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Defeating the dirty birds: A review of the Ravens game

Warning...this is a long read.

I attended this week's Patriots/Ravens game, and I have to say it was quite entertaining to say the least. Both teams played well and I was very impressed by many components of the Patriots. However, there were some other things that perturbed me to say the least. 


I will try to go unit by unit here...so i will start with the gunslinger himself. Tom Brady had a slightly better game than most will give him credit for. In the first half, he had at least four passes dropped by receivers. He certainly was not perfect, but then again, the first half was far from a bright spot for anyone on the team. When it counted, though, Brady delivered.

One of the most interesting plays of the game, in my mind, was the deep ball to Tate on first down from midfield in the fourth quarter. I personally liked the call, a lot. That play will sit in the minds of teams for weeks. It shows that the Patriots are willing, and able, to stretch the field vertically. Lardarius Webb happened to have great coverage on that particular play, but that does not mean it was unnecessary. It may have been one of the reasons that the game went to overtime, but it was important all the same.

Read the rest of the review after the jump!

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Brady's accuracy was decent, his arm strength was good. Overall, this was a good but not great game for him. However, one thing I did appreciate was how he spread out the ball. Six different receivers had receptions, seven counting Tate's end around/deep ball try. More impressively, four receivers went over 50 yards for the day. That is a balanced passing game at its finest, and if the Patriots can maintain that, this offense will be competitive with any team's in the league. Heck, even when Brady had his second worst game of the season (the Jets debacle notwithstanding), the Patriots were still able to pull out the win. That is very encouraging.

The running game did its job as well. I tend to count all the Patriots' runners as one entity, so averaging 5 yards a carry and picking up 127 yards on the ground seems like a nice game to me. Six different Patriots ran the ball, including two receivers in Tate and Aaron Hernandez. BenJarvus Green Ellis was decent, though he only averaged two yards a carry. I actually think he may be a viable fantasy pickup as a goal-line back for the Patriots, but I'm still not sold on him as an every down runner.

Danny Woodhead, on the other hand...this guy is for real. I'm pretty sure that one of the key aspects of the bye week was to get Woodhead up to speed, and he looked good today notching 115 total yards. He hits holes hard and is pretty amazing in terms of his change of direction. He reminds me just a bit of Ahmad Bradshaw with his running style. I think he could be our Faulk of the future; he is still young and he has 4.3 speed, good hands and, it seems, an ability to grasp concepts quickly. Woodhead was a key contributor today, and I am thrilled the Jets let him go. One man's trash is truly another man's treasure.

The receivers had a huge spotlight on them without Randy Moss, and for the most part they did not do too well. Brandon Tate was a non-factor for most of the game, though he did have a huge play on an end-around. I would love to see Brady get Tate the ball more. He reminds me of Greg Jennings a bit, and I hope that he will be worked into the playbook a bit more in the ensuing weeks. Wes Welker was stellar as usual, though I do think that the Moss trade will lessen his numbers more than expected. However, that is not all a bad thing, as it will prevent excess wear and tear on his knee. He looks just about 100 percent though, and impressed me with his punt return ability. Julian Edelman was a disappointing non-factor before his concussion, but this is all merely leading up to the true story of the game: Deion Branch.

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Branch has not lost a single step since he left. I do not know what happened in Seattle, but he looked every bit as effective as he did in 2004 on the field today. He still has very good hands, he can get downfield, and he can make big plays. If Randy Moss was starting instead of Deion Branch today, I do not think the Patriots win the game. Moss would have stretched the defenses, but Branch is a better fit for a Brady offense, plain and simple. He is clutch, he knows how to win, and he makes plays when a play needs to be made. I am fine with this receiver corps going forward, as long as Tate gets just a little bit more involved in the offensive scheme.

