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Head to Head comparison: Patriots vs. Steelers

Editor's Note: I must admit, this is not my work although I wish it was.  Mad, Mad Props to our very own NESilver for digging through the records and putting this fine post together.

New England Patriots (2000-2008)
Regular season: 102-42 (.708)
Playoffs: 14-3 (.824)
Overall record: 116-45 (.720)

Division titles: 6
Playoff appearances: 6
AFC title games: 5 (4-1)
Super Bowl appearances: 4
Super Bowl championships: 3

Records include…
Most consecutive wins in postseason – 10 (2001-2005)
21-game winning streak (regular season + playoffs) (2003-2004)
21-game winning streak (regular season only) (2006-2008)
Most points scored in history – 589 points (2007)
First 16-0 team in NFL history (2007)
Most touchdowns thrown by a QB in single-season – 50 TD’s by Tom Brady (2007)
Most touchdown receptions by a WR in single-season – 23 TD’s by Randy Moss (2007)
etc.

Pittsburgh Steelers (2000-2008)
Regular season: 94-49-1 (.653)
Playoffs: 10-4 (.714)
Overall record: 104-53-1 (.658)

Division titles: 5
Playoff appearances: 6
AFC title games: 4 (2-2)
Super Bowl appearances: 2
Super Bowl championships: 2

Records include…
Most regular season wins by Rookie QB – 13 (2004)
Longest regular season win streak to start a career by NFL QB – 15 (2004-2005)
Youngest QB to ever win Super Bowl (2005)
Lowest passer rating for Super Bowl winning QB – 22.6 (2005)
First team to reach six Super Bowl titles (2008)
etc.

Head-to-Head (2000-2008)
Regular season: 3-2 — Patriots
Playoffs: 2-0 — Patriots
Overall record: 5-2 — Patriots

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Hey thanks for the perspective

NESilver, I really appreciate your digging around to put this together because it’s been bugging the heck out of me where our writer friends get off trying to sell Patriots Nation a load of bull-hockey. What the Steelers have going for them is that they are the recent winners, and all ‘greatest’ talk hinges on them winning next year’s Super Bowl.

By the way, notice how the Colts aren’t even mentioned anywhere? The greatest-team-ever with the greatest-coach-ever and the greatest-quarterback-ever a couple of years ago has suddenly become irrelevant to the press. Guess the ‘mighty’ Steelers, Mike Tomlin, and Big Ben have replaced everyone as the media darlings du jour.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 3, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Happy to help

Truthfully, I got some of this stuff from a message board I frequent, and took the liberty of correcting and adding some things to give us a bigger picture. Just thought it’d be good to put it up on the Pulpit. Also, I’m not as well-versed in the Steelers NFL records, so if anyone (perhaps a Steelers fan lurking around here?) wants to add anything I missed to that, feel free. I just put down what I knew.

As it stands, the Patriots are still the team of the decade. The last time I checked, three Super Bowl titles are better than two. However, if the Steelers win next year, the two teams would be tied – the Patriots dominating the first half of the decade and Pittsburgh owning the second half.

So what’s the tiebreaker? I would look at overall accomplishments and head-to-head matchups. The Patriots have better records in the regular season and playoffs, more Super Bowl appearances, the two longest winning streaks in NFL history, and they’ve beaten the Steelers twice on their own turf in AFC Championship games on the road to two of their three SB wins. The Steelers, on the other hand, never went through the Pats in order to win either of their titles.

Pittsburgh is the closest competition for the Pats to claim they are the team of the decade, but I still think the Pats have it all but locked up, though it’d be awesome if Brady could come back and lead the team to one more Super Bowl just to remove ANY doubts at all.

by NESilver on Feb 3, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

You've got to admit

“Team of the Decade” is a consolation prize compared with “Best in the NFL.”

I think, objectively speaking, that you have to give the Steelers credit for that. Under the Rooneys and beginning with Chuck Noll, they’ve fielded consistently competitive teams for over three decades. We should check back in in 2020.

Naturally, I’d love nothing more than winning the league in 10. 4 in a decade would put our franchise in the same conversation with the Steelers. Arguably it’s harder to remain consistent now than it was in the 70’s and 80’s. But 6 is a lot, and you can point to the Steelers last two (though in deference to my Seattle friends, that game — and the playoffs that led to it — were the first solid indication of the NFL’s officiating and rules crisis, which continues).

The Krafts have created a model for the new era, and we’ve seen a team for the decade. Longevity is the true test, though, and I for one am happy to remain spoiled.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Feb 4, 2009 7:37 AM EST reply actions  

I give all the credit to the world to the Steelers for consistently fielding good teams over the years. In some ways their fans don’t know how good they have it.

Although honestly I think the karma with that situation is keeping the Pirates down ;-)

"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

by Mainiac on Feb 4, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Steelers also have Youngest Head Coach to win a SB.

I still think yall are the team of the decade.

The only thing would be if Pittsburgh beat New England in the playoffs and won the superbowl next year….which is a VERY, VERY big IF.

I'll drink your Milkshake, I'll drink it up!

by Frank Mineo (DYMS) on Feb 5, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

That's what makes this game so great

The paid ‘experts’ on TV have as much insight (or worse) as every other bozo on the bus when it comes to picking the Super Bowl winners — or even the participants. Remember the all-Jersey Bowl that was supposed to happen? Or Panthers – Titans? I even think Buffalo was brought up as a contender, as well as the perennial Chargers pick, but you all weren’t even mentioned.

It probably fries the heck out of them for being wrong too. : ) We have Marshall Faulk on tape after pre-season saying that Matt Cassel couldn’t win a game in the NFL if Tom Brady went down and the Patriots had a lead.

That’s why they play, that’s what makes every game so compelling to watch.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

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