New England Patriots PreSeason Watch - Running Backs - Updated 8/17/2009
Contiuing the position battles: (Previously QB WR)
The Running Backs:
| NUMBER | NAME | POSITION | HEIGHT | WEIGHT | DOB | YEAR | LAST YEAR |
| 39 | Laurence Maroney | RB | 5-11 | 220 | 2/5/1985 | 4 | |
| 33 | Kevin Faulk | RB | 5-8 | 202 | 6/5/1976 | 11 | |
| 42 | BenJarvus Green-Ellis | RB | 5-11 | 215 | 7/2/1985 | 2 | |
| 44 | Eric Kettani RES/MIL | RB | 5-11 | 235 | 3/26/1987 | R | |
| 34 | Sammy Morris | RB | 6-0 | 220 | 3/23/1977 | 10 | |
| 21 | Fred Taylor | RB | 6-1 | 228 | 1/27/1976 | 12 * | Jaguars |
| 35 | Chris Taylor Added! | RB | 6-0 | 224 | 11/7/1983 | 12 * | Jaguars |
Last year the Pats carried 6 backs at times on the active roster moving BenJarvus Green-Ellis in after Maroney was injured. This year Heath Evans left and the fullback job remains open.
Prior to training camp I picked Maroney, Taylor, Morris and Faulk to split carries. No fullback. Eric Kettani heading to the practice squad.
The update after the jump.
The Pat's have done a major RBBC (Running Back By Commitee) of late, and this year it won't change. Against the Eagles we saw Dave Thomas take some of the Full Back duties as I predicted earlier, and I think we'll still see Russ Hochstein filling that role on goal line as he did in the Cardinals game last year.
We didn't see Taylor in the Eagles game, but I'm pretty sure Bill Belichick knows what he brings and isn't too concerned. Taylor has looked good in practice: he has some moves and some downhill speed. There is gas in the tank for a season or two.
Laurence Maroney has had a good camp so far, but was still indecisive hitting the hole against the Eagles (#1 defense). Several people have commented that the O-Line provided no hole to hit. This needs to be a big year for him, and I believe Belichick will hang onto him even if his preseason is underwhelming. That is as long as he shows effort and improves. We want a feature back, but don't necessarily need one. While Maroney has shown glimpses, consistency is the word that springs readily from Belichick's lips. We haven't seen that at all, and it's costing us alot of roster spots on running backs.
Sammy Morris is another aging back that continues to perform well. He's carried significant portions of the load for two seasons, and showed a nice sustained drive against the Eagles. There's no elite speed, or LT-like moves, but he is a consistent and capable back. When he decides to go, there is no hesitation.
Faulk is the ultility back who had a very nice 9 yard run against the Eagles. We'll hang onto him this year and possibly more, but what is the long term plan? Faulk is one of the two players that pre-date Belichick (Bruschi is the other). While he looks good, there has to be a replacement plan in place. Is that guy on the roster, or have we yet to draft him?
Eric Kettani filled the Full Back role in college, but is now filling his service commitment. We'll see him after his military stint, and maybe he'll be able to help us out down the road.
BenJarvus Green-Ellis (BJGE as Marima calls him or Law Firm as some of the Pats call him) did a good job stepping in last year when needed. He did a good deal of running last year with Heath Evans providing some blocking. His showing against the Eagles wasn't overly impressive. If anyone on the roster is going to fill the utility back role long term, it will be Green-Ellis. He isn't eligible for the practice squad, so we either keep him or cut him. He played some Special Teams against the Eagles, and we'll have to keep an eye on him in the rest of the pre-season games.
As the preseason games continue, look for number of carries, yards per carry, blocking contributions, receptions / screen options, and special teams play (pretty much anywhere on the field). Right now, I'd say we're keeping the lot of them, but we're still a long way from Week 1.
What's your take?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UPDATE <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
8/17/2009 - The Patriots have added Chris Taylor from the Houstan Texans.
