New England Patriots and Buffalo Bills Week, day 1
by MaPatsFan on Sep 7, 2009 11:31 AM EDT
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PrintThat's right. In one week, we kick off the season against none other than one of our division rivals, the Buffalo Bills. Monday night football, baby!! Throwback uniforms! It's all good, clean fun. Last year, the Bills got rolling early with a 4-1 record. Everything was looking good and then things just didn't pan out. There are many reasons and we'll get into them this week. Every day, I'll drag some intel out of our esteemed Bills Blogger, Brian Galliford. First up is what the heck happened with OC Turk Schonert and will "his" no-huddle offense be part of the Bills' playbook.
Q: Turk Schonert was just fired as offensive coordinator for the Bills. Apparently brought on to install a no-huddle offense, do the Bills have a future with the no-huddle?
They do, indeed, have a future with the no-huddle, as they plan to use it exclusively on Monday night. The common misconception is that the no-huddle was Schonert's brain child based on his playing days under Sam Wyche; the reality, however, is that head coach Dick Jauron was behind the move to the no-huddle. Philosophical differences led to the dismissal - Jauron wants a watered-down playbook that makes life easier on QB Trent Edwards and maximizes the talent of our skill players, while Schonert wanted more diverse looks. It was too much for Edwards to handle, as our pre-season performances indicated.
Under new coordinator Alex Van Pelt - a former understudy of Jim Kelly, if you recall - Buffalo's no-huddle will have a quicker pace, a slimmer playbook and easier reads for Edwards. Without Edwards playing at a competent level, this team is going nowhere. Still, as philosophically sound as making the decision was, it's going to take some time for Van Pelt, Edwards and the offense to find plays they can execute well and perfect them. Barring a minor miracle, the Bills will almost certainly get off to a slow start offensively.
Day 1, gang. We'll have an entry every day this week with some fun over the weekend. Don't forget to check out my answers to Brian's questions at Buffalo Rumblings.
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I have a hard time believing the no huddle was “too much for Edwards to handle.” He wasn’t drafted out of Miami or Ohio State — he’s from Stanford.
So I have to think something else is going on there.
how about more than a bit of bad blood
The Buffalo Bills remain a team in turmoil as former offensive coordinator Turk Schonert told a Buffalo television station Friday afternoon he was fired because the Bills’ offense “wasn’t simple enough” for coach Dick Jauron.
“He wants a ‘Pop Warner’ offense,” Schonert said in a phone interview with WIVB. “He limited me in formations, and limited me in plays. He’s been on my back all offseason.”
“He [Jauron] told me the offense wasn’t simple enough for him,” Schonert said. “We had too many formations, too many plays. I didn’t simplify it to his liking.”
Both quarterback Trent Edwards and receiver Lee Evans supported the move after the team returned to practice Sunday to start preparing for its season opener at New England on Sept. 14. Both indicated players had voiced their concerns about the offensive sputters to coach Dick Jauron, who ultimately made the decision to fire Schonert on Friday.
Jauron said Schonert was fired for a “lack of productivity,” though he also said the fault was not all Schonert’s.
The Bills’ offensive starters failed to score a touchdown in five preseason games after ranking 25th in the NFL in offense in 2008, Schonert’s first as the team’s play-caller.
Keep the faith!
Similarly, I have trouble believing Jauron is unable to grasp a sophisticated offensive scheme — didn’t he go to Yale? I mean, I went to Harvard and know quite well how inferior the Yalies are, but again, they’re not Miami.
Then again, Jauron is one of the worst coaches in the NFL and I don’t understand why the Bills hired him in the first place, let alone why they gave him an extension.
trust me you're not alone with this statement.
let alone why they gave him an extension
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nowhere did Brian say “Jauron couldn’t understand the offense.” He wanted it streamlined for the players. Essentially, instead of doing 150 plays crappy, do 75 well. We have the talent on offense to hang with the big boys if Trent gets the ball to Lee Evans, T.O., Marshawn, and Fred Jackson. That’s the point.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 7, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nowhere did I say that Brian said Jauron couldn't understand the offense
Schonert implied that. And I said I had a hard time believing that.
