Quick Recap: Patriots defeat Panthers, 20-10
by MaPatsFan on Dec 13, 2009 4:09 PM EST
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PrintA W is a W, however ugly it is. Randy Moss was essentially non-existant with drops more often than not. Maybe we can count him as productive as a blocker or decoy - who knows. All I know is Wes Welker is an absolute rock star. 10 receptions for 105 yards puts him over 100 receptions for the year...and he missed 2 games this season.
Offensively, I was happy to see us mix the run and the pass. Laurence Maroney with 94 yards and Kevin Faulk with 58 simply chewed up the clock and kept Carolina off balance. Defensively, things look a bit better. The defensive backfield had some nice blocked passes.
This game, overall, was too close. We needed some key Carolina penalties to keep the game going. Against a team with better fundamentals, it would've been a different story.
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It looked like everyone had the flu.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Dec 13, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions
LOMO had 94 yds, not 88
and I know the TV guys made Welker the ‘player of the game’, but to me it was LOMO.
He also got a dozen yards on pass receptions
and some yardage in KR, too. Welker got some in PR, though, so it might balance out.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 13, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Play calling
at least the play calling was much better this game, and it didn’t seem as flat (note: I only saw the second half). Its getting there, but LOTS of work to do still
yeah, the 2nd half was like Bill O'Brian suddenly having the Light of Revelation
Finally, we started to make USE of all the varied weapons we have on this team.
At the same time as he made it off the injury report
Makes you wonder just what had been nagging at him, injury-wise.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 13, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
It was Beeyooteefull
At this point, it’s last call and I’ll take the win no matter if it takes a six-pack to fully appreciate its beauty.
Keep the faith!
the game should have been more of blow out than the score indicated
the pats were able to move the ball but 3 turn overs screwed us especially when they had things going. I’m just glad they found play calling that works. Ona side note, i tihnk we should just stick to faulk and maroney…morris has stone hands and is not as good pounding it up the middle. Maroney and faulk are both more verstile
while I agree
in his defense, Morris’ problems looked largely to me like timing issues – being out so much hurts timing and timing is critical for running backs. Late/early to the hole, not releasing blocks at the right time, out of position on routes, etc. etc.
they have a making of a big choke in the playoffs
even when mannign throws 3 td’s in the first half they almost lose.his numbers are worse than it indicates. int he 2nd half he couldn’t complete a pass for his life. luckily bronco’s offense isn’t as good as some other teams. Colts are not making naything easy fo themselves
why are you upset? Its not like its a Patriots record.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
ahh thats right
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
I can sympathize, my kid's a Panthers fan.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
thanks
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
They did just break the consecutive win streak record of ours.
But yeah, it’s moreso that they’re just the Colts.
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
wheres the village idiot from carolina
i think his namw was aw somethin about moore being elite or whatnot
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions
ah ok. i wanted to gloat but its fine.
at least my heart lost some weight after the last 2 weeks
by MOSS81 on Dec 13, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I was watching him.
Even the Panthers’ fans can’t stand him.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, I wanted to goad him a little
Elite QBs throw more than one TD against the Pats. Heh.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 13, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
adamsomething.
we should email him or something.
fun fact...even other panther fans think he;s crazy
i say he’s matt moore posting int he middle of game praising himself
i just don't understand it
At first, I thought it was just praise of an underrated player that was flying under most people’s radar. Enthusiastic, and maybe a bit unrealistic, but kind of the way we stuck up for Cassel last year.
Then I went and read the open game thread of the Panthers. Goodness…his praise of Matt Moore wasn’t just borderline worship, it was the ranting of an unhealthy sycophant. According to him, everything that went wrong with the Panthers passing game was everyone’s fault but Moore. High pass? Receiver should have jumped. Pass in the dirt? Receiver should have scooped it up. Off target into coverage? O-line should have given him more time.
Bizarre.
sounds like me with maroney!
but at least i do recognize even maroney’s mistakes.
i always listen to them
sometimes they make some points, but they’re just basing this, i heard, on the 3 fumbles. besides that, the offense has been solid in the second half.
Maroney did well today.
you guys think it’s because it might’ve been a two back system?
Middle son is upset, but I'm glad the Pats came out with the win.
A game where the second half looks better than the first. Moss looked scared as heck across the middle. It looked like he took his eyes off the ball on every drop (from what I could see through the stream). Lo Mo was definitely a bright spot.
The Pats made a ton of mistakes, but in the end it didn’t burn them too much. It’s not what you want to see in December football, but it’s a win to build on.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions
Joey Galloway imitation?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions
villmer over kasir
Don’t even know how to spell either name but I’ll take Seebass, Light, Koppen, Neal and Mankins
Yeah
Kaczur has been disappointing this season for me. Put Volmer in, I agree. It would be nice to find another Volmer type this next draft or in free-angency.
'A warrior may change his metal, but not his
heart,' as the saying is upon Barsoom." Dejah Thoris
he just was not into it today
bad game. He’ll be back.
I wonder if the "lack of focus"
was really a “Screw You” for being sent home earlier this week. He starts this crap, he’ll be looking for another team next year just like AT will. He had a lot of baggage when he came.
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"
That's been the wrap on him since he got here
TO doesn’t even get this much scrutiny; no one else does in this league. Bizarre.
Keep the faith!
Roy Williams *might*
but that’s just because he was meant to replace TO, and because Dallas sold the house, kids and dog to get him.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 14, 2009 7:29 AM EST up reply actions
Its possible
that he’s “pouting” – I don’t like to play pop-psychologist.
