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New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) speaks during a media availability after team football practice in Foxborough, Mass. Thursday, May 28, 2009. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

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8 months ago: New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady (12) speaks during a media availability after team football practice in Foxborough, Mass. Thursday, May 28, 2009. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

Miami linebackers Joey Porter and Channing Crowder are right...sort of.  Now, before you banish me to the stocks at Old Sturbridge Village, hear me out.  I think they're both a bit too outspoken for my tastes and they need to ACT like Divisional Champions rather then TELL everyone they're Divisional Champions:

Porter, named the Dolphins' Most Valuable Player along with quarterback Chad Pennington, said he couldn't understand how the Patriots, especially Randy Moss and Wes Welker, could be talking so openly about reclaiming their stranglehold on the division without giving proper credit to the upstart Dolphins.

Randy Moss never actually talked openly about reclaiming the stranglehold on the division.  What he said was:

"The sky's the limit for this offense," Patriots receiver Randy Moss told me over the phone Monday afternoon. "I think that we could be a little bit better than two years ago.

"I'm very excited for us as an offense. I'm excited for us as a team. There's a lot of good things about Tom Brady coming back that excites the people, the fans, the coaches and the players around here.

Context is everything.  If the media asked Moss, "What do you think of the division this year?", I'm pretty darn sure he'd give credit where credit was due and hand Miami some props.  However, his statement above was regarding the return of Tom Brady and the state of the offense after some key acquisitions.  Moss is excited and he should be.  So, does that mean he's supposed to "give proper credit" to the Dolphins with every statement he makes?  C'mon Joey and Channing, let's get real, OK?  You're looking for the red carpet to be placed at your feet everywhere you go and it ain't gonna happen.

Bringing this to the 10,000 foot level, and this COULD be where Channing and Crowder were going, the "prediction circus" swirling around the Patriots is getting to be a bit much.  I love my team as much as the next New England fan.  Heck, I write about them almost every day and obsess about every transaction, practice, and news bit about these dudes.  But I'm growing tired of the coverage.  It's suffocating and annoying.  Tell me about position battles.  Analyze the OLB sitiation or the defensive backfield.  Shelve the "Here's why the Patriots will win the Super Bowl this year" stories.  The media "experts" who write this drivel are desperate for material and are simply making rival fans hate us more.

If this team lives up to its potential, this is going to be quite a year for New England fans.  But September is a long way away.  Shouldn't we just concentrate on getting through training camp?

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Nice write up...

LIke I said earlier, all the sports networks are talking about Brady’s return, Rex and Sanchez, and T.O. without mentioning anything from the current division champs. The only thing mentioned about the Dolphins nowadays is “oh well they got a tough schedule….” that’s it. Crowder and Porter were just blowing off steam that the media created.

by SDefee on Jun 6, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Blowing off steam

I think they’d be better off by being a bit more reserved; I don’t want to speak for you, but as a Fins fan, I’m sure you’ve come across moments when you’d wished they didn’t say what they said.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Jun 6, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think any fan can say that about his team...

But I like this. It’s making sure everyone keeps the Dolphins on their radar. And if it’s considered “bulletin board material” for you guys, that’s fine. We’ve got more than enough for ourselves already…

by SDefee on Jun 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also...

I doubt any of you would argue with what Crowder had to say about Rex Ryan and the Jets..

“Oh, he’s going crazy. He’s going absolutely nuts. I know it’s his first chance to be a head coach, and I know he’s excited about life. But, like I said, I’ve never played a football game in June in my whole life. So congratulations to him. He’s the OTA, the OTA Super Bowl winner.”

by SDefee on Jun 6, 2009 12:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big words from the Jets' new sheriff

’tis the [off]season I guess

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 6, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're kidding right?

The fishies won the division on some arcane NFL tiebreaker while the Pats were without Brady and had an injury report that looked like the Vietnam Memorial Wall, but the rest of the division is supposed to pay homage to the Dolphins accomplishment? Uhhh, no.

Hell, they won one game the previous year and now they are the kings?

