Some initial thoughts on New England Patriots @ Denver Broncos
CBSSports' Pete Prisco, in a blog entry entitled, "McDaniels is the idiot", said:
He's the one who is in his first head job and he's considering making one of the dumbest decisions a coach can make. There are only so many good quarterbacks in this league and he's thinking about trading one away. Why is he getting a free pass here? He's the one who should be getting torched.
So both parties deserve some heat. But there's no doubt McDaniels is the one who deserves the most of it.
It was specifically related to the unceremonious exit of one Jay Cutler to the Chicago Bears, but look how it turned out? Is Josh McDaniels STILL an idiot? And where's the apology or maybe even a simple mea culpa? Not so with media types. Why, on earth, would they admit they're wrong. Need some more? Columnist Ari Horing of bleacherreport.com pens:
Who exactly do you think you are? You need to look in the mirror and realize that you're not Bill Belichick and frankly you’re just a rookie head coach who hasn’t proven a thing yet.
So you were the offensive coordinator for a great Patriots’ offense. So was Charlie Weiss, and I think we all know how he turned out. So you worked under arguably the greatest coach of all time in Bill Belichick. So did Romeo Crennel and Eric Mangini and we know how they turned out.
Superimposing Charlie Weiss' travails onto McDaniels is pure drivel; I'm not sure, on what planet, that logic passes muster. At any rate, hindsight is 20/20, but the amount of Josh McDaniels hate during the Jay Cutler whinefest was just plain ridiculous. McDaniels walked into Denver and started making changes, changes he'd learned from his mentor Bill Belichick. Belichick knows something about creating a winning organization, so it stands to reason, some of this mojo may have rubbed off on McD. We know it certainly didn't rub off on Eric Mangini, but Josh is actually smart.
Moving on... McDaniels started making changes because he wanted to create a culture of winning. Part of that culture was honesty. It backfired with his then silver spooned, first string baby of a quarterback, Jay Cutler. Agent Bus C(r)ook, PO'd Cutler was in the fourth year of a 6 year, $2 million/year contract, decided to stir the pot after seeing the kind of clams Matt Cassel was garnering on the open market. Rumors spread like wildfire that McD had talked trade to get Cassel to Denver and when Cutler heard about it, he threw a hissy fit. McDaniels, being the mature person that he was, basically explained to Jay that as an NFL player under contract, he was the property of the team and could be traded at any time. Apparently Bus C(r)ook didn't inform his toddler client of this little detail.
So, where am I going with this? Josh McDaniels was much maligned for doing what he's paid to do: create a winning organization. Now, to be perfectly honest, I'd like him to crash and burn against the Patriots. I want to see his old mentor absolutely school him on the game of football. Everyone else, he can beat.
All the pundits, all the talking heads are nowhere to be found. Everyone who said Josh McDaniels was in idiot or a moron has not written one...single...word to either apologize or retract what they previously said. Nothing. That's integrity for ya.
Ain't it funny how a 4-0 record shuts up the morons and idiots.
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Eh
The jury’s still out. A tipped pass in another direction, and we could be in very different territory out there.
That said, they’re a ball of fire now — that’s for sure. Heck, I hope they go 15-1.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 6, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no offense but.....
Even without that tipped pass…..Our defensive numbers are still the same. which marks us as a top defense in the league.
Also……even with a loss to cinci, we held them to less points than any other team in the league so far, we destroyed a team that took them to overtime, and we still would have a 3-1 record with a win over Dallas…….so………..
Thanks for the props!!!!!!
I hope we go 13-3 and would be glad of it….of course I actually mean 16-3 but you know what I mean HAHA.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
by DenBronx on Oct 7, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I meant by that
was that that first win was a huge momentum builder, while a loss would have fed the fire.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 7, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are very correct about that.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
by Joe Medina on Oct 7, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
If McDaniels, knowing what a commodity Orton has become, would still be willing to trade for Cassel, either now or hypothetically at the time he shopped Cutler? Likelihood he’ll say in a press conference is nil, but it’d be interesting to know.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 6, 2009 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd do it in a New York minute.