Schonert said Jauron “wanted” a Pop Warner offense. He never said Jauron didn’t understand it. He took a swipe at Jauron, no quesion, but he never implied the other to my recollection.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 9, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Edwards
As a Bills’ fan, I’ve lost patience with Trent Edwards altogether. The organization really wants to believe they’ve finally found our long term QB, but the body of evidence just doesn’t add up. Other than the first six games of last season, Edwards’ performance has been a nightmare of timidness marked by an astounding amount of games where the offense as a whole has failed to produce and often has failed to even record a touchdown. I don’t care what his academic resume looks like, I see no reason to suspect he’s capable of succeeding at the no huddle when he hasn’t been good enough to date in a standard offense. Yeah, you can blame his production on Jauron’s horrendous choices in offensive coordinators (a problem Jauron had all the way back to Chicago), but at some point, Edwards should’ve emerged by now if there was ever something there to begin with. Other than Drew Brees, a majority of the better starting QBs around the league were good by their second year. That Ryan and Flacco were so much more advanced than Edwards in their rookie seasons displays how flimsy the experience excuse truly is in gauging QBs. Didn’t your guy win the whole thing in his first season as a starter? 0-6 in the division last year and we bring the whole sorry group back for part 2. I’m not even as high on New England this year as most people are and I still see no way the Bills keep this game within 17 or so…enjoy the season up there and I look forward to a time when our inept head coach is selling insurance and the beginning of an NFL season for Bills’ fans is filled with anticipation and excitement again instead of joylessness and dread.
B.S.
For a guy who’s only started in 23 games doesn’t it seem odd to take out six of them? If he played well in 6 games (or roughly 1/4 of his experience so far) why are you so sure he’s incapable of matching that good play? I mean he is 12-11 as a starter, and that includes some situations where he didn’t have a great opportunity to succeed. If we gave up on him before this season and he turned into the next Brees we’d really be kicking ourselves. This year with an outstanding receiving corps he’ll have a chance to reward our faith in him or (in all likelihood) move on to another team.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
the beginning of an NFL season for Bills’ fans is filled with anticipation and excitement again instead of joylessness and dread.
I’m very excited about the return of Bills football, I’m not sure why you’re coming on a division rivals site and bashing our team and then saying your speaking for Bills’ fans. I couldn’t disagree with you more.
Eli Manning was almost run out of town in his fourth year before coming out of nowhere to win the Super Bowl.
Philip Rivers didnt’ start until his third year, Aaron Rodgers didn’t start until his fourth year, Tony Romo didnt start till his fourth year, Matt Schaub didn’t start until his fourth year
Drew Brees didn’t emerge for over four seasons
Trent Edwards was a third rounder from Stanford that no one expected anything from. He was forced into the fire as a rookie for half a season and provided our team with a semblance of stability after years of JP Losman’s roller coaster ride. Last year was his first season as a starter and he came out of the gate looking great until Adrian Wilson laid an illegal helmet to helmet concussion from which he didn’t look the same. Why don’t you let Edwards get his third season, second as a full time starter, underway before you throw him under the bus?
To Pats fans, I’m glad Turk is gone, he was frustratingly difficult to watch on Sundays. From calling passing plays repetitively in goal line or third and one situations to running on third and long, the guy seemed to be thinking way too outside the box for his own good. Sometimes you need to run an offense the defense knows your going to run and demoralize them by not letting them stop it anyway, I’m sure Tom Brady and co know a thing or two about that. It scares me that we are going into an underdog Monday nighter with a new OC only days before but I hope that it might also throw Bellichick a bit off too, as he’s likely been planning for Schonert’s offense.
Jonathan Stupar played Russian Roulette with a fully loaded gun and won.
by poz on Sep 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
The dread I have for the upcoming Bills’ season is obviously my own personal viewpoint and certainly doesn’t speak for anybody else. If you’re enthusiastic with what you’ve seen from Trent Edwards in his career, we’re obviously not going to have a similar sense of anticipation for this season because I couldn’t disagree with your evaluation of his play any more. I see him as a marginal talent who has had serious issues with scoring production throughout his career. I don’t care when Rivers, Rodgers, or Romo finally got on the field, the fact is that like rookies Flacco and Ryan, when they DID get on the field they were more productive than Edwards has been. I’d love to be reading a Pats blog a week before the opener with an honest feeling that pulling off the upset was somewhat possible, but I can’t see it as a possibility. In my honest opinion, after watching how he performed down the stretch in 08 and the entire preseason, one of the main reasons we don’t match up well with New England is our subpar QB. That’s my evaluation and yours is just as valid. Hope you’re right though.
