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New England Patriots Links 11/20/09 - Jets' CB Darrelle Revis Had Help Against Moss

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Dave Hutchison (Newark Star-Ledger) NY Jets D-Coordinator Mike Pettine says Darrelle Revis had help vs. Moss.

Asked Thursday how much of Revis' coverage of Moss in the first game was man-to-man, Pettine said:

"I don't have numbers. We mixed our coverages up a lot. You have to do that against New England. You can't give them one look. I can say this, we weren't in a lot of true cover zero (man-on-man) with no help. Nobody in the league is. Most teams in the league, I would be shocked if they averaged more than four or five snaps a game of straight man coverage with no help.''

Phil Simms shares his thoughts on Pats-Jets, including this opinion of last week's 4th & 2:

"It’s been documented that this was a premeditated thought. The whole week leading up to the game, he decided he was going to do this. I always tell people this about coaches: if it’s fourth-and-one from the one, the last play of the game, coaches already know what play they’re going to call. They determine those kinds of things during the week.

So do I agree? It’s not about agreeing. Would I have done it? No, I would not have done it. What gets overlooked is not having timeouts. If he would have had one, I believe he would have won the challenge because in my mind Kevin Faulk was past the 30 yard line and clearly had possession of the football. It’s a general rule in the NFL to use your timeouts, no matter what, in the first half. In the second half, save them regardless of almost any situation, unless it’s a scoring opportunity. Save those timeouts for the end of the game."

Christopher Price lists his Five Things to watch for Sunday afternoon, including success in the red zone.

"We’re not doing as well in that area of the field as we’d like to do, as we feel like we can do, and we need to do a better job of it," Belichick said. "There’s no other way to put it, and those are important points — the difference between 3 and 7 — those are important points both ways and we have to coach it better, we have to play it better. We’ve got to play our best football in that area of the field because there’s a lot at stake, and there are a lot of things we need to do better.’’

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See if Revis can stop me when I hop like this...

LOL, too funny.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Revis is a good corner, don't get me wrong

but there is a fine line between exuding confidence and petulant “I did it all by myself” foot-stomping.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Especially when their own D-Coordinator Mike Pettine said he had help for all but around 4 - 5 snaps.

You think Moss and Belichick can read a defense after all these years?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

And Brady too

Now that Brady and Moss are back in sync, let’s watch them go right at Revis when he’s covering Moss man-to-man.

by RSNexile on Nov 20, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, Revis, get used to the view....

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

MEEEEEEEEEP MEEEEEEEEEP

It’d sound a bit different coming from Randy than from Wes.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, Randy's stride is longer

so his would be like yours above, and Wes’s would be shorter and faster. MEEEEP MEEEEP

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Good job, Mayo.

Tell it like it is.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

yes, i was happy to read Mayo's response

this defensive group isn’t so insecure that it needs Bruschi, as an ex-player, to be their spokesman. I’m hoping Tedy gets the message and only attempts to speak for himself from now on – not the Patriots’ defense. He gave up that job when he retired.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

True Dat

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Going to channel my inner Jon Gruden for a moment here...

“I tell you this Jerod Mayo is a football player! I wish I could have 7 of this guy on my team!!”

by bbismyhero on Nov 20, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

He'd like to have 12 of them on the field all the time

but the officials don’t usually go for that.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the fact that Mayo has swagger

He’s respectful of his mentor, but this is his gig now. He’s taking responsibility.

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by MaPatsFan on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And he's only in his second year!

Mayo is going to be a monster for years to come, I’m thrilled that he’s working out so well for a guy that many people on draft day weren’t projecting to go as high as he did. ROTY and captain of the pats defense, and he’s what, 24ish? Amazing maturity to go with his physical gifts.

by sc4rs on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Revis or Ryan?

Nevermind, we already know Ryan is too big for britches.

He shops at Barnum and Bailey’s – the store for Big and Tall men and really big tents.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wonder if it's the defensive co-ordinator covering his own butt

So if and when Revis does have 200 yards put on him by a Moss or a Wayne or someone, the finger isn’t pointed at the co-ordinator who supposedly put him in man-coverage all day.

“What? No, there was safety help there for all but 5 plays. Psh. It’s all Revis’s fault. My job’s secure”.

They all change their tune when the season starts to derail. It’s the Gruden effect.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

Which probably won't ever happen.

Revis has backed up any talk this season. Obviously it be crazy to not have safety help on Moss since he is such a great vertical threat. But Revis really shut down the short to intermediate routes against moss single handedly.

1. Andre Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3.Reggie Wayne
4.Randy Moss

by Jerrad p on Nov 20, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

I don't know...

it’s a totally different defensive setup, now Kris Jenkins is out. There’s no pressure on the nose, and that means the O-line can fan out and create an actual pocket. Jenkins not being in the middle means the guards can try to contain the DEs and not worry about the inside, and that means the tackles can either help on the DEs or can go after any blitzing OLBs. That results in almost no edge-rush, as well as no pressure inside.

If you want to see what happens when there’s no edge rush, just look at the Colts game and compare the defence before Ninkovich and Tully Banta-Cain went out, to after they went out. No pass-rush = Manning carving up a defence with all the time in the world.

I’m not saying that Moss will automatically put 100+ yards on Revis – Revis is very good – but the lack of Jenkins means Brady has a lot, lot longer to figure out how to undo Revis’s coverage.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The true measure of a corner is how well he holds up with 8 or so seconds of coverage.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey all, you'll never guess who won the FedEx Air Player of the week!

1. Brett Favre completed 20 of 29 passes for 344 yards and one touchdown in the Vikings’ 27-10 win over the Detroit Lions. Or…

2. Peyton Manning threw four touchdowns, completing 28 of 44 passes for 327 yards with two interceptions in the Colts’ 35-34 win over the New England Patriots.

Yep, the winner was Lord Favrequat once again of course. Can you believe it??? A single TD effort against the Detroit Lions. Unbelievable.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions  

How do you throw 30 times against the Lions and only get one TD out of it?

I’m stumped.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Revis has to hold his man for pretty long.

Seeing as we have a pretty anemic pass rush, yes we bring alot of pressure but if it doesn’t get there the nickel or 2nd corner gets exposed. Id say Revis is definately in the top 2 for quarterbacks. As for the game, it’s win or go home for the Jets, and you have a rookie qb going to Foxboro after a Patriot loss. It doesn’t look good, but the Jets provide some matchup problems and have the talent to beat the Patriots, they need to play mistake free to win.

by Jerrad p on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions  

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