Offseason needs
by smileyman on Dec 14, 2009 6:42 PM EST
58 comments
Hi everyone,
I'm smileyman from over at the Niners Nation blog. The past several weeks Drew K and I have been doing a series of posts on the offseason, focusing on the draft as well as FA. We're beginning to focus on the needs of other teams in the NFL, and this week we're doing the AFC and NFC East.
As such I have a few questions I'd like to ask if you don't mind.
1.) What two or three positions do you see as the biggest needs for the offseason?
2.) Are these more likely to be met through the draft or through FA?
3.) Which college player do you think will be picked by your team in the first round?
4.) What is your cap situation like?
To answer these questions from the Niners perspective. Our biggest needs are offensive line and secondary help. We have Carolina's 1st round pick this year, so that gives us two picks in the first round. I imagine we'll address at least one of those needs through FA and one through the draft. There have been a few mocks which have shown Berry falling to our Panther pick--if so we'll grab him, otherwise I think we grab the best OT available. Luckily we have lots of room in the cap. I believe it's around $50 million or so, so we should be a big player in FA (assuming a new CBA is in place of course).
The views expressed in these FanPosts are not necessarily those of the writers or SBNation.
0 recs |
58 comments
|
Email
Print
Comments
I'll give it a shot.
1.) What two or three positions do you see as the biggest needs for the offseason?
1. OLB
2. DE
3. RB
4. WR
5. CB
2.) Are these more likely to be met through the draft or through FA?
1. OLB – Second-Round Draft (2x I think)
2. DE – First-Round Draft
3. RB – Mid-Draft AND FA (entire makeover. We have the 3 oldest RBs in the league)
4. WR – Late-round Draft and FA
5. CB – FA and mid-round draft
3.) Which college player do you think will be picked by your team in the first round?
I’m hoping that we trade up in the first and pick Derrick Morgan (DE GT), in hopes that he drops down to maybe #10-#15. I wouldn’t put it past us to get Jonathan Dwyer or Jahvid Best in the first round and get a DE next year.
4.) What is your cap situation like?
Not bad. We’ve traded expensive 1st round draft picks for cheaper mid round players so I think we’ll have some space next year. We got rid of Seymour to get some space. It all depends on what Wilfork is going to get paid.
Wilfork better get paid...
That D would be toothless without him – just look at the Jets now, versus their first few weeks. Especially given the Brace thing hasn’t quite seemed to work, for whatever reason.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 14, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hasn't Brace had a busted ankle?
And Pryor only got better while he was sidelined.
But yeah, we NEED Wilfork.
by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure. He might do.
I remember reading something that they signed that other rookie D-lineman off the practice squad last week, could well be to fill Brace’s spot (although Brace didn’t contribute much prior).
Pryor’s played well, he’s definitely showing the usefulness of having a very intelligent D-lineman.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 14, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give the first two a crack. I don't follow enough college football to rate the next draft class.
1.) What two or three positions do you see as the biggest needs for the offseason?
1. Offensive Co-ordinator – not quite a draft pick, but seemingly as important
2. Linemen, both sides of the ball – O-line depth (stretched this year) and D-line playmakers (not enough sacks, with the exception of Mike Wright, who is a backup!?)
3. Pass-ruoshing OLB – all due respect to Tully Banta-Cain and Ninkovich, but someone bigger and more athletic would add teeth to a pass-defence and make the secondary better.
4. WR – obvious need at WR, especially one capable of stretching the field.
5. TE – Watson’s coming off contract, and both Watson and Baker have been hurt at some point. At the very least a third TE could run as a FB or blocking TE or spell the starter.
6. HB – elderly backfield, and I wouldn’t mind a bigger slam-back hard-nosed guy to pair with Maroney, even if he’s only a Red Zone beast like Lendale White.
2.) Are these more likely to be met through the draft or through FA?
2. Lineman depth – D-line has depth in practice squad and younger players from 2009 draft; O-line will probably need a draftee or two, because teams might use a salary-cap free year to offer big contracts that are front-loaded to keep good players.
3. OLB – perhaps free agency, although Hoodie might feel burned by the Adalius Thomas/ Derrick Burgess debacle. Maybe even a high second/low first round pick, like Clay Mathews this year.
