New England Patriots Links 12/14/09 - Patriots Not Perfect, But Good Enough
Peter King (SI) You've got to like Tom Brady trying to put the pressure for the Patriots' performance down the stretch on his shoulders.
"Put it on me,'' he said over the cell phone on his way home from Foxboro on Sunday evening. "That's where I want it -- on me.'' You asked for it, you got it. We talked for maybe 15 minutes, and I'd have thought he'd be exasperated by a few things -- Moss, how poorly they were playing across the board the last month, the fourth-down-conversion problems, the Adalius Thomas fiasco. But no. Brady was ridiculously optimistic. "It's like a heavyweight fight,'' he said. "A boxing match. We just gotta keep fighting. We're not the same team as we were last year or the year before, but I haven't lost faith in us at all. It's just that our margin of error is so small.'' Whereas in 2007, Brady had a couple of professional receivers, Donte Stallworth and Jabar Gaffney, as his third and fourth wideouts after Moss and Welker, now he's got the green Aiken and Julian Edelman (who's been hurt consistently).
New England's 8-5, a game ahead of the Jets and Dolphins, with the Bills, Jags and Texans on the schedule to finish up. Not too hard, not too easy for the old Patriots, but for these Patriots, where everything comes hard? "We're 7-0 at home,'' Brady said. "We just put up 470 yards of offense against a good defense in Miami. We got the best coach in history. Shoot, once the playoffs start, if we're fortunate enough to make them, anything can happen. We were 18-0 and didn't win the Super Bowl. You never know. Don't lose faith in us.'' When I got off the phone with him, I thought: That's what he's going to say to his team this week.
Tom Brady shares what he was saying to Randy Moss on the sidelines.
Yeah, I mean, it's frustrating as a player when you're - you know, he was frustrated in himself and the situation and it's just something you've got to fight through. He keeps fighting through it and you have those days where it's not all great, but you keep lining up and you keep going up. You've just got to keep fighting. I think that's the message I always try to convey to everybody. I mean, if you're a quarterback, you throw picks, you throw bad balls. If you're a receiver, you drop balls. If you're a running back, you fumble balls. You know, it's just part of the process and it's about making the next one a good one and not making the next one another bad one because you're a little bit down in the dumps.
TEAM TALK
- Game Notes: Patriots vs. Panthers. Team and player milestones reached and records set.
- Post Game Pressers: Bill Belichick (7:02 min.), Tom Brady (6:09 min.), Wes Welker (5:15 min.) Plus Transcripts.
- Post Game Quotes: Patriots and Panthers.
- Erik Scalavino notes the Patriots owned the second half for a change.
- Erik Scalavino Derrick Burgess discusses his Wednesday dismissal, plus Friday notes from Gillette.
LOCAL LINKS
- Adam Kilgore recaps Sundays win over the Panthers, and the Welker hit that resuscitated the lifeless Patriots out of their first half stupor.
- Ian Rapoport says the Patriots dug out in time, bouncing back from a distracting week to win.
- Shalise Manza Young writes that this Patriots team still has a lot of questions despite the 20-10 win.
- Mike Reiss focuses on the spirited play of Wes Welker.
- Karen Guregian notes Wes Welker called out his teammates last week backing it up on the field with a stellar performance.
- Albert Breer reports Wes Welker was spectacular again on Sunday -his 10 catches for 105 yards accounting for more than half of Brady's 192 passing yards.
- Jim Donaldson concurrs that Wes Welker is a producer on the field and an inspiration to his teammates.
- Steve Buckley lauds Kevin Faulk for his fired-up play on the field and for
slapping the team sillythe pep-talk thatsparked the team at half-time. - Christopher Price lists his ten things we learned from yesterday's win.
- Bob Ryan concludes the days of style points are gone. They're all going to be like this from now on.
- Dan Ventura calls the Ben Watson TD the play of the game, as the play to the TE in the end zone was a change from an entire drive that toggled between passes to Welker and handoffs to Maroney and Faulk.
- Adam Kilgore gauges the effect of Bill Belichick's discipline in today's Patriots victory.
- Chris Forsberg notes that after laboring through the first half, Brady was proud of his team's resilience.
- Albert Breer talks about Randy Moss shutting it down yesterday.
- Mike Reiss reports Tom Brady defends Randy Moss. Good for you Tom.
