ESPN.com: Welker has torn ACL and MCL
by jctsai12 on Jan 3, 2010 6:50 PM EST
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PrintAccording to ESPN.com (Boston), a "source close to the situation" told Adam Schefter that Welker has torn both the ACL and MCL in his knee. More testing and an MRI has been scheduled for Monday.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4792582
Nauseating. I have no idea how to feel right now. The playoffs don't even seem relevant, I'm just sick for a guy who has been the epitome of a professional football player and a true New England Patriot suffering a severe injury like this. No one deserves this kind of stroke of bad luck, but it seems particularly unfair for Wes, who embodies "shut up and play" like no one else.
While we can hold out hope the initial injury reports are wrong, no matter what the result I think every Pats fan around the globe is just hoping that Wes gets healthy -- not from a football standpoint, but for his life outside and after football too.
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i love wes welker… my favorite player.. poor guy..
is he a free agent next year?
or is he still under contract?
He signed a five year deal when the Pats traded for him
We still have him under contract for two more years.
yes!!!
thats great news… hope to see him back out there in week 1 next year tearing up the league and breakign the REC record
hoping he comes back next year better than ever
this is a major blow. i’m hoping Welker gets healthy and does his thing next year. maybe we can get a 3rd reciever to take some pressure of him.
Not really
He’s more of a wideout than a slot receiver, and we need him to be the wideout opposite Moss next year.
Edelman is going to have to fill Welker’s shoes, at least for the playoffs and the start of next season.
Edelman and Stanback, yeah
Edelman’s quite impressive, and Stanback seems to have fairly sure hands. Not sure they’d add up to Welker, but the Pats aren’t entirely bereft of slot receiver depth, either.
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HUH?
i am talking about next year when its randy moss and wes welker 1 and 2…. brandon tate will be our 3rd reciiever…. to take some pressure of wes…
i didnt say tate was a slot reciver
I guess I misread your comment
I thought you were saying that Tate would fill in for Welker while he recovers.
fktard pollard said he heared the pop and cries from wes as he did when brady went down last year
no good karma for us
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He sure walked away nonchalantly for a guy who claims he heard a pop
And the putz also launched himself at Hoyer. I didn’t think he was a dirty player last year when he took out Brady, but this was a dirty hit.
Hope he gets well soon...
I agree with jctsai12; the playoffs seem irrelevant when the major part of the heart of our Patriots is injured. It is obvious that the Patriot’s nation is behind Wes so here is wishing him well and a speedy and safe (i.e. not complicated) recovery. He’ll be back when its best for him to be back and we’ll all be here to cheer him on when he does.
From a Colts Fan
Wishing him well, and that the reports are wrong. Never like to see anyone injured. Good luck the rest of the way.
Thanks
I’d hope Pats fans would do the same were any of the Colts key players injured.
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by Comedic.Sans on Jan 3, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
That's really awful
I always loved the way Welker played, and how he acted like a man after Clark’s hit on him last season. I hope that he makes a full recovery for next season, when our teams meet in Pittsburgh! Oh yes, beat the Ravens!
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I can't believe this is happening! Sad. Can we win it for WES!
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by Yardpenalty.com on Jan 4, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Wes we can!
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
Could be horribly long term
Brady was ready Day 1 only because his injury happened in week 1. It’s very unlikely that Welker is ready even for next year, at best he starts on the PUP list. Welker doesn’t deserve this.
This is just horrible. At least Brady’s injury only affected one season…
brady had some complications to it too...
i doubt that welker will be out any more then the first few weeks of next year at most..
but it's easier for a QB to come back than a WR
Welker is as tough as they come though.
Keep the faith!
Especially a guy like Welker
It’s all stop-start, shifty, side-to-side running, with a lot of pivoting and jinking. All of which puts the knee ligaments through more than merely running in a straight line.
I hope he doesn’t come back too soon, learn to compensate for his lack of agility, and become a lesser player because he gets too used to not playing with two working knees. It’d suck to see him rush himself back and learn to cope with playing injured, rather than heal fully and train back to 100% Slot Machine-ness.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Jan 3, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
If what I am hearing is correct, I expect him to miss all next year.
TWO (not one, but TWO) torn ligaments in the knee? It will take a full calendar year to heal and rehab to begin to be the player that he needs to be to play in the NFL.
As you say – Welker’s whole identity as an athlete is predicated on his ability to go into and out of a cut faster than any other human. He HAS to have his knees back 100%.
I really hope they DON’T do anything stupid and try to rush him back. Just bank him for a season and effectively give him two years to heal. Please.
It really depends on how complete the injuries are
If he completely tore the ligaments, he could miss the whole season but will probably be ready by the bye week. If they’re only partially torn, he could easily be back, if not completely ready, by opening day.
Welker
New here. Pats fan since they beat the Rams in SB XXXVI…the team that up and left us teamless in the OC for new digs in StLou. Watching Wes in tears on the sideline realizing the severity of his injury was heartbreaking. Losing him is about as bad as losing TomTerrific last year. Edelman’s has looked good @ times but depending on a rookie to fill the league leader in receptions shoes?!?!
agreed
Edelman has shown some real positive signs, and has been learning from the best, but he can’t replace what we have with Welker.
