Post Game Thread: Patriots defeat Titans, 59-0
by MaPatsFan on Oct 18, 2009 7:23 PM EDT
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PrintWhat can be said. On a snowy October day, our New England Patriots unleashed some hurt on an 0-6 team. I don't, in any way, shape or form, think this is representative of how they will do against Miami, NYJ, or Indy. But, we did see Tom Brady throwing well in very crappy weather. That's a good thing.
At any rate, discuss.
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One more preseason game before the real challenges start
Tampa in “Tampa” next week, then the bye, then the playoffs.
I'll say it, good game Pats
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Oct 18, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
How would you rate maroney's performance overall, and why.
i give it a B to B+ because he didn’t dance TOO much this game, picked up big yards, had good-great vision, and ran more hard than i seen him this season.
And the run game working
They were up to 200 yards before those final kneeldowns.
BJGE+LoMo
Hopefully this was a result of actual emergence instead of a result of terrible competition and bad weather. Great job, I saw a moment where LoMo was about to start dancing in the backfield and then burst for a gap. Didn’t gain more than 4 on the play, but it was good to see the gears in his head churning.
I still wish BJGE would get more touches during actual games.
Assuming Freddy’s gone, we have:
Sammy Morris, who is possibly injured, for catching from the backfield
Faulk who is the best 3rd down RB ever ever ever
LoMo who, hopefully, has re-learned how to run
BJGE who can run as well.
I’d like to see LoMo and BJGE splits carries (or 75/25…sharing someway) on running downs, Sammy Morris on passing plays on 1st/2nd downs and Faulk on 3rd. I think that would be awesome.
Lindell for the win…..
think Ryan will Ice him?
by Richard Hill on Oct 18, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
The Jets were hot int he beginning of the season. When they come to Foxboro, expect a revenge game.
Just a guess
Rex Ryan and the Jets might be toning down their pre-game trash talking.
Keep the faith!
I love how the BEST Tenn QB was 0-2 with one interception
That’s just hilarious. And they had a total negative yardage in the pass game, on a day where Brady and even Hoyer put up yards.
Only real Cons that I can see...
C. Johnson went 17 for 128 (7.5 y/c) and a long of 48
J. Ringer went 7 for 47 (6.7 y/c) and a long of 32
I want to attribute that to the weather, but I think we’re going to have to improve that stat line.
I don't think that's the weather
The Pats haven’t done too well against the run this year.
I hate the Jets
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 18, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
NFL Power Rankings
How much will this win push the Pats up the rankings? Our biggest drop was 10 last week. How much will we go up?
Probably not much
they beat the lowest team, effectively. It’s like beating up on the Lions or Rams – it means nothing.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
We might go down
Some of the analysts will say the Pats ran up the score, and others will criticize them for not doing better (i.e., running up the score) against an underachieving team that didn’t bother to show up.
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the bills intercepted it!!!!!!!!!! JETS, RYAN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
That looked like the Jets' DB was the intended receiver
Anyone think the Bills are angling to draft Sam Bradford? If they manage to get him, does that mean his shoulder injury will never heal completely?
Wow, Sanchez sucks!
Why couldn’t he play like that against us?
Who will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 18, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
Nope
Last week it was possible, though, and it happened — Buffalo lost, and Cleveland was still coached by Mangini.
What about Raiders vs. Browns?
It’d be a race to see who screws up coaching versus managing most diabolically.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
At half time, they might swap coaching staff
or better yet – coaching fisticuffs. OH MAN. That’s what I want to see. Cable beating the crap out of Mangini.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong question
You should be asking, “What if Al Davis hired Eric Mangini to coach the Raiders?”
Nobody really knows, but I’ve heard some physicists suggest that’s how black holes are formed.
I heard part of the interview process for Head Coach
involves running a 40 yard sprint. Anyone think Mangini would survive that?
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The playcalling by the Bills is just godawful.
Cover-your-eyes, please don’t let me f- this up. Weak, cowardly playcalling.