Tight end wise, it was an up and down day for Aaron Hernandez. He dropped a couple of passes, but those mistakes are merely rookie errors. He will figure it out eventually; I have faith. His presence on the field makes the Patriots a better team, it is that simple. He is dynamic with the ball in his hands and does not need Randy Moss to get open; he proved that today. His opposite number, Rob Gronkowski, is an impact player as well. That 1st and 25 play was one of the biggest plays of the game for me; it showed Gronk, matched up one-on-one with a linebacker, adjusting to a slightly off pass, maintaining his balance and helping his team. Gronk also drew a key pass interference penalty. He is an X-Factor of a different sort, and I think he will be utilized a bit more without Randy. Finally, Alge Crumpler looked good as a blocker, not so good as a receiver. However, he is a captain now, so congratulations to him. It is nice to see a new addition fit into the locker room and function as a leader for the young guys. At this point, I would say that he is doing a pretty good job.

The offensive line, overall, was decent today, though all made some mistakes. Dan Koppen struggled mightily against Haloti Ngata, and the other two interior linemen were not very helpful either. Stephen Neal looked good on run plays and held his own against the pass, as did Dan Connolly. Sebastian Vollmer was slightly better than Matt Light, though neither was perfect. Vollmer did not give up a sack on the day, but he might as well have on the Brady interception, when a missed block let Dawan Landry get a free shot at Tom Terrific. Overall, I would rank the OL's performance in this game as follows: 1. Neal, 2. Connolly, 3. Vollmer, 4. Light, 5. Koppen. Against a tough defense, I think they did OK. Next week it will be a bit easier, because San Diego is not nearly as stellar on that side of the ball.

On the defensive line, the team did better today with its rotation. Vince Wilfork was a monster all game, eating up blocks and helping to stop Ray Rice, who only had 88 yards on 28 carries. The fact that this team held Rice to under 3 yards a carry is incredible, considering last game the run defense was the main reason why we lost. Brandon Deaderick was much more solid against the run than Mike Wright, who came in as a pass rush specialist. I much prefer this rotation to Wright playing every down. On the other side, Gerard Warren looked good. I did not notice Myron Pryor or Ron Brace all game, so I assume they held their own at the point of attack but did nothing else of note. The line did a decent job, but it was the linebackers and defensive backs who need to be talked about most.

First, the linebacking core. This was a huge game for the young group and, for the most part, they played really well. The interior duo of Jerod Mayo and Brandon Spikes played, for me, their best games of the seasons. They were instrumental in handling Rice and the Ravens' rushing attack. They combined for 31 tackles, a huge number. They set a tone and looked good in all aspects of the game. Spikes even covered a bit, which impressed me; he looked very natural running with Rice on short routes, and was the major reason he averaged less than 5 yards a catch. Even Dane Fletcher got in on the act, making two huge plays in the fourth quarter. He looked really agile on the field, and could be an intriguing rotational option in the future. Gary Guyton came on in sub packages and played pretty decently. However, I do not think he is the best cover linebacker on the team anymore. That title belongs to Rob Ninkovich who, once again, had a very solid outing.

Ninkovich, like last game in Miami, was a stalwart against the pass this week. He maintained his responsibility at all times and was, overall, very solid in the passing game. However, where he impressed me most was his pursuit and willingness to stop the run. One of the single dumbest officiating moves in the game in my mind was the tripping penalty that was called when Ninkovich snuffed out the wide receiver reverse. What is he supposed to do on that play? The trip was negligible and I have, seriously, never heard that called on a defensive player before. I will chalk that up to a good play by Ninkovich, and I think he has earned a starting spot for weeks to come. Opposite him, Jermaine Cunningham was superb as well. He didn't pressure Joe Flacco quite as consistently as I would have liked, but he did provide quite a bit of push. He forced a fumble, set the edge in the running game, and got a sack. That is a pretty solid day at the office. All Cunningham needs is more game experience, and I think he could be special. Heck, Ninkovich could be special as well! I am so excited about this linebacker core now that we have a Vrabel (Nink) and a McGinest (Cunningham)...not to mention a Bruschi (Mayo) and a Bryan Cox (Spikes.)

Now...for the piece de resistance...the secondary. There was one aspect about this game that one had to be at Gillette Stadium to see, it was not readily apparent via TV. One statistic that I find absolutely dumbfounding that, I think, can help explain why the Patriots did not look so great for the first three quarters when it came to stopping Joe Flacco. The youthful mistakes and the penalties definitely did not help matters...but coaching moves like this one just amaze me.

Here goes.