Keep the faith!
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the more i watch the video the more i wanna cry/throw up!!! I feel so bad for Wes. He works so hard for every yard he gets and to have this end his season is just wrong. The Pats still have the Tin Man and the Scarecrow but they have lost their Lion…
carson palmer tore up his ACL and his MCL in jan 06
and he came back by the 3rd week of the preseason of 2006….so hopefully Wes heals up faster…hopefully isn’t as bad as Carson’s injury ( which was nearly career ending) but i guess its different from a wr to a qb…cause wes needs his knee to cut.
hopefully it takes 8 months and not a year and a half like some people are saying.
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Palmer arguably wasn't the same player until 2009, though
And he’s in a position where he doesn’t have to be able to run at 100% speed, agility and acceleration. I really hope it’s not like Palmer’s injury, to be honest – it really took about two, maybe even three seasons for Palmer to look entirely comfortable.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
palmer in 06 was good.
he actually made a remarkable comeback from his injury. nfl people were actually impressed . he had around 4000 yards passing w. 28 td and 13 int…just like Brady. however his team sucked in 06 and 07.
but his elbow injury in 08, i think, still bothers him now…he hasn’t had a good year in 09.
but if Wes has a similar injury like Palmer ( which i doubt bc Palmer was hit dead on his kneecap..he basically tore everything in his knee) Wes might not play in ’10.
i think they will let it the mcl to heal (4 weeks) and then do surgery on the acl (just like TB). but i hope he heals faster, and get the surgery out of the way, so he can rehab.
Can he wear a brace nxt season or is that impossible for a WR esp one like Wes?
i guess he will go to Dr. Andrews.
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Palmer *threw* pretty well, yes, but that's not my point.
Before his injury, Palmer was pretty quick and agile for a big QB – he could lope around the backfield, break tackles, jink and bust runs in a way reminiscent of Roethlisberger.
If you look at his pocket presence: before his injury, he had only been sacked 44 times for a total of 283 yards lost. In 2006 alone he was sacked 36 times for 233 yards. Ergo: Palmer couldn’t avoid sacks after his injury, as he had no agility or movement.
If you look at his rushing totals: before his injury he had rushed 52 times for 88 yards and 2 TDs. In 2006 he rushed 26 times for 37 yards and no TDs. Ergo: after his injury, he found it harder to run and his average and effectiveness went down.
If you look at his fumbles: before his injury, he had fumbled 7 times and lost it 4. In 2006 he fumbled 15 times and lost it 7. Ergo: the defence got far better quality of hits on him when it got to him in 2006, because he was a sitting duck.
All I said was that Palmer didn’t get back to 100% speed, agility and acceleration in 2006, and took more than one season to get there. The throwing stats of Palmer (and Brady) just show QBs can get away with playing without full speed, agility or acceleration. Quite frankly, Wes can’t. Wes without full speed, agility or acceleration is like Palmer or Brady with ripped arm ligaments.
Comparing Wes’s recovery with a QB (even if the same injury) doesn’t make too much sense – they do completely different things. It’d be better to compare his recovery with someone from a a position that is comparable. Perhaps Cadillac Williams (gag). Not that I want anything like that for Welker.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
he's done till 2011
I have to agree with the prognosis that for a shifty guy who relies on his legs almost more then his super glue hands, he’s gonna be a while. What I also see is this, Randy Moss has now got to step up and go over the middle. He is a better receiver then Welker and with his height he should work well as a Brady blanket. If 5’ 9" can take a hit so can 6’4" 220.
The patriots will lose to Baltimore and either Moss or Wilfork will not be with the team next year. I would prefer to lose Moss and keep Wilfork that of course unless Brace and Pryor become monsters overnight. The Pats must rebuild a bit on offense it’s that simple. Season over!
I expect that they will continue to use Moss as a decoy - maybe even moreso
to try to open up the middle even more than when they have Welker. They’ll probably send Randi across the middle a bit to establish that they will throw to him, but then they’ll mostly try to get him deep to pull/push defenders away from the middle. Baltimore’s secondary has some great players (especially Ed Reed) but they can be ‘gamed’ a bit because they gamble a lot.
Look for Faulk and Edelman to both be used in the slot in place of Welker – a combined 12-16 targets to those guys wouldn’t surprise me. And a nother half dozen targets at Baker & Watson as well.
I agree that Randi’s job is double hard now, but it doesn’t really change that much. And it isn’t necessarily about catching passes himself. His job is just as much about making other guys successful on the field as it is about his own numbers. Something the stupid MSM doesn’t seem to always ‘get’.
I wonder if Baker and Watson will be used to bleed the Ravens LBs
Suggs is hurt, and although he earned a Pro Bowl nod, Ray Lewis isn’t the coverage guy he used to be. Watson can burn him, and that means that Reed has to think about covering both deep (Moss/Aiken routes) and coming forward to sit behind the LBs. I would hate to allow Reed the ability to sit back and wait; they have to draw him forward on occasion, and the best way is through judicious use of TE posts. If they have him in two minds – whether to sit back and cover the deep WR, or whether to come forward and cover the TE – then Moss/Aiken/Edelman/Stanback can start working on the CBs, who’ve been fragile at times all year.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
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