But i’m also starting to wonder if it is compounded on top of all the back problems he’s had.
I know that folks who don’t have a bad back problems rarely understand or have a lot of empathy – but back problems really tend to take the wind out of your sails and can drag on for weeks.
Tall skinny guys often are especially prone to recurring back problems.
Of course, we’ll never get real accurate injury data out of Foxborough so one can only speculate. Its just as valid speculation as all the pop-psychology, though.
Good Point
On top of that they sent him over the middle where people would be hitting him right away. I just thought he looked gun shy. Once you start to hear steps, it’s hard to concentrate. The point is, they’re going to hit you anyway, so catch it and get off the field.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
That's a possibility.
I didn’t remember his back problems until I read your post. I have had lower back problems for the last 10 years or so. When it acts up, it can really limit what your body is capable of doing. I hope it is that instead of a bad attitude. I like RM and I would love to see him finish his career here. Maybe I was a little harsh with my assessment, and should cut him some slack. Come to think of it, he looked really disheartened after the pick and the fumble. If it had been somewhat intentional, he probably would have acted like it was no big deal.
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"
Yep, it would be hard to play in that.
Weather like that, it would be hard to sit in the stands and watch the game, much less on the field with no coat or rain pancho to wear. I don’t know how warm the gloves they wear are, but I imagine once they’re wet, the hands stay cold.
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"
same here (with the recurring lower back probs)
I’ve had them hit me out of the blue off and on since I was a tall skinny teen.
When they happen, I’m useless. I can’t imagine trying to perform at a major professional sports level.
That’s why I’m fairly sympathetic to JD Drew and his back problems – hard to believe he’s able to put up a .900+ OPS with a stiff back!
Well I'm a Bills fan
So I hope not. But the reason I asked was hasn’t he been kind of non existent the last 2 or 3 weeks?
Moss
was probably still moping about being sent home for being late to the meeting, and couldn’t consentrate. Bill hurt his feelings. Moss may still be harboring sour feelings about it. Don’t know about the last few weeks though. The play calling prior wasn’t so hot, so that may be part of it too.
'A warrior may change his metal, but not his
heart,' as the saying is upon Barsoom." Dejah Thoris
last few weeks it was play calling..
he was open a lot but they didn;t pass to him, or they just made him run really dumb generic routes…today he just flat out had a bad game
saw him getting off a few good blocks
and those were just the ones i noticed, but you’re right that he had an overall lackluster game. I swear it was the rain more than anything. He doesn’t mind the snow, but doesn’t do well in the rain.
Keep the faith!
Like the Steelers game last year?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
If Moss really wasn't trying, like some commentators say...
he’d give up on the plays where he knows he isn’t going to get the ball (ie – blocking during run plays) rather than the ones where he knows the ball might come in his direction.
If he’s blocking, he’s trying.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 13, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe they switched their first half and second half game plans around?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
at 12 receptions per game, I doubt that would happen.
If he had been in those other two games, it would be a bit over 7 per game.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jagz, Texans and Bills.
I think it’s possible. I think we’ll be throwing the ball more against the Texans, letting Slot get open, and I think that we’ll be utilizing the short ball (Welker specialty) in the bad weather against the Jagz and Bills.
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
12 receptions is Welkers game high, I think.
It’s possible, just not very probable. I’d love to see it happen, though.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 13, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
He caught 15 against the Jets earlier this season...
…so there’s hope!
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
90 rushing, a dozen receiving, and a few kick returns
He’s not Adrian Peterson, but he’s a contributor. It’s a little Brian Westbrook-ish, which isn’t a bad thing at all – Westbrook (when healthy) is a brilliant foil for an elite QB in McNabb. Maroney looks really good in this capacity.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 13, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I'm liking his recent contributions.
If we can get a long term replacement for Faulk as well as another young guy for our stable, our running core will be VERY good. I still feel like our running game is a result of how well our passing game works, so we need to rejuvenate our receivers in order to continue making room for LoMo.
I would like to see the following in the passing game:
1) Stop forcing the ball to Moss. He can make the catch, but it’s a waste of a play if you throw to him double covered. He’s still a top WR, but he’s not a “catch anything thrown at him over 2 guys” receiver anymore.
2) Start using Maroney and Faulk in more screens. They can get yardage when they’re in the open field and it switches the play up from just passing to the WRs.
3) Utilize Watson more. He’s a GREAT receiver, if he’s thrown the ball. He hasn’t been getting looks. Give him more looks (set him on the line so the D doesn’t know if he’s a blocker or receiver) and that will draw coverage from Welker and Moss, allowing them to make bigger plays as well.
4) Stop sacrificing Welker. If we do the above, we’ll limit his wear and tear while still producing.
5) Magically heal the O-Line. Yeah.
by Richard Hill on Dec 13, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
and make the safe passes, instead of going for long ones, or passing short passes on a 3rd and long.
I would love to see C. J. Spiller in a Pats uni.
He’s a great back with good hands and world-class speed. He’s also a great KR/PR. His draft price will probably null that, tho.
"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"
randy moss
at least TB didn’t yell @ moss for quitting on that INT.
i think moss is still puzzled about that Wednesday incident.
That INT
Did Moss run the wrong route and was the ball under thrown a bit? Was it all Moss’s fault? The timing between Moss and Brady has been off all season. Can one Moss cause all this? .. Hmmm…
by getthat18now on Dec 13, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
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