For the first three and a half quarters or so, until safety Jarrad Page got injured, the Patriots never had more than two cornerbacks on the field. And those two cornerbacks were...Devin McCourty and Kyle Arrington.

Even more amazing; which safety was taking the place of the nickel cornerback on most of the snaps? None other than Patrick Chung.

Now...is that seriously the best way to utilize Chung? I would personally have preferred to see Page play slot and Chung play more in-the-box or on the tight end. Heap had a big day (Chung was in zone on the touchdown catch) partially because of this. Jonathan Wilhite did not see a defensive snap until the fourth quarter! That is pretty amazing. Of course, I would prefer to see Darius Butler in there instead of Wilhite, but that seems to be moot at this point

Overall, the secondary was not terrible. They grew up before our eyes. Devin McCourty was very solid when he was matched up on Anquan Boldin. He only gave up a five yard pass play to the Ravens' number one target. And, against Derrick Mason, he was stellar as well, only giving up one catch. The penalty was a rookie mistake of not looking back for the ball when he was covering Houshmandzadeh, but he more than made up for it with the huge pass defense in overtime, when he took a tight end one on one, skied for the ball and batted it away. That screams "elite talent" to me. I think we will continue to see McCourty assert himself as a top cover corner in the league over the next couple of years. What a draft pick.

Kyle Arrington, on the other hand, is probably going to have a lot of people come down hard on him. I will not. I think that Arrington played decently today, considering the style he was forced to play. He was noticeably more comfortable playing further up on receivers, but Mason is shifty enough to get off the jam. That was what killed him against Derrick. Against Boldin, he was stellar for the most part. On the touchdown pass, he started playing off and simply got beat when the safety help never came. That happens on occasion. Also, on the first down pass to Mason when Arrington went for the INT, I do not have a problem with that at all. He had safety help, knew so, and decided to go for the pick. He nearly got there, and it was a worthwhile gamble in my mind. I would still have loved to see Butler on the field, but Arrington is a stellar starter who will only get better over time.

The safeties as a whole were a bit underwhelming today. Jarrad Page was decent, though not so hot in coverage, before he got injured. Patrick Chung was the best of the bunch by far, but he will have better games than this one. I do love the fact that Coach Belichick is using him just like he used Rodney in coverage though; the next step would be to increase blitzing looks. Brandon Meriweather did not have his best game either. He made a bonehead play and laid out Todd Heap, drawing a penalty and probably a fine as well. He looked a bit lost in coverage, though he did help out on that tipped ball when the Ravens were looking for the end zone early in the fourth quarter. I think he will get it together eventually, but Chung has surpassed him as the best safety on the team to this point.

Now, for the best part of the game...special teams! I will keep this short and sweet. Stephen Gostkowski was clutch and kicked the ball well, Zoltan Mesko came up huge with his 65 yard punt, and the return games were relatively mediocre. Tracy White, though, is a beast on kick coverage.

This week, the Patriots played, in my mind, a roughly equal or maybe slightly superior team. Unfortunately for the Ravens though, all the favorable position matchups in the world have no bearing on the result of a game if your quarterback is mediocre. Joe Flacco did well in the first three quarters (when the Patriots were matching up a safety on the slot receiver much of the time) but struggled in the fourth and in overtime. I am still not sold on him as a possible Super Bowl winning quarterback, but I suppose that stranger things have happened. All around, it was not the best game for the Ravens, though Haloti Ngata was a beast as usual, and I think Lardarius Webb has a chance to be a very good cornerback down the road. Michael Oher was abused by Cunningham all game, the Ravens offensive line did not impress me one bit, and I am not buying this receiving core. At the end of the day though, i think the Ravens are still a playoff team, and the Patriots should be thrilled with this victory.

Now, onto next week. This matchup between the Patriots and Chargers will be an interesting one. The past couple of weeks I have been negative about the Patriots' chances and that strategy has worked, so I will attempt to be as pessimistic as possible. The Chargers have a great QB and TE and a good secondary. They are young and athletic at all positions. However, considering that the Patriots were able to essentially shut down the Ravens' number one rushing and receiving threats last week, I am betting that there will be a similar gameplan in place to slow down Antonio Gates and co. Not to mention that I expect the Patriots will find it far easier to generate pressure against a weak Chargers offensive line. Jeromey Clary, their right tackle, is especially susceptible to the rush. It will be a great game, and I cannot wait to continue to see this young defense grow up before my eyes. 

