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Patriots vs Jaguars: How We Won


Prior to the game, I made some predictions seeing what the Patriots needed to accomplish in order to win this game.

1. We needed to contain Maurice Jones-Drew

2. We needed Tom Brady to take advantage of the Jaguar Secondary

3. We needed to keep Brady upright and give him time

4. We needed to Pressure Garrard into making bad passes

5. We needed to perform well in the 2nd half to keep the Jaguars from clawing back

 

See how we did, after the jump!

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What the Patriots Needed to do:

1. Patriots D-line vs Maurice Jones-Drew – Wilfork and Warren are banged up. Green is still recovering from his leg surgery. Pryor is coming off of his chest injury from last week. That means we can expect Brace to see some extra playing time this week. I think we’ll see a couple 4-3 looks, along with our 5-6 Dime Package (Boston Baked Blitz, as a Pulpit Contributor called it). Brace will be called in to take away some of the pressure from Wilfork’s ankle and, in the 3-4, give him some rest and hopefully prevent a worsening of the injury. Maurice Jones-Drew is a top 3 back in the league, not only with the run, but out of the backfield, which means he is the player Belichick will focus on eliminating from the game. If we can contain him (we can’t eliminate him), we have a much greater chance for victory.

2. Tom Brady vs Jaguars Secondary – Tom Brady is still an elite QB, even if some of his stats may be lower than expected. The Jaguars have one of the weakest secondaries in the league, yielding 7.4 yards/attempt. Opposing QBs have an average rating of 93.0, placing them 27th in the league. The only comparable team the Patriots have played are the Falcons and the Titans, both averaging around that mark in opponent QBR. What happened in those games? Very solid performances through the air and solid second half performances. The conditions will be similar to the Titans game, so hopefully we can put up a similar offensive output.

3. Patriots O-Line vs Jaguars Pass Rush – The Jaguars have 14 sacks on the year, putting them dead last in the league. To put that in comparison, our anemic pass rush has twice that amount. Despite Kaczur’s apparent attempts to lose the Colts game (low blow), we still rank 3rd in the NFL in sacks given up with 16. We need to give Brady time to throw and let the plays develop. Hopefully the Jaguars won’t buck the trend and won’t cause any issues in the backfield.

4. Patriots Pass Rush vs Jaguars O-Line – The Jaguars have given up 39 sacks on the year, placing them 7th worse in the league. We have 28 on the year, at 12th worse in the league. Someone will have to break and perform in this game. We NEED to have pressure on Garrard and force bad passes to his receivers. Adding pressure will take away their passing game and force them to hand the ball off to MJD and, according to match up #1, we’ll be trying to contain him. Hopefully we can force some turnovers to win the game.

5. Patriots’ 1st Half Offense vs Patriots’ 2nd Half Offense – This Jaguars team took the Colts to minute 60. We’ll need to perform as well in the 2nd half as we do in the 1st half in order to win this game. This match-up could also be called "Patriots’ 2nd Half Offense vs Jaguars’ Second Half Adjustments". Will we make the necessary changes in order to continue producing in the second half? Hopefully. I’m hoping for some no-huddle offense to catch the Jaguars with bad match-ups.

If we win match-ups…

…1, 2, 3, 4, and 5, we’ll win in a blowout
…1, 2, 3, and 4, we’ll win by around 10 points after allowing the Jaguars to get back in the game
….1, 2, and 3, we’ll win a close game as Mike Sims-Walker of the Jaguards will have a good game
…1 and 2, either team can win (leaning towards the Patriots), depending on how well Brady connects with the short passes and how our running game performs
…1, either team can win (leaning towards the Jaguars), depending on how well we capitalize on turnovers and how well we contain MJD
…none, the Jaguars will win

 

 

1. We contained MJD the ENTIRE game. We held him to 18 carries and 63 yards (or 3.5 a carry) and a long of 14. He also caught 3 for 35, meaning we held him to under 100 total yards. Mission accomplished. Mayo was on top of MJD forcing him out of bounds and keeping him away from breaking infield and downfield. We kept him out of the end zone and, despite his numbers being good for any player, effectively eliminated him from being the threat he usually is. In comparison, he ran for 110 against the Colts. Even with Wilfork out of the game, Brace, Wright and Pryor did a GREAT job of stepping up in the middle and preventing gains. They weren't being pushed around and pushed MJD to the outside DIRECTLY into Mayo. Our tackling was superb, except for the first half of the Jaguars' first drive where the Jaguar O-Line dominated the scrimmage. After we got into the swing of things and got into a groove, our defense was perfect.

