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Bill Belichick Defends Randy Moss, Dismisses Panthers' Post-Game Talk

Bill Belichick spoke to the media during his weekly Monday Presser, and here's what he had to say to reporters' persistent questions about Randy Moss.

Q: A couple of Carolina players accused Randy Moss of quitting yesterday. Do you agree with that assessment and how do you respond to that?
BB: My response would be that’s a lot of conversation coming from a team that just lost another game.

Q: To be direct, were you satisfied with Randy Moss’s effort?
BB: Look, I said the same thing about everybody on the team. Could players have played better? Could coaches have coached better yesterday? Sure. Randy Moss has been one of our most consistent players since he’s been here. His production’s been pretty good and I think you certainly see that they way other teams defend him, that they must have an awful lot of respect for him, too, which I do. We can sit in here every week and talk about somebody who didn’t have big stats. ‘So what happened this week?’ You could pick out somebody every week on the team that didn’t have big stats – somebody in the running game, somebody in the passing game, somebody on defense. Everybody can’t have high stats every week; it’s impossible. We can always pick out somebody that doesn’t have them and say, ‘What happened to them?’

Q: Are we chasing this misconception when we say, ‘Randy Moss dogged it’?
BB: You can say whatever you want. That’s your job. Say whatever you want.

Q: I’m asking the expert…
BB: I just told you that I have a lot of respect for Randy. I think he’s one of our best players. If you watch other teams defend him, watch other teams play against him, they think the same way, other than these two guys [Chris Gamble and Chris Harris] from Carolina after they lost another game. I guess they don’t think that way, but they haven’t won a lot of games now.

You know how I feel about stats. Really, stats are for losers. Final scores are for winners and that’s really what it’s about. When we had games when I was with the Giants and we couldn’t hold Gary Clark to under 200 yards pass receiving and some of those were wins. That’s the bottom line.

The media dog has it's teeth firmly sunk into the "Randy Moss is a lazy-ass receiver" bone and won't let go. 

The truth is that no one knows what's going on with Moss - how he feels mentally and physically - except the people who know him best and are involved in his daily life.  Moss doesn't talk with the media (gee, I wonder why) but that doesn't stop writers from speculating and conjuring up some pretty distasteful scenarios - he quit on the team; he's getting back at Belichick for sending him home; his feelings were hurt and he can't concentrate; he's the same-old-Moss that 'plays when he wants to play'; he's jealous of Welker getting most of the receptions; he's bringing down the team; he's fragile...etc...  What is clear is that none of them are willing to give the future Hall of Famer the benefit of any doubt.

If Randy Moss truly were a locker room cancer, a dogger, or a guy that doesn't give it his best shot during practices and games do you really think Belichick would be keeping him on the team or be defending him so vigorously?  Are he and Tom Brady so blinded by Moss's raw talent that they can't see what appears so blatantly obvious to every single media member from here to Oakland?  Personally I don't think so and will err on the side of his teammates.  I think the reporters should lay off a bit, step back, and maybe rethink the running storyline it has pursued since Randy Moss came to New England - unless they're the ones too stubborn, too pouty, or too lazy-ass to change.

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I was hard on him for his play yesterday. But maybe I was wrong and it is just what it appears to be; he had a bad game. He’s human. It’s just like a bowler who averages 210 but has that one league night when he can’t bowl 170 if his life depended on it. If RM was a cancer in the locker room, I have a feeling he would have been deactivated like someone else on the team was. The game he had yesterday just happened at a really inopportune time after what took place last week. But I believe that he will be back to his high standard, probably as early as next week.

"Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory...lasts forever."-Shane Falco, "The Replacements"

by Ironman63 on Dec 14, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Believe me,

the crowd at our house was as frustrated with Randy’s play yesterday as could be and I’m not going to pretend I wasn’t groaning along with everyone else, especially after that fumble. Moss is an outstanding player that had a very bad game but, unlike the media, I don’t think it needs to be turned into a character issue.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 14, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the Media is angry

that Moss has been well behaved…they are dying for signs of Patriot downfall. While I am concerned I believe that Moss has too much pride to ‘shut it down’, especially when he’s in line for a playoff berth.

