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New England Patriots Links 10/27/09 - Myth Busting on the Bye

Looks like a handshake deluxe to me - even has one arm around his shoulder.  Shame on the Wall St. Journal.

Michael Corkery (Wall Street Journal) What Goldman Sachs can learn from Bill Belichick.  This is another example of a myth being taken for reality.  The Wall Street Journal might want to do a bit of fact-checking before printing and perpetuating lies like this.  The Patriots were never accused of "covertly video taping" anything, let alone a "Jets practice to learn their plays."  Corkery and the Journal should be ashamed. (More photos of the 'event' here)

Perhaps Blankfein could learn a few things from New England Patriot coach Bill Belichick. The coach doesn’t care if people like him or his team. He frustrates reporters with terse, evasive answers in news conferences. His staff was accused of covertly video taping a New York Jets practice to learn their plays. And when he loses (like after the Pats’ surprise loss to the NY Giants in the Superbowl in 2008), he’s been known not to shake hands with the opposing coach. What Belichick cares mostly about is winning.

Bill Belichick on the value of QB Tom Brady.  We know it, but it's nice to hear it out loud once in a while.

Tom's comfortable. Of course he's got a comfortable runoff, doing it for nine years. Tom's the guy that works hard and every week he's such a positive player on our football team, both for himself, our team and the younger players, particularly a week like this with Sam and Brandon and even Matt Slater jumping in there taking a few plays. Nobody prepares harder than Tom. Nobody works harder than Tom. And all the success that he gets on the field he really deserves, because he puts so much into it and gives so much of himself for this football team. He's a great leader. He's a great worker. And I'm glad he's our quarterback. There's nobody I'd rather have than Tom Brady.

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To all the people that say BB is lucky because he has TB, the only answer I could say while shaking my head, is how many UNLUCKY teams passed on Brady 5 TIMES on that draft day, you can’t be unlucky 5 times, maybe stupid few times, but the fact that a coach was able to use a draft pick on him after wondering thru the late rounds to why no one picked TB, and drafting him late due to prior picks used earlier for pressing needs (remember we had a franchise quarterback in D Bledsoe) is not luck. Its long hours of studying just like trading for WW and RM and drafting JE (mini WW), Chung, Meriwether and so on, who is gutsy enough of coach to replace a franchise QB like Drew with TB and keep TB the rest of the year despite all the wonders. Who is looking at the Castle trade as uneven trade- that’s if you still remember Vrable or even Seymore. So please don’t give me that crab… you think Dungy would have won without Manning, TC without the other Manning, or even the Steelers without Palamalu (however you spell it). You have to have to have good players to win, and when you win big you have to maximize your players productions and no one does it better than BB. No other team can lose so many players that were integral to the team like the Pats did this year on defense, yet they are becoming one of the best in the league, if you call coaching LUCK, then we are the luckiest in the league.

by DeepThreat2u on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

The coaching luck starts with Robert Kraft

Alot of teams passed over Belichick. After the Browns, he was considered washed-up as a head coach prospect. Even the Jets were giving him the head coach job, because they didn’t have someone better.

Kraft brought him in, gave him sweeping control, and waited it out through a bad year. The rest as they say, is history.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

Belichick might be a good defensive coordinator… but not a head coach. Haha. The Bucs passed on him. How’d that work out for them?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll have to see when we play them....

Oh, yeah, we did.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

On that note, the final word on Belichick's ability as a coach will always be Matt Cassel.

Forget the crappy year he’s having in KC (under another bad coach).

No college starts. We drafted a quarterback who had zero college starts.

With him, we went 11-5. In his first year of starting since high school In the NFL.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

That definitively should have ended the Belichick’s “genius” was getting lucky with Brady argument.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless idiots credit McDaniels "genius" for it.

He was the QB coach and O-coordinator after all. Revisionist history.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

both deserve credit, though McDaniels was basically taught by Bill

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Oct 27, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually it isn't the coaching, it's the offensive line.

They’re VERY offensive. It took slightly over one second for four defenders to be in the backfield. The left tackle and left guard stood still as guys ran around them. Pathetic, simply pathetic.

Before the season, the KC fans were going to call their O-line the Moat, because they protected the Cassel.
You can’t even call them the speed-bumps, because that would imply the defense would have to slow down.
They are more like a super highway, speeding the defenders to the backfield.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Cassel's Christmas Wish List:

Left Tackle
Left Guard
Center
Right Guard
Right Tackle
2 – Tight Ends blocking ALL THE TIME

Oh, and if it’s not too much trouble, a Wes Welker security blanky.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're the Concorde

They facilitate the sacking of the quarterback at Mach 1.4.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you Coach for years of fun watching our favorite Team

A lot of the credit was given to Pioli for drafting good players and criticism to BB for the bad ones … however with new regime it looks at first glance is going to be a very good drafting years to the point I am thinking maybe Pioli effected Bb for some failure drafts. between this year and the past few the only common thing between them is BB, this year going to produce some really good players, Chung, Butler, Brace, Proyer, Edelman and wait for Tate to develop. All good teams with good players start with drafting good players. BUT the game planning is nothing compares to BB game planning, THE PROOF, look what happened to the players that left the Patriots and what happened to them … enough said, we have at one point or other in the feature start thanking our Head Coach, Mr. BB thank you for coming to NE and we all appreciate you … you are one of kind or rare kind something like if not better than Mr. Lombardi, a true once in a life time specially in the free agency age we live in.