2. Tom Brady abused the Jaguars secondary all day. Brady has played the top 5 pass defenses in the league recently and hasn't played a pass defense of the Jaguars' caliber since demolishing the Titans. Today seemed like we could do no wrong and the result would be the same as the Titans game. Brady went 23/26 for 267 and 4 TDs. That's a perfect game, regardless of his passer rating. He threw deep to Moss and Aiken, he threw underneath to Welker, he threw to his TEs, he spread the field. While Brady won't be facing any defense like this for the rest of the season, getting into the groove that he did was all good. He threw to 7 different receivers. Nice.

3. Our O-Line did a stellar job. Our only two penalties of the game were false starts by Vollmer which need to be fixed, but he made up for it with some impeccable blocking. Jacksonville had 0 sacks and 0 QB hits in the entire game. Brady had time to let plays develop and he made them happen. Vollmer stepped in where Kaczur normally plays at RT and Neal returned at RG. Everyone is getting healthy at the same time which means a great push in the playoffs is in store. Aside from pass blocking, our run blocking was stellar as well. Jacksonville entered as a top 10 rush defense (7th in yards/attempt, 11th in yards/game) and we ran ALL over them. The return of Sammy Morris and Fred Taylor were noticed. Great job O-Line and Running Back Committee. In the Red Zone, we converted 4/6, with 1 fumble by LoMo that should have been a touchdown and the other was at the end of the game as we ran down the clock. Overall, GREAT job.

4. On the opposite side, our pass rush was AWESOME. They had 7 QB hits on the day and 2 sacks. Apart from the statistics, as viewers, we could see Garrard making bad throws due to not having time to plant himself to make the throw. He threw two interceptions, both of which we converted into touchdowns. We need to capitalize like we did today if we wish to go deep into the playoffs. We won't be facing young O-Lines as we have the past few weeks in the playoffs so we need to translate these performances into good showings against good veteran teams.

5. What else can I say? Springs had a red Zone interception that ended a 9 minute Jaguar drive to open the 2nd half. We countered that drive with a 7 minute drive of our own to a) end the 3rd quarter and b) win the game with another Brady to Moss TD. We allowed the Jaguars to score on their next drive, but they knew the game was over and we ran down the clock with Fred Taylor for a final 12 (yeah. TWELVE) minute drive to end the game. While we didn't score a TD (and didn't have to), it appeared that we could have if it was necessary. Overall, a fantastic showing.

 

 

Stats of the Game:

Tom Brady 23/26 267 yards, 4 TDs, 0 Ints

Wes Welker 13 recs (13 targets, 100% catch rate), 138 yards

Randy Moss 4 recs (5 targets), 45 Yards, 3 TDs

Tully Banta-Cain 5 Tackles, 1 Sack, 1 Tackle for Loss, 2 QB Hits

Jerod Mayo 15 Tackles (almost 25% of all the Patriots Tackles), 1 QB hit

Kyle Arrington 3 Special Teams Tackles, Great Punt Pressure

 

What we Can Improve:

1) Vollmer and the O-Line need to limit false start penalties as a whole. If it's not Vollmer, it's Mankins. False starts kill drives. We're lucky we weren't facing an elite team.

2) Maroney needs to work on ball control. Even though it appeared he had the TD, there's no excuse for fumbling on the 1 yard line TWICE in a season, especially for a player we've been questioning his entire career.

3) Welker was the target of 50% of Brady's passes. That's not good, especially when we face teams that are capable of limiting him in games. We started to use our TEs early on, but abandoned that as the game progressed. We need to consistently spread the ball and spread it where the match-ups are to our advantage.

 

 

Overall, a very successful game.

 

Congratulations to the 2009 AFC East Division Champions, the New England Patriots!

