Quick Recap: Dolphins defeat Patriots, 22-21
by MaPatsFan on Dec 6, 2009 4:17 PM EST
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For the first time in a long time, our New England Patriots lose back-to-back regular season games. And yet again, we come up short in the second half. There is no single play that typically loses a game. In this game, our defense was absolutely horrible against the pass. But today I will blame a 4th and 6 "go for it" for this loss. This is absolutely pitiful football against a division rival, a win we absolutely needed to seal up this division.
Yet again, we fail on the road. Yet again, hubris gets in the way of winning a game. Miami came up strong in the second half to take this game. Even without Ronnie Brown and the Wildcat, the Patriots still manage to screw this one up.
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Lots of blame to go around...
I think it is becoming abundantly clear that Bill O’Brien is NOT the answer at O cordinator
This offense just freezes in the 4th
We can blame the defense all we want but they were mostly clutch in the 4th quarter. The last three possesions of the Pats offense were 3 and out, 3 and out and INT.
Is it O'Brien or Hoodie making those 4th calls?
Either way, not working. Not the decision to go for it, but how to go for it. And the mix of run-versus-pass is all wrong at critical times – having a failed run and then having to call a timeout versus throwing an incompletion and saving one, or vice versa. Small things that cost games. Ugh.
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with his fumblitis, I can see the logic....
But I agree… we took him out and had the same result… turnover when it mattered
We lost because we didn't kick that field goal with 2:00 to go in the 1st half.
You know, when Brady first trotted out there before the 2 min. warning, I said to myself, "Oh, they are just faking it. Only a crack-addict coach would take a risk this early in the game instead of taking the easy 3 points. The 2 min. warning will come and when we come back from commercials Gostkowski will be blasting it through the uprights and we’ll have a nice two-score lead.
BUT NOOOOOOOO! God forbid we think in those terms! We’ve got to worry about BALL CONTROL AND HOW MUCH TIME IS ON THE F-ING CLOCK AND ALL THAT CRAP!!!! What a joke! Head coaches have the final say, so don’t kid yourselves. BB is 100% responsible for us not going into halftime with at best a 10 point lead and at worst a 7 point lead (assuming Miami still drove the field and kicked their field goal). Instead it was 14 – 10 and the ball game was wide freaking open.
This used to be the smartest team in the league in terms of clock management and not taking STUPID risks. Not anymore.
Take the points, Bill! TAKE THE BLOODY POINTS!
by Coach Bojangles on Dec 7, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
can i cry like tim tebow? bc right now the 08 team is better than the 09 team...and i'm not including brady
sorry gator fans…had to say it lol
horrible defensive play
and that brady end zone int hurt. Fire the offensive coordinator now. the play calling is a joke
The defensive line and the offensive play calling...
To me these are the 2 weakest things of our team. The defensive backs are having to play coverage for 10 minutes every pass cause of the lack of a decent pass rush. when we rush more than 4, we almost always give up a big play.
We need to figure out things in the trenches on defense.
My solution: rehire Charlie, get Romeo to come back as an assistant head coach or something and help sort things out on D. There are a lot of “technique” errors I am seeing every down, from missing tackles, to blown assignments.
After 12 games last year...
we were 7-5 with Matt Cassel. After 12 games this year we’re 7-5 with Tom Brady. Now we have to win out to avoid getting into a situation where we have to depend on a tiebreaker to win the division. What a horrible disappointment.
I really didn't see that coming.
Of course we are rebuilding the defense. Tommy B hasn’t been the clutch QB this year. Lots of forcing things to happen which have led to some big mistakes. Better tackling this game, so that’s good. LOL
Yeah
This is turning ugly pretty fast…I figured OK, they get beaten by the Colts and Saints, the top 2 teams in the NFL…The worst they’ll finish is 12-4, and still get a 1st round bye and a home game…
NOW, this is looking eerily similar to last season…They might MISS the playoffs AGAIN at 11-5, WITH Tom Brady. He is OBVIOUSLY not back to normal.
…and with the way they’re playing, WINNING OUT is no guarantee…but they better prepare to win out, because after last year, that may be the ONLY way they get in the playoffs…
and last year we were glad ...
that we are 7-5 with an inexperienced QB. I think we must accept the fact that this Pats team, even with Brady, is not super bowl caliber. We should be glad that we are 7-5 with such a horrible D, an inexperienced O coordinator and an injured fading QB. The fans’ expectation for this team is just too high.
