New England Patriots Links 11/02/09 - Goodbye to the Bye, Gearing up for the Fins
Tom Brady reveals one of the motivational tools used by Bill Belichick.
Q: "Bill Bashing" - I've got to talk about that. Junior Seau said you're not a part of the team until you'd been "Bill-Bashed". He said it even happens to Tom Brady, but he said to ask you about it. Have you been "Bill-Bashed" before?
TB: Yeah. Randy calls it "You Tubed." We have practice on a Wednesday or a Thursday, and there you are the next morning on the big screen. You get in there pretty excited on a Wednesday morning or a Thursday morning, and then there're 30 plays of myself and Randy [Moss] and Wes [Welker], and he's going ‘What do you guys think you're doing here? This is you know what...' and using a lot of words I can't use here. He's tough on us, and I think it's for a reason. He always has a purpose in what he does and he's a very smart man and he's a great coach. He's just trying to motivate us to be the best we can be.
Bill Belichick talks about making good use of the Bye week.
Q: Is that basically what you do - self scout and throw out what's not working and get some guys up to speed, especially some of your young guys and guys coming of P.U.P.?
BB: That's right. We have some young players that have gotten a little bit of playing time, but we will continue to give them more reps in the bye week. And [it] also gives us a little more time to prepare for Miami. They've played seven games, so we'll get a pretty look at them and that will take some work there for what they do and the problems they present. It always comes at a good time, but I think it's a good feeling to come back from London. I'm glad we weren't facing a regular week this week after the trip back across the ocean.
No question. Yes, we'll have to work on [the Wildcat.] That's one of the unique things that they do and we'll be able to get a little bit of a head start on that.
TEAM TALK
- Patriots All Access Transcripts (From the episode that aired Oct. 30th, on WBZ.) Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.
- John Cockrell Friday Out-Takes: LJ gets DQ'd in KC; Blooper Reel and more.
LOCAL LINKS
- Albert Breer notes the Patriots didn't even play yesterday but they still came out winners anyway.
- Adam Kilgore reports that at 32 and coming off a major knee injury, quarterback Tom Brady says his arm feels better than ever.
- Monique Walker says that at 23 years old Jerod Mayo is a true leader and wise beyond his years.
- Adam Kilgore focuses on the Patriots' reconstructed secondary.
- Karen Guregian reports Tom Brady has moved up in the NFL rankings to third in passing yardage (2038), and the Pats (198 pts) are third behind the Vikes and Saints in scoring.
- Mike Reiss' Blog: Patriots burned with the Wildcat last year; Pats gain separation in the AFC East; Focus on Brett Lockett; Mid-Season Awards; Leaders in Special Teams Tackles; and much more. Too many to list.
- Karen Guregian awards some Bests and Worsts from the first seven games of the season.
- Mark Farinella looks at where the Patriots stand at this juncture in relation to the AFC East and the Conference, noting the killer stretch they have over the next five weeks.
- Shalise Manza Young looks back at the team to this point and offers her own superlatives, high school style.
- Albert Breer says it's unusual in the NFL that a team will rotate players in and out at corner, yet the Patriots have mixed playing-time patterns with Leigh Bodden, Jonathan Wilhite, Darius Butler and Shawn Springs the last four weeks.
- Michael Hurley notes Tom Brady reveals one of Bill Belichick's coaching secrets, and it's all on film.
- Ian Rapoport has a terrific piece about Pierre Woods' trek from the raw streets of Cleveland to the plush carpet of the Patriots locker room. Men like Ted Ginn Sr. are the real heroes of this world.
- Jeff Howe reports Wes Welker's production keeps growing with his understanding of the game.
- Nate Dow notes in 33 regular season games as a Patriots, Junior Seau tasted defeat only 3 times. A look at his tangible contributions suggests his value goes far beyond his stats.
- Ian Rapoport discusses the intense Jets-Fins game at the Meadowlands and the hate within the AFC East.
- Shalise Manza Young gets Up Close with Kendall Simmons.
- Steve Buckley offers an excerpt from his book about 2007, "Wicked Good Year - How the Red Sox Patriots and Celtics Turned the Hub of the Universe into the Capital of Sports."