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Nice recap

Game was a bit disappointing because everything went our way, save for the Maroney fumble.

by hythlodaeus on Dec 27, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

Should have been ruled a TD

the fumble call was bogus.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 27, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

You were correct

We did all 5 and we had a blowout

by Give Me on Dec 27, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions  

Great Post

The only thing that concerned me was the Maroney fumble. I could be wrong here, but he’s lost at least three that should have gone for 6 in the past 5 games or so. I think Bill did a great job by keeping him on the bench and letting Sammy and Fred do the job they’re here for. Maroney runs OK, but his fumbles hurt us. I still believe that the fumble against the Colts cost that game. Add 6 and they don’t need to go for it on 4th down late. On the bright side, at least Elmo’s stopped dancing. I hope he sits from here on out. Again, great recap!!

Those of you who think you know everything just annoy those of us who do!!

by Sully F on Dec 27, 2009 4:43 PM EST reply actions  

I hope we use Maroney and Faulk between the 20s...

…and Morris, Faulk and Taylor in the Red Zone.

Maroney is a shifty back, but he’s not dominant enough to hold control in a goal line pile.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

I wouldn’t trust him in the Redzone at all he has shown that he is not that go to guy all season once we get within TD range.

This was a great game but we have to get better at leaving points on the field it drains us. And you’re right Brady needs to spread the ball look for Welker & Moss to be double teamed thru the next few games.

by Jmee on Dec 27, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting the ball to the TEs helps

because they’re both big and fast, they’re genuine match-up problems.

If and when they start making big plays (they’re both returning from injuries, after all), other teams will be forced to tag their safeties or fast LBs on them, which automatically means a) less of a pass-rush, because their faster LBs are doing other things, b) less of a press on Welker and/or Moss, because their safeties are occupied, and c) less hits on Welker/Moss, and Watson and Baker can soak up some of the punishment on their big frames.

Red Zone issues? C’mon, TE fade into the back corner. I haven’t seen one in… I’d hate to think. They were money once upon a time, almost impossible to stop, especially if Welker is running on the same side underneath. Cover the back corner or cover the flat, can’t do both.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 27, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on all accounts.

I also think that our linemen returning to health will allow our TE to be utilized in receiving packages now, instead of as insurance blocking.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point

I think why our TEs have been so under utilized until this game was because of the OL health, if you’ll remember Watson had like 400something yards through the first 8 games I think, but then faded as the OL got hurt.

by Csigs on Dec 27, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The TEs have been blocking a ridiculous amount, overall.

With a nicked up O-line, especially injured Tackles, they’ve had to stick in close and seal the edge rush for a lot of the time, especially when faced with a good edge-rush team (Colts, Ravens, Jets, Bills, ‘Phins). With a nicked up HB corps, they’ve both had to fill that gap in close-in QB protection blocking in and behind the pocket, too, especially against teams with a good D-line (Jets, Ravens). And with no dedicated, full-time FB on the squad, they’ve had to do a lot more run-blocking than they might have otherwise had to do, in every game.

With only two TEs on the squad, that means a lot of blocking responsibility on only two sets of shoulders, and means Watson and Baker have had a lot of snaps where they’ve had to take on 300lbers and/or blitzing OLBs, which must take it out of them. Add in the fact that they’ve both been hurt at some point, it’s remarkable that they’ve had time to catch anything at all, let alone a handful of TDs each.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 27, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice job.

And welcome to the FP.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Dec 27, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions  

The Patriots played lightout today

If they can play like that; they might have a good shot to do big things at the postseason.

Because off Fred (and 99% my Jags will watch it from TV too) I root for the Pats this postseason!

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 27, 2009 6:22 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks!

Best of luck in your (hopefully) Tebowless draft! (Unless he’s drafted later, in which case it’d be more okay.

Pat White kinda screwed Tebow over by being worthless.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's hope so.

I hope Gene will act wisely in April. I have BIG trust/confidednce in him.

Life without knowledge is death in disguise

by Zoltan from Budapest on Dec 27, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Caldwell is screwing with his players

They worked pretty darn hard to get 14-0 and now they most likely won’t get the undefeated season. I’m not sure that was the wisest call.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Dec 27, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

No

I don’t understand that either. If you play your starters deep into the third quarter, don’t pull them when it’s still at close game.

by hythlodaeus on Dec 27, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you seen the reaction on Stampede Blue?