by DeepThreat2u on Oct 27, 2009 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

The closest thing to a bust in the 2009 draft is Brace

because he hasn’t been on the field, but even that is a suggestion that picking up Pryor in the low rounds was a steal. Whatever they did to rejig the draft analysis system worked pretty well.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imagine my shock to find that a Murdoch-owned publication stretches the truth in the name of sensationalism

I’d be only slightly more shocked to learn that the sky is blue, water is wet, and fire is hot.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

The sky is blue but

some people say that it isn’t really, because it doesn’t have the right birth certificate, because someone figured out 50 years in advance that it’d become the sky, went back and changed the birth certificate, just in case it ever needed to prove it was indeed blue.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if someone mentioned this already but Welker's love of soccer is a large reason why he is so good

He played it growing up and remains a huge fan. Supposedly he was really good too and judging from his footwork I believe it. It takes a lot of time to develop the footwork skill and balance to be good at soccer and those skills translate well to the wide receiver role. If you can cross up someone while controlling a ball at your feet then its a lot easier to psyche them out when you are simply carrying the ball.

by bbismyhero on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

How can we ignore Welker's phenomenal skills?

Impossible. Appropriate to post anywhere, anytime.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course

Belichick’s ability to get amazing talent from under other team’s noses

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Oct 27, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welker worked his way up from the practice squad to essentially #1 receiver on the Dolphins.

No one was as consistent. But Welker isn’t a #1 receiver, so the Dolphins were willing to get rid of him. Even to a division rival. He played 1 game for the Chargers, but they thought he’d be better on their practice squad.

Belichick took the same guy, stuck him into a role where he could maximize his talents, and let him go. People were incredulous that he gave up a 2nd and 7th for Welker. What a steal!

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 27, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost makes me wish the Pats had traded a second for him a year earlier

Chad Jackson who?

Note: Mr Jackson’s a free agent. You’ll notice Hoodie hasn’t spoken a word about bringing him back. Bahaha.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having a broad range of sporting background has helped a lot of guys

Tom Brady was a baseball pitcher who was good enough to get drafted, although he elected to go with football. Antonio Gates was a basketballer; Welker a soccer player. Just that added little skillset or mindset or different mental approach to things helps – Welker is extraordinarily gifted at finding space instead of playing the man, which is very similar to how soccer players pass the ball into space and not directly at their teammates. I’m not sure it’s a direct correlation, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s contributed to some extent.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction

Tom was a catcher, not a pitcher. Aha.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moss played basketball too

Now, that I can see. And you’re right, it’s not surprising that a terrific athlete in one sport could excel in another.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 27, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that uncommon

A lot of very good or even great football players were decent major league baseball prospects. Bo Jackson was a marginal all-star; John Elway was a solid outfield prospect, which helped give him the leverage he needed to force the Colts to trade him; Deion Sanders was an ok outfielder; Ricky Williams washed out of the minors; Sammy Baugh spent a year in the St. Louis Cardinals organization; Brian Jordan had a decent MLB career; Corey Dillon was drafted by the San Diego Padres; Dan Marino was drafted by the Kansas City Royals. In 1990, the Detroit Tigers drafted Kerry Collins, Greg McMurtry, and Rodney Peete in consecutive rounds. Even our own Isaiah Stanback was drafted by the Baltimore Orioles.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

           I think once you are a sportsman, most likely you played more than one sports at any given time through youth. But what I admire about BB is the fact he would (and you can see it) court the good players and he will go out of his way to complement them, he will build a mental bridge of admiration between the players and him, they fall for him so fast. WHY! because they know they win with him, they know they will be in best position to win and increase their value… he is building a machine and so systematic. To get read of an all pro lineman like Seymour at the beginning of the season so much like what he did in 2004 with Malloy, just shows you that the man is in a different planet.
           I am as a fan feel like almost a security blanket for my invested emotions with my beloved team, it rests in a good hand. Really when was the last time you called for BB to leave or be fired ha?

by DeepThreat2u on Oct 27, 2009 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He probably has the most secure tenure of any football official

Mainly because everything he does is for the good of the organisation long-term. How many other Head Coaches would’ve traded out their starting All-Pro DE for a 2011 draft pick with full faith in the backups? How many Head Coaches had guys like Junior Seau on top solely due to the player’s respect in the coach? He has jettisoned the players with character issues – Willie Andrews being the last one I can think of – and builds his team with the intent of creating and maintaining a dynasty, not a short-term Superbowl run. All his personnel decisions – running back by committee, depth in the trenches, cheap bit-part players bought en masse instead of large free agent purchases – all go towards creating depth and building redundancy in order to guarantee consistency. He’s irreplacable because the Pats are so fundamentally a Hoodie-only team.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 27, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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