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New England Patriots Links 1/28/10 - Wilfork: "I Played My Tail Off"

Time to show him the money.

Time to show him the money.

Shalise Manza Young offers her thoughts on the Vince Wilfork contract situation.

"I want a long-term deal, or I want to be free," Wilfork said in an appearance Wednesday on WEEI radio. "Point blank. And that’s how I’m looking at it. That’s how my family is looking at it. It’s a short window of opportunity for me to go and make the type of money that I want to make. And hey, like I said, family comes first."

Wilfork’s agent, Kennard McGuire, and the Patriots have not talked terms on an extension since before the start of the regular season, Wilfork said.

It would be surprising if New England did not elect to use its franchise tag on Wilfork. If that happens, it would then be surprising to see Wilfork at Gillette Stadium before Week 10 next season, the last week he could arrive and receive an accrued season.

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Colts president Bill Polian is upset about the Pro Bowl set up this year: (and I heartily agree with him on this point.)

"It's stupid. It's a disruption, but we'll deal with it."

"Well, we'll come back to practice on Wednesday. We'll practice Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. They'll have off Saturday. If it weren't for the Pro Bowl disruption, they would have the weekend off, but they can't because we have to send those players to Miami to do Lord knows what. We'll come back and practice on Sunday and the Pro Bowl players will go and do whatever they have to do and then the team will leave on Monday.

(Host: So the Pro Bowl players you will fly down there and they just fly back that day?) I don't know that they fly them back. I think they plan to keep them down there that evening. They haven't even told us yet what this is all about. We don't even have any details or anything like that. Maybe they will call us Friday and tell us.

In any event the fact of the matter is that we're thinking that they're down there Sunday night and they will meet us Monday, which is a hell of a thing isn't it? It sends a great message to all the young people out there and all the coaches that talk teamwork that you take your best seven players and split them up from your team at the ultimate moment in sports."

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I thought the Super Bowl teams didn’t have to send their players. Is it just a matter of they don’t have to play, but they still have to fly down for publicity, etc.? I’d be pissed too. Those guys need to be preparing for the biggest game of the year, not flying off for photo ops for a game no one cares about.

"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver

by rebop on Jan 28, 2010 11:33 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't get this
It would be surprising if New England did not elect to use its franchise tag on Wilfork. If that happens, it would then be surprising to see Wilfork at Gillette Stadium before Week 10 next season, the last week he could arrive and receive an accrued season.

Why? There is always a lot of discussion until an extension is signed, but most players with a franchise tag is signed at least by the end of training camp.

by hythlodaeus on Jan 28, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Slapping him with the tag is a bargaining tool.

It keeps other teams from making meaningful offers to him, knowing that if he were to accept and the Pats decline to match, they’ll have to give up two first-round picks. Players aren’t too fond of this, because it keeps teams from engaging in bidding wars for their services. Players are forced between accepting the one-year tender and playing the season (or at least showing up at Week 10), risking career-ending injury with no future security, or signing a contract that will likely be less than what they could have gotten had other teams had real freedom to submit offers.

Obviously, not a happy situation for any player.

by nbradley07 on Jan 28, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I know

I was questioning why Young expected Vilford to hold out until week 10 when that practically never happens.

by hythlodaeus on Jan 28, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Michael Holley doesn't think he'd hold out either

Holley knows that Vince is an emotional guy and he feels that Vince was just saying how he felt at that time, but didn’t get the impression that a 10-week holdout was an option for a player with his integrity. I’m just hoping this will all be an afterthought in a couple of weeks.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Jan 28, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft hopefulls

2nd round: Sean Witherspoon and WR Andre Roberts.

1st round: Everson Griffen, Corey Wootton, Carlos Dunlap, and Sergio Kindle.

If we get both second round guys, and one of these first rounders, I’ll be happy.

by patriotguy on Jan 28, 2010 2:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And if I might make a 7th round suggestion -- O'Brien Schofield

He just tore an ACL at the Senior Bowl so he should be available then, but this kid is one of the hardest workers I’ve ever seen — I got my PhD at Wisconsin, so I follow the football team there pretty closely — and looked like he was making the transition from DE to OLB very well. It’s rare that you get much value right away from a 7th rounder anyway, Julian Edelman notwithstanding, so stash this kid on IR for a year and he’ll come back healthy and ready to contribute in 2011 like the 3rd or 4th rounder he probably would have been without the injury.

by RSNexile on Jan 28, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he was good @ wisconsin

little undersized …sucks he tore his acl @ the senior bowl

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The kid has a huge heart

Someone would have taken a chance on him in the middle rounds, so if he’s around in the 7th, we ought to take a shot. As I said, stash him on IR for a year so he can recover and see what he can do in 2011.

