Post Game Thread: Colts defeat Patriots, 35-34
You can't give Peyton Manning the ball. You need to keep it out of his hands. And he proved that. Whether or not Kevin Faulk had the first down will be discussed ad infinitum. Whether or not Belichick should've gone for it on 4 and 2 will be questioned. Discuss.
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agreed.
as much as I don’t want to validate the trolls in the other thread, he really looks like an arrogant ass for that. The loss is all on him.
by ElephantEyelash on Nov 15, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
I pay 2.5 grand for season tickets
And get shit like that from Belichick?
I want my fucking money back.
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Waaa.
Settle down, spazzy. Belichick has more wins than anyone. Teams lose. Grow up.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 15, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Says the dude who doesn't spend a shitload of their money on season tickets
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Again. Waaa.
You somehow see the contractual term on your ticket stub that says you’re guaranteed 19 wins a season? No? Waa.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 15, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
When did I say 19 wins you tard?
I said as a guy who invests a lot of money in the team I deserve better fucking decisions then that bullshit.
Punt the fucking ball like a normal fucking football team.
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Right, that makes a *lot* of sense.
Punt the ball, given Manning’s two-minute drill 70 yards to eat up, watch him churn the yardage over like he’d been doing all fourth-quarter, and you’d still be crying about the money you paid to watch home games.
I didn’t realise paying for seats in a stadium in Foxboro gives you special privileges for complaining about decisions that the Pats Head Coach makes in Indiana. That must be amazing. You’re not investing in the team, you’re getting rights to sit down in a stadium a dozen times a season. Bob Kraft might have a right to complain about Belichick; you don’t. You might be allowed to complain if your seat is sticky or something, but that’s it.
Finally. “Punt the ball like a normal fucking football team.” Normal teams don’t get to 4 Superbowls in a decade. Normal teams don’t win 3 Superbowls in a decade. When you’ve got more Superbowl rings for coaching than Bill Belichick, then I’ll say you know better than he does. Otherwise, save your whinging for whatever blog you’re pimping off in your signature. I certainly won’t be reading it – crying about your ticket prices for home games when the Pats lose away is rather insipid.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
A "normal" team plays it safe
and follows John Madden’s advice to “takes a knee” to play for OT
Keep the faith!
I hope we get them back in the playoffs
at least we know how potent the office can be right now and the defense can stop good offenses for most of the game. And if it wasn’t for that one dumb ass decision we might have pulled away with a win.
From an outsider
I view that decision as quite arrogant by Belicheck. Like he was trying to make a statement or something. That lessens my respect for BB as a division rival.
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He wanted to keep the ball out of Manning's hands
I can’t really blame him for the sentiment. It’s the only way to win in the last 2 minutes – keep the ball out of Manning’s hands. Hell, that was literally the gameplan as suggested by the pre-game blog.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 15, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
i don;t think it was arrogant
he just over thought it…2 mins for peyton manning is always bad no matter where u are on the field. and with the offense the pats have u’d think they coulda gotten it. But wasting 2 timeouts was dumb
I don't think it was a statement
I think he weighed up Peyton Manning against our defense, and the likelihood that they couldnt get two yards in two plays.
Brady is back, though.
We had no Banta-Cain, no Green, no Warren.
BB didn’t have confidence that the D could stop Manning – and he was right. sure makes that Maroney fumble at the goal line a bit more important.
Keep the faith!
What;s Maroney's deal this year?
He’s bad, he’s good, he’s bad, he’s good, he’s fumblin…
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So you give him a shorter field to beat u....
still make no sense.
if u convert, which is pretty good odds with this def and u win
u punt the odds of manning beating u is still damn good. the ball was spotted just an inch short…manning with 2 mins is bad no matter where u r.
yeah.... this was more a lack of confidence in the D
and confidence that Faulk could make the 2 yards
Keep the faith!
the call wasn't bad, that's bullshit
the playcall was bad.
If you’re going to go for it you should know on 3rd down, and then run up the gut to make the possible 4th more manageable.