They are going nuts over the decision and acting like the Colts’ season is essentially over. A bit over the top IMO, but Caldwall really put some extra pressure on himself with this decision. He practically made a “SB or bust” commitment.

Check it out.

by hythlodaeus on Dec 28, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

they are going crazy

Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 28, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my god that was awesome.

Folks should definitely read that.

by mmmmm on Dec 28, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, they hate their coach, president...hell they seem like they r fighting each other

Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 28, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The players will feel the frustration, too

being held off the field is bad. Being held off the field and chalking up a loss because of it must be torture.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 28, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yep..Manning's face said the story

Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 29, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

and his post-game presser was painful to listen to

sure he towed the party line, but the disappointment was written all over him.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 29, 2009 7:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Enjoy that rental crown.

Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23

T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 27, 2009 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Last year was your rental...

…while Brady was running some errands for Gisele.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, last year was a vision of things to come.

Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23

T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 27, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Our defense is like your offense...

…both young and inexperienced. The difference is we have the players needed to become an elite defense, you’re missing pieces to become an elite offense.

Your defense is like our offense. Old, but with some young pieces in place. We’re able to start working on offense immediately. You still have to work on your offense before bringing more youth to your defense.

We’re ahead of the curve you’re working from and we’re going to stay ahead.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats not a bad assesment

Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23

T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.

by Patssuck456 on Dec 27, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad to know somebody read my fanpost

I’m FP’d by proxy. =P

Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.

by LegendaryTadpole on Dec 27, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions  

So you know how good teams beat weak teams?

Through the air.

You know how teams beat good teams?
On the ground.

The return of our running core is going to do wonders in the playoffs.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions  

Morris looked good today

and I’m not faulting LoMo for the TD fumble.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 27, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Well...

…even though it should have been a TD, there’s no excuse for letting the ball go like that.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 27, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

ahhh... I know

just felt bad for him.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Dec 28, 2009 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha yeah...

…I wish we kept playing him too.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 28, 2009 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a little tired of all the ganging-up on LOMO

Not really picking on you, Hill – but the talk radio has been ridiculous. Sheesh – they can’t pick on Randy so now its Maroney that they have to carp on.

The guy has had a bit of bad luck this year but overall he’s carried the rock 582 times in his career and only fumbled it 5 times. He is NOT fumble-prone.

And this last one would NOT have been ruled a fumble if the cameras had a clear enough view of the play to overrule the call on the field. If it had been ruled a TD on initital call it also would not have been overturned and no one would be complaining.

It is quite common for players to push the ball forward at the goal line, knowing that they just have to break the plain with possession. That is generally good technique – even if it is NOT what you do elsewhere in the field. In this case, it was suck luck because he was surrounded on all sides by players, blocking the view of the officials. If that wasn’t the case I suppose we would criticize him for not running through the pile.

Ultimately, I refuse to judge the guy on one play that was more bad luck than anything else. The guy has scored 9 TDs for us this year and only one was longer than 22 yds – so he’s been very good for us in the red zone.

The fact that he’s only had two plays all year over 17 yds, yet his per-carry average is 4.2 tells us that his beta is low. He very rarely loses yardage. That is way more valuable than a hi-beta back who has a larger average, but is just as likely to get tackled for loss. Three LOMO carries and you are almost guaranteed a first down. That is why he is one of the better backs in the league at 1st down conversions.

Someone who was at the game and close to the bench said that Maroney was very bummed out and pissed off at himself for a while after the fumble but that he then was very much back ‘into the game’, encouraging the other RBs and joking and talking with them. I think in large part his ‘benching’ was more about giving Morris and Taylor some much needed reps than any ‘punishment’ by Bellichek.