- Christopher Price plugs the Joe Andruzzi Foundation as it hosts the second Annual New England Celebrities Tackle Cancer at Christina’s Monday night in Foxboro. (For ticket and event information, click here.)
- Boston Herald Patriots Notebook: Kevin Faulk still a focal point; Brandon McGowan is the team's leading tackler with 43; Logan Mankins talks about his false start penalties, blaming mental errors.
- Albert Breer notes Jason Taylor briefly considered signing with the Pats. "I have immense respect for Bill and Tommy,’’ Taylor said. "Like I said, if it didn’t work out in Miami, that’d definitely be a place I’d go, based on those two guys.’’
- Mike Reiss catches us up with how the former Patriots are doing with their new teams.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Rex Ryan bewildered by loss to Dolphins. Ryan not gracious in defeat.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB: Favre, Favre, Favre and the Favreity, Favre-Favres. Plus some NFL stuff.
- Don Banks (SI) Snap Judgments: Cowboys turning heads, Ravens 'D' stars and more from Week 8.
- Mike Florio notes the recent Congressional sniffing around the NFL, "Given the whole health care thing and the war in Afghanistan and the economy in the crapper... doesn't the government have better things to do?"
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the wildcat isnt taht hard to figure out
stopping it is no different than stopping any other power running play. It has more to do with personnel than strategy.,
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's about stacking the box...
…I think a little 4-4 action might be fun, with McGowan stepping up as the 4th “LB” who can drop back in coverage.
Warren-Pryor-Wilfork-Wright/Green
McGowan-Guyton-Mayo-BantaCain
Bodden—-Meriweather—-Butler
by The Hill on Nov 2, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing is that I dont think the Pats have a Defense like the Saints or Jets
I would think the running game would be more sucessful against the Pats
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Might be right.
Last year, though, there were some teams that were treating the Wildcat like a pass offense and were fairly effective pass-rushing Ronnie. Don’t know. Bill has about a million feet of film on it so far, hopefully he’ll come up with something.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Loved the story on Woods and Ted Ginn Sr.
Did a fan shot over on the Phinsider in case anyone there was interested. Ted Jr. had some nice redemption over the weekend. If he can find a place to be useful for awhile, he can buy some time to work on his receiving skills. He has talent aplenty, maybe we can pick him up and train him up right.
4.16 is his fastest official 40 time. 4.38 is his time at pro day after recovering from a broken ankle.
34½-inch vertical jump
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 2, 2009 11:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if the Bethel Johnson experience
would put Hoodie and Brady off another kick returning burner with questionable catching and route-running.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 2, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I respect the Pats' offense and game time adjustments, but I will not give the D any credit.
You guys have more class than the jets orginization and fans, i’ll leave it that, but im looking for the Wildcat-to do some damage.In our first show down in NE this should be a wild one here.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 3, 2009 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The D's a lot sharper than last year
And this time Hoodie has the personnel to do what he likes against the Wildcat. I’m not sure whether he’ll break out a 4-3, a 3-4, or a mainly defensive back formation to slow the Wildcat down. I’m dead sure he’ll be watching the Saints defensive tapes carefully to figure it out, though.
Personally, I’d expect a lot of the safeties Chung and McGowan in the box, putting pressure on the run and tempting Henne into throwing to Ginn, etc. If they put the onus on Ginn to carry the team early, the ’Phins might struggle, a la the Saints game.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why?
I appreciate the wild cat formation, it’s a great play but it’s not the game. The Finnless are 3-4, not 7-0. So any talk about a dangerous team here is exaggerated. Yeah they play the Pats hard; the Bills were beaten by NE and the beat the Jetless losers from NY. So does that make the Bills more dangerous? Bottom line it’s a division game and the mystery factor is not there because they play each other twice each year. But you are who you are. The Finnless were lucky last season because no teams respected them enough and had a weak schedule. Now teams are not ignorant about them. But a good team can score 36 points on them in the second half, that’s not a good sign. I only hope the Pats be themselves and play the way they should and everything will take care of itself.