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
THIS much...
can’t be argued with. I think the call to go for it on 4th down was gutsy, but it looked like Belicheck just said to himself “We got this” on 3rd down. Trying to run it on 3rd may have been better, even if it meant play-action.
yeah he joined this blog just a few minutes ago...
and posts BS…
like they do on other sites.. there should be a window of when you join, you have to wait 1 or 2 days before you can start posting comments so trolls cant come right after a win or something and start posting stupid stuff…..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
I know you dont want to hear from us
but I just want to say good freakin game guys! I never give up on Peyton after the Tampa game years ago, but I NEVER expected that. Good game and thanks for all the fun cross blogging this week!
Good luck the rest of the year and we will see you again in January
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Thanks, man.
In spite of the result, I actually found this to be a very enjoyable game. I knew, one way or another, that the Colts would come back. It’s almost inevitalbe.
At least we know what to do now when we meet in the playoffs. Until then, good game. We’ll get cha next time.
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I just think its great
we get to watch our two teams on ESPN Classic for decades to come.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
They show more of the earlier matchups, though.
Either the snow game or David Patten’s trifecta :)
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Oh man
most of us dont troll…I had a lot of fun this week and I plan on coming back again in January…I dont wanna get banned!
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
actually I think the reason you and I are both here
is to try to keep trolls from projecting themselves onto our fan base. I hate trolls.
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yeah man
they are annoying….and people that gloat are classless…
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
There are trolls,
and then there are those who are true sports fans, who visit other teams’ blogs and show respect for where we are.
Tough one, guys.
I was rootin’ for ya (or, I suppose, more accurately, against Manning and the undefeated Colts, but still…). :)
The glass is more than half-full.
haha
I know you dont wanna hear this, but I threw up lol I was so nervous
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
And you should be
that was the battle EVERYONE thought it would be…an all out War that was pretty much lopsided the whole game
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I was actually crying...
tears of joy. Possibly the greatest game I have ever witnessed. The Pats completely outplayed my Colts though. We have a lot to work on. Im going to have nightmares of Moss for months to come though :(
Until next epic game.
Belichick's decision was a very bad one, BUT...
even if he decided to punt the ball, the game would still be put in Peyton’s hands, which these days is the football equivalent to Russian Roulette. So, IMO, it was a no-win situation.
At least we have exposed some of the Colts’ big weaknesses, which we can build on should we meet them again in the playoffs.
That’s all I have to say on it.
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It was a 3 option deal
Get the first down. Surrender a TD to Manning from 30 out. Surrender a TD to Manning from 70 out.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 15, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
And the last option would've been VERY possible, since it is Manning we're talking about.
Btw, when is he going to retire again?
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I'm guessing Manning will be here for... 3 more years.
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And lose 3 years of Brady?
No guarantees Manning will retire before Brady – he might pull out a Brett Favre a few times.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
That's exactly what I am afraid of!
But I hope he pulls that shit in the depths of the NFC West. Except on the Cardinals, though.
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the diff between peyton 30 yrds and 70 yrds is just how long he's gonna throw it
other wise the odds of him getting a td is only slightly lowered at 70 yrds
Even that's debatable
Because he starts off with a long field to lob bombs into anywhere. When he’s on a short field, at least the secondary is compressed and he has to find gaps rather than open field to throw in.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
except
they ran it 30 out, they could not do that 70 out, the Defense should be better prepared
Uh, Manning has made a career in 2 minute drills of any distance
I’m not sure what you’re getting at.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Manning would have to take risks from 70 out with no timeout
as it is they took almost no risk and ran the footy in
He has also lost a few games with last min intercepts, at least we know he will be throwing, it would have counted for a little
4 and 2 30 out was a low % play which backfired
Maybe the evil one have 10k on the Colts
yeah its harder to score from 30 yrds out cuz zone coverage is tighter
while from 70 yrds out they can beat u long or thru the middle. i was more pissed off at letting addai get that large run. if we stuffed him it would have forced mannign to throw from and extra 13 yrds out
Thank you BB
For giving us Jets fans a slight glimmer of hope.
What the hell are you talking about
We lost to a good team atleast. You lost to a brutal SF squad.
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Jest hope?
Aha.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 15, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Jets aren't even second in the East. What a silly Fan, Jerrard P is.
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My mid-season projection of 7-9 is looking like a stretch now.
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looks like the we ended the Jets season again huh FF?
