New England Patriots Links 10/08/09 - Pats, Broncos Mutual Admiration Society Continues
by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 9:31 AM EDT
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Champ Bailey talks about Randy Moss.
Yeah, I mean, I've always said since I played him for the first time, he's one of the best I've ever seen, even to this day. He's in his twelfth season, but that guy, he plays like he's 25 years old again and he's so dangerous. He has that deceptive speed. You know he's fast, but then he doesn't run fast, and then all of a sudden he's top speed. He's just a dangerous guy. I look forward to that match-up because if you can come out playing well against him, you know you're doing good things.
He never lolly gags. See, that's the thing, people don't really understand the game. I mean he blocks, he does all those little things. I wouldn't say he's the greatest blocker, but he does it effectively. When he's jogging, he's just really setting you up for the next time he jogs and then he takes off running past you. He's one of those guys; he loves to find ways to set you up.
Josh McDaniels talks about how to combat all the inside knowledge and familiarity with each other's systems.
I think we both change up what we do on a weekly basis. We don't stay the same. They're watching film of us and they know what we're running and we're watching film of them and we know a lot of things they're running. And yet, we're going to see some things on Sunday that may be a little different and we've never seen before. But I think, ultimately, it's going to come down to playing and whose players play better. We're going to try to prepare as hard as we can for what we know they are capable of doing and how they try to win. And, I think they're going to do the same thing and we'll see whose team can play that much better on Sunday.
Tom Brady discusses going into a game when somebody on the other sideline knows a lot about you.
I think there are definitely changes you have to make. We made a bunch with Eric. We made a bunch, even going into the Jets game this year with Kevin [O'Connell] being over there. Obviously, with Josh, he knows it better than anybody. And we know them. I think in the end it comes down to how you execute, it really does. They may have information, we have information. When you're out there, what you see is what you see, and that's what you've got to react to no matter what they say in the meeting before the game.
You take the information; you gather it from a lot of different sources. Then, you've got to go out and you've got to make the plays.
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino Tom Brady, Mike Wright, and Wes Welker discuss New England's familiarity with the Broncos head coach and the Denver elements. Pus, news and notes from the Patriots locker room and Wednesday's practice.
- Patriots Wednesday Pressers: Bill Belichick (22 min.), Tom Brady (13.13 min.) Plus Transcripts.
- Broncos Wednesday Conference Calls: Josh McDaniels (13.56 min.), Champ Bailey (9.18 min.) Plus Transcripts.
- Patriots Today: Battling Josh McDaniels and the Broncos. (10.43 min. video)
- Patriots-Broncos Wednesday Injury Report and practice participation.
LOCAL LINKS
- Chris Gasper notes Laurence Maroney knows the fans expect more from him and he says he'll deliver. With Fred Taylor missing practice with an ankle injury, Maroney will need to step up.
- Chris Gasper reports Tom Brady is unapologetic about the roughing calls. He said they were fortunate to get a few go their way on Sunday, but they went against them in the Jets game. It all evens out.
- Michael Vega says Jerod Mayo would welcome Junior Seau's presence; Seau is expected to sign next week.
- Ian Rapoport reports on Josh McDaniels rise through the ranks as seen and noted by Nick Saban.
- Karen Guregian notes Champ Bailey has the utmost respect for Randy Moss, Tom Brady.
- Michael Whitmer Patriots Notebook: McDaniels and Belichick both mum on game-week communication between them; Champ Bailey praises Randy Moss; ex-Steeler LB Bruce Davis was signed to the practice squad; injury updates.
- Mike Reiss breaks down the Patriots penalties so far this year.
- Mike Reiss looks at the game-ball winners from the Patriots' 27-21 victory over the Ravens.
- Ian Rapoport introduces us to new practice squad member, ex-Steeler edge-rusher Bruce Davis.
- Ian Rapoport Patriots Notebook: Gino Cappelletti is pleased that the NFL is recognizing the AFL in the manner it deserves. Cappelletti will be an honorary captain for this Sunday's legacy game in Denver.
- Chad Finn reports ESPN Radio and WEEI joined forces yesterday, announcing an affiliation agreement that will result in ESPN’s national programming airing on WEEI's sports radio station’s AM signal. This also means Adam Schefter will return to his weekly morining call-in to the Dennis & Callahan show.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Jim Trotter (SI) McDaniels takes Belichick's lessons into Sunday showdown with Pats. Terrific read.
- John Clayton (ESPN) Elite QB play is good business for NFL.
- Official Review Week 4 (NFL Network) Mike Pereira explains why the Ravens were penalized for roughing Tom Brady. Pereira supports all three calls and says "it's ludicrous" to think that Brady only got the call because he is Tom Brady and that lobbied for it.
- Sporting News ranks the Best Sports Cities. Boston is number 3, behind Pittsburgh and Philadelphia.