by RSNexile on Jan 28, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i remember @ the ohio state game

he had a big motor. reminds me of a slightly slower matthis

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think bb will make a move for a WR

in the 2nd round….maybe latter in the 4th rd and later

they need to build the offensive and defensive trenches with these 4 picks in the 1st n 2nd rounds

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If your QB has all day in the pocket to decide and wait

then even average receivers will inevitably break free.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the guy has great upside

excellent in route running, and excellent catching the ball. That’s my kind of WR. Don’t try and confuse him with Jackson. Jackson had troubles with route running, and to me, route running is key for a WRs success.

by patriotguy on Jan 28, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

who are u talking about.? roberts or witherspoon

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

roberts

witherspoon is an OLB.

by patriotguy on Jan 28, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can he return kicks?

The only WRs Hoodie have drafted in the top 3 rounds – Chad Jackson, 2nd round, 36th pick in 2006; Bethel Johnson, 2nd round, 45th overall in 2003; Deion Branch, 2nd round, 65th overall in 2002; Brandon Tate, 3rd round, 83rd overall – were all projected as better-than-average KRs and/or PRs. Deion Branch is the only one that elevated himself above ‘merely’ being a KR/PR, and became a #1 (although, more of a #2+) wideout. That leads me to believe that Hoodie will only draft WRs in the early rounds if he can guarantee value out of them – ie: even if they suck as WRs, at least he’ll get use out of them as returners. Value value value.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

According to nfldraftscout, and one of those sites

he can. And I heard he’s a monster in open space. Plus Tate is good at KR as well. So yes, he can definitely return kicks.

by patriotguy on Jan 28, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if Hoodie would use anything higher than a third on a WR this year

There’s too many holes to patch in the trenches and D. Belichick has always been a D-first kind of guy, that’s why there are so many first-round D-linemen around New England. I don’t think that’d change, especially for a skill player when there are trench-player slots to fill.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jared orteck 34 DE penn state has impressed scouts at the senior bowl

hmm….so conflicted in picking a 3-4olb or a 3-4 DE in the 1st rd.

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How big is he?

I really see the Pats wanting to replace Seymour with someone who always gets double-teamed – ie someone BIG.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

they said he can play 3-4 DE

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117620

might be a good choice

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

plus he got into a bar fight and got cited for disorderly conduct…so we know he can be a thug like seymour lol

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha

I’m always suspect when they say he can play 3-4 – I’m not always sure they mean the two-gap version, which usually means they’re bigger space-cloggers.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/82873527.html

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure if pyror can learn the 2 gap, this kid can do it to.

@ penn state, he was the dominating force on that d-line, often taking double teams. he can pass rush and run stop.
his body/size reminds me of king richard of seymourland.

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what the Pats are after...

very interesting.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i'm sure they can find a olb in the 2nd round....so hard not to get a double teaming de who can rush and stop the run

i’m sure ricky sapp from clemson will be there in the 2nd round

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 28, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As if to prove the point

The highest OLB Hoodie has drafted was actually Shawn Crable – 3rd round, 75th pick. After that, the next one was a a 6th round, 180th pick, Justin Rodgers.

By comparison, he’s drafted DEs at 1st, 6th; 1st, 13th; 2nd, 63rd; 4th, 126th and 5th, 161 and 6th, 201st pick.

In other words, all but one of the DEs Hoodie has drafted – there were 6 of them – were higher than all but two of the OLBs. He clearly doesn’t like drafting OLBs in comparison to DEs.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Jan 28, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

though

if they have a chance to pounce on that kid from idaho…pick him. kid can play all 5 positions on the offensive line.

wonder if the Hoodie would trade up (therefore giving up a 2nd rounder) also to take jared if they also took that Guard from Idaho

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 29, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That man is a GIANT!!!

Look how small that helmet seems in his hand!

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by JohnHannahRules on Jan 29, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 29, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol imagine him coming down on manning or any qb

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 29, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well we have 3 2nd rounders

I wouldn’t be surprised if hoodie picks up a WR or RB with one of those.

by patriotguy on Jan 29, 2010 7:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

again

he isn’t going to pick him a WR. he had the change to pick up brian robiski or brian hartline (two guys who fit the system) and he didn’t. this WR corp isn’t that great this year.
A RB is a possibility but not a WR. maybe later in the 4th and onwards

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by NinjaZX6R on Jan 29, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you never know.

I like him. He’s one of my hopefuls. I understand that you think belichek won’t go with a WR in the second round, but he may consider it.

by patriotguy on Jan 31, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wilfork: "I Played My Tail Off"

I laugh every time I read that. I get what he’s saying, but take another look, Vince. You’ve got plenty of TAIL to go.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Jan 29, 2010 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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