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 16, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
SWEEP
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 16, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Patriots need to bounce back from this defeat
They were the better team than the Colts for most of the game… except for those last few minutes
seriously the pats showed they were an elite team minus a questionable decision in the end
i think next time they meet BB def will not do that again
Arrogance
The only thing more arrogant that that 4th down call is someone using the words “Jets” and “hope” in the same sentence. Good luck next week.
Amazing game
You guys have a great team and that was a classic game.
Let’s do it again in a couple months.
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Yeah don't get on me.
We haven’t been playing well but if we come to play and thats a big if, I don’t see how we wouldn’t win since we already beat you.
oh yeah great point
if you win the first time its accepted that you get the next one. Not sure why they ever play the rest of the season.
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because the pats aren't the same team that played the Jets in the 2nd week
and the Jets aren’t the same team that won that game. Who’s this “we” anyway… are you going to be on the field?
Keep the faith!
Hey I'll save the Phins multi-millions and head onto the field and drop passes like Ginn if they let me ;)
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Hell, I'll make the fanbase even happier and not even make it look like I'm gonna catch it :p
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I still didn't see the measurement but he did have the first down just look where his forward progress was.
I appreciate the refs giving the Colts the victory because Peyton Manning is a poosey. If you can’t steal at home them you can;t get home field advantage.
I am fricken pissed on this one. I still would have punted, because I don’t think the refs would have called another 30 yard pass interference call to help them go the distance.
Eat me
Please settle down
This loss sucked, but let’s keep the vulgarity to a minimum. And trolls coming to gloat will be have comments removed and face banning.
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you should get a 1 or 2 day waiting period for those who join your blog...
so trolls cant come on this site and troll right when they join
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
If you weigh the odds of this team getting 3 yrd or manning making a 2 min comeback
which one would you take?
I would have taken my chances with the Defense
The risk-reward was too huge for that call… I think some players may have lost some confidence in Belichick after that one…
indeed
Nothing worse than having a whole offseason with this feeling
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I totally concur.
That would’ve been a hell of a lot to stomach during a single offseason.
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The refs would have had to make several fixes if the patriots had punted.
In this case all they had to do was steal the last play. I hope Zapruder had the video on the first down since NBC didn’t. I will probably see Obama’s birth certificate before I see where they spotted the ball and the measurement.
I like you guys going for it on 4th down
I don’t have the stats to back it up and they’re not always relevant anyway, but I like the Pats chances of converting a 4th and 3 more than I like the pats chances of stopping Peyton Manning really late in the game with a gassed defense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laydODN6xVk
Positive outlook
I think overall we played a great game, but we showed a lack of depth at DL (Joseph addai should not be able to pound the ball like that in the 4th) and we need to keep players fresh when playing quick teams like the Colts down the stretch (Saints in a couple weeks).
I don’t like to think of the decision as arrogant. If anything, Belichick was probably thinking hey, whether 30 or 70 yards, if we don’t get this first down, we don’t get it. I don’t think that is “not trusting the defense”, I think as it was pointed out earlier, a no-win situation so going for it might be fun in Madden ‘10, and it might not have been the best decision percentage-wise, but I don’t think it was a dumb decision. My big problem with it was wasting both timeouts (they didn’t have to take the first one after the kickoff).
I dunno where this leaves us; what I’m most disappointed with is we would be one game behind in the lead for the conference if we had won and now we are 3 games back, plus we are behind the Bengals and tied with a still tough Broncos and growing Chargers threat come playoff time.
The Jets is a must win. What I’m grateful for is we still have a 2 game lead. In the end, and the coaching staff has stressed it, it’s about the division.
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alright everyone...
so truthfully… was that 4 and 2 a first down? did NBC show any replay that made the call wrong FOR SURE or are we guessing?
i seriously thought we converted
he had the ball and hit foot was over the line, but the officials said he juggled and fell behind it…iunno i didn’t see anything
Booth review
I was actually hoping, since the play ended on the two minute warning, that they would give this play a chance to be reviewed, but like I said earlier, not having a time out to challenge the ruling was absolutely the biggest error on Belichick’s part.
