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Post Game Open Thread: Patriots defeat Ravens, 27-21

I'm exhausted.  That was one hell of a game.  More stats tonight, but discuss away.

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That was good football

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure, when it wasn't sloppy football

That’s not going to win in January. The Pats still have some work to do.

by RSNexile on Oct 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than the Jets game

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we keep improving toward January, we'll be good

Better than peaking in September!

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

take away bradys fumble-6 and its a whole new game.

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

And if Matt Light can block guys who move faster than molasses, that’s also a whole new game. Doesn’t change the fact that this kind of effort won’t win in January.

by RSNexile on Oct 4, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Light can pick up a secondary career

and steal the cleats of any opposition pass-rusher who’s faster than a crippled sloth.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

We managed

to barely not shoot ourselves in the foot.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

no kidding. guess nfl network hates pats.

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

all the analysts on ESPN picked the Ravens to win this morning too

It’s the ghost of Rodney Harrison at work – the Pats play better with when disrespected, whether real or imagined.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how consistently teams do that when playing the Pats

Remarkable coincidence that most teams decide to self-immolate only when playing the Pats.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Belichick's Sith mind trick

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a song

Blinded by Todd Lights,
revved up like a deuce,
another runner to the right….

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Different song, you're looking for this one:

It’s just a jump to the left
And then a step to the right
With your hands on your hips
You bring your knees in tight
But it’s the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
Let’s do the Time Warp again!

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Add that into draft evaluation

Any player who nods his head in time to music never gets near Foxboro. No dancing. Ever. Ever ever.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if you can flop around like that

and still beat a team like the Ravens, good things are in store.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

defense finally got the stop. intense ending!

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The receiver made a stupid mistake

On fourth down, you don’t even worry about making a move. You just catch the ball.

by RSNexile on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

thankfully he diidnt know that

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll hear it a hundred times this week

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, coupla revelations there, eh?

McGowan and Butler and Merriwether. Hell of a team back there.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

flacco took a beating

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We found a little pass rush and a little blitz

All good

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense was very up and down most of the games especially one 3rd down

But i gotta give em credit for stepping up when they needed to

by lololol on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

sure ended with some luck! ggotta love it

by bforce3 on Oct 4, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luck is created

Pressure. Putting it onto young shoulders. Couple of big stops. Etc.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i meant

not better than Morris, but better than himself as a RB

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I never see that step to the left and hop to the right again

it will be too soon.

1) drop the pads
2) run hard
3) hit someone
4) keep driving

Putting it here, so he can clip it out

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Freddy slaps him around the head and shows him how

He’s been there, done that. Maroney could, should, must learn a lot. Or else he’s goooooone.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the thing is,

he said before the game that horizontal running wouldn’t work against the ravens. He was right.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got us guys!

Tough to beat you, ourselves and the refs like we played today. See you in the post season? Hope everyone stays healthy and our LT is okay in your hospital. Take good care of him, please.

aka 'Rexx'

by Bruce Raffel on Oct 4, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Hate to see players go down

We’re praying for him here. Good luck in the season.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't start with the "refs" thing.

But you did spend a lot of the day beating yourselves.

Luckily, you had some company in the opposition.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides we shot ourselves in the foot more than once

and had our share of ummm calls.

You just can’t lip off to the officials and expect sympathy, ever.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

The two calls Ed Reed is mouthing off on — Chris Baker’s catch, which Reed says was out of bounds, and Willis McGahee’s failure to convert on 4th and 1 — were both clearly called correctly. Replays showed Baker did get both feet down in bounds, and McGahee wasn’t even close to a first down.

Further, Harbaugh should have challenged the spot on Baker’s catch if he was going to challenge anything. He wasn’t even close to catching the ball out of bounds, but I don’t think he did get to the first down marker. If they’d challenged the spot instead of the catch, there’s no field goal and the Ravens can tie it up on that last play instead of going for it on fourth down.

by RSNexile on Oct 4, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about darius butler

he made a couple really good plays in the fourth quarter

by sirpinochle on Oct 4, 2009 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey look at you -- unqualified praise.

Watch out — you might be mistaken for a fan.

I kid. I’m really excited to see DB start to emerge. As a UConn fan, it’s a rare opportunity for me (kinda like Ray Rice shudder/twitch for Rutgers fans).

It looks like we’ve got a nice posse of safeties. If discipline continues to improve, we could be on the verge of a very, very good defense. I’m kinda excited.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't say that!

That was heard after Maroney’s first 100 yard game. Cue seasons of frustration. Dooooon’t.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

trent edwards pick-6

this day keeps getting better

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Oct 4, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

And you just know TO is counting

More TD passes to the opposition than to TO? Countdown to blastoff, TO minus 10… 9…

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if that's visible from NE

Large mushroom cloud over the far west horizon.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

wonder what hat and shades ensemble T.O. will wear after the game tonight.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

These

Elton John

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he wears the bowtie too

Don’t want to break up the set.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully he refrains from singing

If he drops notes like he drops footballs…

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good game guys

There is no shame in losing to a quality team. Your Patriots played tough and smart and I don’t know any other owner willing to pay off officials so blatantly like Bob Kraft. There’s a man willing to win no matter what it takes…. I kid, I kid.

In all seriousness, I would rather lose a close game to the likes of Tom Brady, than get blown out by some clown who just faced the Ravens on a bad day. With this game, Bellicheck and company made a statement that the Pats are still the creme de la creme of the league. Now I licked ya’s balls long enough…I hope Rex wins the division from ya.

