A Quick Review of the Patriots 2009 NFL Draft
Here's a quick review thus far of our 2009 NFL Draft picks! Sorry I have not written much lately...I've been really busy. Here's to a good game against the Ravens! I'll be there in person, rooting the Pats on.
2. Patrick Chung, S - Chung did not get a ton of playing time as a rookie, but he has looked phenomenal thus far this season. He hits hard, is rangey, and instills fear into opposing receivers. He's also made a major impact on special teams. He is showing why he was our first pick in the draft, and he looks like he may blossom into a special player. A-
2. Ron Brace, DE - Brace looked like a complete bust for his first two offseasons, but then something clicked when he was asked to play more at defensive end. He is still a bit inconsistent, but at least he is capable of showing at times why the Patriots traded up to draft him. Good push, good against the run, hope he plays more. B
2. Darius Butler, CB - Last year, Butler looked like he had lots of potential, but he has been underwhelming thus far, to say the least. He lost his jerb to Kyle Arrington and is still having trouble adjusting to the NFL. It seems like he has hit a mental block. He has the talent to get it together and will probably get another chance, but it's all on Darius now. If he can wrap his head around the playbook, he could be a good complement with McCourty. C
2. Sebastian Vollmer, OT - Vollmer was an absolute wall as a rookie, even though people were scratching their heads when we orginally made the pick. This year, he has been a bit more up and down; he is definitely much more adept against 4-3 pass rushers than 3-4, standup men at this point. Still, he is entrenched as a starter on this team for a long time, and was a steal in the late second round. I'd take him over any OT in this draft not named Michael Oher. He could be a perennial Pro-Bowler down the road. A
3. Brandon Tate, WR - When he drafted Tate, Bill Belichick said that he was a first round talent who slipped to the third. Tate has proven him right so far. He is a demon on kick returns, already notching two TDs this year. He also looks super quick with the ball in his hands, and he is poised to take an even bigger role with Randy Moss now in purple. He can stretch the field, has great hands and body control, and is able to rack up yards after the catch. Tate looks like he could be a special player for us down the road. A-
3. Tyrone McKenzie, ILB - McKenzie has had a lot of bad luck since he came to New England. First, he got injured and missed the whole season last year, then this year the Patriots drafted Brandon Spikes and T-Mac got cut. He didn't look terrible when he was given a chance to produce, but that's what the third round is all about for Belichick; he takes risks. Still on our PS, maybe we'll get something out of him. D
4. Rich Ohrnburger, OG - I expected more out of Rich, he has been underwhelming for the past couple of seasons. Still, as a fourth round pick, he found his way back onto the roster so maybe we'll get something out of him thanks to one of the best developers of linemen in the game, Dante Scarnecchia. He could be a very good guard, he's athletic enough. C+
5. George Bussey, OG - Another raw prospect who I thought should make the team this year, but unfortunately did not. Converted TE who was another risk pick. F
6. Jake Ingram, LS - Great pick, and great value in the sixth round. You can't ask for more than someone who is solid snapping the ball. B+
6. Myron Pryor, DT - A real find this late in the draft, Pryor has shown a great ability to penetrate either from the right end or as a nose tackle. He is small but strong and explosive, a steal in the sixth round. He's a rotational pass rusher right now who hasn't looked quite as good this season as he did last, but he could be a very key component for us in the future. And anytime you get a contributor this late, it has to be seen as a positive. B+
7. Julian Edelman, WR - Major, major steal. If he had played any WR in college, he would have been looked upon as a third or fourth round pick. He hasn't gotten a ton of playing time this year because of the glut of depth at the receiver position, but he is absolutely deadly with the ball in his hands. In the preseason game against the Saints, he did something that I had never seen before; he HEADFAKED the cornerback and blew his mind, running past him. He's had some injury troubles this year but he's been a solid contributor and could be a future starter; at the end of the day, that's great for a seventh round pick. B+
7. Darryl Richard, DE - I liked him, no one else seemed to though. D
So, counting it all up, the 2009 Draft yielded us 4 starters (Chung, Vollmer, Tate and Ingram), 3 key rotation members who could eventually be starters (Brace, Pryor and Edelman) and 1 player who, if he puts it all together, has shown the athletic potential to be a starter (Butler). That's a pretty impressive draft; we hit on at least 7 of 12 picks and, possibly, 8 of them, with only one miss (McKenzie) that was mainly due to talent in front of him and injury issues.