We are all witnesses.

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I think Gates might be out

He was in a walking brace for most of the 2nd half of their loss to the Rams today. That feels good to say.

Don’t expect much from him next week.

That said, the Chargers offense looked terrible, especially the O-Line. The defense played decent but they’re getting generally torched this year. I expect an easier time than usual.

by satsunada on Oct 18, 2010 3:57 AM EDT reply actions  

The running game did its job as well. I tend to count all the Patriots’ runners as one entity, so averaging 5 yards a carry and picking up 127 yards on the ground seems like a nice game to me. Six different Patriots ran the ball, including two receivers in Tate and Aaron Hernandez. BenJarvus Green Ellis was decent, though he only averaged two yards a carry. I actually think he may be a viable fantasy pickup as a goal-line back for the Patriots, but I’m still not sold on him as an every down runner.

Exactly the way to think about it. People will always say “but I want a 1000-yard feature back!”, but if you can get 130 yards on the ground at 5ypc against one of the better run-stopping teams around, does it matter who gets it or how?

Continued and sustained rushing production will get respect, and getting the D to respect the run means they can’t cheat and defend the pass. If anything, having all the unusual looks – WR and TE end-arounds and scatback draws – means oppositions will have to try out non-standard schemes against the Pats. That alone is an added headache for opposition coaches.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 4:31 AM EDT reply actions  

It's impressive when

Ray Rice is held to 3.1 YPC, and BJGE/Woodhead/Morris average 5 YPC.

It’s even more impressive that none of that yardage came in the form of junktime clock-killing

by nbradley07 on Oct 18, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

It helps...

…knowing that you have a running back that can get the yards on 3rd and short, when the defense knows they’re running the ball. I think that’s the benefit of a feature back.

by Richard Hill on Oct 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

but the Pats were actually leading the league in 3rd down conversions (at least they were until the Ravens game, I’m not sure where they stack up now). That’s without a feature back.

When you’ve got a half-dozen ways to convert a third down attempt, the defence can’t key on one guy. You only have to look at the ’Phins stopping Adrian Peterson to see the flipside of having a feature back who usually converts third- and fourth-down attempts.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You do wonder if that's why...

You expect underneath passes to Welker, so that’s what you show… and then hand it off to Danny Woodhead underneath. He’s so small and so quick, he only need a third of a second and a half-yard of a gap to get 1 yard. Booyah, first down.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's useful to note...

…that the Pats have done this a lot with Faulk in the past two. The spread the field 3rd down draw has been featured in a lot of game plans. I remember it being prevalent in mid-90’s match-ups with the Colts, especially. (Get Freeney or Mathis rushing up field and send a delayed Faulk to the B-gap.

True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.

by Hometown Gyro on Oct 19, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are all witnesses.

LeBron James?

You get rec’d for stealing it from the Cavs. I’ve never understood that slogan.

Wisconsin, throwing the Big Ten into chaos since the beginning of time...
I was fined $15,000 by David Stern for complaining about the officiating...

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Oct 18, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

It was a Nike slogan.

True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.

by Hometown Gyro on Oct 19, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not know what happened in Seattle,

Too much caffeine and constant rain in Seattle?

Also the best part of the game…Jim Nanz (?) called Matt Light “Todd Light” twice…that made me laugh

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by NinjaZX6R on Oct 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

And the ever present "Wil-firk" pronounciation

I mean, does he eat with a knife and firk at home? It’s not that hard of a name to pronounce.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard him say will fork....

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by NinjaZX6R on Oct 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope - I watched it again on NFL Replay last night

and Jim Nantz is a great announcer but can only say Wil’firk.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 20, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not as bad as Phil Simms

who for years kept calling Asante Samuel “Asante Samuels” and no one would ever correct him.

EVH+DLR=BFFs........ God I Hope So!!

by dmstorm22 on Oct 20, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

it should be Asante Shamuel

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by NinjaZX6R on Oct 20, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have to watch it again....which i dont mind

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by NinjaZX6R on Oct 20, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrington isn't the answer

He keeps being out of position so isn’t even close enough to make the play. At least Butler was there even if struggling against 85 and Edwards (and lets face it who wouldn’t?)

