New England Patriots Links 12/02/09 - Moving On To Miami Edition
Bill Belichick asked how much of what happened on defense looked correctable and how much of it was the Saints physically beating his team.
I would like to think most all of it is correctable. I mean the majority of the yardage that we gave up was on a handful of plays. I think they had eight players for over 300 yards or something like that, not saying all the rest of them were great, but anytime you give up that much yardage on a handful of plays it's bad. But if you can find a way to correct those plays and not give them up all at once, you would be a lot more competitive out there. So the big plays were clearly the biggest problem we had on defense. Like I said, I'm sure we'll see elements of those types of plays soon because of the trouble we had with them last night. That really hasn't been a major weak point for us last year, but it certainly was last night. Did they do a great job? Sure and I'm not taking anything away from them, but we've got to do better than that.
Dean Pees asked about what happened to the defense on that 75-yard touchdown pass.
We just had a blown call, and it is. It was disappointing yesterday because it wasn't exactly a call that was a new call. It's something that we have done numerous, numerous times and we just had a player just...the communication was even there. We even actually had the communication and for whatever reason, he froze and it happened. So it is rare and we've been doing a pretty good job in the past of not allowing big plays. And the biggest problem in this game was, I mean, that's all we gave up. We knew this was a team that thrived on that and you couldn't allow that. That's how they...I mean, they live for big plays. That's how they beat people and it was very disappointing. In eight plays we gave up over 300 yards of offense. You can't do that against anybody, but especially against a team like the Saints.
Dan Bickley (Arizona Republic) Had this to say about the Cardinals after the Patriots whipped them 47-7 last December in Foxboro.
Bah, humbug. Here we go again. Four losses in their past five games. Four losses by 21 or more points this season. The offensive line is getting worse. Members of the defense talk a lot better than they perform. Their image and credibility are shot. A disgusted starting quarterback is telling teammates to look in the mirror. This is how a team peaks for the playoffs?
This could've been a statement day
A chance to clear their name
Instead, the Cardinals are going down
As the worst team ever to stage a playoff game.
In a test of their inner mettle, the Cardinals actually were worse than skeptics had anticipated. In a strange twist of fate, Matt Leinart was inserted in the game to mop up after his college backup had shredded the Cardinals' secondary.
TEAM TALK
- New England Patriots at Miami Dolphins: Series history, broadcast info, team connections and more. Patriots will be wearing their throwback uniforms (as opposed to the throw-up jerseys they wore Monday night.)
- WEEI Patriots Tuesday: Sammy Morris (6:50 min.), Chris Baker (7:40 min.), Bill Belichick (29:50)
- Tuesday Conference Calls: Bill Belichick (12:46 min.), Nick Caserio (7:01 min.), Dean Pees (8:32 min) Plus Transcripts.
LOCAL LINKS
- Karen Guregian says what the Saints exposed during Monday night’s mauling goes well beyond some clever scheming by the coach and blood and sweat by the players.
- Chris Gasper writes the Superdome was the birthplace of the Patriots' mystique and Monday night it may have served as its final resting place.
- Albert Breer reports that once again the defense wasn't up to the task.
- Robert Lee reports Dean Pees says it was the Saints' big offensive plays that doomed the Patriots, and here are The Big Eight Plays that did it.
- Monique Walker notes the Patriots are eager to leave that loss behind.Albert Breer points out that the last time the Patriots were in New Orleans wasn't for the Super Bowl, it was to mourn the death of 24-year-old defensive lineman Marquise Hill, who’d drowned in a Jet Ski accident on Lake Pontchartrain near his native New Orleans.
- Cole Wright reminds us at this point in the race, the Pats have suffered a minor cramp, a minor setback in their plans and exhorts Patriots fans to stand by your team and continue supporting the "Team of the Decade," because crazier things have happened before.
- Mike Reiss reports that in his regularly scheduled interview on sports radio WEEI, coach Bill Belichick explained why the Patriots rotated at left tackle in Monday's 38-17 loss to the Saints.
- Ian Rapoport reports that with just 19 sacks in 11 games, the Patriots rank 27th in the NFL and are headed for their worst season pressuring the quarterback since 1992.
- Michael Hurley notes that a short week is just what the Patriots need after that embarrassing loss.
- Mike Reiss looks at the positional groupings utilized by the Patriots in their 38-17 loss to the Saints and says the shift from multiple TEs was significant.
- Mike Reiss looks at and analyzes the snaps played by Patriots defenders in the team’s 38-17 loss to the Saints, and looks at where the Patriots rank in key statistical categories through 12 weeks of the NFL season.
- Mike Reiss notes his weekly reader mailbag was overflowing after the Pats' disappointing effort vs. the Saints.
- Christopher Price says Belichick backs Weis but won't discuss a potential return for the ex-OC.
- John Beattie notes Bill Belichick and the Patriots have yet to address a potential Charlie Weis return.
- Ron Borges grades the Patriots in his week 12 Report card. They're all in detention.
- Boston Herald Patriots Notebook: Dean Pees says the defense shouldn't be considered inexperienced anymore after 11 games; Belichick was disappointed for Charlie Weis and will address the subject later; No real answer on why Shawn Springs was inactive; Jerod Mayo says the defense has to play better in the second half.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Steve Wyche (NFL.com) Patriots' porous defense doesn't bode well for playoffs; explains Belichick's 4th and 2 decision.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB Tuesday Edition: I think I can speak for all of America today by saying, "Wow.''
