Open Game Thread: Panthers @ Patriots
by MaPatsFan on Dec 13, 2009 12:52 PM EST
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Wonderboy is playing today. Was there any doubt? At any rate, our 7-5 Patriots host the 5-7 Carolina Panthers. Carolina has a 99% chance of NOT making the playoffs while New England's chances of blowing it are 22%. We need this win. We don't want to get into tiebreakers with the Fins. Let's do this.
GO PATRIOTS!!
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With Neal out, what's everyone's thoughts on O-Line?
I think this is setting us up for next year. Light at LT, Mankins at LG, Koppen (or Conolley) at C, Kazcur at RG and Vollmer at RT. Or do you think we’ll be seeing more LeVoir?
Also...
…we need to win this to shut up the critics. They act like the sky is falling, even though the Pats lost to two undefeated teams and a division rival, who won the division last year. Everyone’s acting like we’re the Steelers, losing to bad teams. We’re losing to GREAT teams. We lost two games by 1 point each. Sure, there’s been some fourth quarter collapses, but this team is still a GOOD team.
I think this Pats team has the potential to be a good team
Coaching has really hurt this team this year… if the 2008 Patriots played the 2009 Patriots I think the 2008 Patriots would win and the game would play out just like the Denver game. 2009 Pats get a big lead into half-time, 2008 Pats coaching makes adjustments at half time and stage an efficient rally winning in overtime while the 2009 Pats don’t adjust at half.
No AT, eh?
Color me shocked.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:04 PM EST reply actions
Thank god that QB is a young'un
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions
heres to making my life easier this week GO PATS
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions
Yet again, zero pass rush
If Moore finds his receivers, it’s gonna be a long day
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Ah, the Fox Network
“Watch this replay while we show you nothing but a blue screen.”
No -- his hole got closed.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Missed who that was,
but an o-lineman just got taken out by a gd safety. BS
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions
Christ, those options to backs have to come off quicker.
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Terrible call, terrible execution, sick.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions
Why?
That inside hand off hasn’t worked in weeks. Try something else.
WHY GO FOr IT?????
TOO EARLY!!! PUNT IT!!!!! FOR GODS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!! WE’RE NOT GETTING THE DAMN 4th DOWNS!!!!!!!
I'm telling ya
belichek will continue to go for those 4th downs, and he will regret it. I’ve been saying this since the colts game.
no arguement about going for it early on and in mid field
just wished they used maroney. since the fb run isn’t working. goig for it early out of field goal range isn’t gonna hurt as as much as if he did it in the red zone or later in the game
I wonder where Vince Wilfork's head is at.
He’s a guy who could be a vocal leader; I’m wondering if his contract situation is keeping him from stepping up.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions
really?
he’s been damn present in our games so far. most of the big defensive plays vs the run is due to him
No, I don't mean on the field -- he's been awesome.
I mean I wonder, given the locker-room tea leaves we’ve all been reading this week, whether he’s sitting back in a less visible way. These guys clearly need a veteran to lay down the law. I’d think he could be that guy.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Here we go:
run early, abandon it in the second half. I’m predicting it now.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions
Run or pass, they need to do whatever the rival defense is NOT expecting
Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit
The rival defense is expecting the Pats to give up the run in the second half
So they need to run all game.
This is why we need to run the ball more.
Maroney hs been playing awesome.
Man I love seeing the running game
I remember in 2007 I hated when they would hand off the ball and now its the opposite.
i think lomo would be so more decisive if he didnt jump into the hole
if he would just cut while running hed hit the hole so much faster
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions
Oh. gee. Why not go for it?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:21 PM EST reply actions
Play calling sucks
Run on first, run on 2nd. good.
Shotgun on 3rd? Why not run play action out of a I or single back set at least, make them think you might run it again…or god for bid you run on 3 straight plays and try to establish the physical game.
Exactly.
Sometimes, it’s not too complicated.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
It's a very unconfident offensive design
Almost seems that if they can’t throw the ball effectively, they abandon the run to try and through more and find that rhythm.