- Ron Borges massacres Moss for his M.I.A. act, and lists his Bests and Worsts from Sunday.
- Adam Kilgore notes Shawn Springs was back in action.
- Monique Walker says Brady was on a quest for his teammates yesterday, challenging them to focus and keeping them from being frustrated.
- Albert Breer offers five quick hits to wrap up the victory.
- Mike Reiss lists his Who's Up and Who's Down from Sunday's win.
- Boston Globe Patriots Notebook: Personnel shifts on defense helped the Patriots hold the Panthers to the third fewest points-allowed this season; Vince Wilfork left the game twice yesterday with a foot injury; Junior Seau took a handful of snaps in place of Gary Guyton again; Gostkowski's 47 and 48 yard FGs pushed his point total over 100 and his career FGs to 100; Kevin Faulk pumped up his teammates yesterday with his TD and his energy; Sebastian Vollmer did a fantastic job in his first game back stopping Julius Peppers.
NATIONAL NEWS
- NFL Game Center: Carolina Panthers at New England Patriots. Recap, stats, analysis, highlight videos.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Dolphins, Jets stalk vulnerable Patriots.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Some illuminating Moss stats. Eight of 11 Brady interceptions were intended for Moss.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) NBC Studio analysts Tony Dungy and Rodney Harrison and host Dan Patrick discussed Patriots WR Randy Moss' dubious performance in a 20-10 victory over the Panthers in Gillette Stadium.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB: Fourteen things you need to know on the heels of Week 14 in the NFL.
- Don Banks (S)) Snap Judgments: Assessing the chances of AFC wild-card contenders.
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optimisim
I’d have thought he’d be exasperated by a few things — Moss, how poorly they were playing across the board the last month, the fourth-down-conversion problems, the Adalius Thomas fiasco. But no. Brady was ridiculously optimistic.
Funny thing is – why SHOULDN"T he be optimistic? All the talking heads are focused on (a) the lackluster first-half performance and (b) Moss.
But the game was decided by (a) a great overall performance by the defense and (b) the vastly improved play calling in the second half which finally had the offense consistently moving the chains.
As a professional athlete – and especially as a team leader – you look for signs of IMPROVEMENT in your team. Both of those latter two things are signs of improvement in two critical areas that they can build on going forward.
I'll never understand
the philosophy that critical statements pointing out flaws and potential doom (if left unchecked) are seen as more valued and ‘intelligent’ than positive statements pointing out improvement and cause for optimism. The latter is wholly dismissed as homerism or blind faith.
Keep the faith!
Tony Massarotti is an example
His blog touts “Information. Insight. Analysis.” I don’t know what we’d do without his oh-so-special conclusion that the Patriots simply aren’t as good as they were in 2007.
They’re just not that good anymore, really. They’re not good enough to be forgoing field goals and they’re not good enough to win on the road, and they are certainly not good enough to win the Super Bowl.
And so, for once and for all, can we stop with the silly comparisons? Well, they were 7-5 after 11 games in 2001, and they won the Super Bowl. Come on. Well, they had holes in 2006 and they should have won the AFC Championship. Please. Well, they lost Brady for the year and still went 11-5 last season, and it was a fluke that they missed the playoffs. Whatever.
As a friend once said: When things are at their worst, tell yourself whatever is necessary in order to get through the day.
In retrospect and beyond a shadow of a doubt now, this all began in the desert in February 2008…
Really? He got paid to write an article concluding the Patriots are not as good as they were when they were one game short of a perfect season. It’s quacks like him that blame the team for the knee problems they incurred from jumping on and off the bandwagon at the speed of a TD reception or a fumbled ball.
Keep the faith!
he's a clown
Always prone to drama and exagerated nay-saying.
Basically, people like Mas and Felgar are cowards. They shield themselves with pessimism so that if things turn out bad, they can hold up the “I told you so!” sign. If things turn out okay, then they can either conveniently forget their nay-saying or shrug and say “Okay, I was wrong -but I’m glad I was wrong.”, knowing nobody will really was time holding their toes to the fire over being ridiculously pessimistic.
In a sense they are opportunistic ghouls – they extract personal positives (“I was RIGHT TO BE A NAY SAYER!”) when bad things happen.
I actually have a lot more respect for a complete homer like Smerlas who always looks for the positive – but admits he ‘analyzes’ with his heart out in the open. He lives and dies with the team he follows.