B.S.
by Benjamin Salem on Sep 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really think you really understand his argument. Maybe you should try reading Buffalo Rumblings, the Bills blog, that might help you grasp the situation better.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Why is a no huddle harder to execute that a standard offense? It’s not necessarily a hurry up offense. He will have more time to read the defense in the hurry up…
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 7, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Another Bills fans opinion. I think the Bills in many respects are trying to emulate the Colts success. Start with the fact that both are small market teams, trying to build through the draft, and employ a Tampa 2 as their base defense. And the Bills know they are not going to beat Belichick at his own game; the Colts/Manning provide a alternative philosophy that has arguably given the Patriots the most fits over the last several years.
I know Trent is no Peyton Manning, however I think the transition to no-huddle seen through this Buffalo/Indy lens makes perfect sense, (something Brian has alluded to recently.).
Another thing. Is there such as thing as being to smart for you own good? Head Coach from Yale. Trent went to Stanford. Our back-up QB is a Harvard grad. Schonert, also a Stanford grad, IMO was trying to be the smartest guy in the room (The “pop warner” offense comment gives you idea of what you’re dealing with). In the pre-season Trent was arguably over thinking the field and I’m hopeful that with Schonert gone, keeping it simple will only benefit this offense.
In any case good luck to your team this season!
One more thing: not only is Edwards not Peyton Manning, but Jauron is not Tony Dungy. I can almost guarantee you Dungy would have the Bills in the playoffs this year if he was the coach. With Jauron, the best you can hope for is 7-9.
I tend to think Jauron is like a poor man’s Dick LeBeau — a good enough coordinator, but just can’t make it as a head coach. (Of course, LeBeau is a great coordinator — hence the “poor man’s” reference.)
Well, that’s your opinion that “the best we can hope for is 7-9”, I happen to disagree. It certainly isn’t some kind of fact, and for all the bad press Jauron gets – he’s certainly made some gutsy and seemingly smart moves this offseason. The no-huddle should really play to our advantage, we’ll see if that’s how it works out.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Not necessarily
It’s not like the no-huddle is a new idea or something that whoever happens to be the Bill’s opposition will stress out over trying to circumvent. Peyton Manning’s been in the league for ten years, and plays nearly every single snap for that period, usually in a no-huddle. Pretty much every defensive co-ordinator or head coach worth his salt would be able to transfer over at least some of the schemes used to break up Manning’s no-huddle to a scheme to break up the respective no-huddle of the Bills… and Manning’s a far superior QB to Trent Edwards.
I don’t see how that’s relevant at all. I said the no-huddle should play to our advantage – as in the strengths of our offense will be enhanced in the no-huddle while the weaknesses diminished. Few people disagree that one of Trent’s strengths is his intellect, which is important in running a no-huddle. Similarly few people disagree that a weakness of our offense is the OL – while the no-huddle is known for masking line deficiencies. Furthermore, you mention the “schemes used to break up Manning’s no-huddle” but you fail to recognize that even with these “schemes” the Colts have been relatively successful as of late, despite decidedly mediocre play in certain areas – why would the Bills not want to mimic the success of the Colts if they could?
Maybe the no-huddle won’t work out. That doesn’t change the idea that it was gutsy to implement it and it seems as though it should be an advantage for us.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
But that ISN’T the point at all. Can’t something make a player better without making that player the best? I mean that’s like saying I’ll believe Brady is back ONLY if he wins superbowl MVP this year. He could have an outstanding year without that though.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
But that's just it
AFC East is very, very competitive this year. You literally have to be the best to get out of the division and into the playoffs. If Edwards isn’t on a par with a Manning/Brady/Brees level, they really don’t have a hope.
That’s your opinion, but I said all along that Jauron’s moves this offseason should make us better, not necessarily division winners. Besides, an 11 win season would surely be an impressive improvement – but I think you know how that can turn out. You said 7-9 was the best we could hope for, I still disagree.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
I don't think I said anything about any numbers, actually
I haven’t looked at the Bills schedule, so I’m not sure who they’re playing. There are definitely some around I’d expect them to beat, maybe even the Jets in the East. I just don’t think that their passing game is going to be what gets them there, if they do win a few.
Since I follow the Bills every day I know a good deal about their personnel. I believe the no-huddle emphasizes our offensive strengths and masks our offensive weaknesses and as a result I believe that the no-huddle Jauron envisions will be an advantage. As far as I can tell your only objection to that is that Edwards isn’t Manning – which no one thinks he is. We do think that Edwards is a smart, accurate passer who COULD excel in a no-huddle.
I’m not really sure what your argument is in saying that our passing won’t win us games. Edwards showed ability to not only win, but win with dramatic 4th quarter comebacks, last year – and that was before our offense was improved by the addition of a HOF receiver. To be honest though, I could hardly care less. If we win because of our special teams I’ll take it.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
I agree, to an extent
The no-huddle will go a certain distance towards making a patchwork Bills O-line look better than it is. This might keep Edwards upright a little more than would otherwise be expected, and yes, that helps.
