Patriots Links 7/22/09 - Hall of Famer Andre Tippett to Speak at The Hall
Andy Hart discusses why Patrick Chung may have a greater impact this season than Darius Butler.
I think the reason Chung is expected to have a greater impact is twofold. First, according to Coach Belichick he comes from a very complex, diverse pro-style defense at Oregon in which he played a key role for his entire career. He’s already done a lot of things he could be asked to do in the pros. He also has great experience making calls and adjustment in that scheme. But maybe more importantly the Patriots don’t have a ton of depth at safety. Beyond projected starters James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather there isn’t a lot there. Chung will be competing with returning injured veteran Tank Williams, newcomer Brandon McGowan who missed nearly all of last season in Chicago with an injury and special teams ace Ray Ventrone. Chung could easily be the team’s third safety and that would likely equate to significant reps on defense in Belichick’s multiple defensive back sets.
Butler, on the other hand, faces far more competition at corner with veterans like Leigh Bodden and Shawn Springs as well as returning sophomores Terrence Wheatley and Jonathan Wilhite. Butler could have a nice preseason and still be the team’s fifth corner. In fact his greatest chance to contribute may come on special teams. In the end finding a role for yourself is as much about who’s ahead of you on the depth chart as it is about a player’s own development. Just ask Matt Cassel.
John Czarnecki asks if Tom Brady's return means the Patriots win and win big?
Well, the Patriots figure to nurse Brady into playing shape this summer, but Bill Belichick has bigger concerns. Can Laurence Maroney prove he's durable enough to hold off ex-Jaguar Fred Taylor at running back? Maroney has been full of excuses the last couple of seasons, but his shoulder should finally be healthy. And what happens if LB Tedy Bruschi retires or simply slows down? Yes, Jerod Mayo is very good, but Bruschi knows the system. The bottom line is that New England's defense, particularly the secondary, is in full transition.
Czar's Prediction: The Patriots barely win the AFC East and Brady falls well short of 50 touchdown passes.
TEAM SHOTS
- The Hall at Patriot Place Speaker Series will feature Pro Football Hall of Famer Andre Tippett on July 24.
- Ask PFW: Crawling toward Training Camp.
- Erik Scalavino lists the Patriots Greatest Hits as players recall the hardest hits they've delivered or received.
- Andy Hart talks with Patriots players about their tatoos.
LOCAL SHOTS
- Christopher Price looks at five position battles we'll be watching when Training Camp opens next week.
- Mike Reiss offers a snapshot of the Patriots at CB position leading up to Training Camp.
- Mike Reiss presents a Patriots rookie draft-pick chart, with the plan to keep updating it as draft picks come to terms.
- Mike Reiss details a few nuggets on the Patriots' scouting and coaching staff that were previously unaccounted for.
- Jeff Howe looks at the Patriots' AFC East competition and doesn't think the Miami Dolphins can repeat as division champs.
- Mike Reiss answers his weekly reader mailbag. Lots of good insight here as usual.
- Shalise Manza Young considers a few teams that might sign Michael Vick and says the Patriots are not one of them.
- Jessica Isner reports that Sir Elton John, friend of Bob and Myra Kraft, will serve as Patriots' honorary captain when the Patriots take on Tampa Bay at Wembley Stadium on Oct. 25. Good grief.
LONG SHOTS
- Jamie Dukes (NFL.com) Belichick's fascination with 'Wildcat' could help Vick. His what????
- Don Banks (SI) Franchise QBs: Four NFL teams feel they've found their saviors.
- AP NFL Notebook: Roethlisberger named in lawsuit; Goodell silent on Vick's status; J.P. Losman signs with UFL team.
- Mike Florio (Pro Football Talk) Goodell "will look into" Roethlisberger allegations.
- Mike Florio (Pro Football Talk) Last word on ESPN's civil lawsuit policy.
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Czarnecki's point about Bruschi isn't relevant
Bruschi is not retiring this season and will be a part of the defense. He won’t be slowing down because he’ll be spelled by the younger legs out there while helping them out with his experience and expertise.
Keep the faith!
I disagree about TB's speed.
I though he was too slow two years ago. He hasn’t gotten faster. Like Rodney did, he’s able to make up for it a bit with game-knowledge and anticipation, but you can really see it when the LB’s drop into zones — it’s like he’s running in a pool. I’d have traded him and kept Vrabel, if it had been possible.
As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead
by JohnHannahRules on Jul 22, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not implying that he's in his prime
But whenever he is on the field he’ll give the best he has and I’m betting that will be good enough to get the job done.
Keep the faith!
Bruschi is the Defence QB
hes been playing so long with NE and knows the system that he tells others what to do thats what will help the Pats the Most
This is hilarious.
Brady falls well short of 50 TDs? This man is brilliant!!! The greatest prognosticator ever! Somehow this man knows Brady will not tie the all-time record for TD passes in a season! Uncanny. This guy is going way out on a limb here. But what is well short? 41? 38? 7?
And what is he babbling about Bruschi retiring? Bruschi doesn’t even know if he will retire NEXT YEAR.
The secondary is in transition? Ya think? Yeah, it’s transitioning from completely dismal to very promising by a large margin.
And Maroney? Why is he even mentioning Maroney? The Pats were the 6th rushing offense without him last year. Duh.
They will barely win the East? So, let’s get crazy here and say with Brady the future Hall of Famer they can manage one more win than with the one year man Cassel. And to actually win it they realistically should have one more win than the second best team. That means somebody among the Bills, Dolphins and Jets will go 11-5? Right Czar, that’s likely.
Sigh. This guy need an “I don’t have a clue what the hell I’m talking about” sticker tattooed on his forehead. It’s amazing people actually get paid money to be this completely bad at what they do.
"Tonight, a dynasty is born" - Ricky Proehl
"Let them hate so long as they fear" - Caligula
by BabeParilli on Jul 22, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I was thinking the same thing.
He’s saying Brady won’t repeat a season that has only occurred once in the history of the NFL. Wow… I would’ve never guessed.
I can’t wait for training camp to start so that we no longer have to read these type of predictions.
also there is the chance he does repeat then who looks like an ass jk
but they will be greatly better then last year which is what makes me happy
Why doesn't Adnre Tippett ...
become a LB coach for NE? He was the best we ever had, one of the all time best in the NFL, Seems like he could impart all the knowledge he has and make a pretty good unit even that much better. He seems to be hanging around a lot latey, Put him to work.
And Czar is a retard. Plain and simple. I predict the Patriots go 14-2 or better, and Brady gets more than 40 TD passes.
Hey, did you guys know ...
That the Colts have almost the same schedule as the Patriots this season. Should be interesting to gage by who beats whom more convincingly. Manning has averaged 33 td’s a season in 11 seasons. So if Brady does manage to score 40 or more TD’s this season, that could sway the Brady haters who say Manning is the better QB. Pobably not though. Knuckle heads retain the right to be knuckle heads.
Tippet tried coaching at a HS level
it didnt work also back in the day LBs are different from today with new systems and roles
but he was great

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