Greg Lewis Released
Patriots released Greg Lewis today.
Source: Mike Reiss
"The Patriots released receiver Greg Lewis today, according to a league source.
Lewis, a seven-year veteran, was acquired from the Eagles in March. The Patriots acquired Lewis along with a seventh-round draft choice for a fifth-round draft pick.
The 29-year-old Lewis, who spent the first six years of his career with the Eagles, was thought to be in competition for the No. 3 or 4 receiver spot.
The Patriots have Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Joey Galloway, Sam Aiken and Julian Edelman at receiver."
They also claimed DB Bret Lockett (UCLA) off waivers from the Browns
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i was just informed of this … good work. i was personally SHOCKED. the guy was better than galloway.
by bforce3 on Sep 7, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow... the plot thickens
I leave the computer for ONE SECOND… and this is what I get.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Sep 7, 2009 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i have a feeling this means julian edleman is amazing. (i hope)
by bforce3 on Sep 7, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was a good pickup for you guys. Im not sure why the Browns waived him.
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by BradyQuinnisBeast on Sep 7, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
This one’s a surprise. I thought the WRs were locked down. I’m not sure what this one says about the team, unless it’s a vote of no confidence in the defensive backfield. And even then, I wouldn’t have thought Lewis would be the first off the list.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 7, 2009 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On a whim
Any news about Branch? Doubt it, but… there are only a few who could come in at a late stage and pick up the system, and he’d be one.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 7, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW very shocked by this...
I really, really, really liked our core of WR’s and was not expecting this at all… Maybe AJ Feeley will be coming over to be our backup QB since he was just released by the Eagles or someone for our defensive backfield like Comedic.Sans said.
by Mike-Dub on Sep 7, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a bit surprised but claiming a db off waivers to use roster spott I’d of thought they would’ve grabbed Feely with the spot
by quimby999 on Sep 7, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What this means is Nunn is going to be moved up in his place.
by NESPORTS on Sep 7, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pats smart—My guess::BB has lots of receivers. He wants to get Nunn on practice sqaud as
Nunn still only a reserve. Hoping he clears waivers.He does as BB guessed. Lewis makes so much more dollars than Nunn, but Nunn as good as Lewis at least potentially. Why pay more? Lewis would be 6th receiver-caught only one pass or so in pre season.Bill gets what he wants. Nunn can play!Can bring Nunn on active roster if he wants. Nunn can be kick returner also.
by viennafan on Sep 8, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Pats stockpile first round picks and just toss late rounders in the garbage.
I guess when you are a largely free agent built team you can do that.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 8, 2009 12:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not really. look at draft pick history. we drafted no1 in first round this year. we build on the low rounds…so im missing that.
by bforce3 on Sep 8, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free agent built team
That’s only telling half of the story. The Patriots build through the draft just as much as anyone, as the nine (or so) rookies to make the roster this year would attest to. Although we do seem to be acquiring quite a bit of high-round picks lately.
by NESilver on Sep 8, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well compared to Indy just about every team looks FA built
and yeah both are you are right about it being early picks, not just 1st rounders.
Just saying that the Pats seems to put little value on late picks, trading them for marginal vets that don’t even make the team, while working hard to pile up early picks.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 8, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to drafting marginal rookies who don't make the team?
I don’t consider them a waste, given how hard it is to make this roster – just ask Paris Lenon, Victor Hobson, Greg Lewis, etc. It’s far preferable to either burn 5th rounders trading for marginal guys, or drafting rookies who don’t make the team, than the alternative. Just look at the Jets – care to guess how annoyed they are with the Gholston pick? He’s not good enough to make the team, they can’t trade him because he’s horrible, and he has such a large signing bonus that if they cut him, they’ll basically be paying him a large wage to do absolutely nothing and sit in free agency anyway.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 8, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but with Vets you usually know pretty well what you are getting
so then when that turns out to not be good enough to make the team it’s a lot easier to fault the FO for blowing the pick. When you have a rookie, it’s less certain. Maybe they aren’t any good at all and you’d be better off with the vet (but if neither are good enough for the roster that doesn’t really matter), but maybe they come in and show you something.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 8, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as you remember it cuts both ways
Alllllllllll those experts who a couple of years ago were saying the Pats got robbed of their pick to trade for Randy Moss, because he had character issues, didn’t care, might be injured, doesn’t want to play any more, hates everyone, etc etc.
That was a gamble, too, and I’d bet all those nay-sayers thought the Pats should’ve kept their draft pick and never even looked at picking up Moss. And then 2007 happened. Can we say “air raid”?