4. WR – if there are any Devery Henderson types in free agency, there. Really depends who is floating around in the draft pool, too – not a great record of WR picks, a la Chad Jackson.
5. TE – draft. Hoodie likes drafting TEs – Daniel Graham, Ben Watson, David Thomas, Garrett Mills. Maybe a second or third rounder.
6 – HB – draft. Cure to an elderly backfield is youth, and I doubt anybody would let a good young HB slide to free agency in an uncapped year – front-loaded long contracts would be fantastic.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Hah.
I like your OC call. I totally agree with it. I think Pees will be good, he was just given a new ball of clay and he needed a year to form it. Our Offense didn’t do him any favors (should have had more against the Jets (round 1), more than 17 against the Broncos, SOME production against the Colts in the 4th and should have finished the game against the Phins). Seriously, that 4th and 1 play where they have two in the backfield and they ALWAYS give it to the lead runner? Hasn’t worked yet. I agree. OC is our GREATEST need.
I would also switch Lineman depth with pass rush. I do think that Green and Wright are serviceable and Pryor and Brace still need a chance to show what they can do. I also think that the best D-Linemen aren’t going to be around when the Pats draft so I put it off to the next year when we can use the Raiders pick.
I would LOVE to get Henderson in FA. I was bored a while back and made a list of FAs (and some college kids) that I would like on our team.
WR
Jason Avant (PHI) – Growing into a solid 3rd receiver, or could be a reliable #4 (UFA)
Steve Breaston (ARZ) – GREAT receiver and is a great #3 (RFA)
Lee Evans (BUF) – It’s a dream, but he’d be a GREAT addition. (UFA)
Michael Jenkins (ATL) – He’d be a great #3 (UFA)
Brandon Marshall (DEN) – Another dream, but his childish antics have been tamed by a Belichick offspring. (UFA)
Lance Moore (NOR) – It’ll be almost impossible for NOR to keep all of its weapons. He’d be a great #3 (UFA)
Danario Alexander (MIZZ) – Great threat down field, would be HUGE (college)
Golden Tate (ND) – Would be worth a first rounder (college)
RB
Mike Bell (NOR) – Good Stable back (UFA)
Pierre Thomas (NOR) – Good Stable back (RFA)
Jerious Norwood (ATL) – Good replacement for when Faulk retires (UFA)
LenDale White (TEN) – Complements LoMo (UFA)
C.J. Spiller (CLEM) – Probably won’t be available, but is a monster (college)
Jahvid Best (CALI) – Has potential to be the next Chris Johnson (college)
Jonathan Dwyer (GT) – Another great runner with great size to complement LoMo (clg)
Toby Gerhart (STAN) – Nominated for Heisman, but unnoticed. Best back, IMO (clg)
OLB
Elvis Dumervil (DEN) – Huge stretch as he’d probably be their first resigning (UFA)
Shawne Merriman (SDG) – He’s already been replaced (UFA)
Needs to be drafted as a pass rush specialist, if we can’t get the above, in the 2nd round
DE
Needs to be drafted 1st round, if it’s worth the price
Derrick Morgan (GT) – Great rusher, great future, top pick, might drop? (clg)
CB
Leigh Bodden (NWE) – We need him back for consistency’s sake (UFA)
Terrence McGee (BUF) – He produces and would be good as the Nickel (UFA)
by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
Some background of the list...
…I was saying that I was tired of us getting players who were at the end of their career who only had 1-2 great years left (Galloway, Seau, Springs, Taylor, etc) and we needed to get the younger FAs who may not be the best, but they’ll produce well in our system. I think they’re all under the age of 28, except for Lee Evans.
by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Lee Evans signed a contract extension with Buffalo last season
it runs through 2012. So if you want him your gonna have to trade for him.
Linky thing http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3622918
Hmmm...
…I guess I used a poor website.
by Richard Hill on Dec 15, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
but in saying that, I kinda almost maybe sometimes wish the Pats had taken TO. Not even for production… but Terrell Owens, Wes Welker, Benjamin Watson, Randy Moss, Laurence Maroney just sounds so cool.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
He'd catch more than Galloway *gag*
even if he’s a little dubious catching-wise, he’s still a big-play threat that the opposition needs to cover. In other words… he’s a 3WR (vomit).