Butler and Wheatley need to go toe to toe and sort out who’s 2 and who’s 3 before the season goes on…

I don’t care who, I’m just sayin’

by buachz on Oct 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I bet you Arrington didn't think he'd be starting at CB this preseason, either.

If he looks like he’s a little confused, it’s probably because he is. In saying that, he’s played pretty well – he’s basically a rookie, but without even having come fresh from playing CB in college like McCourty. He’s relearning the position to some extent.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want Wheatley

To compete for the #2, and yeah Arrington’s probably not the answer. But with that said he looked great late in the 4th and in OT

by j-ace on Oct 19, 2010 3:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Want to point out that

Woodhead was great in blocking in the shotgun. I saw him make great reads on blitzes, and putting a solid block at least 3 times today, one of them on Ray Lewis.

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These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

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by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

This

He’s surprised even the biggest of Woodhead cult fans with his blocking imo. The guy is bulky despite his height.

by Csigs on Oct 18, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's 200lbs. Faulk's 202lbs.

He’s just that little bit shorter than Faulk, so it seems more impressive.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anytime you can block a guy like RL you deserve credit

and he is quite “big” for what he is, 5’9", 200 lbs.

I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
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by AtomicDawg on Oct 18, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some reports say he is 5' 7"

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats on the comeback win

Was too angry to post yesterday, but I’ve calmed down and realized that the Pats did exactly what good teams do. Turn it up and execute when it matters. Give a good team too many chances to hang in there and they’ll make you pay.

Good luck for the rest of the season. Maybe there will be a playoff rematch, maybe there won’t be. Just be sure to take care of the Jets next time around.

by 3r1c on Oct 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Your the first ravens fan(I was, and still am, reading on your blog as well, and I have to admit, I read mostly whining) to give us any HINT of credit on sunday's game.

To you, I say thanks, and I hope you have a successful season.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well... I guess because of how CLOSE the game was, I can understand, and the fact that you guys played better than us for 3 quarters of the game),

but ANY credit would have been appreciated. The pats D had to make plays 6 drives in a row to keep us in there, and we had to play mistake free football to tie you guys at the end of the 4th.

So thank you, again, for giving us some credit.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pats are still a darn good team

Obviously not as good as recent years (kinda hard to outdo 16-0 regular season), but very dangerous still…and very well coached.

It sucks we lost after having a ten point lead in the fourth, but these things can happen when you play top 5 caliber teams.

PS – please beat the Steelers in few weeks.

by 3r1c on Oct 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tell us about it

That described practically the entire Patriots 2009 season

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 19, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, here's us in 2009
  1. scorer in the first half, bottom 5 scorer in the second half. lovely.

I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP

These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick

I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!

by patriotguy2 on Oct 19, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOGLE FTW.

This article is Google’s top hit when you type “patriots ravens.”

by nbradley07 on Oct 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Should clarify.

On the BRU site.

Congrats Ethan!

by nbradley07 on Oct 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corners playing closer?

I read somewhere that the cornerbacks were playing closer to the line of scrimmage and getting their hands on the receivers. Is this true? II have been wanting it for a long time especially because it screws up the timing of opposing offenses and also helps give the pass rush more time.
Since the defensive backs will more likely than not get beat anyways, they might as well give themselves a fighting chance

by pats4life on Oct 18, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe...

but if it was, it might have been a Ravens-specific thing – Hoodie usually busts out game-specific wrinkles in the games where he has two weeks against an opponent. So even if they were, I wouldn’t necessarily bet on them doing it next week.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was definitely a lot of contact w/in the 5-yard limit.

But they also played off in several situations where down-and-distance considerations rendered a cushion more prudent (e.g. 3rd and long).