I think we need to get the Pats into PHA (Pass Happy Anonymus) – the first sign is admitting you have a problem
Ha. yep.
We have a problem. Wanna stage an intervention? Maybe we could get Bill Cowher to mediate.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
lately, he's been the only one worth a damn.
Ty’s performance this year says a lot about Seymour.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
green is not that bad.
he’s no seymour, but he’s not that bad.
jarvis green lowing williams down
for the rest of the guys to tackle him.
i think they should simplify the play calling for this year
run it till they can stop it. then pass it till they can stop it and just when they get comfortable run a play action
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 1:25 PM EST reply actions
Maroney is BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SAY KEEP THE GUY!!!!!!!
moss should've had that
even if the ball was a bit off.
Uh oh.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:30 PM EST reply actions
Possible route issue, Moss may have come out of it too slow
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I take it back
Not a great throw, but the replay looks like Moss slowed up. He should have been there.
Man.
This whole team needs a mental reset.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions
Suck suck suck
We’re looking at a three-game slide.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions
r defense can only stop so many plays we need points
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions
who leaves Steve Smith in single coverage?
He is the ONLY WR they have, Springs on their #1…Isolated? really?
And HEY! A Shawn Springs sighting!
Guess we know why he’s been riding the pine.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST reply actions
Elite means consistent. One pass does not a star make
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Given all the drops
I’m almost tempted to believe you.
Almost.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
any quarterback can make a bomb pass to a wide open reciever
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
one pass for a TD?
with horrible coverage by springs? Matt Cassel could’ve made the throw.
Your Matt Moore obsession is really starting to annoy the hell out of me.
When he wins a few Super Bowls and breaks records, then you can talk. Moron.
Beer is good! And stuff!
Brady, why is it that I find myself hoping we keep it on the ground?
Why hast thou forsaken your faithful?
USG
Sheesh.
Let’s just f’ing run. It’s the only thing we’re doing well right now.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions
I can't believe the reluctance to go with what is working
this feels like the 3rd consecutive weeks of the Pats running well and not committing to it enough to where Carolina has to adjust.
They are doing nothing to open up the passing game, nothing to build momentum, it’s scatter shot offense.
I think I just re-broke my broken record.
Get an offensive coordinator in this off season. A real one
A rare fumble by Welker
I think it was incomplete, though.
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Nice pass by Manning on that TD, and a great catch.
Remember when the Patriots did stuff like that? Those were the days…
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:42 PM EST reply actions
How about...
an old school double screen here? Fake to faulk on the left, spin to the right and run the screen to Watson or Baker.
That would be too "Charlie Weis". You know, creative?
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shit. moss fumbles.
dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's comprehensive.
Our team is completely out to lunch.
Rustian (if your memory is that long).
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions
I'm telling you guys
Matt Moore is better now than Tom Brady is at this point in his career. Imagine if our receivers could catch the football
You're basing this off of, what, 50 attempts this season?
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
i hate to insult people but......
adam, your a complete idiot.
remember
if brady was back to his form, and our receviers could catch the ball.
keep believing in your fantasies.
And sanchez is an elite QB
Manning sucks.
Favre is 20 years old
Brees doesn;t throw or less than 20 yrds a play
Oh yeah -- totally.
You guys are just one or two players shy of being the late-80’s 49ers. He’s a young Joe Montana.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Again, talk to me when he WINS A CHAMPIONSHIP!
Your talk means nothing at this point. Besides, he’s a back-up at best.
Now take your Matt Moore man-crush somewhere else. Your filth is not welcome here!
Beer is good! And stuff!
I think our run of glory is all but damn near confirmed with the way we've been playing.
Beer is good! And stuff!
Welker, showing Maroney-esque vision...
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions
jarvis green seems to have a nose for the ball carrier.
he’s the first one to get his hands on the ball carrier.
Um...
In other news, why’d you drop the handle?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Was made an editor on Over the Monster
It helps with distribution of the stories.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Good for you.