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 6:28 AM EST up reply actions
TO gets much grief
that he doesn’t deserve—though he’s made noises about wanting to come back to the Niners for a couple of years to finish out his career.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I just had it in mind
that there have been a few weeks that both Warren, Green, Brace, Pryor were all injured at the same time – not an ideal situation. Wright’s good, but he can’t play both RE and LE at the same time…
I like LenDale White as a complement to Maroney. He’s already had experience in not one, but two systems (college and Tennessee) where he’s the big back and he’s splitting time with a quick back, so there’s no problems on that count..
There always seem to be servicable WRs in free agency; Belichick whiffed this year but it’d be hard to do it twice. I still think GLew could’ve worked out, but it was an either/or with Galloway, and we know what happened there. Ugh.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 14, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I agree.
And I think some people will say, “But we have Tate as a #3 next year!” So I’ll preemptively say, “Wouldn’t you rather have Tate as a #4 so we don’t have to rely on him?”
Every good receiving core has:
1 Do everything receiver, including slants, deep, outs, everything.
1 Slot
1 Deep threat
1 Big target
1 Depth Guy
Example:
Colston, Henderson, Meachem, Shockey, Moore and others out of the backfield
Wayne, Gonzalez, Collie, Clark, Garcon
Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Watson, Gaffney
We have, currently:
Moss (for one more year, in my opinion), Welker, XX, Watson, Tate + Edelman
by Richard Hill on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's too bad Galloway didn't show his lack of game in training camp.
One of those strange cases where he’s good in practice and stinks in the game.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 15, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Hill
Something I didn’t realy think about last time you posted this list, but with all the talk about an uncapped year and front-loading contracts, did you look at any of your UFAs that haven’t had 6 seasons yet? I don’t have any of my research in front of me so correct me if I am wrong, but with an uncapped year, UFAs don’t become UFAs unless they have 6 years played if I recall what I read at the beginning of the season. Also will there even be RFAs in that scenario? It is not something I gave much thought to until these posts. I will have to think about it and look it up later.
That sounds right from what I remember.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 15, 2009 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I used...
This website when finding out which players are which. I listed UFA according to what the website said. Hopefully it’s correct, but they still have Lee Evans as a FA after this year, so who knows? Maybe the site hasn’t adjusted for the uncapped year?
by Richard Hill on Dec 15, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
You're right
6 years in the league to be an UFA in an uncapped year. I’ve been proceeding on the assumption that a new CBA will get done because it just makes the most sense for everyone involved (players and owners).
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I read something last week that was linked on the Yahoo NFL front page...
And it sounded like they were getting down the details of a deal – it even had some details, including a Jerry Jones-origined re-jigging of the NFL revenue-sharing deal. I had a rant at the revenue sharing thing before (how it rewards mediocrity because stingy owners can refuse to spend on their franchise, turn out godawful product, and yet have a guaranteed source of income based on the investments of good NFL owners of other franchises), and it sounds like those good owners – Jones, maybe the Krafts, etc – are pissed off and wanting to scrap or overhaul it.
Player payments and NFL revenue sharing between franchises goes hand in hand, so I wouldn’t be surprised if things are fairly far along in getting a new CBA.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
That's good
I’ll have to see if I can find that article. The nice thing about revenue sharing is that it guarantees both a salary cap and a salary floor. You can’t have a salary cap if you don’t have some sort of revenue sharing in place.
I do see where Jerry Jones is coming from, but I’d hate to see the NFL scrap the idea entirely as it puts a disadvantage to teams like Green Bay and Minnesota.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I think the Glazers in Tampa brought it to a head
They spend half of what everyone else spends on their roster and coaching staff, yet they’re sucking down everyone else’s dollars to do so. It must really, really piss Jerry Jones off that he invests all this money on a new stadium, good players, coaches and management staff, advertising, etc… and then the NFL basically takes a chunk of money out of his bank account to subsidise the Glazers, who just don’t seem to care about delivering a good product.