The Pats management nickeled and dimed the players to try to save a few bucks (who could blame them in this economy?) But they got what they paid for. Even if the D coorinator made the right calls, they would not have the right personnel to execute.
where are the Pats?
I just can’t fathom where all the heart went. Is it me or is the fire gone from their bellies? Geesh.
Indy game was same song, same result
2 turnovers in the red zone in indy game, plus 2 failed red zone tries that left us with 6 instead of 14. Any one of those 4 vs Indy goes the other way, we win that one…
For Miami it looked identical… 2 turnovers in the red zone (1 failed fourth conversion, 1 turnover). We will never win turning it over like that in the red zone, no matter how well we play
This was also another multiple INT game from Brady
3 in a row now I think…. The 2009 Pats are starting to feel a lot like the 2009 Red Sox. No identity, awful on the road, not clutch, a bunch of bland professionals and heading towards an early play off exit.
now the pats have to fight for their lives for the division
they better get it together in the next 4 games
Could be worse, people
Raiders knocked over the Steelers in a clutch drive.
At least the Pats didn’t get rolled in the last minute by the Raiders.
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both
2 good team just losing it this year…at elast pats can still make the play offs but this is just bad
well
the pats suck @ D b/c they can;t pass rush and the steelers…well w.o the hair, they have lost but 1 game w.o him this year…he is the heart and soul of that D.
and i think the steelers have the worst o line ever…last year they gave up 47 sacks
It's a good run-blocking O-line
and Roethlisberger has questionable pocket-presence instincts. He loves to jaunt around the backfield and make throws on the run, which might be fine, but half the time he decides to run in the direction the blitz is coming from. He takes his own O-line out of play and runs into the teeth of pass-rushing OLBs. Quite a few of the sacks he suffers have nothing to do with the lack of a pocket – it’s there and it looks good, but he’s 10 yards outside of it and trying to play tag with an OLB.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Hoodie's been known to take vets who don't need coaching
This is the youngest team he’s had to deal with in a while, so they’re bound to individually and collectively make big mistakes. It happens. Hoodie likes vets because you get consistency out of them; rookies and second-year guys are faster and might come up with a big play, but they’ll be hot-and-cold. We knew going in that this team was young; we were a little hopeful to think they’d play like a veteran-led Belichick team, because quite frankly, they aren’t.
They’ll be better next year, and even better the year after. It just means we should expect some ugliness for the rest of this season (like we should really have expected all of this season, given their experience levels).
Too long being spoiled by Belichick’s schemes and vets who understand them.
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i'll say this now.
i’ve been really spoiled as a pats fan for this whole decade. i got so used to the clutch wins and dominating playing. fighting each and every game. i’m just not seeing that this year. i do miss bruschi, brown, vrabel, harrison, evans, etc.
here’s hoping they can pull out some wins in the weeks ahead.
Also, even though he got beat on the 4th and 6 throw Butler > Wilhite
He made too many clutch plays today for them to be overlooked by that one last one which IMHO was due to the lack of pass rush. When NFL QBs get the king of time Henne got today they will find the receivers…
hell...the 06 pass D was better than this years pass D
and that 06 pass D was bad.,..they were using troy brown as a CB
Good game Pats
Can’t believe we squeaked by you. If you’re gonna point the finger you need to point it at your pass rush. We double teamed Wilfork every play and still not enough pressure.
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison
... well you guys got one...
… the Dolphins had none, zero, zilch…
Two teams that lived by the pass rush! Where are they now? (the rushers, I mean)
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Our Pass rush led to a Brady INT
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T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
Warren and Green are both playing hurt
And this is about the time that Hoodie would have expected Marquise Hill to enter the starting lineup, had he not been tragically killed in that boating accident.
Cleaning house probably isn’t the answer, although I wouldn’t mind if Burgess and maybe Adalius Thomas found work elsewhere. They need contributors, and those two just aren’t doing the job. I definitely smell an oncoming draft of linebackers in the near future, though.
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in your mind
where ray malagua from usc and laurenites from ohio state good picks for the 3-4 def?
they had those two guys and didn’t draft them
i support that trade
u never ever see a team trade a 1st round pick for a 31 year old DE. the raiders suck and will do for nxt year..so pats get a top ten pick…which they can trade down a get a lot of picks from that.
It was a great trade
He came in via one first-round pick, gave Pro Bowl production for half a dozen, and then left via one first-round pick. It sucks to lose that production, but you really can’t fault Hoodie for pulling the trigger – he effectively got all that production for free, draft-wise. It means all Seymour cost was his salary. Goes some way to making up for any draft busts, past or future.