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yeah looking back at the game...
its really all on belicheck… or mostly… not having any timeouts.. going for it.. if we punted it, peyton would have to go 80 yards for a touchdown in 2 minutes which is less probable then 30 yards… plus when addai ran from the 15 to the 1 i thought we should have let him get a touchdown cause we would have had 1minutes and 15 seconds to get a field goal to win the game..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
agreed about letting them score...
When the Pats defense stopped the Colts at the 1 yard line, it felt like a kick in the chest. They should have let the Colts score; 1 minute and 15 secs would have been enough for our Pats offense to score at least a field goal if not an actual TD.
Of course, one could argue that, had Maroney not fumbled, we’d have been up by another TD.
Kudos to Brady, Moss and our dynamo Welker (especially running the ball back to 1st and goal after Maroney’s fumble). That was good football.
There are too many, “if’s” with this game but they did a lot of things right. All-in-all a very good game – good win by the Colts; I hate to see my Patriots lose, but losing by a point and doing a lot of things right should give us hope going forward (like someone else said: thankfully, this wasn’t a playoff game!)
only booth review
if the play ended within the last 2 minute, the played ended before the 2 minute warning, which is challenge teritory
only a booth review
If the play begins at or after the two minute warning. This came up in another game a week or two ago that I was watching, play got off before the warning, clock went past two minutes then was stopped (at the end of the play) so it was 1:58 or something, and the coach had to challenge rather than a booth review
I don't think it was a first down
Faulk got control of the ball where they placed it. This decision’s on Belichick
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I agree at first
I would love to take a look at the very last replay they did on the broadcast, but what’s done is done, they left no room to review.
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I think you're correct on this, MPF
The best I could discern: Faulk caught the ball beyond the first down marker, had a slight bobble, which was enough to cancel forward progress. Once he landed, however, he was no longer beyond the marker. IIRC, there was even a foot that tapped on the line or some such thing, but because the ball wasn’t fully secured, he was marked down when he landed on his back.
Anyone else want to corroborate this line of thinking?
Man... another game full of what ifs... I hate those
What if Maroney hadn’t fumbled on the goal line…
What if BB had punted…
Absolutely
Truthfully, maroney’s fumble was really the devastating play.
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yeah... really it was...
what was our lead when he fumbled?? 17? if he doesnt fumble its a 24 point game which is GAME OVER..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
FWIW, it looked like he had it from my view in Southern California.
My take: the ball got to him when it was 1 length beyond the marker. Faulk juggled briefly and collected it right over the marker, and his momentum was taking him straight down onto his back. The impact of the tackle pushed him back across the marker and when he hit the ground the ball was one length behind the marker. He slid a little, stopped, and the ball was spotted two lengths behind the marker. If I were the replay official, that would have been how I called it using the angles provided.
All that said, unless this is another 11-5 season and the Pats miss the playoffs ‘by that much’, this loss won’t mean anything except to focus on better decision-making and ball handling in the red zone going forward, which ain’t a bad thing. I like the going for it. I don’t like the play called.
Had I owned the Pittsburgh Pirates, I could have saved America.
Well, here's to the Colts smacking down the Jets and Bills during the rest of the season.
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Man
we gotta go through the Ravens and Texans (AGAIN)…tough road ahead
/Good game guys, seriosly
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I'm not a Pat, I'm a bored Phin. The unofficial Phin-bassador!!!
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
thats cool
good luck the rest of the way for you guys too! Nice win today BTW
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
I got my 3rd heart installed.
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
It just says so much about our forth-quarter D.
Phins might have even given you a run for your money if there was only 3 quarters. But alas, there is 4. Colts, Saints, and Pats can attest to that.
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
Long you live and high you fly. But only if you ride the tide. And balanced on the biggest wave, you race towards an early grave.
It would sure be funny if the Bills whipped their... nah, that's too much in the fantasy realm, lol
Keep the faith!
If Terrell Owens woke up and had a decent QB...
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Eh, TO's usually posting good stats cause he's typically the only person on his team
that (insert name here) QB will throw it to. He typically leads the league in drops, but of course he isn’t even getting thrown to enough to lead the league this year. Quite overrated.
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Bender: Who wants dolphin? Leela: Dolphin? But dolphins are intelligent. Bender: Not this one. He blew all his money on instant lottery tickets.