Parcells teams for some reason do better the first year and they start to fade away in the next few years, it happened in NE, NY and Dallas. And I don’t think it will be to the same degree in Miami just because the Tuna is not coaching this time. Doesn’t that tell you something about Parcell. He is a good coach but he is not in the class of Mr BB.
The Pats have something that very few teams have, they have a reputation of a smart football team, which really come from coaching, and wouldn’t you say so! So bring on the Fin less and the Saint less and the Colt less too, its only one way to measure how good the Pats are, only one way, and that’s to play the game, win over the strong teams and destroy the weak ones.
by DeepThreat2u on Nov 3, 2009 9:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
But then you realize...
…that if it weren’t for some terrible officiating in the Saints game (they gave the Saints 7 points and the momentum), the Fins would have won. They lost by only 4 to the undefeated Colts. They’ve beaten the Jets team we couldn’t. They ARE a good team. However, as you said, it’s a division game so they WILL be dangerous. We will have footage, but nothing will be a given against the Dolphins.
by The Hill on Nov 3, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Parcells isnt the coach
and /o Parcells there would be no Belichick
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
*w/o
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
without Belichick...
Parcells’ light wouldn’t be burning quite so bright.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh please
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how many Super Bowls has Parcells won without him?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 3, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the record, make your own assumptions.
Parcells:
(2 Rings / 3 Tries)
L 1996 Super Bowl XXXI – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 1990 Super Bowl XXV – Head Coach (Giants)
W 1986 Super Bowl XXI – Head Coach (Giants)
Without Belichick:
Nothing
(3 Rings / 4 Tries)
L 1998 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Jets)
W 1996 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 1990 NFC Championship – Head Coach (Giants)
W 1986 NFC Championship – Head Coach (Giants)
Without Belichick:
Nothing
Belichick:
(5 Rings / 7 Tries)
L 2008 Super Bowl XLII – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2004 Super Bowl XXXIX – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2003 Super Bowl XXXVIII – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2001 Super Bowl XXXVI – Head Coach (Patriots)
Under Parcells:
L 1996 Super Bowl XXXI – Asst. Head Coach (Patriots)
W 1990 Super Bowl XXV – Defensive Coordinator (Giants) (His defensive game plan is in the Hall of Fame)
W 1986 Super Bowl XXI – Defensive Coordinator (Giants)
(7 Rings / 9 Tries)
W 2007 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
L 2006 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2004 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2003 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
W 2001 AFC Championship – Head Coach (Patriots)
Under Parcells:
L 1998 AFC Championship – Defensive Coordinator (Jets)
W 1996 AFC Championship – Asst. Head Coach (Patriots)
W 1990 NFC Championship – Defensive Coordinator (Giants)
W 1986 NFC Championship – Defensive Coordinator (Giants)
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh it's you!
I was wondering why that guy would go through all that trouble to back up how wrong he was, lol.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When confronted by perception, counter with facts!
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 3, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Busting out the F word that annoys attemptee trolls the most.
Big, dirty facts.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 3, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm no troll
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 3, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant in they hypothetical
SlotMachinePlayer has a knack for pulling out a large string of stats that back up what he says. Facts are deadly.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 3, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I Missed your response but here are a few Facts for you brother
Prior to being away from football in 2007, Henning was the offensive coordinator with the Carolina Panthers for the previous five seasons (2002-06). In his five-year stay there, the team advanced to the NFC Championship Game twice, including one year in which they went on to play in the Super Bowl (2003). Quarterback Jake Delhomme, who entered the league as an undrafted college free agent in 1997, became a full-time starter for the first time in 2003. Under Henning’s guidance he gradually became one of the NFL’s top signal callers.
So thats 3 out of 4 Years in the Playoffs
1 Super Bowl Apperance
2 NFC Championships games
perception and facts the difference maker for Henning this year is we have a better O-Line than we did last year second Tony Sparano is our coach not Parcells and Sean Payton of the NO Saints wanted Sparano on his team we are tough and smart.Don’t discredit the ‘phins as a non contender we gave NO INDY a run for the money so I know our team isn’t a gimmick at all.Bottom line it’s allways a TOSS UP between (PATS ’N Phins) every year
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's discrediting the 'phins? This thread isn't.
