down conversions went from 82/234 to 91/221 and TDs went up from 28 to 43.  Clearly, "The Team" benefitted from having a capable leader on the field.
  • 3 Rings.  'Nuff said.  Success like that doesn't happen without a great quarterback to lead the team.  Oh, by the way, he's only had 1 regular season 1,000 yard receiver during those Superbowl wins (Troy Brown in 2001).  Teams with average quarterbacks just don't win Super Bowls.  Well, almost never.
  • 2007.  Again, 'Nuff said.  He couldn't seal the deal, but that season broke more records than any other.  It was carpet bombing.  It was pillaging on a grand scale.  An average quarterback with great toys can't do what Tom did.  No way, no how.

If the Patriots do poorly without Brady, Belichick's a mediocre coach

  • Well, Belichick's clearly mediocre.  Look how bad he was at Cleveland!  Well, duh!!  That was twenty years ago.  I'd say he's learned a few things since then.  Like how to take advantage of, and mold a hidden talent like, Tom Brady.  Players don't become great by themselves.  And players can't be great without a well coached team around them.  Here's an example: In 2000, the Patriots turnover ration was -2.  In 2001, +7 (positive is good, btw).  That's a team effort and is brought on by good coaching.
  • It is quite clear that Belichick's a great coach.  Great teams are built and only great coaches know how to build them.  In 2000, Belichick was handed a team that ultimately went 5-11.  An 11-5 2001 and a ring was accomplished with a Brady passer's rating of 86.5 compared to a 2007 of 117.2.  That can only be done with a TEAM, not a group of guys and a coach reliant on a great quarterback.
  • Matt Cassel could implode (shhhhh!!).  He may just not have the talent to do what it takes.  Is this Belichick's fault?  Hardly.  Is it Belichick's fault for putting him in there?  Nope.  How many teams have first string quarterbacks waiting in the wings?  If they do, they won't be there for long.  It's stupid to think a backup can take the reins and do the impossible (think Jim Sorgi).  Or is it (think Tom Brady)?

This whole "obvious" Catch 22 arguement is a little ridiculous.  Great systems create great players.  Without the system, it's just raw talent with nowhere to go.  Mold that talent and you have a superstar.  Randy Moss, anyone?  So let's stop this silliness, shall we?  I'm going to have fun watching the New England Patriots succeed no matter what happens.  Like they've done for the past 8 years.  Welcome to Chowdah Land.  Boom Baby!!

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Belichick or Brady?

As Marissa Tomei (My Cousin Vinny) so delicately put it, “It’s a bullshit question.”

The media has the paths all laid out for the masses, one or the other, black or white, but definitely not both. ESPN’s Jeff Chadiha bluntly laid out his theory the day after Brady’s injury, that “if Belichick’s track record before Brady tells us anything, it’s that this head coach has plenty to prove in the next few months”.

We don’t know how good a coach Belichick is when Brady isn’t his quarterback. For those who don’t remember, Belichick looked exactly like a guy who was working his way out of town before Brady replaced an injured Drew Bledsoe in the second week of the 2001 season. The Patriots won just five games in his first season (2000) at the helm and started the next campaign with two losses. Combine those numbers with Belichick’s well-documented failures in Cleveland as the Browns’ head coach, and he has a 42-58 record in the NFL without Brady as his starter.

The issue is whether Belichick can maintain such a lofty reputation while relying on a backup quarterback named Matt Cassel, a four-season veteran who hasn’t started a meaningful football game since his senior year of high school.

The Globe’s Tony Massarotti sped his question to the on-line masses the same day as the injury, “The coach or the quarterback? The quarterback or the coach? Maybe now we’ll finally get our answer.” He might as well have added, “Enquiring minds want to know.”

What the Patriots might have, too, is an enormous void at quarterback that could unmask or further elevate one of the great coaches in NFL history.

Oh, Puleeze. His reasoning leads his readers to believe that it’s a chicken-egg kind of thing, where there can only be one answer, but he’s so wrong. They’re all wrong.

The Patriots’ system matters. It works. Brady is a better player, with better statistics because of it. He’s so talented he’d be good on any team, but maybe not so effective. Belichick is a great coach, who still coaches and never stood around waiting for Brady’s “magic” to build his resume. The problem is that Brady makes it look easy for the coach, and The System makes it look easy for Brady. In truth, there’s a lot of work involved on both sides and each one makes the other, and the team, a bit better all around.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Sep 16, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As far as the Pats go,

I agree with everything you said. But allow me to play Devil’s Advocate for a minute. Great systems will create great players, but sometimes a great player can carry a system to a point. For example, think about Dan Marino. Imagine IF the “genius” Don Shula had built a defense and an offensive line like BB has done here. Marino would probably have multiple rings. But the “great” Shula thought and expected Dan to win on his own because he was a great quarterback. I have never been a Dolphins fan(and never will be), but I admire what Marino did without the supporting cast like we have here.

To sum up, it is a BS question, as Marisa put it. It requires coaching and then having players that have the ability to do the jobs their position demands. It takes all the parts working together to build a winner, and I don’t believe this dynasty is close to being dead yet.

"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"

by Ironman63 on Sep 16, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How quickly the media forget...

…that even Tom Brady wasn’t the best QB of the era when Drew Bledsoe went down with that chest injury and he became the starter. Look at his numbers from that season — pretty pedestrian. Yet Belichick shepherded him and the rest of the team to a Super Bowl win.

The fact of the matter is that Belichick is a better coach because of Brady, but Brady is also a far better QB than he would have been without Belichick.

by RSNexile on Sep 16, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Growing in the job.

The media have the attention span of a gnat.

Brady was riding a tricycle in 2001. By 2007, he was piloting a Maserati.
In 2001, the coach was in the driver’s seat.
By 2007, he filed the flight plan then sat in the co-pilot’s chair on game day.

The roles shifted over time—slowly and not without difficulty (9-7 anyone?). More than half the guys now wondering if Belichick is capable were still panning Brady as a system quarterback as late as the SB win over the Eagles.

It’s a dodge—and a pretty artless one at that. You need something to write? You want to make your name? Give ’em a half-baked turd on a plate, with a sprig of parsley to make it look more like a meal. Try not too work too hard, but make it seem convincing. And pray the reading public has just as short an attention span as you do.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Sep 16, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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