Pot calling the kettle black, Peyton Manning plays well into 4th quarter of Rams drubbing

Because that game was a couple of weeks ago and Peyton came out because the 2nd team defense went in and couldn’t get off the field. Had they been able to, Sorgi was all ready to go in. We also alowed them 2 garbage time TDs.

Or, do you mean the Rams, perhaps? Hm…I could have sworn Sorgi played.

Comparing a point deferential of 36 to one of 59 is a little ridiculous, imo.

This is something I’d expect from Babe not so much from you, MaPatsFan. It just seems a little angry is all.

And, not all of us agreed with that post by the way.

I believe in the redeptive work of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Karma doesn’t fit into that mind state.
I do believe that people find motivation where they choose to find motivation, and some of that may be to try to hurt other players. That has nothing to do with Karma, it is simply their perception of revenge. Which in my world view, no is allowed to exact.

We live in what is refered to as a causal world. This event causes that event. All Karma does is tries to force causes upon certain outcomes. The light went out. It’s because you kicked that poodle yesterday. It couldn’t be a bad bulb, or that you forgot to pay the electric bill. What a load of dribble.

Thanks.

First, a thanks to the REASONABLE Colts fans for an intelligent back and forth. AJforAZ and peytonsthebest rep your team well.

As you know, I’m usually very mild mannered and try to stick to talking about my team and not writing specifically to trash another team. Sure, I’ll throw the occasional barb in here and there but on the whole, it’s Patriots all the way. My tiny brain can only keep track of so many things, so one team is enough.

Every once in a while, something gets the best of me. The StampedeBlue FanPost linked above was one of those times. By and large, most of the regulars and the folks I respect, either kept quiet about it or piped in with their disagreement. Even if posters DID feel it was running up the score, they at least had a cogent argument as to why and were willing to intelligently discuss the subject without descending to “Belicheat, Cheatriots” B.S.

It got to me because this whole discussion about class is a bit ridiculous. It’s a highly overrated term, one that is so subjective as to render it an irrelevant as part of any useful discussion. I especially find it silly to say one team or player has “classier” wins. It’s consistently used by fans of one team to differentiate themselves from a rival’s fanbase. Utter hogwash.

I’m expecting a win when you guys play them or a few of the other teams that they face. As usual Peyton Manning is getting all the credit and claims of him be a contender for MVP is all about. It is annoying, so shut him down or I’ll expect the Ravens, Texans, or Broncos to do it. I wish my team played the games they did that way people would be screaming Chad Henne for MVP. I’ve officially decided to support Tom Brady over Peyton in the Brady-Manning debate. But don’t get me wrong I still want my team to do better than yours this is just the one instance where I cross the border.

I live just outside St. Louis, and I was at the Rams/Colts game this past Sunday.

First, Sorgi did come in about halfway through the 4th quarter, but it was only for about 3 plays over 2 drives because 2 of those plays were runs in for TDs. The Rams had the ball for the rest of the half. SMP, I don’t know why he has no stats on NFL.com, unless its because all he did was hand off, not make any throws. And for reference, I had no problem with how long Brady was in the game against Tennessee. They took him out at the half, which was fine by me.

Secondly, the Colts did one thing that I was upset about and thought was a little lame. With 5:56 left in the game with the score 38-6 and they were on the Rams 46 yard line, they went for it on a 4th and 5. I didn’t think they needed to go for it on that occasion, the Rams were not going to make a comeback, and I thought they should have punted the ball. That being said, I don’t believe this can be blamed on Peyton Manning. he was headed for the sideline and taking his helmet off and the coach ran over to him and told him to get back on the field. I got the impression that it was a coach’s call, not Mannings.

Not trying to take a side in the discussion, just pointing out a couple of things from someone who was at the game. =)

is that, however improbable the chance, total points are still part of the NFL’s equation for determining standings as a tiebreaker, and thus still can affect a team’s postseason fortunes.

Yes, it’d be nice if we could see “sportsmanship” in all facets of the game (as if scoring lots of points is the most egregious violation of the player code, worse than standing over fallen players, spitting, twisting other guys’ limbs in fumble scrums, celebrating a routine pass breakup like you won the lottery). But if people want to eliminate teams pouring it on when the opponent is clearly beaten, the NFL needs to remove total points from having any kind of mathematical impact on a team’s success.

Otherwise, who can blame anyone, whether it be the Colts, Patriots, Jets, Saints, Bengals for doing everything they can to make sure they get a playoff spot?

If you don’t play 100% of your ability for 60 minutes, then you’re effectively giving the mediocre teams carte blanche to not try. The salary cap and reverse draft order is there to guarantee some semblance of parity in the league – if some teams blow draft picks or salary cap on poor players or don’t spend in the first place, that’s their prerogative, and they should be punished for it. If that means they get stomped on every game, and lose viewers and supporters and revenue, that’s their own fault for shortchanging their franchise by not investing in their product correctly – good players, coaches and the like.

Face it – it’s a business. It’s big business. And they should be treated accordingly – if the particular franchise won’t invest its revenue properly, they should deal with the resultant consequences. Letting off the accelerator against “weak” teams only gives those teams a reason not to do business properly. Given the revenue-sharing deals between the owners, why should a good owner (say, Kraft) basically lend money to an incompetent organisation whom he knows won’t use it wisely and give a good product? It’s in Kraft’s best interests to force the lesser teams to pick up their act and actually produce a good product and team through wise husbandry of resources.

…by just saying Wes Welker is our 5th Running Back and he’s just handling long-ball handoffs. We don’t have a RB to run down the clock, nor do we want to just hand the ball back to the other team. We have WRs who stay in-bounds and pick up yardage on little dink and dump passes (unless someone’s painfully open downfield) and keep the clock running. I guess the passes make us get down the field twice as fast, but it’s our only real option apart from physically stopping our own offense by running the ball with SloMo.

I don’t think anyone’s really been running up the score, just taking advantage of mid-season games at a pre-season difficulty level, ironing out plays that need work and giving bench players valuable in-game experience. Seriously, if the level of parity in the NFL is so shot, no one and no team can be blamed for ending up in the end zone.

http://www.nfl.com/players/jimsorgi/gamelogs?id=SOR431260

This has been a great discussion and I really enjoy talking to you guys. Since the change in leadership you guys have been really welcoming and accommodating. I would just like to let you know that I enjoy reading what you guys and gals have to say about our differing opinions. If you don’t mind I’ll probably be here to toss in a Colts bias and as objective as possible commentary when its not Colts related and seems appropriate. I’ll try not to wear out my welcome (please let me know if I ever start).

I’ve played soccer competitively in three countries. When my son got into soccer (our town was just starting a soccer program), I started coaching soccer U14 (12-13 year-olds). Younger kids are easier they’ll listen. These guys were like, “I’ve got a foot, I know how to kick, you can’t teach me anything.” They really thought they were good. They went into their first game and lost 14-0 (In football that would be like 98-0). Didn’t bother me a bit. They needed to be broken. They needed to learn their weaknesses. They needed to become a team. It gave us a point of reference to build on. Were they down? You bet! They were all about, “We suck. We’ll never be any good.” That, I can work with.

“Remember, when you stopped the ball, and they just took it away?” “Yeah.” “Here’s how you stop that.” “Oh, that works?” “Yeah, that works.”

A few more shut-outs in the 5-0 range, celebrating our first goal, our first win, our first winning streak. We became a team. I was very happy for that 14-0. If they had stopped at 4-0, there would have been no living with them. Oh, and those were kids.