Cassel is twice the QB Orton is. The only barrier (and I guess this is answer) is value-for-money. I love him, but Matty’s overpaid.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 6, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The scuttlebutt...
… is that McDaniels wasn’t really that interested in Cassel, but was just testing the market to determine Cutler’s trade value.
(from a visiting Broncos fan)
by jvill on Oct 7, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points
You won’t find much arguments from us Bronco fans at MHR (other than that we definitely want to stick it to your team this week of course). I will give you a small correction though: Jerome Bettis apologized today on SI.com and a few of the MSM have started retractions (Peter King, John Clayton). Their doom and gloom is being followed by us pretty closely and we’re loving the serving of crow they are getting shoved in their faces right now.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Oct 6, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Crow is a dish best served cold....
Sup Patty fans…. looking forward to this game, should be an eyeful. Cant say “good luck”, exactly, but you know where my heart is.
Recced for excellent content, btw.
I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.
Shaquille O'Neal
by tannji on Oct 6, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton Changed his stance....
But he never apologized. Peter king I think is the next closest to it after Bettis.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
by DenBronx on Oct 7, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CLAYTON IS A TOOL
Bettis is a man. But then again, Bettis actually played the game.
Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.
by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don Banks also apologized
Though it wasn’t as kind and genuine as Bettis’, it did get the job done. It is in his power rankings. His reference to the “told them we’d talk if they beat Dallas,” was in last week’s Power Rankings.
Here it is:
“I voiced my lack of faith in the 3-0 Broncos last week and told them we’d talk if they beat Dallas. And they beat Dallas. So I’m talking. Sorry. There. I said it. And I mean it. That Denver defense deserves no disrespect. And was that Brandon Marshall I saw getting hugged by Josh McDaniels in the middle of the coach’s postgame news conference? My, oh, my, can everything change in a month in the NFL or what?”
by Mhantra on Oct 7, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerome Bettis stood like a man
After reading his apology in SI, I couldn’t even think of holding a grudge. Although, I’m not sure he was ever a major hater like Dukes, Clayton, etc..
by elvisalex on Oct 7, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the good words about our coach
I have had good feelings about him since he was hired.
I don’t understand why so many people in the media and in Bronco land have given McD so little respect. They had him skewered and roasted long before he ever coached a game for the Broncos.
I think he will carry on our tradition of Dan Reeves and Mike Shanahan — long term coaches who developed a tradition of winning, and of getting the Broncos to a few Super Bowls.
I think this weekend’s game will be a good one, and I wish I could be get inside the coaches heads to see just what kind of a chess match it will be.
Good luck, guys. I hope everyone stays healthy and the Pats play well….while of course setting the stage for a 14-2 (not 15-1) year.
by elwayfan on Oct 6, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, I can't believe I read this on a Pats site!
Nothing personal friends. Living in Massachusetts, I know there’s a good majority of Pats fans that still think McDaniels is a good coach, and will do well in Denver. That’s more than anyone could say about Mangini or Weis when they took off.
I appreciate the nice words about McD and what he’s done. It’s funny, with all the garbage spewing around this summer about McDaniels, some of my Pats friends here told me the same thing I felt, which is “Chill out, and just wait. He knows what he’s doing”.
I think people become in love with the notion of a shiny quarterback that can throw 80 yards. They think that’s all that matters. Newsflash for those losers, Big Ben doesn’t have a cannon arm, and although Tom Brady can chuck a few, I don’t think anyone’s going to say he’s got a cannon on his shoulder either. It’s not about how far you can throw the ball, it’s the decisions you make before you throw the ball.
I know there’s going to be a TON of media coverage on this game, but I hope as fans, we can keep it in perspective like the coaches will. Have fun, enjoy the game, because it’s going to be a good one.