- Dennis Dillon (Sporting News) Brady's bunch appears prepped for short stay in playoffs.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) There's no bigger week than this one in AFC East.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Jets brought in Yankee's Joe Girardi to teach Mark Sanchez how to slide.
VIEW FROM MIAMI
- David J. Neal (Miami Herald) Miami Dolphins' run defense must step up against New England Patriots.
- Omar Kelly (Sun-Sentinal) Here is a look at the key matchups in Sunday's Patriots at Dolphins game.
- Armando Salguero (Miami Herald) Dolphins defense needs new approach vs. Pats.
- David J. Neal (Miami Herald) Dolphins' coach: 'Our fans deserve better.' Tony Sparano said the Dolphins were not prepared Sunday and are not yet out of the playoff race.
- Barry Jackson (Miami Herald) Development continues for Miami Dolphins' rookie corners.
- Armando Salguero (Miami Herald) Miami Dolphins personnel dept. good, not great.
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The Patriots 2007 season is held up as a standard
but the Patriots’ Super Bowl teams all had a good defense. The defense kept the team in games by making interceptions, forcing turnovers and stopping teams on on third down to keep giving the ball back to the offense for another chance to score.
In 2006 the Pats were burned by the lack of quality receivers and remedied the problem the next season. Now it’s at the other end of the spectrum where the defense appears insufficient to handle the top teams in the league, and to do what worked earlier in the decade – physical play at the line of scrimmage, preventing big plays from killing the team like they did Monday night, stopping teams on third down. Going back to that tough, smart, all-around football player mold a la Willie McGinest and Tedy Bruschi.
Keep the faith!
Players with fewer physical gifts, that have to play smarter to compensate.
Now if Wilihite could only play smarter to compensate….
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 2, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Welker does it.
There’s got to be a way.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 2, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
An interesting parallel you've drawn between the Cards and the Pats.
But the good teams this year just seem so untouchable…
Also
It always seemed like those Cards just quit after they clinched the division. They clinched early and put on autopilot for the rest of the year. This was different, as the Pats have not clinched anything yet.
EVH+DLR=BFFr........ God I Hope So!!
Colts and Saints just find ways to win
The Bengals are having a supringly good year ,The Cowboys and Eagles are quietly kicking ass.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
The whole NFC East is overrated.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 2, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
Skins = Wasted Talent
Giants = Still riding the media wave from Black Sunday
Eagles = Can’t stay healthy enough to win anything, guaranteed to drop at least 2 games a season to horrendous teams
Cowboys = Has the talent but the players never play at the same time
True.
‘Skins players must turn up and just believe they’re cashing paychecks. They’re so vanilla it’s not funny, and a team with that many good RBs and a team that doesn’t throw interceptions shouldn’t suck that badly (see: Broncos).
Giants are lost without a super-deep running-back corps that means Manning never has to carry a team. Now he’s being paid big money and has to earn it, he’s choking. The D is struggling now they’ve lost the ability to control the clock by running it 110% of the time.
Eagles can never get healthy in their playmaking skill positions, and I don’t think I can name more than one or two of their linemen on either side of the ball. They’d be great if they could steal the Saints O-line and/or the Giants D-line.
Cowboys… they just never seem like a team when it matters. Even when they win they seem to struggle to gel like a team – all the other receivers get jealous of Witten, Witten gets annoyed at the RBs, the RBs get jealous of each other, etc. It’s ridiculous. I wonder how much is how Romo doesn’t command any real respect from his teammates because of his conduct both on and off the field. Nobody would dare do that in Indy or NE or New Orleans, because Manning or Brady and Belichick or Brees and Payton would chew their heads off.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 2, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
If Romo didn't choke in big games, he might command more respect.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 2, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
That doesn't help so much, either.
And feuding with TO when he’s pretty much the only reason you ever got a chance as a starter in the first place… really bright, Mr Romo.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Dec 2, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
It was a classic
middle-school girls drama. There can never be a group of three because two of them, and it varies which two, always unite against the one. In that case? Romo and his BFF Witten against TO.
Keep the faith!
Hah!
It was little kid’s stuff, indeed. Just like how Romo dumped Jessica Simpson, apparently – via text message on the day before her 29th birthday. She cancelled her birthday party to cry, too. Middle school all round.
No cake for you, Mr Romo. Not until you act like a big boy.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
I know some that would be offended.
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 3, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
The Saints might be untouchable
but I would hardly call the Colts or Vikes untouchable (and obviously not the Bengals).
The Colts have won how many games in a row with 4th quarter comebacks? They went on a stretch where they won 4 games by a total of something like 10 points? I know they are extremely talented, but there’s luck in that, too.
The Saints, though….man, they are scary right now. But let’s not forget that the ’01 Pats got thwomped by the Rams in the regular season. How did that turn out?
I remember that
That game dropped the Pats to 5-5. They ran the table after that.
That sort of thing isn’t that uncommon, though — losing to a team in the regular season, then beating them in the Super Bowl. The ’07 Pats were on the wrong side of it against the Giants, the ’99 Rams did it to Tennessee, the ’93 Cowboys and ’90 Giants did it to the Bills, and the Raiders did it to the Redskins in ’83 and the Eagles in ’80.
Actually, the team that loses the regular season meeting
has an overwhelmingly better w-l in the Super Bowl.
EVH+DLR=BFFr........ God I Hope So!!

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