Hopefully this in indicative of future Patriots drafts, and we can build a new dynasty from the pieces of the old one. Go team!
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Vollmer was an absolute wall as a rookie, even though people were scratching their heads when we orginally made the pick.
yeah i think they announced the pick…most tech savy pats fans (including myself) said WTH…who the heck is this guy and then googled his name…only to find out that he was a German playing in a non BCS school
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lmao me too
He was like the Thomas Welch of this year to me, was like “umm…wha??” but Vollmer is actually starting…and is actually good.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
Both Welch and Vollmer were TE-to-OT converts in college
as was Mark LeVoir.
Strangely enough, Dan Connolly was a college OT who’s played everything but OT for the Pats.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 17, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
i think
you seriously need to find a job….cause you spent way too much time goggling player’s college position
:P
jk
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Wikipedia tells all.
Takes 5 minutes; ’tis wonderful.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 17, 2010 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
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i voted for Chung...i knew he was going to be a beast after he came on a blitz
in the 1st fins pats game last yr and whacked Chad Henne hard ( he got flagged for that)
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Maybe it's a "what have you done for me lately?" grade
Edelman might need to stay healthy to earn the rest of his A. Good performance, but lowered for patchy participation. Haha.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Please give us some draft picks
(Redskins fan here)
because Vinny Cerato whored our picks away. :(
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
Bet you're glad that era is over.
Shanahan seems to be doing alright by you guys, and McNabb’s still got plenty in the tank.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 18, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah
I’m lovin the Skins as current. :)
Question: Woody, what happened to the ball movement? Answer: I think our defense was pretty solid tonight. We held them to under 200 points so we did our job on that end.
I currently live in Virginia...
I’m originally from Mass. Anyway, I’ve seen first hand how you fans have suffered. Good luck to you guys! I think you need to get rid of Haynesworth as he seems to be a distraction and is hurting chemistry. Shanahan visited the Pats last year, looking around how BB did things and ran the 3-4, so he’s been taught by the master! Just curious, what brings a Redskins fan to our board? Fans of other teams are always welcome as long as they play nice! Sorry for all the randomness of this post, I just got out of work so I finally got to turn my brain on!
This year i had some problems with...
…Ingram. Against the Phins Mesko helped him out big time twice with great holding. And against the Ravens he almost costed us the game at the second punt of the OT. Everybody speaks about the 3rd punt of Mesko, but I would offer everybody to watch again our second punt in OT. Awful, just awful long snap, hits the ground, Mesko somehow managed to grab it after a bounce and somehow managed to kick it before the first Ravens player arrived to block. Nobody speaks about that punt, but in my book, that was a lot more difficult one.
I remember that
I jumped out of seat in terror during the snap, but Mesko handled it really well. Great poise for a rookie.
Loved this draft
While Darius Butler has been anything but what I expected to see from him in his sophomore campaign, I am still impressed with the draft.
I like Pat Chung, but as far as “qaulity” for the selection, Vollmer, Tate, and Edelman get my highest grades.
Vollmer would start left tackle if Matt Light weren’t there. He would have done so as a rookie as well.
Tate was drafted for THIS season, because Belichick knew he wouldn’t play last. He only gets graded on this year for me, and he gets an A.
Edelman wowed me last year, this year he has been hurt. He gets a high grade though because he was a 7th rounder. The fact that he has done anything at all gets him a high grade.
Hey Ethan..
Here’s to a good game against the Ravens! I’ll be there in person, rooting the Pats on.
So, you’ll be at the Ravens game? Can I borrow your time machine after you’re done with it? ;)
this article was published on the 16th....guess one of the staff (Greg, Hill or Marima) front paged it....dont know why it says it was published on the 21st
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by Richard Hill on Oct 21, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Guys what are the chances we go after a WR in the 2011 draft?