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Dec 14, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That reminds me of a bowling league I was in.

I don’t really bowl, but it was a handicap league and I was there because I had a really good handicap.

We had 1 star bowler and a couple good bowlers on the team, and me. Most of the time, I just got my average, and everyone else was their consistent best. Ever so often, though, those guys would have a bad game and those were the only times I would play way over my head (with my huge handicap – close to league max) and we’d still win. If they did well, I sucked. If they sucked, I could play well. It happens.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i read silver's collumn on yahoo and man was i annoyed.

First off he points to an article he wrote in may 2007..seriously he was just waiting to pull that shit out right when moss had one bad game. For 2 years Moss has done nothing detrimental. In 2007 he set the league on fire so Silver had to shut up about his article then, then in 2008 when Brady got injured Moss stepped up as a leader. Suddenly he has one bad game despite putting up great numbers throught the season, he brings up his two year old article…Seriously man how long did u tuck that away just for this day when u can finally bring it out. i hope in the next 3 weeks moss will just burn everybody and tell the media to shove it.

by lololol on Dec 14, 2009 6:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Those old Easter eggs smell worse the longer you keep them tucked away.

Silver always pulls that crap. He makes a prediction then points to it when he thinks it eventually comes true. He was slobbering all over Cutler as the best in the league. If he has a great year, he’ll pipe up with, “See, I told you so”, until then his prediction is just sitting there waiting for the right time. How about admitting that he doesn’t know what he is talking about? Doesn’t matter, he got what he wanted. He got people to mention his name. In the end, that’s what it was all about.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 14, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And it's too bad, because Silver is a very good writer

But his hyperlinks are always crap. And I hate his stupid altered song lyrics too. But then, just telling you that reveals that I do indeed read the entire article. I miss Dr. Z.

by Coach Bojangles on Dec 15, 2009 9:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When he interviews players

He’s insightful and witty. When he writes articles based soley on his own inane observations, he’s petty and shallow.

Sometimes you should just stick to your strengths.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 15, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Z was the best.

Hope he makes it back.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Dec 15, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some interesting stats and facts from Tim Graham....

…who is one of the better ones out there, in my opinion, of keeping away from biases.

A few quick facts:

    * Eight of Tom Brady’s 11 interceptions this year have been passes intended for Moss.
    * Seven of Moss’ nine touchdowns have occurred with the Patriots already ahead in the game.
    * But Moss is averaging 18.3 yards per catch when the Patriots are behind, 13.6 yards per reception when they’re ahead.
    * Through the first 10 games, Brady targeted Moss an average of 10.4 times. Moss averaged 6.3 receptions and scored eight touchdowns.
    * In the past three games, Brady has targeted Moss an average of five times. Moss caught an average of two passes and scored one

From here.

by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 7:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not anymore...

…and Moss, even though I do think he can be elite, is too old to go across the middle meaning he’s now a 1 dimensional receiver.

by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course he can still play...

…he’s already matched last season’s production in 3 fewer games. However, judging by the last 4 weeks, defenses have figured out how to stop him. Jam him and double him. The Jets managed to do it with just Revis. No way that Moss would have been stopped 2 years ago, or even last year, with Brady passing. Yes, a lot of Randy’s lack of production has to do with Brady not having his timing down, not making reads and not throwing to the correct shoulder. It also has to do with him being contained. Defenses have figured out our offense- beat up Welker underneath, double Moss, rush Brady- and they’ve succeeded if they’ve had the personnel.

Moss is missing a #3. He wouldn’t have needed a #3 a couple years back.