Mas was all over the trading of Seymour when it happened saying basically that that left them with NOTHING at DE for this year (the point being that you should maximize the opportunity for a championship within the Brady/Moss/Welker window) – basically ignoring the fact that there are other guys on the team (Jarvis Green, Mike Wright, etc.) who may not be pro-bowlers, but are hardly ‘nothing’. And the fact is that in reality this defense has been fine – the defense has had about one & half bad games but otherwise has done what its designed to do very well. The stats don’t lie – look at the points actually surrendered by this defense – they are 7th in the NFL and if not for the Saint’s game would be in the top 4. You’ll never get him to admit that though.
well to be fair
you guys arent that good anymore.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
How do you know?
Have you seen me in action? Are you an internet spy or something?
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
or did you mean the Pats.
They’re about as good as they were at the beginning of the decade. We’ll just have to see how they finish out.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
How about if your Dolphins were compared to their perfect season
every single year? There’s no where to go but down, the current team will never match up, and the media is consistently on their backs for not living up to the single greatest season in the NFL. Doesn’t seem quite fair to use that as the new standard, does it?
Keep the faith!
exactly
yet from a coaching perspective – if i focus so much on the negative, i create self-fulfilling prophecies of doom.
Good coaches note the negatives and try to apply corrections, but you focus your team’s thoughts and attitudes around your strengths, not your weaknesses.
Wow – I think I really butchered the personal voice there.
Rocky! Rocky! Rocky!
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions
hmm I hope he was walking because
“Put it on me,’’ he said over the cell phone on his way home from Foxboro on Sunday evening.
Tom should know that would be illegal ;)
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions
never thought of that
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't trying to make it one
Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman
Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Are you serious?
Only 6 states prohibit people from talking on cell phones while driving (California, Connecticut, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, and Washington)—and that’s just for handheld phones. They can still use hands-free devices. It’s very legal in Massachusetts.
Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.
by LegendaryTadpole on Dec 14, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah definitely
It’s legal for now, and I was pretty shocked to find out only 6 states banned them. I think all sort of cellphone use (handheld and hands-free) should be banned while driving. I’ve seen way too many near-collisions, only to look over and see the driver babbling away. You just can’t concentrate while talking, even if it’s hands-free. I’m a little disappointed in Tom Terrific.
Unless, of course, Jeeves was driving him back to the estate. Pinot noir and camembert, anyone?
Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.
by LegendaryTadpole on Dec 14, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
no, I actually wasn't serious. That was an attempt at humor
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 14, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
i hope we aren't the better version of the 09 Steelers
D finally stepped up. I love Brandon M. but the kid needs to spent time in the off-season w. his “Thug school” brother ED Reed.
Nice to see Sanders and Springs back. i know Springs got burned twice (and he still refused to put Brandon M. under the bus, even though Brandon kinda blew the 40yard TD). but i rather have him as a starter over Whilite. 13 year vet> 2 year ROOKIE and the next worst Ellis Hobbs
Burguess finally did something. guess being home and AT benching helped him realized that if he didn’t step up, he would join AT nxt year @ Oakland.
and some players on the D should working on wrapping up tackles and not missing them
Yeah, Springs definitely is taking some misdirected heat for the bomb – that was Meriweather’s mistake for sure.
But take away that one play and you can’t really complain about the defense at all yesterday. If Meriweather doesn’t bite on the fake, then they might have held Carolina to 3 pts. They did their job and the only reason the game was close was because of mistakes made by the offense.
So I have a hard time criticizing the defense too much right now. Overall, they are still only giving up 18 pts/game (rank 7th in NFL) – and that includes the Saints game.
All the main problems on this team this year have really been in the offense. And by that I DON’T mean Randy Moss – he’s been stellar overall, even if he has had a bad couple of games. The main problem with this team through most of the season has been the lousy play calling – the lack of use of the many offensive weapons available besides just Brady, Moss & Welker. I’m hoping that the second half of the Panther’s game is a sign that BO’B finally ‘gets it’ – that he has Tight Ends and Running Backs who are actually, you know, good.
i was listening to trent dilfer on espn radio
and he said it best. the offensive is too simple. there is no complex schemes anymore to put Moss in a position to get explosive plays (except for the 1st half of the colts game). its just a simple scheme now.

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