I ask because with our new/old style on offense, we run a lot more, and use screens with dink and dunk passes out of a multiple receiver set.
I would like to get a Jon Baldwin (Pitt) 6’5 225lbs. But he’s a 1st rounder, and i’ll much prefer to focus on Cam Heyward (DE/DT) and a OLB in that round.
So how about a WR like Austin Pettis (Boise State) 6’3 201lbs in the late 3rd round or early 4th round?
While keeping in mind that we already have Welker, Edelman, Tate, Branch (he’ll be here for longer than a year), Price and 3 TE’s. And maybe Slater as well.
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
my two first hopefulls(assuming we don't trade down or up)
Cam Heyward
AJ Green
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Zack Brown (NC)
and Bruce Carter (also NC) seem intriguing. Both projected to go in the 1st.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
Bruce Carter is so small tho.
230lbs? This is where you mention Dumervil lol
SO go ahead……….
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
Yeah...scratch that
Mel Kiper likes him…so..yeah. But I mean the guy is pretty good for his size…he’s had 5 blocked kicks (which led the nation last year, and BB likes those guys who are all-around guys; McCourty and Chung come to mind), and he’s one of the fastest LBs in one of the fastest corps in the country (4.39 40).
I liked him strictly due to those types of intangibles…but seeing that MK does too…I’m wavering off of that.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
Not with a first-rounder...
but if he drops to the 5th (say he starts smoking weed or gets injured), Belichick might take him as a core special teamer, like Matthew Slater.
His speed makes him intriguing – Gary Guyton-like – but he doesn’t have the size to really be a Pats LB. That, and the Pats have already got players with college kick/punt blocking experience playing LB – Tyrone McKenzie blocked one and Dane Fletcher blocked two in college, and they’re bigger and more likely to fit in the 3-4 as depth players.
If there’s a roster spot for a guy like this, it’s the one currently occupied by Tracy White. In saying that, Carter’s the same size and faster than White, so not entirely out of the question – as long as it doesn’t cost a 1st round draft pick.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
why would you guys need another WR?
You have Tate as your big WR, and Welker as your short yardage guy. You even have two really young TEs. You have Edelman to groom under as solid corps of WRs. If anything, you need a legit speedster. I for one miss Ginn, he won about 4-6 games a year off of deep passes where he blew by guys and KOs and Punts. That’s good enough for a guy that isn’t your #1 WR.
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We have rookie Taylor Price as our burner so to speak. Our rookie
WR’s are hardly ever introduced in their first season. But he is a speedster. So is Tate.
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
I don't necessarily think the Pats do...
but in saying that, if there’s a big target available at the right pick, I could make an exception. After all, it only takes one or two injuries to 180lb WRs and they’re pretty low on the depth chart. Branch is good but injury-prone – he’s only played one 16 game regular season his entire career – and Welker, Edelman and Tate have all had injuries the last two years.
As for the speedster, I ‘unno – Tate and Price are both legit athletes. Price ran a 4.52 in the Combine, but that was on a shredded knee – he wasn’t even recuperated for the NFL season, let alone the Combine, so that’s blindingly quick on an iffy leg. Price ran a 4.40 Combine 40 and a 4.33 Pro Day 40, which again is very quick for a guy who is 212lbs. Between the two of them, they should stretch the field.
Also throw in RB/WR Danny Woodhead, who also ran a 4.33 40. He’s not exactly and ideal outside WR candidate, but with that kind of speed, you still have to treat him like a threat in space.
Taylor Price is the most likely to turn into a deep-threat guy – his physicals are almost stat-for-stat the same as DeSean Jackson, but he’s 20lbs heavier – but his route-running is raw-to-non-existent, so he’ll be brought along slowly.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but AJ and Jones would have to be picked with the top pick.
And you would likely have to trade up to get either, so i think it is unlikely for either of them to fall to you. I think it is more likely that Quinn will fall to you. He is suspended from NCAA and pass rushers tend to fall.
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Might be Julio Jones > AJ Green
Just because he’s got pretty much the same physicals, but he’s from Nick Saban’s Alabama squad.
In saying that, Michael Floyd of Notre Dame spent two years being coached by Charlie Weiss, and he’s also of the same general build as Jones, Green and Jon Baldwin.