Can’t really blame the guy – if I put everything I had into running my business properly just to fork money over to some incompetent pinch-pennies because they’re too stingy to actually do a good job of running a team, I’d want to get rid of it too.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
It's welfare for billionaires...
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
True
It does keep the league competitive though.
Maybe a revised revenue sharing plan
Teams split all the tv money still
Right now teams only keep 60% of their gate receipts. The other 40% goes to the revenue sharing program. Maybe bump that up to 80% of the gate receipts.
Any merchandise that’s sold goes to the revenue sharing. I think this is probably the biggest sticking point for owners like Jerry Jones and Al Davis. I think a compromise could be reached on to make it a percentage of overall merchandise—maybe 60/40 like the gate receipts.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Competition
The balance is wrong in the revenue-sharing arrangements – gate-takings and merchandise-sales are directly related to the level of investment and wise husbandry of resources of the franchise owners, and they ought to reap the benefits.
As it stands, there’s not enough of a financial incentive to force owners to invest in the things necessary to make a good team. Team owners can behave like the Glazers and leech off everyone else’s profits by cutting spending on everything and trying to live off the revenue-sharing cash. In exchange for having an NFL team as their private little fiefdom, the Bucs get slaughtered every other week because they just don’t have the weapons to compete. Their ticket and merchandise sales are negligible, but the Glazers don’t care since they didn’t invest all that much in the first place. When anyone suggests that they’re just feeding off everyone else’s efforts, though, they scream blue murder about how they’re handicapped by being in a small market city.
The real problem is that is a pretty convenient excuse. Consider the Vikings, who are also from a relatively small market. This season, the Vikings went out of their way to get a big-name QB and market him effectively. The Vikings paired him with a top-line (and thus expensive) HB, and a solid defence headed by a very good (and ver expensive) DE. This all culminated in the Vikings putting out a top-level football product. They drew in fans, they sold out their stadium, and they sold a LOT of football paraphernalia (purple Favre and Allen jerseys, blasphemy). So it’s not all about being from a small market, it’s about making solid business decisions about how to draw in fans – and the best way is basically to win games.
Remove the subsidy (at the very least on merchandise and ticket sales), and you’ll force teams to invest in their franchises properly. It might potentially mean some franchises aren’t financially viable, but then, why should Buffalo or Tampa have a team they can’t afford when Los Angeles doesn’t? If Buffalo doesn’t actively market itself in, say, Toronto to draw in new revenue streams, that’s their problem. If you’re going to treat franchises like a personal investment (and let’s face it, that’s what most owners do) then you should treat them like it in all respects.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Gate receipts
are at least partially due to scheduling which is controlled by the NFL. The Browns didn’t sell out their game against the Chargers but they did against the Steelers. That’s because of the matchup.
I think I’m actually with you on the merchandising part of it. Green Bay merchandises everything—hats, gloves, napkins, mugs, etc.. So do the Raiders. Even though the Raiders field a lousy football product, their merchandise is generally near the top every year.
The other thing with the gate receipts is the subsidies that the teams get. The Niners are trying to get a new stadium built in Santa Clara and are running into funding problems. The league has talked to ownership about sharing a stadium with the Raiders (ugh), and in return they’ll finance a large chunk of it. When the league helps finance stadiums (which they do), they deserve part of that money back.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
awesome....
I really hope they do. I think SUSTAINED success with a salary cap is a much bigger challenge, it is what makes the Pats, Colts, and Steelers so impressive.
side note...
Anyone see anything on a rookie salary cap? I have been really busy this year and haven’t had a chance to follow the NFL news like I have in past years :(
I know a rookie wage scale was part of the offer that
the league sent to the NFLPA awhile back. I haven’t heard anything since then since both the league and the NFLPA have agreed to a media blackout.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Resign bodden, we can;t afford to keep losing good CB's. Also wilfork obviously
get rid of Adalius Thomas, maybe Springs, and some older defensive players. Maybe we can try to get julius peppers if he doesn’t sign an extension. He wants to come to a 3-4 team and was willing to go to the pats last year. plus bellicheck likes the guy. Better than jason Taylor rumors in my opinion. WR wise i think tate coming back is gonna be a great number 3, he has speed and can stretch the field the way we hoped galloway could have. We saw the impact of good rookies receivers this year and tate can have a great impact. Moving around the o-line would be great…Vollmer takes light’s job, light takes kazcur’s job.
