New England Patriots Links 12/22/09 - High Praise For Mike Wright
Bill Belichick asked about positives from the game.
As you reviewed the film today, is there one thing that you came out of this game and said, 'That was something we did really well'? BB:I think there were a number of things we did well. As I said, one of the things we didn't do well is do them consistently. There are times we ran the ball well. There were times where we converted third downs, scored in the red area offensively; not in the third quarter, but in the first half we did.
Defensively, we had a couple stops in the red area, but not in the end of the game. Our short-yardage defense, that could have been better, but overall third-down defense was good. I think individually, along the line, like our vice on the punt return, I thought those guys did a good job. Not that our punt return stats were out of this world, but the vice on the perimeter guys was good. I wouldn't say either team had a great day punting the ball, backed up. There's some good plus-50 punts, but it wasn't a great punting day for either team on the long field. I think some of the positives there weren't consistent and then there were some good individual performances. Mike Wright had a tremendous game, about as good as a defensive lineman can play really. I mean all the things he did in the running game, passing game, pursued. He played a couple different positions. He played left end. He played nose. He actually had some snaps in sub. So individually there were some great things along the way, too.
Tedy Bruschi says the Pats didn't blow out the Bills, but style points don't matter this time of year.
It wasn't a blowout, but it doesn't matter how you get it at this time of the year. Just win. The big thing now is that the Patriots have positioned themselves well for winning the AFC East, and that's all they should care about. Having a two-game lead gives them a little bit of breathing room. The mindset now can be something along the lines of "If we beat Jacksonville, we have a bye the next week at Houston." Instead of going into the final week of the season needing a win to solidify a playoff spot, they have a chance to have that Week 17 "bye" in which they can rest some of their players at Houston and prepare for a first-round playoff game at home.
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino reports Rookie DL Ron Brace discusses his fill-in role against Buffalo. Plus, news and notes from the Patriots' Monday locker room.
- Monday Presser: Bill Belichick (19:36 min.) Plus Transcript.
- WEEI Patriots Monday: Tom Brady (23:30), Chris Baker (10:45), Sammy Morris (14:57), Bill Belichick (34:20).
- Patriots Today: Road win in Buffalo, Recap and analysis. (11:51 min. video)
- Patriots Locker Room Quotes from Monday at Gillette.
LOCAL LINKS
- Adam Kilgore reports Bill Belichick singled out Mike Wright to heap his praise on "Mike Wright had a tremendous game,’’ Belichick said. "About as good as a defensive lineman can play, really.’’
- Ian Rapoport reports it was heartening to see the secondary and the D-Line come together. "You become a real good secondary when you have pressure," said veteran cornerback Shawn Springs, who helped hold Bills receiver Terrell Owens to two catches for 20 yards. "It makes a huge difference."
- Ian Rapoport notes it was good for the team to get a legitimate win on the road.
- Jeff Howe comments on Mike Wright stepping up big time to fill the huge defensive void left by Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren.
- Monique Walker notes Belichick was asked on WEEI about his reported (from NESN) apology to the team for sending four players home from practice two weeks ago. BB's response: someone should "check the sources on that."
- Robert Lee looks at the Patriots' under-performing passing game and wonders if Brady's injuries have anything to do with that. Nah, Brady must be dogging it.
- Steve Buckley asserts that Randy Moss was needlessly and in some cases over zealously beat up last week, to the point that he was a sympathetic figure by Sunday’s kickoff.
- Mike Reiss tells us which players were awarded game balls from the Patriots' 17-10 win over the Bills.
- Mike Reiss looks at the snaps played by Patriots defenders Sunday. Bodden, Mayo and Meriweather played all 60 snaps.
- Mike Reiss looks at the positional groupings utilized by the Patriots in their 17-10 win over the Bills.
- Tony "Glum" Massarotti whines that if and when the Patriots do qualify for the playoffs, that hope is almost entirely contingent upon the interest of Randy Moss and Tom Brady being a far better and healthier QB than he has been for much of the last month.