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 8, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moss was more like a draft pick in risk/reward than an Alex Smith or a Greg Lewis
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 8, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, but he was also older than both Smith and Lewis
So he had less chance of “developing”, as such. Down in those lower rounds, you’re getting guys who might have high upside, but have enough question marks over something or other that they’re a risk. That’s fine if you need a boom-or-bust player to change a 2-10 season into a 10-2 season, but when you’re consistently good (and the Pats are) then you want known commodities to fill bit-part roles. That’s easier to find in free agency or in trades than it is in drafts. Is a fifth-round rookie WR from some obscure school able to be a Wes-Welker-like WR/KR/PR at NFL level? Don’t know? Trade a fifth-round pick for a guy who has a proven track-record of being one. If you eventually trade a guy who can do it (a la Edelman) then all you’ve lost is a low-round pick who probably wouldn’t make the team anyway.
Plus – Belichick seems to have a unnatural ability to bleed low round picks out of other teams if/when he shifts around the draft board. If necessary, he’ll make those back on draft day.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 8, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think it's a matter of team talent, but about how you build your team
if you plan on filling holes in the starting lineup with free agents, then sure, move the late rounders for guys that will definitely play the bit part you need, but if free agency is a last resort then you want your players to be able to develop into starters. You don’t get a Robert Mathis or Antoine Bethea by trading a late round pick.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 8, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats ok that means...
Galloway is showed something and Adelman will be the next Welker. Im predicting
It may be now..it may be later...later aint gonna be no use! Am I right Al? We got alot of angry guys in their black panthers,muslims, young lords, besides you average anti-socials. We gotta go in, am I right, clean their clocks!
by Peter Chung on Sep 8, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Failure
This is surprising and definitely an example of bad work from BB / The front office. When you trade for a veteran you expect him to make the team.
Cutting your losses in time is still the right move though.
by hythlodaeus on Sep 8, 2009 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you never know for sure
until you kick the tires for a bit and then have to make a decision. He may still be good… just not good enough to be one of the 53.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Sep 8, 2009 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mistakes are made
It’s not like I’m calling for anybody’s head or anything, but the FO missed with both Lewis and Alex Smith. Considering we put a lot of faith in also-traded Derrick Burgess, that is not too reassuring.
But of course: There was no way of knowing Edelmans development, when the trade for Lewis was made.
by hythlodaeus on Sep 8, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We grabbed Greg Lewis pre-draft
We didn’t know who we would pick up. He was a good safety net, but he’s no longer needed with the talent we have.
We grabbed Alex Smith and Chris Baker to kick their tires. Baker’s had more air, so they kept him.
I don’t look at either of them as a swing and a miss. They were both good insurance policies that we no longer need.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 8, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
It’s a fifth rounder. They traded out a fifth rounder to get him, are you saying they automatically expect a round 5 pick to make the team, too? Doubt it. They give the guy a chance, and he didn’t take it. They cut him, they’re back to where they started, no big loss. Who in the fifth round would you a) have choosen instead, and b) absolutely guarantee to make the roster?
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 8, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No great loss
Loosing a fifth-rounder is obviously not the end of the world.
However, I don’t think you can compare spending a draft pick in a trade to actually drafting a player in the draft. All draft picks are essentially lottery tickets because none of them have ever played a single snap in the NFL. Every pick can get you a HoF or a bust, no matter the round. (Though the chance of hitting the jackpot is obviously better at the high end of the draft – unless you are the Raiders – because there is a larger pool of players to choose from.)
When you trade for a player with a draft pick, you buy a known commodity. Lewis had already played five years for the Eagles, so it was pretty clear what he could bring to the table. It is a low risk – low reward situation, so IMO it is a failure when a traded-for player doesn’t even make the team.
by hythlodaeus on Sep 9, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
People are saying it’s like a massive loss to trade out a fifth for a proven (if later, undesirable) commodity. I think it’s safe to assume Lewis would’ve stuck around if Edelman hadn’t done well; he did, so Lewis wasn’t needed. It’s a sign of good roster management, not bad.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 9, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nunn?
Seems like could be good for him…one less player above him in Bill’s mind.
Sucks that he turned out a lemon and we couldn’t get any value but I still feel like we have tons of weapons.
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
by Mainiac on Sep 8, 2009 11:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lemon? Bit harsh
He was picked up specifically to be the fourth or fifth WR. The fact that Edelman came on so well, Nunn making it onto the practice squad (and therefore being a capable reserve if necessary), the unexpected roster shifting at other positions, etc, all meant that Lewis was suddenly superfluous. It’s more a sign of the Pats strength than a particular weakness of Belichick.
I’d far prefer dropping a good-but-unnecessary player to needing to keep a so-so player around because the roster is awful. It’s a sign of strength and confidence, not weakness.
by Comedic.Sans on Sep 8, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Lewis is now a Viking
Brett Favre will attempt to break his hands. Good luck Greg.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Sep 10, 2009 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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