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yes and no
going for 4 and 3 showed confidence in the offense but unsure of the def. the fact that he didn;t make it def brings up some questions
agreed...
yes and no. “Yes”, in the Monday-morning reevaluation sense; “no” in that BB is really tough on everybody, his face on the sidelines when he’s holding his face goes to show that he took a gamble – it just didn’t work; it usually would. So, he’s going to be hard on himself about it and they will do what they did so well in 2007, i.e. course correct. The players will get stronger and more confident. To be honest, did anyone realize that Manning was doing almost nothing other than 2 minute drills in the 4th? How porous was our D in the 4th, if they can do that? How can you then complain that BB didn’t have too much faith in the D? This is not to say that they were bad; just that in the 4th they were unable to contain Manning like they did in the 3rd.
To be honest, I’m not a BB-does-everything-right fan; but honestly, it was a gamble and it backfired. The wasting of 2 timeouts was really gut-wrenching. It was reminiscent of Andy Reid’s consistent poor clock management (sorry Eagle’s fans but I live in Philly (even wanted the Birds to beat the Cowboys… (sorry Cowboys fans)) – so you know of what I speak).
I'm not even sure it's lack of confidence in the defence...
as it is confidence in Peyton Manning to drive whatever distance in two minutes. Manning’s done it so often, against any and all defences, that it really comes down to “Manning will score irrespective, we just need to get two yards to prevent him from having the opportunity.”
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, I think the 3 SB victories are plenty enough confidence.
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Great game
As a Colts fan I know that many of you are probably feeling extremely down about this.
While watching the game I was sick throughout most of it, the Colts were not executing well and the Pats were, by and large, executing brilliantly. I felt we had been outplayed in every facet and that only the turnovers were keeping us in it.
For what it’s worth, no team scared me as much as the Pats coming into this game, and right now I would rather play any other team than the Pats in the playoffs.
Congratulations on a well played game – I hope not to see you guys in the playoffs, but I feel that it’s probably going to come down to Colts-Pats again.
Good luck with the rest of your games.
1 question, how was that a pass interference call on the second to last drive?
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:18 AM EST reply actions
I think
cause your guy leaned into Collie and never turned and tried to locate the ball
Bob Sanders does not play Hide-and-Seek, He plays HIDE and PRAY-HE-DOES-NOT FIND-YOU!
by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
anyone other than a colts fan please.
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
He fell into him in a manner that affected the feasability of the catch, or something to that effect.
But even still, he should have reeled it in, it was in his hands.
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yeah
it waws pass interference cause Collie leaned back into the guy causing contact before the ball arrived.. it was a “Veteran Move” as noted by Chris collinsworth..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for
confirming my answer as I guess mine wasnt good enough
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
so nice that you could come on out and clear that up
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
answering the question..
i said Collie leaned back into the diving patriot.. while you said the patriot leaned into collie
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
actually i just asked the question, i didnt say anything
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
Idk about that
Collie was laying out away from the defender…I mean could be, but either way the reason they called it was because your guy didnt turn and look for the ball.
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
i'm just an impartial outsider here, i have no guy
it just didnt look like pass interference to me. i think the pats got homered on that one. to me that was the game.
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Either way
great game…Im not here to troll and argue.
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by coltsfan723 on Nov 16, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
that it was
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
just conversating on a blog..
aint that what blogs are for… conversation and arguements and to prove why you are right…
i thought collie leaned back and made the refs call soemthing… the refs had to call it so it wasnt a bad call at all..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
i heard you the first time
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Man... Pats looked sooo good for 3 quarters... such a shame...
All right guys. It was a good game, sucks that we lost and I am off to bed…
they got no balls...
billichecks got balls… first down and games over… you dont stop em, well play some D and you can still win the game by gettin a stop.. didnt work out… patriots still gonna go to the playoffs and win the superbowl anyways..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
maybe Belichick had too much Balls
that is why Pat lost
he did the right call
he went for it and got a first down… where he F’ed up was not having any timeouts so he can challenge… Now whose fault was not having any timeouts?? was that tom bradys? or who??
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
gotta agree with you here
we all bitch about nobody ever going for it.
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Manning has a great record against 31 other coaches.