But I hate the Jets, so I hope it all works.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 18, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions
yessss
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions
How about those Bills pulling it out for us.
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions
join the club. I hate the Jets more than any other team
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Oct 18, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
J-E-T-S...
Oh how the Sanchise has fallen.
by Richard Hill on Oct 18, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
hilarious game
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
There are times in my life wheere I have self-doubt, but when this happens, I simply ask myself: What would Don Draper do? So I bone a random whore.
Its beginning to feel like 2007
This game reminded me of the destruction of Arizona last December. Tennessee was bothered by the weather. The Pats were horny to play. Pats receivers caught everything in sight. Brady is finally sharpening up. Sebastian Vollmer and Logan Mankins make an outstanding left side. Edelmann continues to improve. Randy was obviously all world. There is still some hope for Maroney. The preseason ends next week when Belichick destroys the Bucs in front of the queen. Then the real starts. It is begining to feel like 2007.
let's break it down, Bruschi-style...
How do we feel about being number one in the AFC East? Ohhhhhh Yeah!
Keep the faith!
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
by MOSS81 on Oct 18, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow the Titans suck
did they even try?
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
There are times in my life wheere I have self-doubt, but when this happens, I simply ask myself: What would Don Draper do? So I bone a random whore.
They looked like they tried when they stopped the Pats on a third-down.
And then they looked like they tried when the Pats missed a FG. But after the next turnover, they fell to pieces.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
woooooow
To be honest… I thought Manning did a good job on the Titans, real good job, but what TB did to the Titans was so masterful, its like kind of comparing a student to a professor, in my opinion he made Manning look small like he did many times before. All in a little more than HALF A GAME.
Maroney
Had to comment on Maroney’s game today. He looked like the 2007 Maroney we all knew and loved, scrabbling for those extra yards, running vertical, finding holes, etc… but I have to point out something. Did you see the size of the holes he was running through most of the time? How much credit for that goes to Sebastian Vollmer, as opposed to the lousy Titans defense? I thought Vollmer came up big, literally, today.
Keep the faith!
What does this mean for the future?
Are we seeing a changing of the guard? (Or, in this case, changing of the tackle?)
by Richard Hill on Oct 18, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not yet
Matt Light’s still being paid, and he is an ex-Pro Bowl tackle. Vollmer can still learn, and he’s useful as a bench player because he can play both sides. I just expect him to get more reps from now on.
The thing that might keep Vollmer off the starting lineup is that he’s good and he’s capable of playing both sides. Hoodie can trust him, and he can also use an extra game-day roster slot on something else, if necessary. Benching Matt Light means he’d need a RT on the bench, too.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Had to comment because you never see something like this from Marima
, scrabbling for those extra yards,
I know you meant scrambling, but the mental picture here was too funny.
“Let’s see, I used the Q and Z that’s ten points each, double letter score on each, triple word score on the whole thing…”
“No dang it, you’re running up the score!”
Too funny.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I love Scrabble : )
Just combining a favorite player with a favorite game, as in, Maroney was playing Shaqtastiq.
Haha… no excuse on that one. I even read it over before posting. Ugh.
Keep the faith!
No problem, I've been messing up there their and they're lately.
Now what’s the score on SHAQTASTIQ. That’s two Q’s for ten each…. :-)
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't get youtube at work
Yes, I’m working, shhhhhh.
I’ll have to wait until I get home.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
“Where’d you get so many Q’s” “Don’t worry about it. My Turn.”
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Couple Questions from the Game
1) Butler started over Springs. What does this mean? Are they giving Butler reps against a weaker pass offense, or has he earned the starting position?
2) Thomas was a healthy scratch. What does this mean for our linebacker core?
3) Vollmer’s excellent performance. I’m sure he won’t be replacing Light this year, but is he going to see more reps as the year continues?
4) Moss and Welker were awesome and Edelman and Aiken did a passable job. Which player is going to emerge as the dependable 3rd receiver? I think Aiken will be seeing much more time.