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It's not the D line's job to create QB pressure
They’re just meant to occupy the O-line. The inability of the OLBs to break rudimentary blocks and get pressure (Tully Banta-Cain and Ninkovich excepted) is on the linebackers, not the D-line. The fact that Banta-Cain and Ninkovich can get pressure suggests the D-line is doing okay – this is effectively Ninkovich’s first year as a full-time linebacker (he was previously a long-snapper), and Banta-Cain was a bust as a linebacker in the 49ers. If those two can get sacks and QB-hits, anybody ought to. Burgess and Thomas are just playing horribly.
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It makes me want to scream how bad thopse two signings was
we need to get a big free agent signing after this season.
If I had the choice I'd prefer a solid draft
It’s been a while since Hoodie picked up a solid pass-rusher in a lower draft round. I envy the Broncos, who’ve definitely got one.
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Maybe they would three years from now
but they’d still be rookies at this moment. They’d probably get the occasional big-play in a Hoodie scheme, but then they’d get burned for some – in other words, they’d just play like the Pats are now.
I don’t see how they could possibly contribute more at this moment than Mayo and Guyton are, especially since they are all MLBs.
Now, if you’d asked if I wished we’d taken Brian Cushing or Clay Mathews… thou shalt not covet thy rivals OLBs (but it’s tempting).
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All AFCE teams play hard on each other...
… regardless of records…
… and we all age a year or two from these games…
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Yeah, I didn't think the Pats would sweep the Fins this year.
At this point I think not being a road team or a second half team is just part of this Patriots team identity. Infuriating…
exactly
we were both 11-5 last year. No game is a cakewalk.
If i was a Pats fan i know we’d make the playoffs but be worried about playing awful on the road when u reach the playoffs
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison
you never know. Anyway....
the dolphins have a mighty tough schedule. Jacksonville, Houston, Tennesee, and Pitsburgh… ALL DISAPOINTING, BUT STILL GOOD TEAMS.
Jets have cincy, atlanta, and indy
we have bufflo and carolina
Garbage absolute garbage
34. Posted by patsfan1 Sun Dec 6 4:43pm EST Report Abuse
As a pats fan i’m embarassed of this team i’m calling for BELICHICK head i spent money for tickets to see this team in person and money wasted on merchandise and for what to see this garbage team. We need something new and fresh and young belichick brings this 2001 super bowl defense and offense it’s played out teams are cought on to what NEW ENGLAND is trying to do Moss is old and Brady which is know as tom Terrific is tom interception to me, bring in Hoyer we can’t do any worse i just wish welker has something left in him to go to a competing team and win a superbowl because it aint hapen with the PATRIOTS.
No one is themselvwes this year
Stupid calls by Belichick, especially 4th and 6. The 4th and 2 was understandable, but not this.
Tom brady not clutch
And the defense is in shambles.
... when you see a team sign Junior Seau (again)... it's obvious it's desperate on defense...
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Vrabel's dont nothing this year to say he'd make the team
so he’d just be another old veteran benchwarmer. We’ve already got one of those in Seau, and I’m not sure it worked that well the first time.
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It was clearly a signing in the hope to give the defence experience and an identity
I’m not sure if it’s truly desperation, but it doesn’t scream of complete confidence in the young leaders of the defence, either.
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yeah... him and Porter..!!
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i like how ur coach benched his a**.
i hate trash talkers esp. him. and he is a thug…he and his thug friends beat up a bengal lineman 3 years ago.
I want us to sign Jason Taylor after this season
Because I know he is old, but we need at least an average pass rush while we develop our draft talent
Oh, uh-hun..!
lol
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I'm not sure we need another vet
Pass-rushing 3-4 OLB / 4-3 DE is one of those few places where rookies can and will contribute straight away. Think of Peppers, Merriman, Clay Mathews or Brian Cushing. You can inject a great college DE/OLB and get NFL production out of them.
If they use a top 2 round on an OLB, they could reasonably expect that guy to be pushing for a start (even if it’s as a situational pass-rushing player) from day one.
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i hope they can get Suh from Nebraska...that kid kicked a** last night.
he reminds me of Richard Seymour…but i think he is a top 5 pick.
Uh, they're still on track for a winning season and playoffs
It’s pretty arrogant to call for the head of a playoff-contending coach, especially since you’re only pissed off that they’re not winning everything. The only reason you expect them to win everything is because of… what do you know, Belichick.
Shrug.
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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 6, 2009 5:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
well good game guys.