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i thought
that maroney didn’t have holes to go through. our OL is not much of a run protection type, and when maroney runs with the ball in the direction he’s supposed to go to, the lineman, instead of opening the hole, they get pushed and the opposing defense plugs the hole with our OL. either that or the opposing defense pushes our OL in the direction maroney’s supposed to go to, and maroney can’t continue in that direction.
by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get to see as much of the Eagles game as I wanted to
but the O-line last year was making holes you could drive boats through. So if it was a failure of the line, someone will have to tell me. I was going off of reports.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but last year maroney was on IR the whole year(the first game he had 5 yards a carry). the pats were a running team last year, not a passing team, which means that the OL had to get used to run blocking. they weren’t doing a good job run blocking this game due to brady and his passing game coming to town, and i bet that they had to focus more on protecting brady than run blocking, which i have no problem with.
I’d like to see better run blocking, let’s see how they do, but protecting brady is #1 on my priority.
by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i saw one play where if he ran outside 39 would of gotten like 15 yards
but he runs whats called and got 4 because the O line didnt create a big enough hole
by Patsfan4life on Aug 14, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What does everyone else say?
Was Laurence indecisive, or was it bad O-Line play?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 14, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Maroney looked good
lack of holes last night
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Aug 14, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely the O-line's fault
There were a couple of plays where Maroney made something out of nothing. I really wish they’d get him out in space more often.
by NESilver on Aug 14, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't see the game
After all, staying up the night before a workday for a PREseason game is a bit too much.
I think we will keep all of them. Last year we had a very good running game without a star rusher, but only because we had a lot of bodies to take from. This year will be the same. Sammy Morris, Fred Taylor and Maroney have all had a tendency to miss games in the past so they probably will this year as well.
If somebody gets cut it is probably Morris or Green-Ellis. Faulk is the perfect third-down back, presumably Taylor was brought in for a reason and I still think Maroney has the most potential, though time is obviously running out for him. I wouldn’t rule a trade out either if a team with little depth is ravaged by injury in camp.
by hythlodaeus on Aug 14, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey you're no dispenser of nonsense
or are you?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 14, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice catch :-)
I’m probably not the right one to judge that, but at least I have a one-word disclaimer available at all times if some crazy talk leaks through the cracks!
by hythlodaeus on Aug 14, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd rather have green-ellis than morris
by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like morris he proved him self
he was even injured for a few games came back and did good
lawfirm is ok
but morris for this season at least
Lawfirm can go to pratice squad like last year and we bring him up
also with the pass threat they will all adverage more Yards
Faulk is my 5 favorite pat. and last season he had the League best yeards per run it was like 6+ i think thats due to the pass threat, could be more or less this is just what i think at 10 at night
by Patsfan4life on Aug 14, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Law Firm is ineligible for the practice squad
We keep him or we cut him.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 14, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reason why is
that he looks tougher than morris. he seems to make the plays, and whenever the pats needed him last year, he put up great numbers. he reminds me of frank gore a bit.
by patriotguy2 on Aug 14, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Morris did well
he lowers that shoulder and usually manages to weasel his way through the line. Don’t get me wrong, I love BJG-E too.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Aug 14, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Kevin Faulk
Maybe not as much as NESilver, but I also realize that all good things must come to and end. When Kevin retires and we choose not to keep him (ala Troy Brown), there has to be a guy in the wings to fill that huge hole. Do we have that guy yet, or are we still looking?
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 14, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we dont have another 3rd down back that can catch return anything
Faulk is by far the most important RB on the team
by Patsfan4life on Aug 15, 2009 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've added #35 Chris Taylor from the Houston Texans
Somebody else to watch in camp.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 18, 2009 8:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, but I will be shocked if he makes the team
by hythlodaeus on Aug 18, 2009 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has as much a shot as Law Firm
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Aug 18, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

