He’s only so-so against Hoodie, because Hoodie takes his ball away from him.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 12:38 AM EST up reply actions
Shouldn't have even come to that!
If Baloney doesn’t fumble- the game is won. Why come back with him on the last 2 drives? The time out after the kick off was wasted, and yes, he should have punted no matter who was the opposing QB. 6 points up and going for it on 4th down while at your 20 or whatever it was with any time left is just plain retarded. Bellichick just outcoached himself there!! I am soooo disappointed. That and the fact that my fantasy opponent had Wayne and I was up until that last TD just really depresses me- now where the hell is my Prozac!!! UUGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!
Guess we'll just have to take it all out on the Saints?
Few things…
1) We eliminated Dallas Clark. We did a good job, it’s just that our secondary is too young to handle Reggie Wayne. I was confused, though. Why did Pees have Leigh Bodden on Garcon instead of on Reggie Wayne? We put our younger guys on him and he caught EVERYTHING that was thrown to him. Poor job with that. We did a good job of limiting, but the Colts receivers were too good and Peyton was too accurate. They managed to get all the incredible and improbable catches and to win the game.
2) We missed Ty Warren/TBC/etc etc. We had limited pressure after a strong start. This has gone on too far. We NEED to address this in next years draft. I will question BB’s coaching if he doesn’t push for a stud pass rusher in the draft.
3) Brady IS back. He had a huge game. He is back and I have full trust in his abilities. The rust is now gone.
4) We CAN and WILL beat the Saints. If we can’t end one team’s undefeated season, we’ll do it to another team’s.
5) We need SaMo and Fragile Freddy back. Faulk was a tank today, but we need a consistent back who can gain yardage. As great as our RB by committee is, I’d much prefer a tandem of 2 studs than 4 mediocre players. I mean, when we were in the 5 yard line of the end zone, I never felt confident that we’d have a TD. If we had Stephen Jackson? MJD? AD? CJ? This game wouldn’t be close. We need to get a stud in the draft as well. Not a LoMo, but a player who was a feature back in college.
6) Faulk had that first down. I will swear by that. We just didn’t have a TO or that would’ve been over turned. BB lost us the game, plain and simple. We can place the blame on LoMo’s fumble, or Brady throwing the pick, and those were important. But we had a chance to win the game if we had punted the ball and stopped them. Sure, it’s Manning, but apart from their final drive, we had been able to limit him. It was aggressive and had it been called correctly, we would have won. However, it wasn’t and that’s football. I’ll lay this on Hoodie’s shoulders.
7) We’ll see the Colts again in the Playoffs. I guarantee it.
8) Vollmer is INCREDIBLE. Kazcur, not so much. I’ll stick to what I’ve been saying. Vollmer in at LT, Light in at RT. I might not even slide Kazcur to RG, I might leave Neal there. Have Kazcur come in and play the LeVoir role and play the 6th blocker. He was eaten ALIVE by Mathis in the 4th quarter. Vollmer handled Freeney in single most of the time (Mankins saved him a couple times). Why didn’t we start putting extra help by Mathis?
9) 60 minutes. Games last 60 minutes. This one hurts because we had it in their house, but we’ll have another chance in the playoffs.
10) I needed 10 points. (So did the Pats? rim shot) We have a great team and they’re young. They’ll keep getting better. We just need a couple more pieces until we’re back on top. This year is still ours. We can win and we KNOW we can win. We just need to execute. We’re going to win out. Calling it.
Well (excluding the fact that the Saints rested half their starters) if you guys play them like St. Louis did
you may well have a good shot.
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And I think Vollmer deserves Matt Light's starting position
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German monstrosity roaming the turf
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yeah - Vollmer was incredibly impressive
what’s up with your team finding random non-football players – lol?
How can you not love a team that does this?
he was a 2nd round pick..
its not like he was a non drafted free agent.. but yeah its scouting and player develpoment
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
understood
was just commenting on the fact that he first picked the game up in Germany (where soccer is obviously more popular), and then on the other player (can’t remember who) who was a wrestler
How can you not love a team that does this?
the only thing i can say to pats fans is this:
several teams had them on the ropes and let them wiggle off the hook. dolphins had them beat, texans, jags and now the pats. eventually that kind of luck usually runs out at the wrong time. they have alot of early exits from the playoffs to show for it.