My thoughts
1 – Horses for courses, maybe. Springs can cover Safety, and I remember seeing Sanders is still on the injury list. Tennessee also seemed to miss a big, physical WR, which is usually the player that Springs draws (the whole TO rivalry thing being a case in point) and it may have been he was useful as a package player today than something else.
2 – This seemed to me to be a disciplinary or family-related thing. He missed practices this week for non-injury reasons, so whatever happened was protracted and kept him from practicing/game-planning, etc. What happens next week in terms of practices will tell a lot.
3 – He’ll get more reps, but I don’t see him outright replacing Light yet. He’s too valuable as a bench player who can cover both sides – he leaves open a slot for an extra linebacker or D-back or whatever is necessary for the week.
4 – 50/50 torn between the two. Edelman’s definitely got some use, and Belichick seems to have a scheme of down-and-distance to put him in. I’m not sure there will even be a traditional 3rd WR – it might be Aiken in as third for a particular game situation, and Edelman in for others.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
just a thought...
4. Do you think Belichick will just keep benching Galloway until Brandon Tate comes off PUP?
Keep the faith!
I'm still hanging out to see how Tate is
They would need to put him into practice for three weeks before they can activate him, so if he’s out there, then there’s a good chance they intend to use him. The fact that Galloway isn’t even making the game-day roster means it’s just that little bit more likely – even if they activate Tate, they don’t have to use him, and all they lose is Galloway’s pay. In the meantime, Tate gets to do whatever he’s physically capable of, picks up the Pats system, and can be used if necessary. Considering he was considered first-round talent before his injury, if he’s able to be used, they’ll want him. Especially since he’s a stud of a returner – he wouldn’t even need to know the complicated pass system and they’d get value out of him being there, which is more than they can say about Galloway at the moment.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
DON'T LOOK AT THIS GAME AS MUCH
1. Maroney still dances
2. There was no pass defense
3. Vollmer didn’t let anybody get to Brady did he and the one thing that is known about this titan’s defense is they can get to the QB. Not much else but that is big and adds more value to Vollmer’s performance.
4. If we win out then I place value on this game as the offense finally findings it’s groove bec the defense was that bad!
Why we hate NE!!
The Pats are a low-class joke! Who purposely runs up the score like that? Bellijerk just proved to all that he’s a grumpy, vindictive little troll along with being a convicted (by the NFL) liar & cheater. Thw whole nation, outside of NE, was doing cartwheels when you got what you so richly deserved in the Super Bowl.
This will come back around to bite you on the A**.
Why you really hate NE!!
From the Official Site of the Pittsburgh Steelers, prior to the November 30, 2008 game, which the Steelers won:
Pittsburgh is 0-2 all-time at Gillette Stadium…Pittsburgh has not won in New England since a 24-21 overtime victory in 1997…the Steelers snapped the Patriots’ NFL-record 18-game regular-season winning streak in 2004 with a 34-20 victory at Heinz Field on Oct. 31…New England has won six of the past seven games in the series, including victories in the 2001 and 2004 AFC Championship games, both in Pittsburgh…prior to their 34-20 victory in 2004, the last time that the Steelers defeated the Patriots was 7-6 on Jan. 3, 1997 in the AFC Divisional Game at Three Rivers Stadium…the Steelers are 9-5 overall against the Patriots at home in the regular season…Pittsburgh and New England have met four times in the postseason and the Steelers are 1-3 in those games, including a 1-2 record at home…the Steelers defeated the Patriots, 7-6, on Jan. 3, 1998, in the AFC Divisional Playoffs…however, Pittsburgh lost, 24-17, to the Patriots in the AFC Championship Game Jan. 27, 2002, and 41-27 in the 2004 AFC Championship Game.
Keep the faith!
and about the... um..'cheating' thing?
I think you forgot that Steroid use is cheating too. Plus, that was a killer. Literally.
Keep the faith!
If you're looking for a reason to hate, you will find it anywhere
BTW, are you shaving yet?
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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
and electrolysis on the chin hairs....
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
On another note...