Keep up the good work
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
i say they get 30 yrd and fumble
seeing the way this game is going…aside from the 40 yrd td our Def has been playing better than the offense
It's Amazing how much we are all sh*tting on the Pats right now
It’s a one score game against a 5-7 team.
Glass is looking a lot less full right now
We're not looking like a good team...
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Is it possible BB is losing the team?
To me the play calls on O and D are just as questionable, if not more so, then the execution.
Bad coaching, odd actions during the week. Seems like things are slipping away from him slightly.
He needs help.
Not with Brady there.
Brady will always be Bill’s man, and he IS this team.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
3rd and 8, throw for 3
This is the worst I’ve ever seen us in years and years.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:54 PM EST reply actions
Is B'oB making these calls? Or is it Hoodie?
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Josh would come back if we let him call himself co-coach
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
We need to start utilizing Watson
We’re missing our #3. Any defense can beat the Pats by doubling Moss and beating up Welker. We can run all we want, but it won’t work all game.
Generous spot
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions
When Vince Wilfork fills a hole,
that hole stays filled.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions
Months ago.
Might’ve done wonders for this team’s mentality.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Huh.
That’s how you play the Patriots, too.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Defense should be:
Green – Wilfork – Warren
TBC – Mayo – Guyton – McGowan (yeah, the safety)
Butler – Meriweather – Sanders – Bodden
Adalius needs to be a pure pass rusher
enough dropping him back, turn him loose..
oh wait, he’s inactive….riiiiiight.
It's strange.
We’ve got a young defense generally, with the rebuilding effort and all, but there’s no reason that should make the OFFENSE play like it’s young and mistake prone.
Blah.
USG
wo would have thought at this point of defense is better than the offense?
i mean this is bizzaro world..why cna;t we have a good def and goos offense at the same time?
that was 6 and out, but still good d
Outside of the Turn over which gave them the ball at mid field, the D is playing very well. As they should against this offense.
why can;t we do run plays?
why shotgun after shotgun?
Kaczur got abused.
That’s in my instant type. Guess it happens a lot.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions
It's simple: they're just not making plays they used to make
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You can't rely on what used to work. You have to adjust to what IS working today.
IE – run the G.D. football
morris drops it.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was hoping that Brady would get the "new daddy performance bump"
Doesn’t look like its going to happen.
basically, for all crap the defense has taken in the press
it has mostly been the OFFENSE that has let this team down all year
Wrong
Indi → Offense unable to get first downs in the second half – NOT just the 4th & 2.
NO → Offense unable to cope with 7-4 & 8-3 defenses – ridiculous. How do you not stop a 3-man rush?
Jets & Broncos → go look again at how many total points the Defense actually gave up. Yeah, don’t forget to subtract the points that the offense handed to the opposition.
Miami → again, inability to get a first down in the second half.
Okay – i’ll give that the defense sucked big time in the NO game – but the offense didn’t help at all there.
Most games this season the offense has hurt the defense by either turning the ball over or by not being able to stay on the field.
I'm going to shower because I just worked out.
But someone let me know if I’m right:
Next offensive set: 3 and out
Pass (not shotgun) downfield (incomplete), Run (Maroney, 4-6 yards), Pass (shotgun) incomplete to a TE or RB.
I'm going to shower
because I feel dirty just watching this.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to think this team has been broken down mentally.
Think about the games they’ve lost.
Last minute heart break to the Colts, similar with the Dolphins.
And being told emphatically that they’re not even in the Saints league.
I don’t know if it’s because Bill didn’t manage to turn that into fire, or if it’s because this group just isn’t the same group that can get fired up about stuff like that. But it’s looking like we’re scared out there.
USG
Yep.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
It's because there isn't enough good coaching
BB doesn’t have guys who can focus on the O or D effectively while the other unit is on the team.
There are very few adjustments you can make with only 1 set of quality eyes on the game.
You can’t call the plays, make the adjustments and revise the packages all on your own.
And you don’t have time to secure the little things to close out games either.
We miss J McD more than we missed Charlie and Romeo
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
That might speak to the obvious problems.