- Steve DeOssie says "thank goodness the AFC East sucks" and issues his Week 15 Report Card.
- Ron Borges was stingier than Scrooge in his week 15 Report Card, eking out tiny bits of praise enveloped with heaping portions of sarcasm. The Borges Special.
- Boston Herald Patriots Notebook: Mike Wright earns high praise from Bill Belichick; Ron Brace did a solid job filling in for Vince Wilfork after getting pushed around a bit on the first drive; Tom Brady said Charlie Weis is still mulling his options for next year.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Vic Ketchman (Jaguars.com) How close are the Jags?
- Michael Lombardi (Nat'l Football Post) The Monday Tavern: does Childress have a double standard when it comes to Favre? More from Week 15.
- ESPN Video - Michael Holley and Skip Bayless on Randy Moss' post game comments to the media. (2:21 min.)
- ESPN Video - New England Patriots receiver Wes Welker, the NFL's leading target, sits down with ESPN's Chris Berman to discuss how the does what he does. (2:27 min.)
- Seah Leahy (USA Today) Rex Ryan learns Jets still alive for playoff race, discovers he's a Patriots fan.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) A look at the AFC and NFC landscape if the playoffs started today.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Explaining (or trying to) AFC standings.
- Judy Battista (NY Times) Troubling detours on the way to the playoffs.
- JJ Cooper (NFL Fanhouse) Predicting the playoffs: AFC race is all scrambled up.
- Fox Sports NFL Playoff Picture: If season ended today.SI.com Messy playoff picture with six AFC teams at 7-7.
- Michael Lombardi (NFL.com) Cowboys suddenly have reason for hope in December.
- Jack Bechta (Nat'l Football Post) Owners will embrace uncapped year.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Jets O 'embarrassing, irritating, frustrating'
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Bruschi's right
One more ‘must win’, then let the gas off.
There is no way that San Diego loses BOTH their remaining games. They could possibly lose to the Titans this week, but no way do they lose to the Redskins the following week.
So if we can win against the Jaguars, Bill should probably start Hoyer against the Texans. We will have nothing to gain from that game.
Yes, I’m dead serious. We need to rest and get healthy for this playoff run. Especially on both lines, Brady and Moss and Welker. If Taylor is ready to play, I’d give him a lot of snaps over Maroney mainly to get his timing back since our rushing offense is so timing-dependent.
Okay – bad form to look ahead past the current game. ‘Sorry. Let’s concentrate on the Jags for now. They will be tough.
Point taken, and I concur.
Thanks for putting the cart and horse back in the right perspective, though. This next game is far from won, and the Jags want it as badly as we do.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
It's a tough call
The Jags are going to be tough. They are a hard-nosed physical team. If the Pats can muster up the toughness to beat the Jags and stop MJD from running straight through our ailing front 4 (or 3, however they play it), and SD loses, BB is going to have a tough call against the Texans.
SD has the advantage of playing after us (4pm) in Week 17. They will know what they need to do, so the decision will be made for them. Conversely, the Pats will be coming off a tough opponent in what appears increasingly likely to be a bad weather (wind/rain) game. They can go for the win and force SD to actually play their last game against a tough, physical Redskins team. This could have its advantages if we face SD later (always a good idea to weaken future opponents).
However, if we go for the Week 17 W, we’re putting a beat up and very tired team out there for potentially nothing. Do I let Mario Williams run at Brady all day in a game that is likely meaningless? Right now, the thought makes me cringe.
For now, let’s see what this team can do against a decent, hard-nosed team. Hopefully BB will be faced with this dilemma next week, because it will mean the Pats clinched.
Good point about the relative game times.
But I would rather not kill our guys on the slim hope that the Redskins could pull out a miracle.