Also, he’s been playing injured so he can’t go across the field. He’s still to valuable. That means he can really only go vertical. If you have someone play cover and have someone over the top, Moss is taken out of the game.

by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It could also be other things

a) Bill O’Brien – why run one Randy Moss fly route that doesn’t work if you can run 50? Ugh.
b) lack of depth behind Randy – crossing routes lead to having your face rearranged by a strong safety. They just can’t risk Randy when there’s no Randy-like replacement. Even Welker has Edelman and Stanback who offer something similar.
c) Randy’s health – he was running those crossing routes pretty well when he had to in the early weeks, even when he had his sore back. The problem was it showed how risky it was when he got knocked around a little. And that was when people thought Galloway would work out. With no depth, Randy’s health is even more important.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

…but all of those factors are how defenses have figured out how to stop him. Injuries have forced Moss to run the same route over and over again and lack of depth means that defenses KNOW that he’ll be doing the same route.

by Richard Hill on Dec 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hate to think it

The Pats have become the old Colts – the “if you can shut down Marvin Harrison, Peyton Manning panics” Colts.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds about right...

…all offense, questionable defense. Stop the offense, the team loses.

by Richard Hill on Dec 15, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the answer ...

is to use your tight ends and your running backs!!!!!

The Defense is NOT questionable, though – 18 pts a game (including the Saints – their one truly bad game) – good for 7th in the NFL.

People keep harping on the defense, but it has NOT been the problem this year.

Even in the Colts game, second half -the reason they gave up a big comeback was because a) the defensive line and linebackers were depleted by injuries, had no depth and were completely exhausted by the Colt’s no-huddle offense and b) the Patriots’ OFFENSE couldn’t earn a first down to save its life.

So outside the Saints game, where they truly stunk it up on defense, most of the rest of the season the problems can almost always be attributed to the offense – and specifically the lousy play calling which, as this thread points out, had become all about just 3 guys – Brady, Moss & Welker. Too easy to gameplan against.

Hopefully the second half of the Panthers’ game is a sign that Bill O’Brian has finally figured out that he has more players on offense than just those three.

by mmmmm on Dec 16, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The issue with the defense...

…is just looking at the games against the good teams.

A dropped ball away from losing to the Ravens
4th quarter score by the Broncos (bad game plan as well)
4th quarter collapse against the Colts
Bad show against the Saints (bad game plan too)
4th quarter score by the Phins as they marched down field.

Sure, we win the games we should (apart from the Phins one), but we aren’t stepping up against the good teams.

Though it would help if the offense produced in the 2nd half.

by Richard Hill on Dec 16, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

in all but the Saints game

I can point at the offense and say, “Why couldn’t you get just one or two first downs late in the game?” Or, “Why couldn’t you convert just one of many, many chances in the red zone????”

Why is a game so close that a dropped ball makes the difference? Because the defense finally got tired and almost gave it up at the end? Or because the offense failed to convert in the red zone earlier or use up clock late and put the game out of reach?

Again – it comes down to points. Whether a team drives for a score in the first half or the second half is less important than the total score. In general, as games progress, the defense gets tired and offenses do tend to score more later in games. That’s where you need your offense to be able to stay on the field for at least a little while late in games in order to rest the defense.

Against Baltimore – they gave up 21 pts.
Against Denver – they gave up 20 pts.
Against Indianapolis – they gave up only 14 pts until late in the game when they ran out of gas (too many DLs and LBs were injured) and the offense could not get a single freakin’ first down at all.
Against Miami, they gave up 22 pts.

Those are not bad point totals to give up against ‘good teams’ – especially when you also subtract all the points that the Offense gave to the other team – don’t forget that most of those games you mentioned included key Brady interceptions and other turnovers that resulted in scores.

The fact is that this defense is only giving up 18 pts per game and if you take away the Saints game it looks significantly better than that. Less than two TDs throught the year separate them from being the #1 scoring defense. The defense has NOT been the major problem this year. The offense has.

by mmmmm on Dec 17, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually,

BB coached teams have a penchant for 2nd half defensive collapses as of late.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 17, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

saw that

but some of TB’s ints were kind of forced throws to Randy.
that int against the colts. the int against the bucs where randy waived his hands to get the ball and TB threw a redzone int

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 14, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Belichick on WEEI

Hoodie pretty much reiterates his response at his Presser earler today, during his weekly appearance on WEEI’s The Big Show.

How did he react to the disciplinary action? How did he come back on Thursday and Friday?
“Good. Good. I had a good talk with Randy and really, as we all know, he’s one of our team captains, one of the most respected players on the team, one of the best players on the team.”