I just don’t think the institution of a no-huddle by itself will go far enough as to win games. The way the Bills trumpeted the institution of the no-huddle, hiring an OC that was involved in its inception, etc etc, you’d think it was the second coming of the 2008 Wildcat. And that’s the thing – the 2008 Wildcat had the longevity of 5 or 6 games before it was shut down as just another formation. The no-huddle doesn’t even have that novelty – defensive co-ordinators have had years to dream up ways to beat the Colts version.
And my main concern about Edwards not being Manning-like isn’t Edward’s physical attributes or throwing ability. Edwards can throw. He’s also smart. I just haven’t seen anything to suggest that Edwards has the on-field gravitas of Manning, and that personality is the reason the no-huddle works so well in Indy. Edwards being batted around between the Head Coach and Offensive Co-ordinator just goes further to convince me that he’s more likely to get mauled by TO than he is to be a successful field-general.
I think I understand the discrepancy between our opinions now. You seem to think of the no-huddle as a kind of trick, designed to catch defenses off-guard and/or surprise them – similar to the wildcat. That is NOT my perception of the goal of the no-huddle. One important distinction is that we’re running a no-huddle, not a hurry-up. Sometimes, Edwards will use the entire play clock before snapping the ball, sometimes he will snap it quickly, but the main thing is to make defenses think he COULD snap the ball at any second – thereby limiting substitutions and giving our offense a better opportunity to dictate what it wants to do (run the same few plays repeatedly and well – forcing a defense to prove it can stop them, plays that even Edwards can make: quick slants, play action passes, outside fades, and other throws that rely on accuracy more then velocity). The idea isn’t really to catch a defense unsuspecting but rather to wear it down – which is one reason our limited success in running the football in the preseason is less of a concern to me.
I see your point about Edwards not being the most assertive guy, but I think the no-huddle will be good in that regards too. It will force him to be more assertive. Maybe he’ll fail and the whole thing will collapse – if so we’ll probably be looking for a new quarterback because if Trent can’t succeed in these conditions it’s not likely he’ll ever succeed. That being said he is 12-11 as a starter and has shown flashes, so we remain optimistic.
In summation – I completely agree, the no-huddle has limited to no novelty. That doesn’t change the fact that giving a DE 4 seconds to get ready for the next play is going to neutralize his ability to get to the QB to an extent, for example. It showed in the HOF game, once or twice the DL was standing with their hands on their hips when the ball was snapped and a quick slant to TO was able to gain us 15 yards. Everyone knew the no-huddle was coming in that game, it wasn’t some sort of secret, but it still looked pretty effective. It seems like we’re mostly agreeing – the no-huddle COULD help improve our offense (no guarantees) despite it having no novelty.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
Given the Bills run game, and the acquisition of a certain WR
I’d have personally thought that a lot of play-action pass would be effective. Shut down the run, or shut down the decent WR pairing deep. Put the onus on the opposition secondary to choose. No-huddle doesn’t necessarily do that.
Actually, I think it does. Play action can be a big part of a no-huddle, and the new philosophy is going to be predicated around running a few plays really well – that could very easily be one of them.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
And Edwards hasn't shown he's capable yet of playing those few plays very well
He might be capable. He might be cerebral enough. But he’s had every opportunity thus far to manage an offence and show he’s capable of running “a few plays well”, and hasn’t done so yet. This isn’t a league that rewards mediocrity. And if he doesn’t… well, we’ve seen what TO does to a malfunctioning team.
No huddle offenses don’t use play actions? Watch an Indy game and tell me they don’t use the PA pass.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Sep 7, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
But I've already noted that Edwards isn't Manning...
which was my hesitation about declaring it a brilliant move in the first place. Edwards has done none of the things to inspire such confidence in his abilities that Manning has done. And if he doesn’t do them quickly, he’ll have an angry TO to deal with.
But you said you thought PA passes would be effective. I know they will use them but you seem to be implying they won’t. Just trying to clear it up.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 8, 2009 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
What?! Why does running the no huddle not allow us to use play action? We will probably have a RB on the field…
Edwards has not had the chance to show that he can perform “those couple of plays” well because he admitted to getting mixed signals from his OC and HC, what would you do or think? Would it confuse you?… You don’t know what the exact plays were or how many reads Sheonert gave Trent per play.