And as far as writers predicting the Pats winning the Superbowl; that’s what writers do; a lot. Would you prefer them predicting the fish will win the Superbowl?

I don’t get why you even wrote this.

by BabeParilli on Jun 6, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he may have written this because

Like many following the off season when every day there is a new top headline written in different words saying the exact same thing… well it gets a bit redundant. How many ways can you say “bradys back and looking good” ? If you follow the media lately it seems like you can write the same story 30 times and it is still suposed to be “new news” Its not. Where are the stories like.. “Bradys return after surgury.. will he be able to be 100% ?” Or “Is there 100% life after serious injury to Brady?” NO ONE KNOWS untill he is back on the field. Its that simple and its all these “expert” stories that are fueling this crap. How about they just report the FACTS and move on to the next story? Personally I think Brady’s best years are behind him. I think the pats are getting a bit long in the tooth. Will they do good this year? I would guess yes.. this year. But facts are the facts. The Phins won the AFC East last year. Not because of some stupid NFL rule. They played well. Not great but good enough to beat out the Pats and the Jets. Stings you doesnt it? Pats have been good the last few years, I feel due to using videos and cheating but that is another story right? We will not go there at this time though.

by MainePhinFan on Jun 6, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny

you managed to bring it up (when it had nothing to do with anything) and then say you wouldn’t. kind of a cheap shot in itself right there, but I won’t talk about that right now.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 6, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that he brings it up

The Patriots record is 29-6 since Spygate happened, and that was with a full season having our backup quarterback play. With that kind of winning percentage (83%), it seems like the team is doing okay without the extra video.

by NESilver on Jun 7, 2009 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unfortunatly

MPF, you choose to exist in a state of unreality. That’s your choice. The reason there are all these stories about Brady returning is because he is a first year eligible lock for the Hall of Fame. When people like that get back on the field it’s a big deal in the football world. The reason writers are not wondering if he will be okay after the injury is because it is most very likely he will. I’m sure there is plenty of wishful thinking that he somehow won’t be the dominant force he has been by persons of shallow character, but there is just no evidence that this will be. Brady has many years of great play left in him. Contrary viewpoints are just wishful thinking from wannabees.

It doesn’t sting in the slightest that Miami won the tiebreaker for the division. Most realistic Pats fans felt going 10-6 with Cassel at QB would be a great success.

As far as the fiasco of spygate; think the Pats cheated if it makes you feel better about being dominated for so long. But the NFL says “no competitive advantage was gained”. Numerous authoritative NFL sources have claimed this was common practice in the league. This was plainly allowed until 2004 anyway. Claiming that taping was the reason for the Pat’s success is just intellectual dishonesty. It’s only weenie fans that complain about that anymore. Coaches and players know it was all BS and meant zip.

by BabeParilli on Jun 7, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Brady's best years are behind him"

LOL

Sure, but whose best years wouldn’t be behind him after having the best statistical year in NFL history in his last season in which he was knocked out for the year less than eight minutes into the first game?

I’ll take less than Brady’s best year over the best year of any other current NFL QB other than Peyton Manning any day — it’ll still leave him as one of the top three QBs in the NFL this year.

by RSNexile on Jun 7, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you sound bitter

Can't stop to save my soul
I take the leash that's leading me
I'm bleeding me, whoa!

by Patssuck456 on Jun 6, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love your screen name, Babe. A classic. eom

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Jun 6, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why I wrote this

The main reason is I’m rather tired of all the “red carpet treatment” this team gets. That may sound contradictory to what a Patriots fan SHOULD feel (ie: a bit of chest thumping pride). However, the more I interact with bloggers from rival teams, the more it becomes an issue. On a daily basis, I chat with AFC East bloggers as well as our favorite team to hate from the midwest and they all bring it up; sometimes, it’s a conversation killer and it gets in the way of just talking football.

Now, I’m not suggesting Channing and Crowder are 100% right; I think they’re misguided in playing the disrespect card, but their statements DO allude to a bigger problem and that is the smothering lovefest of our New England Patriots. You are correct that writers write, but I’d rather they concentrate on analysis than opinion poll type pieces like springtime power rankings and Super Bowl predictions.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Jun 7, 2009 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay

A lot of football talk is about what will happen. Who will win the Superbowl. Who will win the next game. Who will play well. Etc.