Is he a victim of his success?
“I think we all understand, and Randy better than anybody, that there is a certain microscope on him. He knows that. It’s always been that way with him. This isn’t anything new. The big thing is every week, come in, prepare, go out, work hard, play as well as you can on Sunday, come back, correct the mistakes and move on to next week. I think he’s very professional about that. I feel that way, really, about our whole team.”

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 14, 2009 7:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you know who is a victim of his own success??

The Hoodie…the loss of our coaches has finally bit us in the rear

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 14, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Peyton Manning has had the same OC for 400 years it seems. Brady gets a new one every game it seems. :)

by Coach Bojangles on Dec 15, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I miss EITHER Weis or MCD

MCD believed in running the ball (check our rushing totals under MCD).

Weis believed in spreading the ball around to a zillion different players.

We’ve got to get back to those philosophies.

by mmmmm on Dec 16, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Moss shouldn't be blamed

Randy had some real success in the beginning of his career. He probably over-reacted to his situation in Minnesota. But looked what happened… he got traded to the Raiders! HA! Now seriously is there a worse punishment than having to play for Al Davis? I think not. It probably taught him to keep his mouth shut. I think he learned from that and playing for the Patriots has been a godsend for him. It’s just too bad he will end his career without a superbowl ring. He is a player who I think deserves a ring. Maybe he will get traded to a better team while he still has some life left in those legs.

by Matx on Dec 14, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

sent home

here’s what i think happened.
AT sucks, Burguess hasn’t done jack squat. Randy Moss has been producition and Guyton has been rather pleasant @ MLB for a undrafted player.
The Hoodie had said that week, that the players had to come in early and leave late in order to save the season and 4 of them showed up late. The Hoodie wanted to sent a message to the players so he sent all 4 of them back home.
I dont think he intent to sent Randy Moss and Guyton home. Just AT and Burguess. But you can’t sent AT and DB home and not sent Randy and Guyton home w.o looking like a hypocrite.

btw i read an article about how AT will be deactivated for the rest of the season…AT, say hello to nfl prison i mean Oakland

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 14, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I doubt Mangini will be staying in Cleveland

He burned his bosses, he burned the management side of things, he burned his coaching staff, and he burned his players, especially the senior ones. He burned the roster when he traded away the most gifted players (Winslow and Edwards). The 2009 draft class doesn’t look hot, either. In fact, Mangini’s tenure has no redeeming features, except for (maybe) Brady Quinn looking like an NFL quarterback. And even that was forced upon Mangini, who initially went with Derek Anderson and stuck with him for what seemed like forever until he had no choice.

When you can’t point to one thing that the coach has done well… well, there are other guys who want a HC position. Even Tom Cable got an upset win or two and performances out of unlikely players.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 14, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he did beat Pittsburgh ...

That single one thing was probably enough to keep him from being canned mid-season.

But right now it looks like Holmgren may come in and try to resurrect that mess like he resurrected the mess he inherited in Seattle.

by mmmmm on Dec 16, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True, but I'm not sure whether to put that as credit to Mangini

or just an example of just how horrible the Steelers can be when they lose Polamalu and Roethlisberger doesn’t play well. When the Steelers play badly, they can lose to anyone.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 16, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was a whole lot of bad football going on.

It was less about who did enough to win the game, and more about who didn’t do enough to lose it.

Kind of a “last guy to drown wins” scenario.

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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 16, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you are correct mathew.40

I’m also wondering if it was a covert way to give Moss a day off if his back is still bothering him. The press seems to have forgotten how many Wednesday practices Moss missed earlier in the season due to his sore back.

Guyton apparently came back in late that same night to watch film.

Burgess had arguably his best game on Sunday – so it probably worked on him.

Adalius? …. not sure what is up with him.

by mmmmm on Dec 16, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So,

who is going to defend Belichick?

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 16, 2009 2:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Against what?

Does he need defending?

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 16, 2009 8:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Other coaches are defending

Hoodie’s defense of Moss

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 16, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think so.