TAKE IT!!!
by Joe Medina on Oct 6, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
McD
I will always have respect for Josh. He did well by us and left on excellent terms. The entire organization couldn’t say enough good things about him; that says a lot. It will be interesting to see how the student has progressed away from his teacher. Josh rose through the Patriots organization because he was smart and tireless. He’ll do well.
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by MaPatsFan on Oct 6, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been loving the guys moves!
The Cutler-fiasco raised my eyebrows at first, but it only took a short while before the truth came out. “Outside the Lines” put some great closure out there for me, and I couldn’t be have been happier with the Cutler trade (before preseason even started btw). McDaniels is classy, direct, knows how important the basics are (good tackling, check downs, running north and south, etc.) and has shown some great ingenuity and there is only more yet to come.
This will be an exciting game, to say the very least. I won’t wish you fella’s luck… but may the best team win. (Unless of course that team is the Patriots, lol.) I love watching Brady, but not when he’s playing us. We’ll see you guys in the post-season!
ORANGE CRUSH! ... need I say more?
by USMCWall on Oct 7, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I really like is
that McDaniels has an unashamed respect for the Patriots and Bill Bellichek.
I think Bill is the standard and Josh knows that.
Both are brilliant at what they do and neither will let someone outside the organization influence their decisions especially sportswriters.
Regardless of who wins Sunday, (obviously Pats fans want the Pats and Broncos fans the Broncos) the NFL will see some great coaching in all aspects of the game. This game should be an example of NFL football at its highest.
I do have one question for the NE fans.
How are your special teams doing this year?
I know our old ST coach is here and I am hoping he is doing well.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you about Josh being unashamed to
show his respect and admiration of Coach Bellichek. McDaniels has to be aware of those who make fun of the hoody, call the Broncos the Denver Patriots, and say he copies and wants to be like Bill.
It takes brass-balls to sort of just say, “Ya, so?”. And to be unashamed to show his true admiration. As for the hoody, well, I think that’s just personal preference and wayy too much is made from it.
by elvisalex on Oct 7, 2009 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mixed bag, really
There’ve been some good flashes – a few fumbles forced in opposition kick returns, one of which won the game against the Bills, good field goal kicking, and the opening kickoff of the season was returned for 50 yards – but some poor aspects, in particular giving up too many yards on kick and punt returns, and some aimless punting. Those might be easy to correct, but then again, they might not.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 7, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, yeah, I chuckled at his press conference
He loves Bellichek. Almost expected Bellichek to run out to the pulpit to hug McD.
BMarsh style.
by Mhantra on Oct 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you really think Big Bill is a hugger???
We all know McD is a sensi (scrubs reference), but is Bill???? I guess we’ll find out sunday.
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by kentuckybronco on Oct 7, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Jamarcus Russell can throw the ball 80 yards
Maybe part of it is the team (and I use the word loosely) around him, but he’s looking like the second coming of Ryan Leaf.
McDaniels will succeed as a coach because he understands that a winning team is more than the sum of its parts. Like Belichick, he’s going to end up being a coach who gets his players to overachieve as long as they buy into the team concept. Under a coach like that, Kyle Orton is more valuable than Jay Cutler, especially when you can get a couple of first rounders along with Orton in the trade.
Cutler’s going to end up regretting going to Chicago. He may be a Pro Bowler now, but McDaniels would have turned him into a Hall of Famer.
by RSNexile on Oct 6, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
funny you mention Ryan Leaf
I thought the same thing. Unfortunately, I was too young to appreciate the full failure that he was, but watching this bust-a-thon in Oakland from afar will do.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
by Joe Medina on Oct 7, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some MSM guy opined that...
….it’s unfair to Ryan Leaf to compare JaMarcus Russell to him.
Wrote Great in the sand a thousand times. Forgot about dying and went on home.
by bradley on Oct 7, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
News Flash!
JaMarcus Russel was arrested in Canada for smuggling hamburgers across the border. Updates to come!