The discussion is that Belichick has indeed helped Parcells, and that Parcells hasn’t won a Super Bowl without him.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really...(Jim Carey)Sarcasm Wheres that other Stint?from BB oh here it is Read below
Cleveland Browns
From 1991 until 1995, Belichick was the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. During his tenure in Cleveland he compiled a 36–44 record, leading the team to its most recent playoff game win in 1994. In Belichick’s last season in Cleveland the Browns finished 5–11. In November of that year Browns owner Art Modell announced he would move the team to Baltimore after the season. Belichick resigned early in February 1996.[
Belichick ran Cleveland down to the ground,that’s why they moved the Browns to Baltimore.With out Parcells Belichick would be nothing thats when he stepped his game up when he met Parcells a winning system.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon man!
Please, please read a bit of history before spouting what you think happened and sounding more than a bit uninformed. The team’s move was way bigger than their head coach at the time.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 4, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about the Move!This is about BB
This about who Belichick was before his Parcells Stint.I’m not trash talking but He was a quitter and a loser.Under .500 so all that who needs who more crap is doesn’t change the facts.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can't even begin to respond...
some day when your ADD is under control and you can read something longer and a bit more substantive than a quick Google check, you can come back and eat your words. Until then, you’re just spouting nonsense.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 4, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"I’m not trash talking but He was a quitter and a loser"
Hahahaha.
Quitters and losers have more Superbowl rings than can fit on one hand. Naturally.
How many Superbowl rings do you have, friend? That’s what I thought.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 4, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There were many, many reasons for the Browns failure
Not trying to be a apologist for Bill, but tacking the whole Browns failure on him isn’t fair. It’s like saying the Dolphins sucked in 2007 because Ronnie Brown was injured. There’s a bit more to it than that.
BB wasn’t the GM, nor did he have much personnel say. He also wasn’t the owner. Both of those guys had a large part in the demise of the franchise. Bernie Kosar’s head-butting with the coach also contributed. It is really too complicated to go into depth on, but here’s a brief stab:
According to the Cleveland Fan:
Despite transforming the Browns from one of the worst teams in the league into a legitimate contender within four seasons, the coach’s popularity proved the inverse of his team’s on-field fortunes. Belichick was widely disliked by his second year, and almost universally despised by his third. A playoff run in 1994 failed to win over the fans, some of whom were heard to grumble that it was kind of a shame the Browns were doing so well, because it meant the coach wouldn’t be fired. Shortly after the franchise relocated to Baltimore, the coach was fired, albeit too late for his many Cleveland detractors to derive any enjoyment out of it.
Obviously, Bill Belichick has bounced back. Yet the question remains: how could a football mind so plainly gifted fail so miserably in Cleveland? The superficial analysis says that his regime was doomed from the start by circumstances not of its own making; sucked down in the undertow of the problems that plagued the last years of the original Browns franchise- mere collateral damage from the implosion that rocked the city to its core. And there’s a grain of truth to the sentiment. But it’s a little bit more complicated than that.
1993 – The relationship between Belichick and Kosar crumbled in ‘93. Kosar thought the play-calling was predictable and over-conservative, and made no bones about it- in the words of Eric Metcalf, “BK audibled on every play.” Belichick in turn suspected the quarterback was working against him in the clubhouse. Both were probably right. … The Browns were still in first place at the beginning of November when the long-festering situation between coach and quarterback finally came to a head.
1984 5-11 Sam Rutigliano (fired), Marty Schottenheimer
1985 8-8 Marty Schottenheimer (AFC Central Champ)
1986 12-4 Marty Schottenheimer (AFC Central Champ)
1987 10-5 Marty Schottenheimer (AFC Central Champ)
1988 10-6 Marty Schottenheimer (Wild Card)
Marty Schottenheimer Goes to KC along with several staff.