Four years plus of failing to win the big game is taking a toll.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 16, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's like what Brady said

after winning it three times so early in his career, he’s realizing just how hard it is to get to a Super Bowl, let alone win one.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 16, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It is very hard.

Especially when out of all your draft picks in a decade you can count the good ones on one hand, and you have not acquired ONE good FA out of all your attempts.

We are where we are because of decisions that have been made. I’m sick of covering it up and saying it’s okay based on appreciation for things that happened 5+ years ago. For me it’s time to demand better. I understand others don’t feel this way.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 17, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Are you tripping?

I can count 5 good draft picks in this past draft alone. And I’m sure McGowan and Bodden are flops from the FA market.

by Richard Hill on Dec 19, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not going to even bother anymore

If Babe wants to get the facts about Belichick’s drafting and FA pick-ups for the entire decade, there are enough sources online and in books for him to sort through. They are very good books too that include the whole thought process behind the drafts, especially in the first half of the decade, instead of just listing names and dates.

I’ve concluded that right now Babe’s just flinging stuff at the wall to see what sticks and enjoying his ‘rebel’ status. He doesn’t have to like BB, or like his recent FA signings, but there’s a huge disconnect when he can’t see anything good at all after the 2005 SB. Come to think of it, he sounds exactly like a bandwagoner.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 19, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could be MUCH worse

Look at the Bills, Jets, or Dolphins.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 16, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Could be.

But honestly, to me you either win the championship or who cares. Second place might as well be last to me. There is only one direction and one purpose, and any effort that does not contribute to reaching that purpose is wasted effort. But that’s just me. I understand others think differently. Actually, I enjoyed 1990 more than 2007, when all was said and done. Monumental failure is worse to me than just really sucking.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 17, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Bud Grant was a failure, I guess

161 wins v 99 losses & 5 ties
11 division championships
1 pre-SB NFL championships
4 conference championships
but ‘failed’ to win the big one in four tries.

(Ironically, Grant was similarly vilified by a lot of the press because he too, kept his emotions in check and information close to the vest.)

by mmmmm on Dec 16, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was.

How do you do things that well but manage to not get it done even once? Something is wrong with that picture.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 17, 2009 12:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL - the ball ain't round!

How did the 2007 Patriot’s win 18 games and still come up short within seconds of going 19-0?

Luck is a fickle mistress.

by mmmmm on Dec 17, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

How?

By having an O-line that came to the game wearing skirts, and a coach that told them how pretty they looked in them instead of kicking their lazy girlie asses.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 17, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's offensive to those who wear skirts

I’ve seen women who are more intimidating than the Pats O-line at the moment, and some of them were in skirts.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we've been failing a lot on 4th downs lately...

…we need to stop handing it to Morris with Maroney as a wasted blocker in the backfield. It’s not fooling anyone.

by Richard Hill on Dec 16, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ugh - that play made me groan

if it was Heath Evans as the up-back, and there was even remotely an element of surprise, I’d be ok with it. But with Morris? And the way Maroney was running? Just send Morris to block and give LOMO the damn ball!

by mmmmm on Dec 17, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Especially since in the last couple of years that'd be a play where Hochstein would check in at FB

If you’re going to piledrive it for one or two yards, actually piledrive it. Giving it to Morris automatically makes it 11 on 10 – Maroney’s just there to pat Morris’s back if he actually gets the yardage. If you’re going to run a blindingly obvious play, you may as well check in a guy like Vollmer to be the upback and run it with Morris or Maroney behind a 300+ pound tackle in full flight.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 17, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let Vince bet the fullback. He's used to going through people.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 17, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Noooooo

Didn’t Seymour injure his leg after running as a fullback a couple of years ago? I don’t want Vince hurt doing something out of the ordinary. Let Brace do it, or something.

Maybe that’s what AD has become – a mindless battering ram. Get some use out of him.

Or Seau. He’s hard-nosed enough to play fullback, and he loves the physical stuff. That’d be rather amusing to watch.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 17, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How about

Matt Light? He can’t play tackle and if he gets hurt who cares. Perfect for that job.

Fire BB.

by BabeParilli on Dec 18, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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