I’m pretty sure I almost had about 3 different heart attacks and I think my hair turned grey after this game. But it was a good one nonetheless.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions
I didn't have any heart attacks
just one big kick in the balls. Congrats on the game.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 6, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
... LOL!... you have such a way with words... LOL!
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"You know, I believe we have two lives. The life we learn with and the life we live with after that. " - Glenn Close in The Natural
well I can't understand the feeling but we've had some games this season
that were awful to see end. So I feel for you.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
It would be easier if they were just blown out at the beginning
but they get ahead in these games, get you feeling good, and then just throw the freaking things away. Patriots can’t win a second half on the road to save their lives.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Dec 6, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
No know what irks me the most?
I honestly wonder whether the Pats would’ve won two or three of those games if they’d taken Brady out in the last quarter and put in Hoyer. Not because Hoyer is better or anything, but because he is going to be tentative, gun-shy and scared. Why is that a good thing? Because he’ll look for his check-downs – running backs and Welker – and not throw long inaccurate balls to Moss on third down.
/end rant.
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Nope. I think we're very cautious...
… loosing to the Bills does that…
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lol if I had intentions to gloat then I would have started with a gloat-like comment.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
lol u have more class than the average bi planes @ their website...
they think they have a big shot of winning the division
I did before the season started but found it pointless after the games started
I don’t have a problem with the Patriots or their fans…its just too bad you guys are in our division.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, there is a lot of re-divisionism they need to do. if that is a word.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
it would make alot more sense
but i do enjoy beating the Patriots at least once a year. too me, i hate them the most. fans are better then the jets fans, but hate their team alot more.
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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 6, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
When an 8-8 team can make the playoffs
and in the same year a 11-5 team can’t, something ought to be rejigged a little. Whether it’s the playoff system or whether it’s the divisions, it’s not working entirely correctly.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
well I think the AFC West is becoming a joke anyway.
But that division makes sense. I think that the team that wins each division should make the playoffs regardless of what the record of teams are in other division. Its just showing that the NFL is becoming tougher in to make the playoffs.
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
lol I'm banned from there so I don't go over there anymore to see what kind of nonsense
they are spewing. Everyone hates the Jets and that’s one thing we all have in common.
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
well more like new jerseyers.
I doubt half of them know their team’s stadium isn’t even in New York.
Don't question my fandominium.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
lol yeah I know. its really not the place to be.
I’ve been there twice and I don’t plan on going back there anytime soon.
Don't question my fandominium.
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Nicky forever.
by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 6, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
lived there for 2 years
don’t intend to ever go back
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
lol probably a good call.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 7, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather be the worst team in the first half thatn the worst team in the final 2 minutes of the game
because that is what we are, the worst closers in the NFL
except for Bodden, all the other signings (except the rookies) all suck
and can someone tell me why Springs has not played all month?
forgot him but i hope he is back nxt week
WE NEED A RUNNING GAME!!…atleast 100 yards rushing for the nxt 4 games plzz
You need an O-line to run
I haven’t seen one in a Pats uniform, lately. The pass-pocket looks more like a hospital triage.
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Our lack of running game isn't because Taylor was out
It is the O-line and the coaching always taking Maroney out in the second after yet ANOTHER solid first half from him. Bill O’Brien is making me violent.
That's my feeling, too
And I also suspect that Maroney’s new-found fumbling issues is because he’s trying so hard to single-handedly get the run-game going, with such little help from his O-line, that he’s putting ball-security (once his strength) on a lower priority level than running hard, going strongly into contact, and trying to drag out yards after contact.
In some ways it’s more impressive than his 2007 end-of-season performances – then he was running behind 3 Pro Bowlers, after all.
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I am impressed with Maroney this year
He is playing with a lot of heart and its a shame we don’t give him more touches in the second half. We also don’t utilize him at all on screens which is retarded since he is one of our most explosive players. We did one screen to him and I think it went for 9 yards.
I don't get that, either
He’s shown he can return kicks and make big plays in open field, and swing passes are about as close to open field play as you can get. Ugh.