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 7, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The press always screws these stories up
He was apprehended at a Krispy Kreme ordering 6 of everything
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was trying to sneak Krispy Kremes to Canada to make donut burgers?????
idk, either way, the dude has got a problem………
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by kentuckybronco on Oct 7, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL to all of you. however...
… I would mainline Krispy Kreme if I could…
by topnation on Oct 7, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
That’s cold. Real cold.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 7, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
This seems to be the CLASSIEST set of Pats fans ever…… I would never expect an article like this from a rival team. Thanks as well!!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
by DenBronx on Oct 7, 2009 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points
Rec’d your comment.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Oct 7, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McDaniels doesn't need any of the MSM offering a slimy hand to pull him out of the hole they threw him in
I can understand Broncos fans being antsy with the upheaval and the uncertainty of their team in flux, but the media did nothing but keep the brew boiling. Pats fans have been there too, believe me. McDaniels is already tested by that fire. He stood firm, blocked out the media firestorm and “did his job.” He’s been blessed to have the ownership behind him so far too – unlike Belichick in his Cleveland days.
Good point noticing that the media hasn’t been quick to admit they might have been a little quick in their negative assessment of McDaniels. And don’t expect it either. In fact, the best that’s been said recently is what a surprise it’s been that they’re undefeated, or that they had better enjoy it now because of the tough games still ahead on their schedule. The Broncos will be better for it as a team if the media keeps them underdogs, especially in spite of their record. Nothing like a good disrespecting to cement a team together.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 6, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're reserving their quota of compliments
for you-know-who. Gag.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 6, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-0 does not a season make:
While the Broncos are sitting pretty right now; I’d hold off on the playoff tickets.
Congrats on an excellent defensive effort. I’d just like to point out that things have a way of evening out over the course of an NFL season. Lucky bounces and friendly scheduling only last so long. The emaculate deflection and wins against Oakland and Cleveland are not exactly steller accomplishments. Lets see how they do the next four games before absolving Mc daniels, “idiot label.” Anybody that thinks Kyle Orton and Jay Cutler inhabit the same universe of QB skills can take hold of that idiot lable.
by zabster on Oct 6, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, maybe not
1) The Broncos are in a weak division and already have a two game lead. They’ve already beaten a surprisingly good Bengals team and a Cowboys team widely expected to make the playoffs, but could easily end up losing their next four games. If they do, people like you will claim their start was a result of a soft schedule, but they’ll still probably be in first place or just a game back at that point with a favorable second-half schedule.
2) 4-0 teams rarely miss the playoffs, and Josh McDaniels isn’t Dick Jauron.
3) Jay Cutler puts up big numbers, but he hasn’t proven he can win. Kyle Orton puts up modest numbers, but he wins his starts. If you’re a coach with a strong, proven system, you pick the winner plus two first round draft picks over the whiny, flashy, prima donna loser every time.
4) If you can’t spell immaculate, stellar, and label, and you don’t realize that the guy’s name is McDaniels (as opposed to “Mc daniels” — he’s not a cross between e.e. cummings and a Happy Meal), you probably shouldn’t be calling anyone an idiot.
by RSNexile on Oct 6, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
i ate my fries
one by one
the burger, also
the toy
was no surprise
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 6, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Blues. Cardinals. Broncos. Rockies (when not playing St. Louis!).
Drinkin' the orange kool-aid since the day McDaniels was hired.
Go DU hockey! Go Mammoth!
by HockeyHippie on Oct 7, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's NOT the bastard child of a Happy Meal, e.e. cummings and a boozy weekend in Prague?
And here I was, expecting him to trade out Ronald McDonald to Burger King in exchange for 2010 draft picks… Woe is me, shattered childhood dreams.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 7, 2009 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Burger King
was the bastard child of Ronald McDonald and Wendy. The scandal was in all the English papers.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my. A hamburger related scandal that didn’t involve Fergie. Titter titter.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 7, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or JaMarcus.