1989 9-6-1 Bud Carson (AFC Central Champ) (Start of the decline)
1990 3-13 Bud Carson (fired), Jim Shofner (Rock Bottom)
1991 6-10 Bill Belichick (Building)
1992 7-9 Bill Belichick (Building)
1993 7-9 Bill Belichick (QB Controversy tanked the season)
1994 11-5 Bill Belichick (Wild Card) (Beat Parcells led Patriots to go to Championship game)
1995 5-11 Bill Belichick (Move announced November 6, 1995 tanked the season)
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 4, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All those Facts still result in a losing record so it doesn't mean anything.
Remember brother perception vs Facts!You are what you are and under .500 but that was then this is now BB is a great coach today.Alirght its getting cool outside now, so im headed down to the beach TTYL guys GO PHINS!
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who needs who more?
Parcells AND Belichick together: 2 Super Bowl wins in 3 visits
Parcells solo: 0
Belichick solo: 3 Super Bowl wins in 4 visits
Parcells: 2 rings
Belichick: 5 rings
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 3, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not here to kiss Belichicks rings(lol)only joking guys but seriously
I can’t take away rings, but we are not debating SBs here, we are talking about this weeks match up.With NE’s O-line missing Matt light, NE will have even more problems in the trenches.When you here Taylor and Porters name, even Randy Starks name called for sacks and QB pressures.Don’t be surprised, when it happens.I know are rookie corners will cover Moss,very well.I think Miami will win bc of your DT and LG is out which will throw off the timing in NE’s offense.We are better than the Bucs,Bills,Titans,yes and the Jets.Please fill in the rest.
Matter of fact I help you start But Brady is…
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 2:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
Light seems to have been struggling at times this season, and the new kid Vollmer’s a revelation. He looks like a genuine stud tackle, being big enough to play RT but quick enough to be on the left side. He has a few false start issues to iron out, but that’ll come with experience and Hoodie’s watchful eye at training. If anything, there’d be a few people around who would consider Vollmer starting for Matt Light as an upgrade.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 4, 2009 5:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very simple with out Parcells there would be no Belichick.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry man,
you just don’t know your football history.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a FACT look it up i know my history.
google Cleveland Browns and Bill Belicheat.Parcells had BB on his staff before and after BB head coaching job in Cleveland.’96 is when BB was head coach od the pats know ur history!
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know he did... but it doesn't mean that no one else in the NFL recognized Belichick's talent but Parcells
Again… Parcells was a master at gathering the absolute best assistants around him available. His staff was loaded with future head coaches and coordinators. That’s a credit to him for bringing some of the best young football minds out there together.
Belichick’s defensive plan that won the Giants Super Bowl against the Bills is in the Hall of Fame – you really think that no one else knew about him? That he wouldn’t have had a chance anywhere else but with Parcells? I’m sorry, but just looking at dates doesn’t make your argument. I’ve read books detailing the relationships between Belichick and Parcells and Belichick and Art Modell of the Browns. There’s just so much more to it than dates.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 4, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Great for you. 47-35-1
I hope all of that knowledge is paying off for you.You seem very smart,only if you can, get a bigger community for the Pats Pulpit and talk football.I think you would do amazing but enought gloating Miami Dolphins are still the Best with that said.We own you guys the Patriots has been our bitches since ’67 check the over all record 45-37-1 Mia and NE all time record we still own u guys just a lil smack talk for run.Your a cool guy no bruno
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'Phins are still the best?
I’d imagine the teams that have beat you lately would disagree. And there’s been quite a few of them. Maybe you have a different definition of ‘best’ to me, but losing more than half your games doesn’t seem indicative of superiority.
Unless you’re going for record-breaking attempts? You know, a 1-15 season was pretty impressive, in that case. Best indeed.
Token foreign guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Nov 4, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah, the knowledge doesn't pay much
but I do enjoy football history. Every team, coach, organization has it’s own story and I enjoy learning about them.
Don’t you think that going back to ‘67 is a just bit far to claim superiority? It may be true, but it’s not exactly relevant. Grab hold of it if it makes you feel good though.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 4, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol it does i admit.But thats what you guys do facts and dates.
on here but I can honestly say its fun.
by Tuna4Prez on Nov 4, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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