Besides – maybe Hoyer and the backups could beat the Texans? Slim chance, but probably as good a chance as the Skins winning over the Chargers. :-)
I'd like the chances of the new linebacker heavy formation milling around against the Texans
Schaub’s a great passer, but he’s shown a penchant for cracking under pressure/blitzing, both of which can be achieved by the new formation. It’s probably weaker against the run, but that might be a good thing against the Texans – encouraging them to run effectively encourages them to commit fumbles, too. Their RB corps is turnover prone (a couple of their RBs have given up as many fumbles in a quarter as Maroney has in his career).
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 22, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I will be interested to see
whether we put Springs or Bodden on Andre Johnson.
Johnson is easily one of the top 5 WRs in the game right now, and a case could be made that in a better team he’d be #1. He is tough as hell to cover. This is normally Springs’ sort of assignment, but Bodden has been playing so well.
Pressure on Schaub will be key.
Oddly, looking at matchups, Jacksonville looks to be less trouble than Houston. Moss and Welker (well, at least one or the other depending on whether they double/triple Moss) should eat up the Jaguar’s secondary. They are somewhat tough on the run, but if Maroney (or Taylor) breaks through the line, they are going to bust big plays through that weak secondary. You know Fred Taylor is going to be pumped.
And their offense doesn’t scare me. If we take away MJD’s big plays, they don’t have much.
Houston may or may not have more to play for in the last week. If they come in at 8-7 and still are alive, they do have playmakers on both sides of the ball that could make trouble.
I wonder if Hoodie will pull up another situational defence
and put Springs at FS. Springs + Bodden on Johnson. They don’t have a backup TE of Owen Daniels’s quality, so McGowan isn’t as necessary, so they’re really a one-horse town in terms of receivers. Slap two of the veteran, tight coverage guys and slap him around a little. Chung/Meriweather can rotate and blitz and middle-cover.
I also wonder if Sanders will get more time on the field because of it – he doesn’t bite on pump-fakes like Meriweather and he’s better at deep coverage than McGowan.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 23, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
just wondering
do you think that by brady starting against the texans he’ll get more experience. and maybe get better?
Pretty wins don't matter
I’ll take a 9-6 stinker over Jacksonville anytime
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
Looks like the defense got some balls
3 out of 6 game balls went to the Defense.
Mike Wright — 10 tackles (7 solo), 2 pressures and 1 sack
Tully Banta-Cain — Three sacks
Jarvis Green
2 out of 6 went to the Offense
Matt Light — put a hat on Aaron Schobel
Logan Mankins — Openned running lanes
1 out of 6 went to the Special Teams
Kyle Arrington -
What no game ball for Moss? No need, we already know he’s got balls !
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Mike Wright is a beast.
Why have we not seen more of him this season? Did he just benefit from playing against a less-than-stellar O-line and two sub-standard QBs?
It seems to me, though, like he’s always playing this way when he’s in the game.
Mike Wright's a tough call.
With Wilfork doubled all the time, Seymour doubled all the time, Warren doubled most of the time, Wright and Green weren’t in the conversation.
Green, while technically sound, doesn’t command the attention Seymour did. Wright is physical enough at DE to warrant extra attention, but he is one of the few that can spell Vince at NT. He doesn’t warrant the extra attention when he plays in the middle usually. If Brace or Pryor can get up to speed as the NT backup, Wright might be able to slide to the DE permanently and showcase his talent. He’s got 10 lbs on Green (though he’s still 15 lbs under Seymour), and he’s faster.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Pryor could also be a beast at the DE position (Seymour size)
He and Brace have some growing to do. Their sophomore year might be very interesting.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Which begs the question...
Why has Brace struggled so much? My guess is that NT is an incredible difficult position to master, both physically and mentally, and NO average to above-average first year player is going to excel at it.
I’ve really liked what I’ve seen from Wright. Though nobody is going to exactly fill the gap Seymour left, I have hope this platoon can more of less do so in the coming year(s).