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 7, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JaMarcus wants to earn his massive pay
So he’s wanting to play defence, too. As a DT.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 7, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great comments
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Touche!
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Oct 7, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dictionary must get heavy RS:
Yes, it was sloppy not to check my spelling. I guess I’ve fallen victim to MS spell check.
That being said, a few misspelled words does not make one an idiot. Painting yourself into a corner is the purest definition of stupidity. Ah, like McDaniels did in the Jay Cutler situation. I don’t care how it looks now, but I assure you at some point everyone in Denver will see that as a poor decision. (Idiot – A foolish, ot stupid person) “Hey I think I’ll get rid of a 25 year old quarterback coming off a pro bowl season; because he didn’t return a phone call.” HELLO?
by zabster on Oct 8, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A phone call to the owner
Diss the coach all your want, but the owner pays the bills. Ignoring him is what shipped Cutler out.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1mm
Zab, say what you want, but I don’t forsee Denver EVER crying in our milk about Cutler being gone. Sure, maybe he would have helped, but its JUST AS LIKELY that he would have hindered the team. and I do mean TEAM.
The Broncos are doing what they are doing, because HCMcD has instilled in them a sense of TEAM. There is no more screaming at a WR over a missed pass….(from the QB at least). there is no more pouting. there is no more crying. When we are behind, as we showed last week, we TRY HARDER!!!! That alone….The unity..the Brotherhood, the TEAM-ness of it all, is worth a hundred Cutlers.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
by DenBronx on Oct 8, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He basically called his boss a liar in public
“What? I didn’t get a phone call. I don’t care if the owner of my team has gone on the public record in the national press to say he called me. I didn’t get it. No, you go to hell…”
Perhaps you wouldn’t want to bet your franchise’s future on a guy who can’t tell the truth, admit his mistakes, or show even the slightest courtesy to the guy who pays his bills.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the deal-breaker right there
Years ago, before caller ID and the ease of keeping track of who called who, Cutler might have gotten away with saying the owner never called him and turned it into a he-said, he-said. Now it’s easy to prove who was lying and who was willing to throw who under the bus just to win in the court of public opinion. At least in the short term anyway.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if Cutler didn't receive Pat Bowlen's calls...
….
even giving Cutler the benefit of the doubt on that, what did the guy do when he heard that Mr. Bowlen had been calling him? Did he get on the phone and call Bowlen? No, he just got pissy in public. Total nerd.
Wrote Great in the sand a thousand times. Forgot about dying and went on home.
by bradley on Oct 11, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, you sound like the Dallas fans last week
We just held a funeral for one of them.
He choked on his crow.
by Mhantra on Oct 7, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even worse
McDaniels is still not getting credit. Here in Denver the talk is all about how great a job Nolan has done. In fact they don’t even give credit to McDaniels for hiring him.
by D-fence on Oct 7, 2009 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are 100% correct
I like the fact that Bill taught Josh to stick to the plan, regardless of the criticism. It will be interesting to see what these two guys throw at each other this week.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh?
Who’s talking playoffs?
McDaniels himself said 4-0 doesn’t win you anything but it is not too early to say that the MSM was wrong about this team. That much is already clear. Where we go from here is anybody’s guess but it is obvious that the Broncos are better – and better prepared - than anybody thought.
Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.
by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PLAYOFFS??? We're talking about playoffs???? Playoffs??? Really?? Playoffs?? I just hope we can win a game.........
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by kentuckybronco on Oct 7, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they won their games
one by one
the playoffs, also
the feat
a big surprise
by phondonkey on Oct 6, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
fine creation this
a game a poem
the ending day
feelings rise
prose holds
by Mhantra on Oct 7, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prisco is fail.
Even bigger one than Borges, as the latter can at least churn out one quality piece once in a while.
Obviously I hope the Pats don’t become the latest victims to the Bronco freight train. But should they lose, I wouldn’t mind too much, as it gives Denver leverage to shut Prisco the hell up.