Money money money
Cutting Adalius Thomas and Springs would still mean a cap hit – they’ve got multi-year deals and the Pats would be liable for the signing bonus part of the contract even after they cut the players; a fairly significant cap hit.
Add that cap hit to whatever Bodden would demand (he’d want fair money for a good year, so he won’t be cheap) as well as what Wilfork will command (8 million+ a year, and after every Pro Bowl vote and every great play, creeping upwards from there), and whatever ungodly amount Julius Peppers would want (Terrell Suggs got 60+ million, so go figure) there’s just no way they can make all those moves.
Simply: If there’s a salary cap, then there would be no way to fit all those guys within it. If there isn’t a salary cap, then there’s no way that the Pats would be able to afford all those guys in a 32 way free-for-all brawl for free agent signings.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Whaa?
Bit pessimistic. If anything, Hoodie’s stretched too thin at the moment – he’s basically Head Coach, head personnel guy (taking over from Pioli), head scout (Dimitrioff is gone), OC (taking over from McDaniels), DC (Pees? Psh), and official press liason (the cone of Pats silence).
Have other people take over some or all of those ancillary roles and Hoodie won’t have to be doing everything, all the time. I doubt he has time to sleep, ever.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 18, 2009 6:29 AM EST up reply actions
Extreme?
I think not. I’m just ahead of the curve. I suspect it will take a few more years of bad draft picks and ridiculous FA signings, along with a couple more historic chokes for the rest of Pat’s Nation to see the light on this.
Maybe Kraft will see it sooner. But he signed BB through 2012 before the 2007 spygate fiasco, and he is kind of cheap, so he may stick with him until the contract is up.
Fire BB.
Sorry
you see my opinion in that light. I no drinka da kool-aide. But many others do, and will for a while.
Fire BB.
by BabeParilli on Dec 18, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Whose kool-aid?
Nothing to be sorry about. There is definitely a vocal contingent out there who think he should have been fired after spygate, for flaunting the Injury Report rules over the years, and/or for some questionable drafts. That’s the kool-aid you’re drinking. My flavor is different.
I like the guy, respect his coaching ability, appreciate that he gives the Patriots his all, and believe he can still get the team to the Super Bowl. It’s a bit too convenient for you to label his supporters as just mindless lemmings that would follow him off a cliff in a heartbeat. Going against the tide doesn’t necessarily mean you see what’s ahead any clearer than the rest of Patriots Nation.
Keep the faith!
I wouldn't remove him
for spygate or the injury reports or any of that nonsense. While it was unbelievably stupid of him to ignore the warnings from the ego-maniacal and clueless Goodell I wouldn’t want him out for any other reason than him not improving or at least maintaining the team’s prospects of reaching the goal.
The only kool-aide I drink is the “World Champion New England Patriots” kook-aide. Whatever within reason and fair play accomplishes that is what I drink. If I thought BB was the best possibility for seeing that success I would not call for his removal. Perhaps you could convince me he is the best bet by providing a compelling case for that. I’m open to seeing where I have missed something.
Fire BB.
Uh...
he’s had an injured QB all season, his RB corps has been cut in half, he’s got a very, very inexperienced secondary, and the O-line, D-line and linebackers have all been injury-riddled, yet they’re leading the division and in line for a playoff berth. It’s not like they’re losing.
Maybe if Hoodie has an awful, awful season or two. But firing him when he’s still got the best winning record in the division?
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 18, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
And how
did we get in this predicament?
Fire BB.
by BabeParilli on Dec 18, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Too big of a turnover at once on defense
and yeah, some FAs didn’t work out. He drafted two linebackers that have been on IR – Shawn Crable and Tyrone McKenzie. WR Brandon Tate was injured and on IR. But Hoodie was supposed to know which players were going to be injured back in April before the draft took place.
The change in assistant coaches and coordinators over the years hasn’t helped either.
Keep the faith!
