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Around the AFC East, Week 4: Miami Dolphins

Here we go, gang.  To start off this weeks installment of Around the AFC East, we first chat it up with Matty I from The Phinsider who gives us a Dolphins' fan viewpoint on the "trash talking" coming out of Miami.

Both Channing Crowder and Joey Porter have been very vocal about the Dolphins' status as Divisional Champions with Porter stating, "The road to the AFC East title goes through Miami."  Do Miami fans feel the same way?  Are Crowder and Porter playing the disrespect card or is there truly reason to feel disrespected?  Finally, NE places what I would call a "gag order" on its players, restricting what they say in the media.  Does Sparano have a different approach, allowing his players to be more vocal?

Let me answer the second part first.  I don’t think there’s any "gag order" on the players in Miami.  But Tony Sparano, Jeff Ireland, and Bill Parcells clearly let them know when they are crossing any lines.  But they do that behind closed doors – a la Channing Crowder’s latest comments.  But, in general, the front office and coaching staff seem to let these guys say what they want – assuming it isn’t too outlandish.

As far as the comments guys like Crowder and Joey Porter are making about the division going through Miami, I think they are doing nothing else but stating a fact.  When a team wins the division, they are the team to beat the following season – at least until the regular season gets underway and we see which teams are good and which are not.  No games are played during the offseason.  So how can the team that finished first in the division the previous season suddenly not be the team to beat?

Is there reason to feel disrespected?  You tell me.  If the Pats had just won the division but, before training camp the next season, the media is already all over another team’s junk – saying they are the team to beat – how would you feel?

So yeah, I think there is a reason to feel disrespected – and Dolphin fans feel the same way as well.  But you also need to realize that this Dolphins team likes playing with a chip on their shoulder – and this just adds fuel that fire.  I know I relish the underdog role and it seems like these players like being the underdog as well.  So they’re going to play "the disrespect card" all season.  And I can’t say I blame them for doing so.

I have a major bias against Channing Crowder which COULD color my opinions about him, but I think it's silly to "demand" respect for being the AFC East Divisional champion.  Instead of saying, "Yeah, we're working hard to go out there and do it again", Crowder is TELLING us we need to respect Miami for their accomplishment.  Maybe it's just semantics and that's Crowder's way.  At any rate, I'm sure the NE vs. Miami rivalry will be in full swing this season.

Thanks to Matty I from The Phinsider for his fan perspective.

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You nailed it
But you also need to realize that this Dolphins team likes playing with a chip on their shoulder – and this just adds fuel that fire. I know I relish the underdog role and it seems like these players like being the underdog as well. So they’re going to play “the disrespect card” all season.

That was the Patriots’ card for years and you can easily see why. They won the Super Bowl and then were dismissed almost before the confetti stopped falling. Remember when the Patriots couldn’t beat Miami in Miami. Maybe New England’s “chip” wasn’t put out there so blatantly in front of the media, but they wore it well.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 12, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think that beating the Jets in the Meadowlands and keeping both them AND the Patriots out of the post season

“demands” a good amount of respect.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure

by chrislucas on Jun 12, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the Patriots without Brady

Didn’t want you to forget that little detail.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 12, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and yet you still went 11-5

so dont dismiss the Fins accomplishment so easily.

Can't stop to save my soul
I take the leash that's leading me
I'm bleeding me, whoa!

by Patssuck456 on Jun 12, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

win it this year

and then you’ve got real bragging rights.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 12, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's exactly what it is...

a LITTLE detail. Injuries happen in football, and teams move on without the player. You guys seem to have done just swimmingly without Brady, so don’t pull the “without Brady” card.

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure

by chrislucas on Jun 13, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't see the demand for respect...

… without seeing the lack of at least small acknowledhement that Miami is the AFC champs.

I think that’s were a great deal stems from when other teams talk about Miami.

And if the Pats don’t win as many games, I hope we don’t hear “it’s because Brady is gimp.”

30 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman

by Alpha6 on Jun 13, 2009 1:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

To be quite honest

I think Miami has a point. They do not get as much credit as they should, and it is largely due to forces outside their control. Detail or no detail every commentator and fan factor in Brady’s injury. It is not fair, but what can you do about it?

Personally I do think we would have found one more victory with Brady at the helm – the Colts perhaps? – but it is no sure thing, and we definitely would NOT have beaten the Dolphins in the first game. No offense can overcome such a defensive breakdown. And no matter how you slice and dice it, 11-5 is 11-5. I don’t care if you play the Lions sixteen times, this is the NFL, and 11 victories is impressive.

Of course, I still believe we will take the division this year, but I am a Patriots fan, so what else could I say? No disrespect intended!

by hythlodaeus on Jun 13, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I know..

It’s said the only reason the Pats went 11-5 without Brady was because of the weak teams we played. I’ve always believed that a win is a win is a win. A team can only play the teams on its schedule, so it’s silly to argue about that as it’s not something in the team’s control.

But by the same token, it doesn’t accomplish much for Miami to loudly demand respect in the off-season either. The only thing that will get them their coveted national media attention as a team to be feared, is to at the very least win the division again. Sometimes it takes a couple of decent and winning seasons for a team’s upward progress to grab the spotlight and become talked about as serious and legitimate contenders.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 13, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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