- Outside The Huddle (SI) In the second of a series of assignments, SI's photographers recently focused on Tom Brady, who's back on the field after missing 15 games a year ago.
- Don Banks (S) Braylon Edwards trade gives Jets the No. 1 receiver they lacked.
- Ultimate Audio (NFL.com) Ravens vs. Patriots Sights and sounds of the game. (6.08 min.video)
VIEW FROM DENVER
- Lindsey H. Jones (Denver Post) Eye on ... The Patriots: Who's hot, who's not, key stats etc...
- Dave Krieger (Denver Post) Broncos coach McDaniels can go where no Belichick protege has gone before.
- Gray Caldwell (DenverBroncos.com) On to the next: Patriots.
- DenverBroncos.com Wednesday Press Conference Transcripts: Head coach Josh McDaniels, QB Kyle Orton and S Brian Dawkins.
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Nice viewpoint Champ
and he saw alot of Randy when Moss was in Jokeland.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I fan posted the Trotter article
Loved it.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree that was a terrific article
It’s wrong that most of the media are content to perpetuate the myth of “Belichick the stone-hearted,” especially by tacking on the untrue, unfair and unnecessary adjectives such as “troll” and “evil.” It’s a lazy, deceitful and just plain mean brand of journalism.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how much time Belichick spent churning out 5 pages.
Was it one-finger at a time? For the people he cares about, he really cares. For the others, who cares?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe when Bill retires, he can turn it into a book.
How I did it by Bill Belichick
1) Focused on stuff that mattered
2) Ignored everything else
The editors can flesh it out and turn it into 200 pages or so.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I can imagine the author-editor correspondence
Do your job!
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 5 most valuable pieces of paper in the NFL today.
I bet there are guys who’d trade their wedding tackle for peek at those pages.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 8, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I hate to say it, Wes is wrong.
The altitude makes a big difference from my experience living just outside of Denver. Not just walking around, but running and physical exertion take a toll. The air is also quite a but drier, so hydration is a must. The other thing is your body compensates over time, so the Broncos are acclimated, and the Pats aren’t. Mile high isn’t as bad as the 14k’s they have, but here is some quick web searching:
Foxboro elevation 157ft (47.9m), Denver is officially listed as 5281ft (1609.6m).
That is a mean air pressure change from 756 mmHg (29.8 inHg) (99% of oxygen at sea level)
to 633 mmHg (24.9 in Hg) (83% of Oxygen at sea level).
That is a 16% reduction in Oxygen content in every breath from what they’re used to in Foxboro.
Expect alot of subbing and use of oxygen on the sidelines to stay competitive. Wes, I’m sorry. Be well.
Dr. Peter Venkman, “Back off, man. I’m a scientist.”
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course
This article disagrees. So Wes may actually be right.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Altitude just matters...
… when you need some post-game excuses.
But I really, really hope we won’t need it.
by kleitonsc on Oct 8, 2009 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might see more rotation of the older guys than you'd expect normally
The altitude thing might put even more of a premium on running-back-by-committee, especially if Taylor also happens to be dinged up. Morris, Faulk, Taylor are all 30+, which means it’s just that little bit harder to suck down the oxygen. Otherwise I wouldn’t expect too much difference, unless a guy like Springs has to chase down a bomb or two in a row.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does Benny get activated?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd imagine it depends on Taylor's level of participation
He’s been the most effective rusher, and Morris and Faulk have come up on a couple of big plays each as well. BenJarvus might be activated if Taylor’s less than 100% and there’s no faith in Maroney to shoulder a feature-back load.
It might also depend on Welker’s health – if Welker isn’t up to returning punts, Faulk probably takes those snaps, which means some of Faulk’s RB carries get passed onto Morris and Maroney… and so on down the line. At some point, they might need that extra RB to make up the numbers of snaps.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taylor is out
He will have ankle surgery, but it isn’t expected to be season-ending. I just saw it on ESPN.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Oct 8, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah, I just saw the Mike Reiss thing
BenJarvus is in, in that case. I guess he gets handed all those hard-nosed runs up the gut, especially if they still like the idea of Morris being a FB/ occasional WR.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Physiologically, it has an effect
But if you’re in good enough shape, that shouldn’t matter. I suspect Welker and most of the other players are in good enough shape for it not to matter. The guys for whom it’s most likely to matter are the 300 pounders.
by RSNexile on Oct 8, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I considered that
and I would’ve said that the D-line would rotate in and out regularly, but this season they’ve been doing that anyway. NE’s been playing a lot of sub-package and different looks on the D-line, so I can’t really say they’ll be doing it any more this week than any other.
As for the O-line, we could well see more rotation there, but even then Hoodie’s done a fair job of keeping his guys fresh, and Brady hasn’t been knocked around a lot in the last few weeks, so it seems the O-line is healthy and fit. If anything changes, Vollmer might get more of a run, if only to help shut down a decent Broncos pass-rush.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has a bigger effect with hurry up offenses.