But not to the little things.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Well the little things used to be tending to by BB
who doesn’t have time to preach and secure them, but he is too busy working on the broad strokes since there is no one who can help him there
It's scary to think the offense would run better now with Hoyer at QB.
But I think they might.
Calls would be more conservative, would be reacting to what the defense is giving you.
Right now, and all year the Pats spend too much time trying to dictate to the D instead.
Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
Talk about “no one’s special.”
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Can't take Brady out.
Not the message we want to send.
We’ve got problems, but they’re not that drastic.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
No suggesting they take him out
I’m merely pointing out that is about the only thing that seems like to would force them to adapt the play calling effectively.
Pride can be an awful thing
Now THAT is how you block for that play
Exactly the play we got stuffed on.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions
Odd
We have everything to play for (playoff spot) and Carolina has almost nothing. Who’s more fired up?
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That's their second!
Didn’t he call one in the 1st? I distinctly remember him holding up the T.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:11 PM EST reply actions
That was the the play
Not going for it, not punting it.
That missed field goal is exactly what the Pats needed
Well...let's try this again.
I feel like we need to look for a big one. Show ‘em we’re still the damn Patriots!
USG
How'd I do?
Next offensive set: 3 and out
Pass (not shotgun) downfield (incomplete), Run (Maroney, 4-6 yards), Pass (shotgun) incomplete to a TE or RB.
I flipped the first two plays, but I was accurate.
you would say that
you hate brady, and you would want anything to discredit him. yes call it the brady rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pats kick or get the ball to start the 2nd half?
I missed the first few minutes getting supercast to cooperate
@ The Hill
Run – LOMO 6
Incomplete pass, long right to TE — PI called on LB (1st)
I form: Maroney left for 3
Single back: complete to WW for 8 (1st) 2 min warning
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions
Thanks
I got out of the shower to see the Panthers miss the FG.
I was pretty close. Flip play #1 and play #2 and I nailed the plays, especially because of that iffy PI call.
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
With the strainer of an O-Line in front of him...
…I’d feel the same way too.
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
Nice call...
…is it bad when we can call these?
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
And in the end. It's 2 runs that get you 6.
Imagine that.
I will give the Pats credit there. Using Faulk primarily in the pass gaming, actually sets him up very well for that draw like play.
Don't worry.
I’m sure Montana/Elway/Marino Jr. will bail you out.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
ignore the immature troll
he will only continue to complain here. best to not give him attention.
Howso?
They were iffy, but they were callable.
1) He didn’t look back towards the ball
2) Difference between bumping in the first 5 yards and grabbing the guy.
Sorry, I shouldn’t feed the troll
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
You're close to being banned
Stop trolling and contribute or take a hike.
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Excellent Blocking.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions
Nice to see Connelly getting some movement on his side.
He’s been C-R-A-P for a lot of his chances.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
You did. I remember.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
hobbs wasn't meant to be a #1 CB.
he was fine in 07. but yeah, butler will be better.
almost a nice play by the panthers!
thank you meriweather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the way the defense is playing - if they continue
and the offense continues to mix it up, they should win.
They can’t go back to being one-dimensional though.
Power running formations in the 2nd half
Twine TE runs, counters and P/A
Wait….was that paint thinner or water I just drank
i wonder why we keep going to the shotgun
I noe last year Cassel had to go shotgun cuz he couldn;t stay upright in any other formation. But even in 07 the pats never played out of the shotgun n a majority of plays
Who woulda thunk...
Maroney’s our best offensive player
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FAULK!!!! BEAST!!!!!!
good thing he hung onto the ball!
Watson!!!
we utilize our TE!!!! about time!!!
Not sure if he's dead to me too.
Probably not. But come on.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
can you just ban adam please?
he’s lowering my IQ.
face it
your team is not that great. im a panthers fan, and are we that good? no, but we’ll beat you. we have a better qb and a better defense. ill take it
HOLD ONTO THE DAMN BALL!!!!!!!!!!!
DON’T TURN THE BALL OVER!!!!