Just for the links of Belichick to Alabama and Notre Dame, I’d probably rank Jones and Floyd above Green and Baldwin, solely because Belichick will be familiar with them and he’ll know they’re coached to Pats-like standards.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i like JJ of AJ....seen him play 3 times this year...he's pretty good
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I'm truthfully just choosing AJ Green, only because I've seen a couple vids on him(both of one play).
I don’t plan on looking at rookies at the moment. I do it near the offseason, to get more info on them.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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I haven't either...
I’m basically just assuming based on who they’ve been coached by – and Belichick tends to favour Weiss and Saban guys.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That's true.
And possibly Urban Meyer. ;)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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Mhmm
But I don’t see any 6’4", 4.4~ WRs in Meyer’s squad at the moment.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
My mistake. I was thinking coaching tree in general. Not coaches who coached the WRs belichick usually drafts.
:)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
Oh, if there were any of that ilk, I'd have automatically included them.
And you could arguably throw in Hernandez as the 6’3" WR-type from Meyer.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Hm... I suppose so.
:)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
But isn't it true that Jones isn't a crisp or as crisp a route runner as Green?
He is of the same height but about 20lbs less than Green.
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
I will say, there are two things that I WANT my receivers to have above all else:
Hands, and route running.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I couldn't tell you - I haven't seen a great deal of either
but all things being equal, at this time I’d put the Belichick-protege guys have a higher chance than non-linked programs.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ Green is an athletic marvel
great hands, athleticism and has no real weakness to his game, only things that can improve. He is very randy-moss esque in that sense, but runs better routes but not as big a deep threat (no one will ever be). look up his one handed catch in his first game back this season. Big, strong and a great overall package. Reminds me of andre johnson.
Dick Butkus, Former Chicago Bears Linebacker
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was important -- like a league game."
Mhmm
Although I’m always wary of those kinds of WRs – it’s scary just how many amazing college WRs are ‘guaranteed to succeed in the NFL’ and absolutely flunk when they hit the pros – just think of anybody Matt Millen or Al Davis drafted in the 2000s.
Not saying Green won’t succeed or anything, but the strike-rate on first-round WRs seems to be a 50/50 between being studs or flunkees – and with barely anything in between.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That is actually what i was thinking.
Unfortunately there are no gaurentees. Then again, moss got selected 21st, and 20 teams had a chance a a top 3 in history receiver.
Dick Butkus, Former Chicago Bears Linebacker
"I wouldn't ever set out to hurt anyone deliberately unless it was important -- like a league game."
Millen actually hit on a lot of those WRs...
…he just forgot that someone needs to be able to throw them the ball and that the quarterback needs some blocking.
by Richard Hill on Oct 21, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
True
JJ will have 3 great grabs and then drop one that hits his hands. Both green and JJ are really tough, will run crossing routes with no fear. I would take AJ tho, bit faster, but it all depends on when they’re available. Aj is a sure top 10 pick and JJ could fall between 15-25, may be better value
I wouldn't mind
if it was one in the 3rd or 4th round….maybe…..but the ghost of Chad Jackson still haunts me.
I think WR is set for the meantime
but I guess it won’t hurt to grab one in the later rounds (like Price was this year). If one were to grab my eye, it would be Jonathan Baldwin; by that size he’s sort of like a young VJ…wouldn’t mind him at all.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
hes no bethel johnson
or if OAK tanks the rest of the season we could get mark ingram
by eat ur wheaties on Oct 21, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions
No RB's that early buddy.
I want Heyward.
Don't cut your locks Tom Terrific!
by PatNation85 on Oct 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no way we draft a 1st rd rb in the top 10 area of the 1st rd. .
The SB winning teams of the Pats & the really good teams after that were/are build in the trenches….
01 1st rd pick- Richard Seymour 3-4 RDE
01- 2nd rd pick- Matt Light LT
02-1st rd pick- Daniel Graham blocking TE
03- 1st rd pick- Ty Warren 3-4 LDE
04- 1st rd pick- Vince Wilfork 3-4 NT
04- 1st rd pick- Ben Watson- Balanced TE
05 1st rd pick- His Highness Logan Mankins LG
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Nice article...