Beer is good! And stuff!
by R_Adragna on Oct 7, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
Thanks for the comments and the insight. You guys are class fans. I’m thrilled to have McDaniels running our team. His coaching hires, FA acquisitions, practice regimen, and straightforwardness have sold me completely.
But I do have one question. Who is this “Jay” everyone keeps talking about? =)
Conversation nonstarters: hoping McDaniels fails, comparing Bears to Broncos, Cutler to Orton, apples to oranges, and casual drinkers to Raiders fans.
by broncosmontana on Oct 7, 2009 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice post MaPatsFan
It is good someone, other than us Bronco fans, sees what is really going on. The fact that the media jump all over McD because he doesn’t make decisions that they like is just insane. However I am not surprised one bit. Changes needed to be made and despite all the stats that Cutler had we were still a .500 team that had trouble scoring. McD has changed a lot in Denver and he has brought in a lot of good coaches starting with Mike Nolan and players that fit his system.
Once again thanks for the nice comments and from what I have seen from McD, I can see why you guys liked him so much. You guys are truly classy fans. Oh and rec’d as well.
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by weazel on Oct 7, 2009 2:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
As a Broncos fan, this offseason was frustrating: not because of the changes, but because those outside the bubble where so hellbent on shouting their ignorant drivel from the rooftops. As a fan of sportsmanship, I’ve really enjoy the kind words exchanged between McDaniels and Belichick through the media so far this week. I’ve always been impressed by the Patriots and look forward to a hard-fought game. Good luck to you guys this weekend, just better luck to us!
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Oct 7, 2009 2:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm no math major
But those wins, (weak division or whatever it doesn’t matter), plus the outside ignorant drivel, plus a continued lack of respect (perceived and real) all add up a stronger “team”.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 7, 2009 6:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
People overlook things like chemistry in sports and the whole “nobody believes in us” thing can go a long way for a team. Heck, look at the rise of the Pats dynasty for a prime example!
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Oct 7, 2009 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know Josh learned the "us against the world"
strategy Bill used for a couple of Super Bowls
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you sure brian dawkins didn't teach him that???
I guess it’s another chicken or the egg debate………
Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away
by kentuckybronco on Oct 7, 2009 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Win or lose this weekend
Both teams will end up stronger.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
by BroncTastic on Oct 7, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well written Post, MaPats Fan
However, to the extent that you are saying that McDaniels made the decision to trade Cutler, I disagree. Many if not most of us at MHR believe that it was Broncos’ owner Pat Bowlen that made that decision, after he stated publicly that Cutler had not returned his phone calls, and then Cutler stated that he had not received any phone calls.
You just don’t call Pat Bowlen a liar and remain with the Broncos.
I know that the MSM thinks that it was McDaniels and Xanders that made the trade, but they are a bunch of lazy wallowers. McDaniels and Xanders certainly did it, and did it well, I think, but only after Mr. Bowlen said to get rid of the guy.
Wrote Great in the sand a thousand times. Forgot about dying and went on home.
by bradley on Oct 7, 2009 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool
Thanks for the clarification. Appreciated.
Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit
by MaPatsFan on Oct 7, 2009 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my take as well
Get as pissy as you want with the coach, but you’ve got to return the calls of the guy who signs the checks.
Here Kraft’s nickname is LRC, for Lower Right Corner (where his signature is).
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the vote of confidence in our coach...a rare commodity until lately. lol
As for this weeks game, I think we all know how the Patriots fare against Denver….especially in Denver. We’re talking going back 50 years. Vertical Striped socks are back baby! lmao Beware of mustard yellow and poop colored brown, final score. Broncos 13, Patriots 9. ;-)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
by Tim Lynch on Oct 7, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
old school game with an old school score. I like it.
Are we moving the posts up??? I think we should put the posts on the goalline for this game. That would be SWEET!!!!!!!!
Bringing Bronco love from 1,112 miles away
by kentuckybronco on Oct 7, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerome Bettis must read your posts...