Brady on the radio this morning basically said as much that they really are not worried about Maroney at all and that he’s been a huge asset for them.

by mmmmm on Dec 28, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I completely agree

We have a stable of running backs. Bill honored LoMo with the start and a goal line attempt. After that, I think it was time (game plan) to give Morris some touches to get his feet back under him. Faulk had some nice carries (with Morris as lead blocker – giving Sammy more reps). Finally, Fast Freddie (who was questionable) came in to get some garbage time reps. We need depth heading into the playoffs and with LoMo’s Voltron mentality, he was happy to see that the other lion’s were fed. With only one rock and 4 active carriers, each guy has to make the most of his time.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 28, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with everything you say...

…except the “fumble prone” comment. Even if he hadn’t fumbled until this season, if he starts fumbling at the rate he has in the situations he’s fumbled them, he has BECOME fumble prone. I believe he can fix that, but past actions don’t always define and override new trends.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 29, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

What's your sample size?

Small number statistics can be used to re-label whenever you want. Based on the Carolina game, Randy Moss has butter-fingers. Okay, that’s an exageration. But a single season – and really here we don’t even have a full season of carries – is not really a large enough sample size for detecting chronic fumble-itis because we are still talking about just 4-5 distinct football events out of a whole lotta touches. Take away just one or two and there is no way you should say its a problem.

If Maroney continues to drop ‘em at a high rate next year I’ll reconsider.

I’ll stick with the longer-term trend for now.

by mmmmm on Dec 29, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

We've been spoiled thus far with Maroney (and Pats backs in general)

Seriously. At the same point in his career, Ladanian Tomlinson averaged over 5 fumbles a season; Maroney isn’t there yet on his whole career.

Look at the guys who have similar carries/TDs at the moment. Adrian Peterson fumbles a lot; so does Steve Slaton, Tim Hightower, Ray Rice, DeAngelo Williams, Ricky Williams, Knowshon Moreno, Rashard Mendenhall, Frank Gore, Beanie Wells, and Matt Forte. And before you pull the “but two of Maroney’s were on the goal-line”; so were two of Ladanian Tomlinson’s. It happens to the best of them. If Maroney were truly fumble-prone, it would’ve happened a lot earlier than what, his fourth season in the league? He’s just having a bad patch statistically, it happens to every player who has a decent-length career.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 29, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who do you think you are to bring reason into the argument?

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 29, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, my bad

I’m just thankful he’s not Steve Slaton – at one point in the season, Slaton had fumble the ball once every ten times he touched it. Something like 6 fumbles, 60 touches. And that’s from a guy with less TDs and less yardage than Maroney.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 29, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

just to gang up on poor Hill with numbers ...

Steve Slayton: 7
Adrian Peterson: 7
Matt Forte: 6
Tim Hightower: 5
Ricky Williams: 5
Justin Forsett, Laurence Maroney, Chris Wells, Fred Jackson, Jamaal Charles, Michael Turner, Knowshon Moreno & Frank Gore: 4

And a zillion guys with 2 or 3.

So Maroney is in the midst of some fine company.

The unfortunate, simple fact is, if you carry the rock (and Maroney has just under 200 carries so far), you are going to eventually drop it.

by mmmmm on Dec 29, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Those short yardage situations also tend to have more guys bent on helping you drop the rock.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 29, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially when your O-line isn't healthy

When you’re setting up for a run on the goal-line, you know you’re going to make contact and have to hold onto the ball during it – it comes with the territory. But when your O-line is healthy and dominant, they can at least control how much and from where the contact on the HB is coming from – glancing blows from the sides don’t really stop a HB from a yard out, so that’s what an O-line allows as a sacrifice for punching a nice hole through the middle.

But when your O-line isn’t healthy or dominant, like the Pats O-line this year has been for significant stretches, they don’t have that ability to dictate the contact. Instead of ‘allowing’ edge-rushers from touching the HB in exchange for blowing away nose tackles, they’ve allowed guys in the middle of the line to get arms, helmets and bodies on Maroney on the goal-line. Instead of having an arm-tackle from a flying outside OLB, he’s had the helmet of a defensive tackle to deal with. One’s obviously more likely to cause a fumble on the goal-line, and it’s not an arm tackle of a 240lb guy – it’s the head, arms and body of a 310lber. It’s unfortunate, but it’s reality, and it’s not entirely Maroney’s fault – it’s the bad luck to have a nicked up O-line for most of the length of the season.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 29, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair...