Alright, offense is moving.
D needs to keep up the 3 to 6 and outs, get the ball back and score.
Just keep doing that on O, keep two men on Smith, and keep sending 6 at Moore
i am not sure what i am watching...
come on boys. you are better than this! geessh
Another failed challenge. This is beginning to be a sub-theme of the season
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions
100 receptions for Welker - all while missing 2 games
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Don't call it a comeback!
WW
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions
They had it last time.
Before Morris dropped the ball.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
By the way, for any curious about the status of my "dead to me" list
Faulk gets a pass because it was a good play by the defender.
I know this is at the forefront of everyone’s thoughts.
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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
WELKER AGAIN!!!!
B-E-A-S-T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
good playcalling!!!
passes with some runs!!!!!!!
Randy?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions
We really, really need a #2.
It’s the big missing piece on offense
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions
BRADY TO WELKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23 YARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do you guys hear that.....what is that noise?
I keep hearing this, CLICK CLICK CLICK.
Of wait…that’s the Offense
That's because you're a fat piece of crap, Goose.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:12 PM EST reply actions
Wait. We have tight ends?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:13 PM EST reply actions
Is that what you call the guy who lines up outside the tackle?
What a terrific drive. Absolutely huge for the boys.
I guess. I just thought they were fat wideouts.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
WATSON!!!!! TD!!!!!!!!!!
UTILIZED THE TE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The big right hand.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
This is what I'm talking about!
good playcalling!
Great playcalling that drive
The Panthers didn’t know what hit em.
Well, I think so.
But then I think the lineplay is the most interesting part of the game.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
I actually think Belichick took over the play calling the second half
I saw him standing next to Bill O’briend talking to him, or at least he influenced it more
"So, what do you think we should run"
“Well coach, I think—”
“Nope, that’s where you’re wrong. I’m doing that now.”
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Cleary something changed offensively
It’s not just the plays are executing, it’s the play calling as well.
Either BoB is calling or not calling anymore. Or Dante "I am still alive " Scarnegchi jumped in to save the day
Couldn't agree more
Now if the defense adjust to blitzing Moore, I might have to get back to the paint thinner
Where's Wilfork?
The easiest Where’s Waldo derivative EVER.
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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
He's hiding behind the fat guy...
…wait. Is that him?
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I thought that was a giant flag!
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
What happened to Wilfork?
I missed that.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions
ugh come on defense, play liek you did the first half
but who am i kidding te pats defense always disspears inth e 2nd half
reinjured his foot is what the Globe's extra points is saying
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Fat man with an injured foot.
Recipe for recurring disaster.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
ugh - that's not good
we need to clog the middle to stop their RBs
Our cornerbacks suck.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:24 PM EST reply actions
Oh wait. That was Springs.
That’s what he’s supposed to do.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
good catch, bad coverage
HIT HIM when he’s on the side line, you don’t need to try and pick everything.
Make the safe play.
Warren and Wilfork.....
running game is going to pick up for Carolina if they are both out.
ball control on O for the next drive, need to make the clock our friend, not theirs.
WOOHOO!!!
pass rush and excellent position by meriweather!!!!
Ouch, Meriweather would've had a long jog on that pick
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Exactly
This is where the offense has failed most of this year. Time to change that.
Actually, for the last several years.
I would include the “one that got away” in that. We’ve often had the opportunity to close it out on offense but wound up forcing the D to make a stand.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
I stick by my statement
Matt Moore is better than 2009 Tom Brady. PERIOD
I stick by my statement
Carrot Top is funnier than Adam Sandler. PERIOD.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing MaPatsFan sticks by the answer of
“Banned”
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
well.....
I guess play action out of a shot gun is still play action right?
It worked…even Goose noticed
Coming back.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM EST reply actions
oops my bad
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
Nick Kaczur hurt.
But I’m pretty sure there are Point Guards in the NBA who can do his job better than him.
