New England Patriots Links 11/20/09 - Jets' CB Darrelle Revis Had Help Against Moss
Dave Hutchison (Newark Star-Ledger) NY Jets D-Coordinator Mike Pettine says Darrelle Revis had help vs. Moss.
Asked Thursday how much of Revis' coverage of Moss in the first game was man-to-man, Pettine said:
"I don't have numbers. We mixed our coverages up a lot. You have to do that against New England. You can't give them one look. I can say this, we weren't in a lot of true cover zero (man-on-man) with no help. Nobody in the league is. Most teams in the league, I would be shocked if they averaged more than four or five snaps a game of straight man coverage with no help.''
Phil Simms shares his thoughts on Pats-Jets, including this opinion of last week's 4th & 2:
"It’s been documented that this was a premeditated thought. The whole week leading up to the game, he decided he was going to do this. I always tell people this about coaches: if it’s fourth-and-one from the one, the last play of the game, coaches already know what play they’re going to call. They determine those kinds of things during the week.
So do I agree? It’s not about agreeing. Would I have done it? No, I would not have done it. What gets overlooked is not having timeouts. If he would have had one, I believe he would have won the challenge because in my mind Kevin Faulk was past the 30 yard line and clearly had possession of the football. It’s a general rule in the NFL to use your timeouts, no matter what, in the first half. In the second half, save them regardless of almost any situation, unless it’s a scoring opportunity. Save those timeouts for the end of the game."
Christopher Price lists his Five Things to watch for Sunday afternoon, including success in the red zone.
"We’re not doing as well in that area of the field as we’d like to do, as we feel like we can do, and we need to do a better job of it," Belichick said. "There’s no other way to put it, and those are important points — the difference between 3 and 7 — those are important points both ways and we have to coach it better, we have to play it better. We’ve got to play our best football in that area of the field because there’s a lot at stake, and there are a lot of things we need to do better.’’
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino reports Julian Edelman is still learning, contributing; Jerod Mayo is looking to sharpen his focus; Plus Thursday news and notes from Gillette.
- Andy Hart presents Jerod Mayo's response to Tedy Bruschi and the media.
- Patriots Today: Jets are heading in; Hannah and more. (9:12 min. video)
LOCAL LINKS
- Adam Kilgore hears Jerod Mayo and the Patriots come to the defense of Bill Belichick, respectfully dismissing Bruschi's post-game comments.
- Ian Rapoport reports Wes Welker's presence will make all the difference against the Jets Sunday.
- Chris Gasper notes the Patriots might be catching kleenex Rex and his Jets at just the right time on Sunday, with their season in a downward spiral.
- Christopher Price says the Patriots haven't relied on so many first year players as they have this season since 2003 — when Ty Warren, Asante Samuel, Eugene Wilson, Dan Koppen and Dan Klecko were all rookies on a team that ended up winning Super Bowl XXXVIII.
- Mike Reiss looks at the penalty count for the Patriots this season, saying they were flagged for just four accepted penalties last Sunday.
- Adam Kilgore reports the Patriots have settled into something of a return-by-committee operation.
- Jeff Howe focuses on center Dan Koppen and why he's so trusted by Tom Brady.
- Albert Breer notes Leon Washington is one Jet the Patriots don't have to worry about this time, out for the season with a broken leg.
- Mike Reiss reports the Patriots signed new roster members Isaiah Stanback and Kyle Arrington to 2 year contracts.
- Mike Reiss and Tedy Bruschi offer the transcript of their Thursday on-line chat. Good insight here as usual.
- Tom Curran offers a few interesting articles on his Comcast Sportsnet blog that I can't link to individually but are easy enough to scroll to: PFT breaks down Moss coverage; The slow slide of Mark Sanchez; and Last words on 4th & 2 from NFLN.
- Mike Reiss highlights the importance of sub-packages, and charts how the numbers break down this season based on press-box charting.
- Boston Globe Patriots Notebook: Teams will have different looks this matchup; Kevin Faulk is first pick in picking up the blitz; Dan Koppen said his knee felt good against the Colts; Isaiah Stanback continues to practice at both WR and QB.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Pat Fitzmaurice (ProFootballWeekly) Ten most intriguing players of Week 11. Randy Moss at number 1.
- Tiki Barber and Jason Cole (Yahoo! Sports) Jets-Patriots Preview. (4:46 min. video)
- Dan Graziano (NFL Fanhouse) It's Rex Ryan's party, he can cry if he wants to.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Dolphins still swimming in playoff pool.
- Matt Bowen (Nat'l Football Post) Players' picks Week 11. Pats over Jets 23-16.
- Dan Pompei (NBC Sports) Nothing's normal for NFL coaches - it's all ball.
- Kerry Byrne (ColdHardFootballFacts) Colts, Patriots top teams at sustaining drives.
VIEW FROM NEW YORK
- Manish Mehta (Newark Star-Ledger) NY Jets know Tom Brady is back in a big way.
- Rich Cimini (NY Daily News) NY Jets CB Darrelle Revis wants to cover Randy Moss man-to-man.
- Mark Cannizzaro (NY Post) Revis ready for rematch against Moss.