…no one in their right mind regards Slaton, Forte and Hightower as quality backs anymore.

I still believe in Maroney, it’s just that recently (and yes, some people want to look at long term, I’ll choose to look at THIS season) he has had some trouble holding onto the ball. That is a fact.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 30, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

compared to what?

You are missing our point. You say “he has had some trouble holding onto the ball.” And I say – compared to what?

Because compared to most of the rest of the every down running backs in the league, he’s been rather typical in that regard this year. So if he’s had some trouble, it hasn’t been atypical trouble. And prior to this year he was clearly better than typical at holding onto the rock.

What has been atypical, probably, has been how few fumbles the Patriots have had over the last couple of years. So maybe our expectations are pretty high. And hey, that’s okay. One certainly shouldn’t be thrilled about dropping it even once. But at the same time, judgments are relative and so you have to establish a context when making judgments.

by mmmmm on Dec 31, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Compared to how he was in the past...

…he’s been having trouble holding onto the ball. I’m not comparing him to any other back apart from himself. Fact: He’s been fumbling more than he used to. That’s all I’m saying. I don’t even want to compare Maroney to Peterson, or Forte, or any other back for that matter. Comparing Maroney of this year to Maroney of years past, he’s been having trouble holding onto the ball. How can anyone dispute that?

Yeah, we were spoiled with him not fumbling. But why is he fumbling now? He’s having more trouble now than he has had in the past.

Hire OC.

by Richard Hill on Dec 31, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Did my Laurence Maroney Fan Club lose members today?

My one complaint is that they didn’t give him touches after that… don’t completely kill the guy’s confidence.

by bbismyhero on Dec 28, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

he lost my membership in the colts game....i think he just lost BB's membership

Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 28, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless there's another reason for the benching and/or fumble

Although if there is, it’s likely to be of the five word variety – “Injury Report: Laurence Maroney – leg” or something. Hoodie’s so great at clarifying things, after all.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 28, 2009 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

more like injury report lo-mo- hands...from BB breaking it!

Oh come let's sing Ohio's praise,
And songs to Alma Mater raise,
While our hearts rebounding thrill,
With joy which death alone can still,
Summer's heat or winter's cold,
The seasons pass the years will roll,
Time and change will surely (truly) show,
How firm thy friendship... OHIO!!!

by NinjaZX6R on Dec 28, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure the 'other reason'

was simply to give Morris and Taylor extra snaps.

by mmmmm on Dec 28, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That too

but he wasn’t out on the field for special teams, either. He was being held out completely.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 28, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Which was returned by 'one-wing' Edelman

Edelman strikes me as more of a punt returner – sharp, good acceleration, shifty – than as a kick returner, where top end speed is what gets you into the end zone. Maroney’s run back kicks before, seems odd to keep him off the field entirely if the reason he isn’t at HB is merely to give the others snaps.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Dec 29, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

My take on why they won the game:

The offensive line. They dominated the Jags DL. Brady wasn’t touched and the RBs had massive holes to run through. Which prevented any double-double coverage schemes on Moss and Welker except once or twice – which is why Brady was able to throw to 8 different recievers. And the Patriots D was very well rested (TOP was 32:25 to 27:35).

Its as simple as that. Basic football.

by mmmmm on Dec 28, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

Nice Post!

Brady seems like he’s 98% back. He was poised and felt comfortable in the pocket. He had excellent awareness in the pocket as well, knowing if a defender is coming at him from the left or right, and making that extra step to give him more time. He was accurate like hell, and making quick, smart decisions that we expect him to do. He was making nice adjustments when there were blitzes, and made them pay.

I should also compliment the playcalling by either BB or Bill O’B(haha). They were mixing up the offense with runs and play-actions. That’s what we should do every week. We got 197(i think) yards on the ground, and brady 267. They also got the TEs involved a bit, but it seemed like they went away from the TEs late in the game. Overall, playcalling was a mix of runs, screens, deep passes, short passes. But you are right that we cannot just throw to welker all the time. teams will take him out eventually, especially if they have a guy who can take on moss one on one. good playcalling, but we need better playcalling.

Oh, and morris was awesome.

by patriotguy2 on Dec 28, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

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