Though I think you need three years before you can really judge the success of a draft. So far, though, Chung and Edelman have been fantastic, Butler has the physical skills if he can just get better at ball awareness, and Brandon Tate has the makings of a Roddy White-esque player if he can stay healthy.
Is it bad that I like Pat Chung more...
because I just like saying Pat Chung? He’s got one of those names man, just fun to say. That and he absolutely STICKS people.
Will I ever get to where I'm going?
If I do, will I know when I'm there?
you could say he pat chungs you
stupid joke
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You should thank him...
every since he “politely” asked the press to stop calling/referring to him as “Patrick Chung” (even though that’s his name).
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
we could call him Woo-sa Chung
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true....
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
I call him....
Ach Chung baby!
I know, I know, I suck.
Bless you. (passes tissue)
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
"It’s just relax. Don’t get too hyped. Just relax – Woo-sa." - Patrick Chung
Where's the love for the line?
If one were to take out the Miami game, would Chung still be everybody’s favorite by a vote of 67%? I’m extremely curious.
Sometimes I wish TV announcers spent more time highlighting the blocking efforts of the offensive line. The only time we seem to hear a name of a guy on the front 5 is when they get a holding penalty or if they happen to get beat badly for a sack. When the line does it’s job well…. we generally only hear praises sung for them as a unit and not individually. There’s a reason why offensive tackles are often among the highest paid atheletes on the field.
With that said, I feel Ethan correctly graded Vollmer as the Patriots top Sophomore performer with a solid A. Folks, it’s uniquely special to spend a 3rd round pick on a “project” at the offensive tackle position and see him become one of your go-to guys in week 8 (as Vollmer did last year). What a score this dude was!
Just a quick correction...
Sebastian Vollmer was a mid-to-late second-round pick – 58th overall.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Vollmer hasn't played at the level of his rookie season...
…which has led to some backtracking from the early high praise. He’s better at defending against 4-3 DEs than spying 3-4 OLBs and it’s shown this season. He’s still young, but he has plenty to work on.
by Richard Hill on Oct 21, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
dont know
if thats bc Neal might be struggling with his pass protections….cause 2 of the sacks (and some of the hits) he gave up….he blocked down and then tried to block his assignment.
Once his Highness returns for 6 games, i hope they move Connelly back to RG
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Vollmer's been letting OLBs go on the outside...
…and not the inside. On the inside, Koppen’s been a mess.
by Richard Hill on Oct 21, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather Connolly replace Koppen than Neal...
Koppen’s being manhandled at times.
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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 21, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
cause 2 of the sacks (and some of the hits) he gave up….he blocked down and then tried to block his assignment.
I was talking about Vollmer. But it seems to me that Vollm blocks inside first (facing a 3-4) to help out Neal before taking on his assignment.
B/c in one of the sacks Dan gave up…he was helping out Neal and one of the Ravens d lineman “swam” from Neal to Koppen (who whiffed on that play) and sacked Brady…(Vollmer blocked his guy)
And in the Fins game, Vollmer blocked inside to help out Neal and then tried to block Cam and failed which led to Cam sacking Brady
Jeez….after taking a 3-4 RDE…i hope we take a RG, RT and a C in the top 3 rounds.
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Vollmer looked to me more comfortable as LT every time I saw him.
Anh her can play RT on NFL level too.
(Off topic, but blocking, and I wanted to post this somewhere :D):
just checked Woodhead’s second run (for 11 or 12 yards) during the TD drive. And was kind of shocked, how good Welker looked in blocking. He pancaked!! his first opponent, then made a beatufil block against the second guy.
by frogfromthemud on Oct 22, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
And don't forget to double up on them!
Doubling up on what you pick tends to work best. It double your chances that one of them will be the answer. If all goes well, both will reach their ceiling and then you have a nice problem.
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Okay,
just drop all those a full grade, and I agree, more or less.
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George Bussey gets a G?
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I was thinking more like H.
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by BabeParilli on Oct 23, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It takes 3 years to properly evaluate a draft
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