He offers an apology for what he wrote in the pre-seasonr:
More apologies: To Josh McDaniels. Before the Broncos played even one game the jury was out on that guy: He was cocky, he was brash, he was young, he looked like a high school kid, and he’d made some boneheaded decisions that broke up a good team. Being a head coach was a little bit over this guy’s head.
After Denver defeated Dallas, we have to reassess those decisions: letting Cutler go; the way he handled Brandon Marshall; bringing in Mike Nolan to lead the defense. We have to look at the people he surrounded himself with — those were some solid choices. He took on his biggest challenge yet with Dallas, and it was a defining moment for this coach. He validated all of those choices. We were all wrong.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 7, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow Bettis actually wrote that?
I am amazed. I won’t hold my breath on John Clayton ponying up though!
Good luck this week Pats fans. I love our new defense but I hear you guys have a pretty good QB this year that will be a test ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Oct 7, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what the media or anyone else says.
Just play your game, focus on what you can control, and watch the wins come.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah... lose a few in a row
and he’ll be apologizing for his earlier apology and writing about how he got it right in the first place.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 7, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Prisco, in his latest power poll
has actually said the words, “Josh McDaniels, I owe you an apology.” He’s still not sold on us completely, but I think that a rational person can easily think that.
Just to give (some) credit where it should go.
"3rd and 6, Elway shotgun... Elway, scrambling, looking, running-- DIVING!!!-- inside the 5 yard line for a first down! Is he only 37?! How important is this football game? How bad does John Elway want to win this football game? Where you see the quarterbacks go down: Not Elway!"
by Sharpe as a Tack on Oct 7, 2009 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know what I am looking forward to...
As Pats fans, I am sure you guys know that LOTS of people hate the Patriots – because they almost always win. People love a winner until they do it for a few years in a row and then for some reason the backlash begins.
That’s what I want. I want people to start hating our Broncos because they win and they do it consistently. When people hate you simply because you’re successful…if that’s all they’ve got…that’s when you KNOW you’ve made it.
Talk to me in a couple of years. I’ll let you know. LOL
Don't argue with fools. It's how they reproduce.
by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2009 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Titanic was easier to turn
then public opinion on something like that. Everyone loves an underdog, but let that underdog collect a couple of championships and the team wins itself right out of that ‘beloved’ category straight into the realm of the hated.
So fans finally get the winning team they’ve always dreamed of and can’t understand why the rest of football nation outside their fair city is out to get them and hates their guts.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 7, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait -- people hate the Patriots?
I’m shocked, just shocked.
Oh well. I’m sure everyone loves Tom Brady, anyway…
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 7, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the saga of
Your holding me down, because you always win. If you quit winning I’d have my day.
Well if you beat me, you’d have you’re day too. Try that.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 7, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Classy board you guys have here
Good luck this season, but not too much against our Broncos.
Maybe I should rethink that. I DO have Brady and Moss on my fantasy football team…
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
by BroncTastic on Oct 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fantasy Football...
the great equalizer
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 7, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes!
As a Bronco fan, I have rooted for myself to lose my fantasy that week, especially if it means that my fantasy player gets blanked for the week (a QB playing against Denver is a classic example).
It isn’t even bittersweet. I am thrilled to lose so the Broncos can win!
by Mhantra on Oct 7, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
from milehighreport - a broncos fan
Nice Post – Love that your fans seemed well informed
by a16416 on Oct 7, 2009 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't agree more. Hats off to your fans and website.
My image is the Circa 1960-’61 Broncos home uniform sock. Some what folk lore to me ... but referred to as the clown sock by my Dad.
by YellowStoneBronco on Oct 7, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MHR bronc fan here-
I am impressed with your site and insights….reminds me of us! Hey, thanks for the great training you gave our guy, and good luck all through the regular season (except, of course, Sunday). I left the post-season wishes open….just in case! Again, thanks for the classy cross-chat.
by idahobronc on Oct 8, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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