…the Steelers manage to squeak out a win against the Detroit Housecats and only beat the Titan team 13-10!
Seriously, I understand that you’re trying to troll, but the same old story is just that… same as it’s always been and it’s getting old.
I see nothing wrong with what the Patriots did. They eased up, as everyone has said. First half of the game is fair game for everyone involved. Let’s see how all of the scores happened:
1st Touchdown: Maroney ran 45 yards. First touchdown of the game, no need for an excuse.
Score: 7-0
1st Field Goal: No need to explain, getting points early.
1st Quarter Score: 10-0
2nd Touchdown: Brady for 40 yards to Moss. Still early, no need for reasoning, right?
Score: 17-0
3rd Touchdown: We started within their 30 yard line. 2 plays, Brady again throwing the long pass to Moss. What do you expect? Stop playing after getting the ball 10 yards out of their Red Zone?
Score: 24-0
4th Touchdown: Tom Brady threw a Screen pass to Faulk. A screen play. How is it the Patriots fault that the Titans couldn’t tackle him? 33 yards.
Score: 31-0
5th Touchdown: Alright, now I can see the “running the score” complaints starting to come into play. However, due to the past couple of weeks, it is clear that TB needed some work on his deep pass as ALL of us have said. What happens? Brady to Wes for 30 yards. He was wide open. Sure, maybe BB could have called different plays, but if we want Brady back in shape, shouldn’t we continue forcing him to make the plays that were troubling him? What better practice then against real “competition”?
Score: 38-0
6th Touchdown: Set up by Tennessee’s 20 yard punt. We got the ball on the TT’s 49. Again, is that our fault? Okay, you’re argument is that it’s in the 2 minute mark. What do we all see? Brady being forced to manage the game, something that he’s struggled in the past couple of games. Result? TD2 to Wes.
Halftime Score: 45-0
How can people complain for Brady playing for half a game? What have all the “analysts” been saying? Brady’s still rusty. He’s washed up. He’s not the same. What did he do? In a half of football, he tried to erase all that questioning. Now that it appears he’s on track all the critics are back.
Second Half:
Do you really expect the Patriots to run out the clock for an ENTIRE HALF? That is ludicrous. What was the main complaint against Brady in the Broncos debacle? His sudden disappearance in the second half. Perhaps that has to do with him cooling over over the half. Who knows? Now we know it’s not that. By allowing Brady to come in after the half, we give him confidence and push him further in this game at a high level (Playing time-wise) than before in this whole season. That is what we need. Brady playing 60 minutes- something he hasn’t done all season.
7th Touchdown: Brady to Moss on the opening drive.
Score: 52-0.
Alright, now they bench Brady. There’s still a quarter and a half of football left. What are the Patriots supposed to do? In the prior quarter in a half they scored 42 points. In the last quarter and a half they score 7. With their back-ups. That’s called easing up.
With Brian Hoyer as the ONLY back-up quarterback on the team, of COURSE they want to give him some real reps on the field. He performed well enough, but where’s the experience if they plug him in the field for a quarter in a half of hand-offs? Let him throw and gain REAL experience.
Sure, the Patriots went for it on 4th downs. Are they supposed to punt when they’re in Titan territory? That’s silly. Going for the field goal is a cheap and easy score. At least going for it on 4th down allows the Titans to provide the stop.
BB and the Patriots could have challenged plays, called time outs and piled the points, but they didn’t. They played a half of football and let the back-ups do the rest. How is that supposed to be “unclassy”?
by Richard Hill on Oct 19, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Brady could have gone back to pass
and Maroney could have tackled him for loss.
Seriously, Brady went into the game wondering if he would ever connect again. When he was able to connect, he was on cloud nine. Sometimes you got to fix your own problems before you can help someone else.
We’ve got Tampa Bay coming up, then
Dolphins (1-1) last year
Colts (0-1) last year
NY Jets (0-1) this year, (1-1) last year
Saints (who just killed the Giants
Dolphins again
Panthers
Bills who played us well week 1
Jaguars
Texans
We need an offense if we’re even going to be close in some of those games.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I always wondered about that
If the best pass rush put on Brady all day was provided by his own halfback, would that be more or less insulting than “running up the score”?