I think the answer to that is the requirements hoodie has for his three linemen.
(C gap) Tackle (B gap) Guard (A gap) Center (A gap) Guard (B gap) Tackle (C gap)
In most 4-3 schemes the down linemen are each responsible for one gap.
In some 3-4 schemes the same thing happens with ILB doing gap control.
In Hoodies scheme, each lineman is responsible for two gaps.
The NT gets both A gaps, and the DE’s get the B and C gaps.
When you have 5 down linemen trying to blow you off your gap assignment, it can be very difficult to hold your position and gap assignments.
Both Brace and Pryor came from a single gap 4-3 scheme, and are now being asked to be two gap 3-4 linemen. Not as easy as it seems.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hence my point in another thread
about how rare it is to pluck an already-dominant DL off the draft.
The NFL offensive lineman are just so much stronger and faster and the blocking schemes are just so much more sophisticated than in college. DL who are used to just tossing bodies aside in college have to learn a ton. Its very similar to the way WRs who formerly got by on pure speed have to learn timing and technique and often dont’ blossom until their 2nd or 3rd year.
Brace will be fine. He’s a smart player and he’s got all the tools. But it takes time and experience.
Pryor's Wonderlic test was far above that of Brace
So despite his lesser physical abilities, draft-wise, he was better able to contribute as a rookie sheerly because he was brighter and picked up the system faster.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 22, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Brace also...
…heavily relied upon Raji at BC in the 4-3. Coming out of the 4-3 where he’s NOT the main DT, and attempting to switch him into the #1 NT is an EXTREMELY large change because he needed to learn how to be the #1 on the line.
Hire OC.
by Richard Hill on Dec 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
put him as a 3-4 DE?
Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!
He didn't play the DE...
DE-Brace-Raji-DE
I think Brace would really show himself in a 4-3, but all the playoff teams are pass first, which means we need to utilize the 3-4 more often.
Hire OC.
by Richard Hill on Dec 22, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
no i meant...can brace play 3-4 DE in the pats system...
i’ve seen the packers use raji as a 3-4 DE
Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!
yep
he played 4-3 DT in 2001, 2002 and 2003.
occasionally they have move him to 3-4 DE.
That Suh kid fron Nebraska looks and plays like Richard….hell he wears 93.
Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!
Brace practiced in the pre-season as a 3-4 DE
and may even have taken a few of his game snaps through the season as one, I’d have to check. But yes, he’s shown the ability at least in practice to play DE.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 23, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
He's shown up as a DE backup on some depth charts
Of course the “official depth chart” is never released (the one on the Pats site is by the PFW guys), so we don’t know what Hoodie is thinking.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 23, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Worst trick play ever
If you didn’t see the monday night game… you have to watch this
Then when you are done picking your jaw off the ground or picking yourself off the ground after a bit of laughing… just remember.. this is not a High School play and start over again.
Hilarious!
Why couldn’t the Patriots play the Redskins instead of the Jags this week?
Keep the faith!
yeah i saw that dumb idea...esp when they could have kicked a 38 yarder
al davis is a genius compared to dan synder.
2nd worst mnf game since the ravens/ browns game
Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!
oh god that was painful to watch
replayed it a few times.
I think the holder/passer signaled the snap too early – the kicker clearly ran over and turned to recieve (behind a wall of blockers) – but he hadn’t even got there when the ball was already snapped. The Giants still kept 3 guys to rush and the passer had no time so he threw a horrible heave.
Geeze if he’d had any arm, he did have one wide-open reciever in the left corner deep, but he completely underthrew him -and the TE #87 was wide open to the right with only one defender on that side of the field. A simple pass leading to the right would’ve easily scored.
Would’ve looked like a genius if they hadn’t executed so horribly and pathetically.
Zorn isn’t allowed to call the plays, but will probably take a roasting over this. Man I’ll bet he’s really loving the day he decided to go to work for Mr. Snyder!