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by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 7, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Again the comparison to Manning does nicely
Manning owns his no-huddle offence. That’s why I don’t see Edwards pulling it off – Manning’s barking out orders, reads, adjustments, scrubbing plays, modifying routes, everything.
You honestly expect Trent Edwards to order TO where to go or what route he will run in a no-huddle? He gets jerked around by the Head Coach and Offensive Co-ordinator like a shiny toy between two toddlers. You pretty much made my point for me.
You honestly expect Trent Edwards to order TO where to go or what route he will run in a no-huddle?
Yes I do.
He gets jerked around by the Head Coach and Offensive Co-ordinator like a shiny toy between two toddlers.
Cute simile, but I don’t think I made your point. Trent being confused due to conflicting philosophies and an OC that didn’t listen to his boss, the Head Coach, made a communication problem. I think if your Boss and your supervisor were telling you to do two different things on the same day, you would be confused to. Therefore, our OC was fired. The offense is becoming streamlined and simplified. The onus is, now more than ever, on Trent to be the man. Trent will own his offense, but I don’t believe that Manning owned his as early as Trent will. A strong statement I know, but we’ll see what happens in a week.
Delightfully Ignoring The Truth since 1995.
by NeverendingOptimism on Sep 8, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
7-9 is wishful thinking I belive.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that’s fine, you’re welcome to think whatever you want. Thankfully your opinion doesn’t make it so.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
no but Dick Jauron does.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So the way Jauron coached in the past (conservatively) means the way he’s coaching now (aggressively) has no chance of success. Sorry, but I don’t buy that. I’ll admit I’m not the biggest fan of Jauron, but I’m not close-minded enough to discount the possibility of success in what he does. He’s a smart guy, I’m inclined to believe he’ll make progress.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
thats great for you to believe......
but theres something about past history being a good predictor of the future….plus the schedule isnt as manageable as last years.
Its gonna be a long season I fear.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, the past is a predictor to a point. Hence my pointing out the philosophy change. Using the past as a predictor of the future only works when there is little change – and even then it’s unreliable. With all the changes that have happened this offseason I don’t see how you can really think things will be the same.
I don’t understand what there is to fear if you’re so sure the Bills have no chance. That’s like fearing the sun is going to set. How can you be afraid of something you know is going to happen?
If I thought the Bills had no chance I wouldn’t even watch the games.
"We want to win immediately. To say you're building is an incomplete sentence. ... You're building for a future coach and general manager."
-Marv Levy
call me a glutton for punishment.
Godspeed Nick - RIP - 1986-2009
by norcaliangelsfan on Sep 7, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe they're instituting the no-huddle
so Trent Edwards doesn’t have to face the wrath of a catchless TO in the huddle. “Hide me from TO! He’s coming! I don’t want to be Romo’d.”
doesn't he usually grant his new team a 1-year honeymoon?
after that, all bets are off
Keep the faith!
There are plenty of reasons for the line on the Bills-Pats games to be 10+. For example, the Pats have thumped the Bills in most of the matchups over the past couple of years with games like the Wind Bowl (at the Ralph last year) being abberrations. Jauron is routinely outcoached. The Bills haven’t generated any real pass rush against first team offenses in the preseason, to say nothing of the past couple of seasons.
The Schonert firing, on the other hand, isn’t any sort of advantage for the Pats. At the 2009 Combine Schonert gave an interview to buffalobills.com in which he stated flat out that scoring in the last two minutes of the half was overrated. He didn’t have any issue at all with the offense squandering multiple time outs each and every game. Dumping Schonert makes the Bills better.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
just curious
what was so attractive about him for Jauron to have promoted him to OC last season? It seems such a huge disconnect to have happened over a one-year span.
Keep the faith!
Can’t Schonert just not be what he promised? Jauron continuously asked him to do something with the offense and he never did. He tried to out think and out formation everyone instead of actually, ya know, score on them. Turk was qualified enough for the job. He had been a QB coach for years. He just never took the next step. It happens with players all the time. It happened with Turk, too.
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by MattRichWarren on Sep 7, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Continuity
Jauron promoted Schonert when the painfully inept Steve Fairchild left for a college gig…which saved him from being canned. The idea was that Schonert would run the same basic offense as Fairchild so Edwards wouldn’t need to learn a new offense and terminology. Apparently, the thought that Fairchild’s terrible offense would be just as bad under Schonert never occurred to Jauron.
Of course we could make things more challenging, Lisa, but then the stupider students would be in here complaining, furrowing their brows in a vain attempt to understand the situation--Seymour Skinner
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