And if so, is that more insulting than putting in backups? I’d have thought putting backups in at halftime is like saying “We don’t respect you at all, play against our undrafted weiner rookies in their first game and still watch them carve you up.” Ouch. But apparently that’s the thing to do.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Such an Apologist "Homer" Honk!
What a Revisionist load of crap!! When you’re up 38-0 you don’t go on 4th down, you punt or kick the FG,,,,you don’t pile it on in the last 2 mins. of the half……you don’t throw down the field to pile it up, you call running plays and punt. Even if you make the playoffs this year, you’re going to have to go on the road where it ain’t snowing and your depleted defense will get torched. You must be in denial…….you went from the darling underdog after your 1st SB win to the most hated football franchise in the country in a few short years….how do you think that happened? Ask Bellijerk the Cheater.
by Steelers_Fan on Oct 19, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah. Still here?
You don’t consider the 3 points “piling it on”, but giving the defense an opportunity to provide the stop is? You want them to start running down the clock in the middle of the second quarter? Why didn’t the Giants get this flack for what they did to the Raiders? They benched Eli around halftime, just like how we benched Brady. It’s not the Patriots fault they weren’t stopped in the first half. You want us to punt in the other team’s red zone? You’re being ridiculous, but that’s okay because you created your account just to troll here. It’s to be expected.
by Richard Hill on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Why punt?
You’re prolonging a game with dead-ball time. And when you’re completing 90% of your passes, there isn’t a real difference between running it and passing it, clock-management-wise, because the ball is barely ever dead. You may as well march down the field with the clock ticking over, to get the game over and done with. When the Tennessee team are completing as many passes to the Pats as they are to the Titans, giving them the ball is just another way to make them look foolish.
Just look at the score. 40-something points in the first half, a dozen in the second. And that was the half the Pats put in an undrafted rookie QB on NFL debut in. Seriously. It’s not the Pats fault that the Titans let him do his thing.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You hate because you want to hate. Period.
Pats are bashed when they do (their running up the score), they’re bashed when they don’t (Brady’s washed up).
Whatever. Throwing screens and dumps gives the backup some practice throwing. They gain about the same yardage as the runs were. What’s the difference. Hoyer’s TD was 2 QB sneaks in a row. Can’t stop the QB? How can you stop the RB?
Jimmy from Music City Miracles said, “They didn’t run up the score. They could have hung 90 on us if they wanted too.”
I trust his opinion more than yours. If the Titans come back and whoop on us, good for them. They are virtually the same team as last year, but they aren’t gelling. I hope they do find some life. I wish them well.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
So you're suggesting that it would be better to go for the field goal
and get the sure 3 points (isn’t that running up the score though?) instead of going for it on fourth down and giving the Titans a chance to stop them and have the Pats turn it over on downs????
Come on. It’s a no-win with you. And now you’re claiming that the Pats can only win in the snow??? Make some sense man!
Keep the faith!
I know what you're meant to do
You’re meant to march down the field, taking all the time off the clock. You then get to the opposition ten yard line, and take four consecutive knees, thus not running up the score.
Because that isn’t patronising at all.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Or throw in the JV girls squad
and say, “You’re now good enough to play adult men, so watch their daughters kick your butt.”
Somehow, I think they’d rather lose to Brady, Moss, and Welker. At least those guys are Pro-bowl caliber.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 19, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently it's the fault of the Pats offence
that the opposition couldn’t break 0 yards passing. Bahaha. Ess-emm-arr-tee.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
I could TOTALLY see BB doing that against the Jets on ’07.
by Richard Hill on Oct 19, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Riddle me this, friend
When you score, kickoff, and the opposition turns the ball over to you in their own half, how do you avoid scoring? What do you do, punt the ball in their red-zone? Seriously. What can you do?
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 19, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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