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2 > 1; Or, Another Way to Think About the Ellis Hobbs Trade

When I first heard  that Ellis Hobbs was traded to the Eagles and for "just" two 5th round picks, I was surprised. But looking at the deal more closely, it now seems to me that this trade makes even more sense and shows--yet again--why the Patriots are miles ahead of most other NFL teams when it comes to managing their roster.

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It seems pretty clear now that the Patriots coaches don't see Hobbs figuring into their plans in 2009. Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs were clearly signed to be starters at cornerback and the team seems to expect big things from second year men Terrance Wheatley and Jonathan Wilhite. When the Pats got the corner they apparently coveted in this year's draft, Darius Butler, there was just no room for Hobbs and his $2.54 million cap charge. With those five expected to handle the corners this year, Hobbs projected as a backup and a kick returner. And $2.54 mil is a little pricey for a backup corner, especially when there are others around to return kicks. So, exit Hobbs, to the Eagles for two 5th round picks which were swapped to Baltimore for the 4th rounder that became offensive lineman Rich Orhnberger.

But there is likely more behind the deal than simply a look at the depth chart and the economics of the salary cap. Hobbs was one of the many Patriots whose contract was up at the end of 2009. With so many other priorities to re-sign, the Patriots would not have been able to keep Hobbs and he would have gone to another team as a free agent.

This would have meant that New England would get a compensatory pick in the 2011 draft---but almost certainly not a 3rd rounder like they got for Asante Samuel. Probably, Hobbs would have fetched a 4th or, more likely, a 5th round compensatory pick.

So, here's what Bill Belichick did: figuring that Hobbs would no longer be a starter and was not a player New England had to have for 2009, and figuring that the Pats would lose Hobbs at the end of 2009 anyway, and figuring that they would likely get only a single 5th round compensatory pick--he traded him away for TWO 5th rounders which--unlike NFL-assigned compensatory picks--can be and were traded away. 2 > 1.

In essence. Belichick traded a player he didn't need and wouldn't be able to keep beyond 2009 for two 5th round picks instead of the single 5th round compensatory pick he wouldn't have gotten until 2011. Two draft picks are better than one, 2009 picks are better than a 2011 pick, and the draft choice that resulted from trading the 5th rounders is a solid interior offensive line product to be developed by the best offensive line coach in the league, Dante Scarnecchia.

Smart, smart, smart. And further proof that Belichick and the Patriots are just plain better at what they do than anybody else in the NFL.

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Value in time

I agree that the Hobbs deal was definitely about getting value while you could. I’m not certain he would be out of the starting picture if he was still on the team – I would say starting jobs were a threeway competition between Hobbs, Bodden and Springs – but it would be hard to retain both rookies from last year.

I think it was pretty clear that Hobbs would not be retained next year. Mike Reiss put it well when he said that Hobbs and the team had different opinions of his worth. It was just smarter to move him before he made contract demands that would definitely not be met.

by hythlodaeus on May 3, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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I agree that the Hobbs deal was definitely about getting value while you could

Well said. Like Cassel, the Patriots organization did what they needed to do in order to maximize value to the team and to the player. Hobbs may not see the latter, but it’s there.

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by MaPatsFan on May 3, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I think Hobb has handled the whole thing very well. He spoke his mind, as he does, and he was surprised, so were we! but he didn’t take any parting shots at the organization or Belichick.

by hythlodaeus on May 3, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say what you will about Hobbs being overmatched

but he never gave up on a play, and was one of the hardest working players on the team.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on May 3, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked Hobbs, too

I know he played hurt and that diminished what he could do somewhat and I’ll always remember his 108 yard kickoff return to start the second half of the 2007 season opener against the Jets. It jump-started what would be a record-breaking season all around. I’ll miss him and wish him well in Philadelphia—maybe we’ll see Hobbs and Asante in the Super Bowl next year against the Eagles. But the Patriots are never sentimental and when they decide a guy is done, he’s gone. Let’s just hope that of the five remaining cornerbacks (six if Mike Richardson is still around) that there aren’t too many injuries next year like there always seem to be. That’s where Hobbs might be missed—for insurance and depth.

by ProfessorTodd on May 3, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3rd

Hobbs is running as the 3rd corner at Eagles camp.
He was our #1 last season.
Pats definitely needed a secondary upgrade.
Why didn’t a Hobbs for Brown swap happen??

by wdogg72 on May 13, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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