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New England Patriots Links 8/07/09 - QBs Having A Ball At Camp

Belichick and O'Connell playing dodgeball at Thursday's a.m. practice.

Belichick and O'Connell playing dodgeball at Thursday's a.m. practice.

David White (San Francisco Chronicle) The Derrick Burgess to NE trade:  "No, the Raiders are not a minor-league farm team for the Patriots. It just may seem that way after their latest coast-to-coast swap."

That ends a nine-day camp boycott by Burgess, who joins Randy Moss, LaMont Jordan and Andrew Walter as players who grumbled their way out of Oakland to New England since 2007.

"Anytime you have a talent like Burgess that commands the respect and double teams that he did, it's definitely a huge loss," Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said at training camp in Napa.

"He was able to get guys to rally around the way he played the game."

Jeff Howe points out the preconceived perceptions of coach Belichick by both new players and veterans.

"I thought coach Belichick was like a tough guy, real stringent, army-like and all that," said New England Patriots wide receiver Greg Lewis, who was acquired through an offseason trade with the Philadelphia Eagles. "But being here and being around him, really he is just passionate about football, and he wants to get the best out of his players. He really doesn’t take any nonsense, but he is willing to work with you, and is lenient and willing to get to know you once you get to know him. He is a good coach to play for."

Andy Hart discusses the O-Line and D-Line position battles taking place at camp.

At this point Belichick would seem to have options with his depth chart. Go with the known commodities, new faces or a mix of the two? Either way, theoretically, the Patriots win. If the young guys play their way not only onto the roster but also into contributing roles for the 2009 team, it'll be because they earned it. If they don't, New England returns impressive top-end talent and experienced backups on both sides of the line of scrimmage that's worked cohesively with impressive results for years.

Continuity is good. Fresh blood is good. A combination of the two may be even better. It's a win-win situation for a team expected to do a lot of that this fall.

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TRAINING CAMP OBSERVATIONS

Wes Welker being pursued by Pat Chung at Thursday night's practice inside Gillette Stadium.

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just have a q. about ff

will the backups(both backup players and defense) give me points as well?

by patriotguy on Aug 7, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting to see Sam Aiken named pre-season captain for special teams

If I remember correctly, the coaches bestow the captain titles for preseason, but the players vote for who will be their captains during the regular season.

If that’s accurate, than it may be correct to assume that Sam Aiken will make the roster. He’s been a hard worker at camp, and catching pretty much everything thrown his way.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sh*t. I'm suddenly very excited to see how this baby runs!

Mike Lombardi:

On paper, the Patriots look loaded, and if they’re able to convince former Tampa Bay Bucs defensive lineman Kevin Carter to come north – I hear there’s about an 80-percent chance — they might have solved all their defensive woes.
Are you kidding me? If even one of our corners and one of our safeties is any good, this defense starts to look like the monster of ’01, ’03 and ’04. If we can just clear up this little thing with Vince…man.

Stephen Neal is healthy, Sebastian Vollmer has “steal” written all over him, Freddy Taylor wants a ring, Joey Galloway wants his shot…

I’ve been trying to hold it down up here, but this beast is really rattling the cage. We could have something special on our hands again.

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Aug 7, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well put!

The training camp visits already have me chomping at the bit to get this party started, and the positive reports from knowledgeable football guys like Mike Lombardi only make it better.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Aug 7, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's true.

I’ve been looking at the roster and seeing if I can predict who will make our 53. This team is loaded with depth everywhere, and some good players are gonna get cut from this team before the season starts. I’m thinking some of them may have to get “injured” if we wanna keep them.

by NESilver on Aug 8, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i kinda think burgess is a little over-hyped

we can’t expect a 31 year-old DE who has never played OLB to come in and contribute the way everybody thinks he will. would osiumeniora of the giants be able to play LB in the
3-4?

i’m sorry guys, i’m just being VERY skeptical about this. i don’t think we should put so much of our pass rushing faith into one guy who, like i said, is 31 with no experience at LB, and not to mention he has to learn the playbook.
Do you guys REALLY think he can walk in and contribute as a pass rusher in our 3-4 as soon as game 1?

by patriotguy on Aug 8, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure he has played 3-4.

It was under Rob Ryan, although I’m pretty sure it was a one-gap rather than two-gap system like ours.

by NESilver on Aug 8, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

disregard my statement

you were right. he played in a 3-4 system in his first 2 years on the raiders under rob ryan. he put up great numbers during those years too. i don’t know how much OLB he played in that 3-4, but i’m sure belichek knows all about the positions burgess played in the 3-4 under rob ryan no matter how much OLB burgess played.
knowing this now, he’ll probably do good with us, but i’ll wait till pre-season to make a good judgement.

by patriotguy2 on Aug 8, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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