Less time between runs
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: roughing the passer calls and fines
It looks like Wright got fined $5K for his penalty, whereas Ngata — who did the same thing — didn’t, and neither did Suggs after trying to take out Brady’s knees.
I don’t think any of us like the way the rules are written, but Wright getting fined is crap, especially when the Ravens get off. I guess Harbaugh and his bunch of whiny little babies accomplished something by complaining so much.
by RSNexile on Oct 8, 2009 2:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fines
A guy who isn’t a household name, who played pretty well and won a big game is less inclined to complain to the press about shelling out $5k than long-term stars who already feel like they’re being picked on. Not sure I like the distinction being made, but it does seem more than a little pragmatic in respect of the league’s PR.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you're saying, but I have to disagree.
Not because our guy got dinged and theirs didn’t. Goodell has established himself as a law-and-order disciplinarian type. If he wants to make that stick and maintain credibility, then he has to show consistency. Unless the league office can articulate some obvious difference between what Ngata did and what Wright did, then it should be both or neither.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 8, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I don't like it at all
but I think it’s Goodell being pragamatic about who he can and can’t fine. It sucks for Wright to get fined when the others aren’t for the same crime, but it’s showing that a) the fines work, or that the league takes it seriously, whatever, and b) that the league isn’t actually biased against the Ravens. Otherwise, the distinction seems arbitrary, which is probably worse than pragmatism.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no no no. Where's your outrage?
THIS IS A FRIGGIN CONSPIRACY! THE LEAGUE LOVES THE RAVENS — THIS IS BULLSH*T! THEY DIDN’T GET FINED FOR COMPLAINING! THEN, THEY DID’T GET FINED FOR DOING THE EXACT SAME THING! IT’S HARD ENOUGH TO WIN THE GAME WITHOUT HAVE TO BEAT THE RAVENS AND THE REFS! NOW THE LEAGUE OFFICE IS IN ON THE TAKE! I CALL BULLH*T. PS: FLACCO IS A P*SSY.
/ravens fan
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Oct 8, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The caps were a nice touch
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I particularly liked the bold emphasis on certain phrases
Now all we need is a font for “spirit fingers” and we’re all set.
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by MaPatsFan on Oct 8, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should I be worried that the sum of my contributions to the site
would be encapsulated in the three words “spirit fingers font”?
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately
The SB Nation folks have coded most of the font names to the same fonts, and < code > is already for sarcasm….
code - Defines computer code text
samp – Defines sample computer code
kbd – Defines keyboard text
em – Renders as emphasized text
dfn – Defines a definition term
var – Defines a variable part of a text
cite – Defines a citation
strong – Renders as strong emphasized text
strike – Defines a strike-thru
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have them fix that MPF!
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 8, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's the key difference:
I’m not claiming it’s a conspiracy. It’s just bull. But I think Comedic.Sans is correct — Wright is getting dinged because no one outside of New England knows who he is.
Ultimately, if anyone should be fined, it’s Suggs because he was clearly going after the QB’s knees. I’m not convinced he really deserves a fine for that play, though, and neither Ngata nor Wright should be fined for their infractions, though they both deserved to be flagged under the rules. But if Wright draws a fine, it’s just plain bull that Ngata doesn’t get one too.
by RSNexile on Oct 8, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, I was hoping that I was wrong
It just seemed like Suggs had proofed himself against being fined. He outright declared the likelihood that he’d be fined for playing the game the way he does, as a premier pass-rusher that hits QBs a lot. He then declared that any fine he received is just proof that the league values the safety of QBs more than the ability of pass-rushers to play the game properly. So when he inevitably drew flags and the risk of a fine, he put the league in a difficult position. They could fine him and hand him evidence that the league is indeed geared to put QBs above everyone else, or they could hold off on him and avoid controversy. They chose the latter course, and avoided a smidgen of controversy they might have otherwise have attracted.
All the fine of Wright did was show that if Suggs hadn’t circumvented the normal process, he would probably have been fined. The league is showing it can be held to ransom by players pointing out the nonsensical application of an unpopular rule.
by Comedic.Sans on Oct 8, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OUCH
Patriots RB Fred Taylor to Have Ankle Surgery
New England Patriots running back Fred Taylor’s injured right ankle will require surgery, reports ESPNBoston’s Mike Reiss.
Taylor, the Patriots’ leading rusher with 201 yards, injured his ankle on his final carry in last Sunday’s 27-21 win over the Baltimore Ravens.
No time-line for Taylor’s return was provided, though Reiss’ report states that Taylor is not expected to miss the rest of the season. With Taylor out, second-year running back BenJarvus Green-Ellis could be active on Sunday against the Denver Broncos.
by DirtyDog on Oct 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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