I can sort of undertand the point of not kicking the easy 38 yd FG. The game was long over – this was just something to make it interesting. With no time left at the half, the risk of giving up field position on a TO was zero – so long as they prevented the run back for TD, which they did.
Gawd – I’m such a geek that I could actually break this down and make sense out the madness … I feel dirty. I need to go wash now.
Wow, that was ugly
That passer had to have balls of steel on that play. Who ever called the play, must not have liked him very much.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions
"You call THAT underthrown? I'll show you underthrown..."
It might be a cunning plan to show that Jason Campbell doesn’t actually have the weakest throwing arm on the Redskins.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 22, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Competition for worst passer on the team?
Is the reward broken ribs?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
They're hoping for a ticket out of town...
since Clinton Portis already got the season-ending-concussion-that-happily-erases-memories-of-this-season sweepstakes.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 22, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
I like Portis
can we steal Portis? Fifth-round draft pick, please.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 22, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions
How has Brace looked?
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
Big
Just kidding.
He’s short on technique, and could use a bit more strength training. He’s improving. I think he’ll be a solid backup next year, and a possible contributor the next year. If he’s in sooner than that, he is either doing really well or we lost someone big (like Vince).
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
He's learning....
…there isn’t as MUCH of a pressing need for his immediate emergence (as there was for Butler and Vollmer) so a year on the bench, next to Pat Chung, will do both of them well as they gain in size and experience.
Hire OC.
by Richard Hill on Dec 22, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Is anyone interested in doing a best Patriot of the decade tribute
like they’re doing on some of the other sites? Best Running Back? Best Wide Receiver? Best Offensive Line man? It takes someone with a little time to dig up the rosters and make a series of posts (maybe with polls, so we can vote).
I’d love to do it, but the year end push at work is killing me.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 22, 2009 7:00 PM EST reply actions
maybe i'd do best running back.
i’ll start now.
k so i guess i screwed up
i did best RB this season. Sorry. since i don’t know too much about the players early in the decade, i’m afraid i must pass this on to someone else(although i already posted it).
Here's Some
QB:
Bledsoe
Brady
Cassel
WR:
Branch
Brown
Moss
Welker
TE:
Fauria
Graham
Watson
RB:
Dillon
Faulk
Maroney
Morris
Smith
O-Line:
Andruzzi (G)
Kaczur (T)
Koppen ©
Light (T)
Mankins (G)
Woody ©
LB:
Bruschi
McGinest (DE/LB?)
Mayo
Phifer
Vrabel
D-Line:
Seymour (DE)
Warren (DE)
Washington (NT)
Wilfork (NT)
Secondary:
Harrison (S)
Hobbs (CB)
Law (CB)
Meriweather (S)
Milloy (SS)
Samuel (CB)
ST:
Gostkowski (K)
Izzo (LB)
Paxton (LS)
Vinatieri (K)
Impact:
Brown (WR)- Returner, WR, CB
Faulk (RB)- 3rd down receiver, RB, Returner
Vrabel (LB)- TE, LB
Any others?
I wasn’t sure of whether to put McGinest at LB or DE. 4-3 DE, 3-4 LB. He was LB for our Super Bowls, if I remember correctly?
Hire OC.
My List:
QB:
Brady
WR:
Brown
TE:
Fauria
RB:
Dillon
O-Line:
Light (T)
LB:
Vrabel
D-Line:
Wilfork (NT)
Secondary:
Law (CB)
ST:
Vinatieri (K)
Impact:
Brown (WR)- Returner, WR, CB
Hardest to choose:
WR: Brown (longevity and production), Moss (high scoring, huge impact) or Welker (puts up the numbers). For an “entire decade” perspective, I’ll have to go with Troy.
LB: I chose Vrabel. I wouldn’t argue against McGinest or Bruschi.
Hire OC.
by Richard Hill on Dec 22, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions

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