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yeah
sometimes i wish we had the o line from the bengals on running plays only. since i sadly live in ohio…get to see the bengals a lot, all their 5 starting lineman were guards in college or guards turned tackles in the nfl. and they haven’t used that fat boy andre smith at all this year
What makes this season so infuriating is that in some ways it is the opposite of last year
Last year the coaching did an excellent job maximizing the talents of a much less talented Patriots team than this years. The 09 Patriots are a more talented team than the 08 Patriots: The Secondary is better, the QB is better, the running backs are better and the coaching staff is handicapping the talent rather than maximizing it. The 08 Patriots played to their potential given the injuries and lack of talent on the squad. The 09 Patriots are infuriating to watch because they have the talent of an elite team but don’t play anywhere near to their potential and that falls on the coaching.
brady seemed pissed
he questioned his team’s commitment, and the fact that they can’t close out the games
he seems...
really disappointed or really pissed most games. very unlike the calm and cool QB that I know him to be. not saying he doesn’t have reason, but it is uncharacteristic.
makes me wonder about what he will do at the end of the year…
i Question this team too but Brady has some blam to this if their no receivers run or throw the ball away but don’t throw to the opposing team.
I doubt any teams would've bothered covering him, he was just playing that badly
So he wouldn’t even be a decoy, he’d just be a waste of a roster space and an eligible man on the field.
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True, and they were gambling on whether Tate would be okay
and he showed in two or three games more than Galloway did in the first half of the season.
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Tate went back to IR after 2 games
And had 1 rush for 11 yards. I think it was clear to the coaching staff that his knee wasn’t 100% yet, and rather than wait for him to heal more, they ended his season so he can rehab and get better. I am excited about his potential, especially as a kick returner
Don’t we have one now we couldn’t have done any worse keeping him, who has brady thrown to beside Moss and welker shut them down and what
Aiken, Edelman, Watson and Stanback
and I’d still take any of those guys over Galloway, even if they don’t quite have his pace.
Frankly, nobody would bother covering the guy. He dropped it in the open field as often as he caught it. A genuine third receiver is useful because you have to cover him, and Aiken’s doing a pretty good job of forcing teams to look for him – he’s made a few big receptions this season, in his first as a real WR.
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well..
He is too important on special teams to play WR full time. You really can’t have him doing both, because he will get worn down in the 4th quarter and not be effective. They need to sign someone to play special teams, but that would mean cutting someone or putting them on IR.
tate was gamble from the start thats why he is not here a bad gamble to me with a guy with knee problems
Only if you look at him as a short-term prospect
Randy Moss is still a fantastic receiver after a decade in the league. Knees take less time to heal than that, and plenty of guys have had knees surgeries and gone on to have productive careers.
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anyone notice
the offensive play calls are so predictable now. same play calls and formations of the last two years.
we need to stop being agressive all the time
certain times yeah, but now, we go on 4th down so often, special teams probablty expect the pun ter to run for a 1st down than an actual punt
well spoken aiken has come on but i’m still not to sure of him love Edelman but as for Stanback and Watson kind of given up on Watson some games you see him some games you don’t but stanback is new so he needs some time
Watson stopped catching passes when the O-line got thinned out by injury
they need him in close to keep Brady upright, basically.
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this team needs..
a CB opposite of bodden that is consistent…Butler is better than whilite but is hit or miss.Where is springs? bodden and springs at CB sounds good cuz we have 2 good veterns who won;t give up those 30 yrd plays. also we need a third/fourth reciever. Aiken is decent but we need edelman back, two slot receiever will allow brady to not just force the ball to welker or moss. Brady seemed off int he 4th quarter, maybe from all the damn hit he took even tho he wasn’t sacked. The O-line need pick it up. th final play the line broke down so fast and forced brady to throw the int. Also Tom need to stop making endzone mistakes..but that is more on bad play calling in the endzone, where we shoulda gotten maroney or faulk to pound it cuz those guys have it right now.. Pat still control their destiny and out side of the jags i think the pat can win them all IF they stop being a 3 quarter team and become a 4 quarter team. I hope belichick unleashes hell in the locker room after this game.
best thing about this game...
welker played his heart out. this guy can do no wrong.
Wana trade him back for Ted Ginn Jr?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Dec 8, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
If you read between the lines. Brady and Welker are not happy with the play calling. Offensive Coordiantor O’Brien needs to go. Dan Pees needs to go as well.
Aiken got very lucky on that play
and he commited offensive PI
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
I don't know...
If he was a defender, it would have been PI for sure. However offensive PI revolves around pushing off to create seperation, and he didn’t do that. Sure he reached over the guy to catch the ball but WRs are allowed to do that, DBs are not
good point
the rules do cater towards offenses
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
Good game BTW
Get used to seeing Chad Henne :)
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
I bet Ginn wasnt expecting that
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
lol I was happy about it. It further proved that Ginn isn't as worthless as some make him seem.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 7, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
he could be a solid role player
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
T.Lex doesn't want to be fed, he wants to hunt. Can't just suppress sixty five million years of gut instinct.
exactly.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Dec 8, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
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