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions
seriously i think the colts are the luckiest team this year
a medium fg miss helps them beat texas
inches on 4th (questionable too) allows them to beat us…
every team in the NFL needs luck to win games...
in fact you need some luck in any sport to win games..
by matthewmafa on Nov 16, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions
the colts have had better teams. this one just seems to me to be luckier than good.
the other great teams they had were the other way around. but yes all teams need luck.
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Have to agree with that. Same goes for the Saints- they’re undefeated because they haven’t played anybody thats any good- wait’ll they play NE.
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exactly
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
good game pats
in your coach defense i have to say this in the 4th quater the colts offense was hot , 125+ yards 21 points , your D was tired and the no huddle was taking its tall on your big D, it is the righht thing to play the % and make our offense earn the win from 70 yards , but 2 yards for an offense like yours that was raking 10+ yards per play, well i still think our offense with no huddle on your tired D would score anyway but your coach tried to win it. great game and thank you for a great week of blogging
Didn't get a chance to watch the game.
What happened to Ben Watson?
One catch in the second quarter, and then he disappeared.
The glass is more than half-full.
Game on the line, two minutes, and one timeout?
Against Peyton Manning, the difference between starting at your 30 and starting at his 20 is the difference between playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets and 4 bullets.
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by MonkeyBusiness on Nov 16, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions
i think we give peyton too much credit. he's good but i like the pats chances
with them on their own 30 with 1 time out. i give them 30/70 from there
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
yeah what the hell
everyone acts like peyton manning going 80 yard in 2 minutes is a 100% chance… now lets not overrate the guy..
Missed Opportunity?
Does anyone else think the Pats were sunk as soon as Brady threw incomplete right before they kicked the field goal with 4:12 left? Sure, if they make a first down there games most likely over. But I recall thinking at the time man they need to keep the clock moving.
Say they ran it instead of the incomplete pass attempt. That would have meant another 40 something secs off the clock at least. Or maybe the Colts burn a timeout.
Who knows what would have happened? So maybe the Colts don’t score before the 2 min warning. Do you think Belichick still goes for it if the Colts have under 2 mins left and no timeouts or does he kick it deep and take his chances?
Man that game sucked. Bad enough they lost, but I have to have flashbacks to the AFC title game too?
Same guy, new name.
you read my mind
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by stetix01 on Nov 16, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
I think Peyton can take the ball 80 yards, in less than 2 mins, with no timeouts. They run the no-huddle better than anyone else.
agreed...
@matthewmafa: “everyone acts like peyton manning going 80 yard in 2 minutes is a 100% chance… now lets not overrate the guy..”
I agree and certainly do think Manning is overrated and when 12 (and someone split their vote for Manning AND Brady) out of the 20 living hall of fame QBs says that its Manning and NOT Brady who should be considered the best I feel that they must be sipping the kool-aid.
However, while its not a 100% chance; the probability that Manning will run the no-huddle and be successful is fairly high. After all, he did score twice in the 4th in under 2 mins (granted one was from 30 yards away).
Belichick obviously thought that there was a greater chance
of the Brady-led Pats offence getting two yards, than there was of a defence stopping a two-minute drill by Peyton Manning. The conversion rate of a fourth-down attempt like that is around 70-80%; Belichick must have thought Manning had around an 80%+ chance of successfully managing a 2-minute drill down the field. Given his performance in the fourth quarter, I’d tend to agree with Hoodie – the fourth quarter was Robo-Manning in all his glory.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 16, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
and Belichick doesn't care what they think, so neither do I
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 16, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
How did number 28 Fair in the game
How did Darius Butler and McGowan do?
Good Team
Great game real nail biting 4 quarter.I for one hope there’s a rematch in the playoffs, both teams bring out the best competition in the NFL.
TIME OUTS
GREAT GAME BUT TIME OUTS ARE NOT BILL’S DOING BRADY CALLED EM
AND I LIKED THE CALL HE PLAYED TO WIN THE GAME
REMEMBER IT WILL FEEL GREAT WEN WE BEAT THE COLTS IN THE PLAYOFFS

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