And my point is
his choices in these matters have placed us where we are. Injuries happen to everybody. The bottom line is that if you are making bad draft picks and signing chumps as FAs, then those injuries have a much more severe impact.
Fire BB.
By that reasoning, every coach would have been fired at some point
Take the Steelers this year. Same team, same coach, same players, management and situation as the defending Super Bowl champions. Yet this year they’ve sucked, mainly because of injuries to key guys – Polamalu especially. By that reasoning, it’s the coach’s fault for not doing… something… to compensate. Short of signing two Pro Bowl-quality players to every position (which is impossible, of course) there’s really not a lot you can do to truly guard against the possibility of injuries derailing a team’s season. That’s not the coach’s fault – the salary cap is designed to give parity; parity means that everyone ought to have a losing season once in a while.
The fact we’re disappointed with a 0.500+ season and likely playoff berth is because Hoodie is an excellent coach, not in spite of it. Seriously, you’re wanting to fire Hoodie after a season where it looks like the Pats will lock down a divisional champion slot? It’s not even a wildcard, it’s the best they could hope for.
Even if you make the case that every free agent signed sucks… they’re still in the playoff hunt. What more could you want?
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 19, 2009 5:20 AM EST up reply actions
And seriously...
You’ll take your Galloways for all the McGowan’s you get. TBC has been our best pressure LB. How can you complain about Bodden? Baker’s been injured, but he has promise. Fred Taylor and Shawn Springs are guys who can provide depth at the position, but can also pass on YEARS of experience to the younger guys. In case you hadn’t noticed, the entire team is younger. All of the experience left in the off season so BB brought in some older guys to mentor.
Maroney’s been a stud lately. Butler’s looking good.
Sure, some of the trades haven’t worked out as well as planned (ie: Burgess), but that’s why we rule the draft and have more picks than all of the other teams. We can utilize our draft picks (which are uncertain as performers as it is) on guys who may be a little better and more experienced.
by Richard Hill on Dec 19, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I hear Mangina is about to free up.
Dick Jauron is out of work.
Jim Zorn may be out of a job.
No end to head coach candidates.
That would free Belichick up to take the job up in Buffalo….
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 18, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
No he's kind of a vocal local
Likes to stir things up. It’s worth some conjecture, but not the level Babe’s providing.
He was all roll out the duck boats in the preseason, and now that his team isn’t doing as well he wants the coach fired. Reactionary.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 19, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I know, I've seen his posts...
…but anyone who offers Crennel as a replacement for Belichick needs to be checked for Trolling.
Fire BabeParilli.
by Richard Hill on Dec 19, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
fire BB??
you cannot lose all the good talented coaches around you and expect to be above the curve. BB is probably the top 3 best coaches of all time in the NFL. BB needs to hire effective but stupid coaches so they aren’t good enough to be poached by other teams.
We lost Weis and Crennal after the 04 season and the team sucked in 05.
We had injuries all over the place; remember we had bug eyed idiot as the no. 1 WR and Troy Brown as CB in 2006.
Lucky our coaches were smart enough to out scheme and upset the no. 1 seed and whining and crying and bitchin LT. and we nearly made it to the SB. (thanks D for blowing a 18 point lead).
In 07, BB made probably the moves ever to get Randy for a 4th rd pick and Wes for a 2nd and 5th rd picks, and blew the doors of NFL records and were 35 seconds from achieving perfection, (Thanks D and ASamuel)
In 08, We lost TB, and most of us thought we would probably lucky to get 10 wins. McD and BB used a QB (who never started a game in college) and Cassel got us to a 11-5 record only to lose to a tiebreaker.
Then McD leaves and our offense looks blah. What do you expect? WE CANNOT LOSE COACHES ANYMORE!!!
In hindsight, BB’s FA moves this year has sucked (except for Bodden).
you can’t expect the D to be good when they lost all the experienced vets that were in 08. its going to take time and i dont expect us to survive past the divisional game of the playoffs.
btw, i think Pees needs to go. he had an experienced vet D team in 06, 07, 08 and we blew the leads that we shouldn’t have.
sorry if this post is all over the place. i had so many thoughts that i had to write down.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Media requests: Please email patspulpit at gmail.com
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2010 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