- Mark Cannizzaro (NY Post) Jets look for big returns from new special teamers.
- Tim Smith (NY Daily News) NY Jets must punch New England Patriots in the mouth.
- Greg Bishop (NY Times) Facing Patriots, Jets know it's now or never mind.
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See if Revis can stop me when I hop like this...
LOL, too funny.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Revis is a good corner, don't get me wrong
but there is a fine line between exuding confidence and petulant “I did it all by myself” foot-stomping.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when their own D-Coordinator Mike Pettine said he had help for all but around 4 - 5 snaps.
You think Moss and Belichick can read a defense after all these years?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And Brady too
Now that Brady and Moss are back in sync, let’s watch them go right at Revis when he’s covering Moss man-to-man.
by RSNexile on Nov 20, 2009 2:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Revis, get used to the view....
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MEEEEEEEEEP MEEEEEEEEEP
It’d sound a bit different coming from Randy than from Wes.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Randy's stride is longer
so his would be like yours above, and Wes’s would be shorter and faster. MEEEEP MEEEEP
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea booooooooooooooooy flava flavvvvvvvv!
Jack of all trades-Master of None.....
by Peter Chung on Nov 20, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good job, Mayo.
Tell it like it is.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes, i was happy to read Mayo's response
this defensive group isn’t so insecure that it needs Bruschi, as an ex-player, to be their spokesman. I’m hoping Tedy gets the message and only attempts to speak for himself from now on – not the Patriots’ defense. He gave up that job when he retired.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True Dat
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Going to channel my inner Jon Gruden for a moment here...
“I tell you this Jerod Mayo is a football player! I wish I could have 7 of this guy on my team!!”
by bbismyhero on Nov 20, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He'd like to have 12 of them on the field all the time
but the officials don’t usually go for that.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that Mayo has swagger
He’s respectful of his mentor, but this is his gig now. He’s taking responsibility.
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by MaPatsFan on Nov 20, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And he's only in his second year!
Mayo is going to be a monster for years to come, I’m thrilled that he’s working out so well for a guy that many people on draft day weren’t projecting to go as high as he did. ROTY and captain of the pats defense, and he’s what, 24ish? Amazing maturity to go with his physical gifts.
by sc4rs on Nov 20, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he was getting a bit too big for his britches
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis or Ryan?
Nevermind, we already know Ryan is too big for britches.
He shops at Barnum and Bailey’s – the store for Big and Tall men and really big tents.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if it's the defensive co-ordinator covering his own butt
So if and when Revis does have 200 yards put on him by a Moss or a Wayne or someone, the finger isn’t pointed at the co-ordinator who supposedly put him in man-coverage all day.
“What? No, there was safety help there for all but 5 plays. Psh. It’s all Revis’s fault. My job’s secure”.
They all change their tune when the season starts to derail. It’s the Gruden effect.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Which probably won't ever happen.
Revis has backed up any talk this season. Obviously it be crazy to not have safety help on Moss since he is such a great vertical threat. But Revis really shut down the short to intermediate routes against moss single handedly.
1. Andre Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3.Reggie Wayne
4.Randy Moss
by Jerrad p on Nov 20, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How do you think the game will go?
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
it’s a totally different defensive setup, now Kris Jenkins is out. There’s no pressure on the nose, and that means the O-line can fan out and create an actual pocket. Jenkins not being in the middle means the guards can try to contain the DEs and not worry about the inside, and that means the tackles can either help on the DEs or can go after any blitzing OLBs. That results in almost no edge-rush, as well as no pressure inside.
If you want to see what happens when there’s no edge rush, just look at the Colts game and compare the defence before Ninkovich and Tully Banta-Cain went out, to after they went out. No pass-rush = Manning carving up a defence with all the time in the world.
I’m not saying that Moss will automatically put 100+ yards on Revis – Revis is very good – but the lack of Jenkins means Brady has a lot, lot longer to figure out how to undo Revis’s coverage.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The true measure of a corner is how well he holds up with 8 or so seconds of coverage.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 20, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey all, you'll never guess who won the FedEx Air Player of the week!
1. Brett Favre completed 20 of 29 passes for 344 yards and one touchdown in the Vikings’ 27-10 win over the Detroit Lions. Or…
2. Peyton Manning threw four touchdowns, completing 28 of 44 passes for 327 yards with two interceptions in the Colts’ 35-34 win over the New England Patriots.
Yep, the winner was Lord Favrequat once again of course. Can you believe it??? A single TD effort against the Detroit Lions. Unbelievable.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Nov 20, 2009 7:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How do you throw 30 times against the Lions and only get one TD out of it?
I’m stumped.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Revis has to hold his man for pretty long.
Seeing as we have a pretty anemic pass rush, yes we bring alot of pressure but if it doesn’t get there the nickel or 2nd corner gets exposed. Id say Revis is definately in the top 2 for quarterbacks. As for the game, it’s win or go home for the Jets, and you have a rookie qb going to Foxboro after a Patriot loss. It doesn’t look good, but the Jets provide some matchup problems and have the talent to beat the Patriots, they need to play mistake free to win.
by Jerrad p on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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