Tom Brady is ESPN.com's All-decade quarterback
by MaPatsFan on Jun 23, 2009 12:41 PM EDT
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PrintLet the hate begin. I can see it now, especially from our fellow Colts fans. The responses will be a) a stats war about how Peyton Manning is so much better and b) venomous invective directed at ESPN. How on earth could ESPN be credible if they chose Tom Brady over Peyton Manning for their All-decade offense? They were clearly out of their minds! Save it. It's an opinion, albeit a darn good one. You see, it's based on hardware, 3 vs. 1 if you need a reminder.
Watching the video, Michael Smith offers up a good argument in Mannings favor, namely the number and consistency of 4,000 yard seasons. Interestingly enough, Smith is a Bostonian. When coming home, he should fly into Manchester or T.F. Green and sneak back to his hometown; Logan may not be the best option.
The Brady vs. Manning debate and onfield battle between the two is one of the best in football. It drives the level of play up a notch when these two meet and makes for one heck of a rivalry. It's good for the fans and it's good for football.
But I do giggle like a schoolgirl when Brady beats out Manning for anything. Hehehe.
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Passing Yards irrelevant
Peyton Manning’s passing yards should not be a deciding factor. Why did Dan Marino throw for so many yards? They had a crapshoot run offense. Even though the Colts run game has been better than Marino’s Dolphins, they were by no means a superior running team, leading Manning to more pass attempts, therefore more passing yards.
That makes sense.
Let’s not judge a QB on his play and inferior run game. The fact that a QB has more 4K yard seasons means nothing because his run game sucked. Right. But, ok, lets judge this other QB over here based on SB rings…cause, you know, he played defense and ran the ball too.
What?!?!?!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
you spend a lot of time on this blog, dont you?
none of the other positions were determined by rings, so i doubt this one was either. otherwise almost every position would be owned by the patriots. but in a close matchup of players, id say that rings make a pretty good tie-breaker.
Offseason.
I’m bored. =-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 23, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball doesn't matter much until after the Allstar break.
But I have, however, been watching the College World Series…the first game was great.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 24, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
does the football season not matter until the 9th game?
i cant do aluminum bats. theyre even cheaper than corked bats. just because they are allowed to use them in college doesnt make them any less lame.
Well, let's do the math
EVERY game in football matters as there are only 16 regular season games. Baseball…not so much…watching 500 games a season is a little much for me…especially since I’m not really that into it to begin with.
Yeah, the aluminum bats bug me too. One would think that at least the guys who are looking to go pro would be using wooden bats…just to be prepared for the next level if for no other reason.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 25, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
"But I do giggle like a schoolgirl when Brady beats out Manning for anything."
You’re not the only one!
Well...
You giggle like a schoolgirl for many reasons…wait, wrong blog.
Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit
As predicted...
The fun started over at Stampede Blue, featuring plenty of outrage, venemous invective and heaping portions of indignation. Hee hee.
Keep the faith!
manning vs. Brady
Of the two, Brady is likely to rank higher historically as a great all around football player. Instincts,wins the whole nine yards. I think Brady is a legit top 5 while manning is more a top 10. I expect Brady to have a great last part of his career and win a couple more tourneys but I am biased.
Matt
You can bash Manning all you want . . .
but what exactly is the point? Let’s be reasonable here: either one of these two is a defensible choice. If you put Brady in Indy’s offense or Manning in ours, I seriously doubt the outcomes for the NE QB versus the IND QB would be any different. It would be BRADY who had all the yards but none of the championships, and MANNING who was championed as the ultimate team player.
Look, I love Tom Brady: his poise, his arm, his smarts. I couldn’t be happier that we have him on the Pats. And I am by no means a Manning apologist. But if Brady went down for good and we were given the option, for one season, to take any other QB in the league right now, every single one of you here would pick Peyton Manning. Don’t even try to pretend you wouldn’t. To me, Manning is to Brady what Magic was to Bird: a transcendent talent who you hated because he was your key rival but had to admire because he was so damn good.
I don’t think people need to be bashing Manning to make Brady look better; he looks just fine without our help, y’know?
by BUTerrier on Jun 24, 2009 9:53 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
who's bashing Manning?
Just because we happen to believe Tom is the better quarterback doesn’t mean it’s a bash on Peyton. A compliment can be given to one QB without it meaning an insult to the other. Both are top quality, highly skilled, “best” quarterbacks in the league. It’s just a bit of fun exploiting this article to the Manning fans over at Stampede Blue. They’re sure to return the favor at some point. No harm, no foul.
Keep the faith!
I should clarify . . .
The “you” was a generic “you”, not one specifically directed at anyone here. I was reading the responses on the ESPN page, and so many of them made a point of bashing Brady to support Manning or vice versa. I just see all this vitriol spilled over things like this, and it bothers me, because, like you said, it’s not like the two are so different that there’s a clear-cut winner.
But for the record, I do agree with your logic as to why Brady’s better, and I don’t mind a bit of good-natured banter between blogs :-)
Do not waste your time
Please, don’t bother with an ESPN comments section. You seem like a smart and reasonable person, and I wouldn’t want you losing those brain cells every time you take a look there.
Hey. Its all in good fun.
We have to have something to do during the offseason. Besides, it was getting a little too friendly between us all anyway. Brady’s back, the pot must be stirred.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Jun 24, 2009 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoff Wins
I posted this on Stampede Blue as well:
The reason why Brady’s better than Manning is quite simple: playoff winning percentage.
In my humble opinion the one thing that matters to me is whether my QB can deliver in December, January and February – when it really counts.
Tom is 14-3 (.824). Manning is 7-8 (.467). Tom has been to four Superbowls and won three. Peyton has been to one Superbowl and won it.
I like Manning and think he’s one of the best ever. However, if I was playing in a Superbowl with a generic team, there’s no question I would select Brady over Manning to guide my squad. He simply delivers.
The Usual
Its the usual comments by Colts’ fans (you know, “Brady chocked in the Superbowl”, blah, blah blah). Of course, if I were to list all of Manning’s errors in big games, they would be throwing up one excuse after another.
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