"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"

by UMBC Oriole fan on Oct 4, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Quality opponent

Good luck on the season.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

now that my heart rhythm is back to normal… good game all around. It’s always a dogfight with you all. Just keep beating the Steelers this season.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

When your D stops the opposition on 4th in the 4th,

you OWE them a first down to close out the game. That was godawful.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree much.

The O sucked in the 4th. Almost bad enough to allow a win to be stolen when it should have been well in hand.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great job guys!

We’ll repay you with a win over the Chargers!

Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever.
Napoleon Bonaparte

Stampede Blue's Resident Steelers Fan

In order to see the rest of my sig, press ALT and F4.

by LV Steelers Fan on Oct 4, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Hye,

you better win. That will get you to 2-2, right on the pace of your last title defense.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saints 17 Jets 3 with 1:45 left in the 1st half.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Marvellous

How long before the NY press tears Sanchez a new one?

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

In tribute to Pennington, it ought to be this week.

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean, "dreamboat"?

(gag, cough, choke)

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't wait

to get at Gangrene at the Razor. Payback will be a bitch!

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally. I hate the Jets.

If there’s a game where I’d love to see us roll up like 50 points, that’s the one.

Unfortunately, I think their defense is seriously legit, notwithstanding what the Saints dished out today.

On the other hand, it’s possible that they’ve already peaked. One can always hope.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jets got it easy

after the Saints. Fish, Bills Raiders, Fish, Jags. Hard to imagine them not beating that lineup until they meet the Pats again.

The Pats have Indy Jets and Saints in a row, the rest of the schedule is cake, barring any surprises.

Looks like the biggest difference in the schedule is we got the ratbirds and they get the surprising Bengals.

The Saints beat them pretty good, which may well make all this just some early season bluster from them. They barelt beat the Titans who are looking bad, and we know the Pats were sorting out a lot when they lost to them.

I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Jets end up 8-8.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pats are going to be the streak-breakers

Someone’s going to have to stop the undefeated Colts & Saints… might as well be New England

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fish, Bills, Raiders and Jags

are all fairly physical teams. The Jets might pick up some injuries along the way; coping with starters being injured might be their biggest issue, because if you take out a couple of their marquee players, they’re basically the Jets of previous (awful) years. I’m not sure they’d cope with a Mayo-like injury, for instance.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point

Most teams couldn’t

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 5, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're in a good place

3-1 with the Broncos, Titans and Bucs coming up.

Could be 6-1 at the end of the month…

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I suspected the Titans would fall off

from last year, maybe go 8-8. But I didn’t expect this bad a start. 6-1 looks like almost a lock.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

In re: the Titans

Man, me either. I can’t explain it — they should be solid.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully

Although I’d be worried that they’ll get angry/frustrated enough to get up and take it all out on some poor team… and that it’ll be the Pats on the receiving end.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense looks better each day

By next year, defense will be one of the best in the league (i know, it’s already good, but add some more maturity to Butler, McGowan, hopefully finally get a look at Crable etc.).

Does anybody get the feeling that this is one year has had one of the best drafts of the Belichick era? Let’s see: Vollmer: franchise tackle, Butler: franchise CB, Julian Edelman, Terrence Nunn, Brandon Tate (that has an ok chance at becoming a future corps by itself), 2 solid DTs in Brace, Pryor, even a franchise long snapper in Ingram.

Also, when did Mike Wright get good? It seems he came out of nowhere in the preseason and has been doing great since.

by A Guy on Oct 4, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Wright's always been pretty good.

But with Jarvis Green and Richard Seymour in front of him, he didn’t get a lot of time. Now, with a 4-man line playing a bigger role for us, we’re seeing more of him.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Oct 4, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he did great what 2 sacks

the Safties are great and Bodden got a INT

by Patsfan4life on Oct 4, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't help but think

with Mayo out, Guyton really got a chance to step up big time and he’s been meeting the challenge better than anyone could have hoped. We have real playmakers this year on defense, something sorely lacking in 2008.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 4, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Chung,

he may be a factor before long.

The Pats signed Wright at a bargain, and are letting him loose now. Smart move.

Warm up the Duck Boats!!!

by BabeParilli on Oct 4, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol, actually forgot

Pats oddly have a glut of good young safeties: Sanders, Mcgowan, Meriweather, Chung. Not a bad problem to have.

by A Guy on Oct 4, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

And you won't be seeing Crable this year

He’s on IR, sadly. So he’ll still be a rookie in terms of experience (albeit the most book-smart rookie around, after two years of studying the playbook).

This year’s draft does look good, although it should be kept in mind that because the Pats jettisoned a bunch of vets, they kept a number of rookies around they might’ve cut in previous years.

Consecutive strong draft classes would be very, very handy. Linebacker heavy for the next one? Heh.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defence

Any thoughts about whether the Pats will revert to the 3-4 when Mayo’s back, or keep the system as-is and stick with the 4-3, perhaps subbing Mayo in for Guyton or finding Guyton something else to do?

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

It'll depend on other injuries

But I’d like to see more 3-4 at that point. Keep Mayo and Guyton in the middle and have Thomas blitz from the outside half the time.

by RSNexile on Oct 4, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hesitate on changing it, in the "if it ain't broke" theory.

Guyton might find himself shifting to OLB, though. He’s definitely quick enough, and he’s bigger than Mayo.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see them keep switching it up

The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 4, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bound to happen anyway

I meant as a base package. Because Bill still uses a base package, occasionally. Haha.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The biggest problem with the 4-3 is that it means the best blitzer of the last couple of years, Thomas, is stuck playing coverage.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 4, 2009 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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