USG
Maroney averaging 5.1 per
Team is averaging 5.7
I think we should run the ball.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:36 PM EST reply actions
Perhaps
But Welker – Brady has been perfect this half.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I hope you aren't asking the OC to
A – react to what the game is giving him
B – think
You are going to give yourself an ulcer.
Too late.
Seeing the doc on Monday.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
no no no
Dude. That’s just what we don’t need — a 3rd and long. Complete passes, mix in runs, move the chains burn the clock.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not defending him, but I am NOT looking forward to
all the idiot media pinheads criticizing Moss for his performance today.
Oh God, it's gonna be a bad week.
“OH MY GOD HE WAS LATE AND THEN HE SUCKED CUT HIM WHAT A BAD MAN AND NOT AT ALL A TEAM PLAYER”
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Randy --
he needs more action. He tends to do better when he gets more throws.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM EST reply actions
hat drive was not what we wanted.
but i’ll take the field goal!
29 23 saints.
atlanta has one more drive to get the win.
anyoen notice manning is under 50% in completed passes?
i swore the guy had 3 td’s in the first half…did he complete one pass in the 2nd half?
Colts can't have a convincing win.
The world would implode.
USG
by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Guyton
A bright spot to build on.
I’m guessing he keeps getting better.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:44 PM EST reply actions
D has its back up
—crowd seems to be with them
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions
That's a young QB for you...
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions
Man, WW is absolutely nerveless.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:46 PM EST reply actions
LOMO! LOMO! LOMO!
Time to become Antowain Smith !!!
Half-field?
Mid…
I dunno what I’m doing.
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by Ben Buchanan on Dec 13, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Hope they don't foul out.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
screw that
26 23 saints. thought they’d make the field goal.
Good protection ---
Vollmer needs to not quit until his man does, though.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions
Whoa. That was a gift.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions
Here - you take it.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Godawful.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:53 PM EST reply actions
Indy in the redzone
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions
Pats O 3-10 on 3rd
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions
Indy scores; game essentially over.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions
There is no pressure from NYJ or MIA
Pats only need to look ahead, they have the best schedule to close out of the 3.
ya
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing looks easy to me.
Inconsistent as we are. And the Texans are certainly no joke.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
Division is the Pats to lose. Don't need help from anybody but Cincy and SD
They both need to start tanking hard so the Pats can sneak into a 2nd seed.
we just gotta stop beating ourselves
3 fumbles and a blown 40 yrd td…other than that the defense looks good
other than the 4th quarter at Indy and the Saints game
the defense has overall played well all season.
Just check the points-surrendered stat. That’s all that matters.
Okay - good games by both Guyton and Burgess today
Bad game by Moss.
AD inactive.
Burgess is better than AD right now
moss need to pick his game up but it’s one bad game so we can let it slide since everyoen has an off game
Sure - but that is like saying a 250lb hooker is better then a 300lb hooker
end of the day the both aren’t worth the money.
I don't think we are paying a lot for Burgess, are we?
’Nothing compared to Thomas.
i have a hard time being down on Moss
when he comes into the game as the NFL recieving yardage leader
yeah liek i said every Reciever has a off game...this was moss's
i expect 100% to pick it up next game, he has something to prove now
be nice if he could round out his game in the mid and short areas though
leads in yardage, largely hit or miss this year.
He’s good, but he hasn’t been great.
Nifty little run by LOMO right there.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:03 PM EST reply actions
Maroney was a BIG factor today!
20 for 88 yards. 100 yard games don’t always matter. it’s the production.
LoMo has played well in the last 5 games
if could hold onto the rock – he’d be everyone’s favorite guy
Can't close out SH*T.
You have to be able to find something when you absolutely need it. This game should be over.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions
That's it. Nice.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
'deed I did.
Happily.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
MARONEY!!!! BEAST!!!!!!
maroney is awesome. thank you for using maroney o’brian.
Ugly first half - great second half
All because O’Brian FINALLY seemed to start using all the weapons on this team.
A lot works when you rush for more than 5 ypc.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Recap up
http://www.patspulpit.com/2009/12/13/1198864/quick-recap-patriots-defeat
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