The reason the Pats are getting the red carpet is because, despite being derailed by Brady’s injury last year, this team has dominated the league (2007) like nothing ever seen before. It’s only natural that amazement would pick up where it left off. If they won 11 games with Cassel it seems fair to say they won’t lose any with Brady.

Any realistic assessment of the most likely prospect to win the next Superbowl has to put the Patriots at the top. It’s that simple. So people write about it.

by BabeParilli on Jun 7, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough and good points

Especially about realistic assessment.

Blogger at SBNation's Patriots blog, Pats Pulpit

by MaPatsFan on Jun 7, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather be under the radar, than the biggest blip.

Give Miami their due. Props to them for winning the division, in ties, there are tie-breakers, they won and now have a tougher schedule because of it.

The Pats have alot of potential, but that media circus they had every week of 2007 is enough to make you cringe.

Week after week of:
Q: Are you guys looking to go 16-0? Are you shoe-ins for the Super Bowl.
A: We are just looking to next week and competing agains (fill in team name).

I think those guys were answering questions in their sleep. The games were easier than the media.

I’d rather everyone thought Brady wouldn’t come back, Moss and Galloway were washed up, Welker had lost a step, and the defense had more holes than a screen door.

Stay of the media radar and just play football.

Congrats to the Dolphins, AFC East Champs. Did you see the new QB the Jets have and their upgraded defense? How about TO in Buffalo, they got something to look forward to. Pats who?

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 7, 2009 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Porter and Crowder are welcome play the disrespect card

I understand why the Dolphins and their fans are a bit tired of the media talk that are asserting they will miss the playoffs and that the Patriots are back as the top dogs of the division. I believe that as well, but I would definitely be ticked off if it was the other way around.

More generally, I think the hype for the Patriots is too much. I like the moves we have made, but I don’t consider us the best team in the league right now. The Steelers return the best team from last year, the Giants look pretty good, and – more to the point – we had some major holes last year, especially on defense. The Dolphins profited from their weak schedule last year, but so did we. The west divisions minus the Chargers were HORRIBLE, so none of the AFC East teams were worth their records. Not the Dolphins, not the Bills, definitely not the Jets and not us either.

But we get Brady back, they say. Yes, and that is great, but he is also a questionmark at this point. Maybe he will be back to 2007, but we just don’t know yet. So isn’t it a bit off the mark making the Patriots the best team in the league at this point?

That, however, is old news. What I really don’t like is the quotes from Moss and Welker. There is a fine line between confidense and arrogance, and in my opinion they were flirting with it. I’m fine with believing in your own abilities as long as everybody remembers that the 2008 Patriots offense hasn’t done A THING yet. Whatever this year will bring, is still to come, and I would be much more comfortable if the players just said the offense would be “really good.” Let’s wait until october before we talk about “the sky is the limit” or “historically great”. Nothing is more dangerous than starting to belive your own hype.

by hythlodaeus on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is every fan's time of year.

Your team has new free agents, new draftees, maybe a new coach or two. You look at the players lost and rationalize that you’ll do well without them.

It is a time to focus on the upside:
Can your losing team have a winning season? It’s June, of course they can.
Can you team make the playoffs? It’s June, baby, of course they will.
Will they take the division, the conference? In June, damn straight they will.
Can your team win, dare I say it, the Super Bowl. It’s June, man and we’re already picking out the rings!

What we don’t need is the media messing up fantasy island. It’s every fan’s right to believe their team is good in June, and it there should be some sort of a law against screwing that up. I mean, if your team can’t be good in June, how will they look in December?

by SlotMachinePlayer on Jun 7, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think defending Moss or Welker is necessary. Porter’s comprehension skills discredit the abilities of human beings. If he never spoke again, it’d be too soon.

by BOSPORTS on Jun 8, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't know...

maybe the league needs a player willing to bravely speak up about their teams against players who speak up… umm…about their teams.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jun 8, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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