It does seem like they were far less willing to let the offense develop any timing, whereas they pretty much played off the Bills’ receivers all day, letting them get into a significant groove. It was probably partly a gameplan thing, but also partly the result of a heightened level of confidence in the play of the CBs.

by nbradley07 on Oct 18, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Confidence level in the CBs

Probably didn’t trust them not to get burned. Not everyone can bump and run…. sometimes it’s bump, fall down, WR scores an easy 60yd TD.

by nbradley07 on Oct 18, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might've been an attempt to contain Ray Rice, too

Rice is a killer on screens and swings, and while engaging WRs on the line can mean WRs are pretty sure of getting blocks on, it also means the Pats get to dictate where the blocks are. Just having two guys wrestling on the line of scrimmage on the hash-marks means Rice has to run further on swing passes to get to the sideline, etc.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 18, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

regarding 3 safeties

As oposed to 3 cornerbacks, it was probably done because the Pats are famous for making the opponent play “left handed”. The Ravens are supposed to be a smashmouth running team, so even when we go to a nickel package, we go bigger rather than quicker so that they don’t steamroll us. And besides Anquan Boldin, while a safety on a receiver is a mismatch, its not like their receivers are burners either, so we weren’t losing THAT much, while forcing the Ravens to throw. They’d much rather dare the Ravens to beat us throwing the ball (which thyey almost did BTW when Flacco seemingly couldn’t miss in the first 3 quarters) but we will NOT let them just run all over us to beat us

by j-ace on Oct 19, 2010 6:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed in theory

But not in practice.

The big nickel man set was one of the main reasons why Flacco was able to move the ball so well in the first half. Chung got picked on…a lot.

by Ethan Hammerman on Oct 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Branch thought

I’m as happy as anybody that we landed Branch after losing Moss. He’s got a pretty good set of hands ans an excellent route runner. Most importantly, he’s got the kind of chemistry with Brady that can’t be drawn out with X’s and O’s. I like the guy! However, despite the love fest, there’s something here that bugs me just a little and I figured I’d comment to see if others felt the same.

What’s with the whole “falling down” thing after making catches? What’s so difficult with putting your head down for a few additional yards. I distinctly recall two catches…. maybe even a third, in which Deion sorta dropped (shoulder first) at the feet of defenders after a 10 or 12 yard grab. Grant it, he certainly would have been tackled soon anyway…. But I’m convinced the plays I’m thinking about would have gained an additional yard (maybe more) if he had just made the defender tackle him.

Do you folks think this is the WR version of the QB slide? Are the coaches advising this or is this a guy’s way of just protecting the ball in key situations? Did anybody notice this?Overall, it wasn’t enough for me to find fault with his effort, but I did find myself scratching the head just a little.

by Bills friend on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

He's never been a huge YAC guy if I remember correctly

But as long as he’s catching over the first down line I have no problem

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 20, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps in those instances

his footing was a little off while being tripped up, and like you pointed out, he was just trying to maintain his handling of the ball, maybe for a precautionary matter. It obviously didn’t seem to matter than much when he scored his TD, but I have seen a lot of ball carriers do that same thing.

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by AtomicDawg on Oct 20, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m curious in wondering if that’s a "Branch thing" or a coaches thing.

I’ve seen other receivers do this too…. but they generally throw themselves at the lower legs of the defenders. Welker does that a lot, but Wes always seems to make contact with the defender first. On the two or three occasions I saw on Sunday, Branch clearly landed on the ground first…. once with two or three feet to spare between he and the defender.

by Bills friend on Oct 20, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been made of glass since he left the Pats.

If this keeps him on the field, I’m all for it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Oct 20, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

I can think of quite a few guys who have done this in their careers. The greatest show on turf had at least 2 guys who would do it consistently, Ike Bruce and Tory Holt. I’ve seen Randy Moss do it over the past few years on the rare occasion he caught a ball over the middle as well. It’s smart.

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by Hometown Gyro on Oct 21, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2008 I remember Moss catching more than a few over the middle

probably to help Cassel out as well as to get his own hands on the ball. He always looks awkward when he does it, especially when he’s taken down because he is so tall and lanky.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Oct 21, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

He ranks up there with Terry Glenn as guys that make me cringe every time they get tackled.

True wealth is a shelf full of unread books.

by Hometown Gyro on Oct 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s with the whole "falling down" thing after making catches? What’s so difficult with putting your head down for a few additional yards.

RE: Cribbs, Josh; Massaquoi, Mohamed.

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by Comedic.Sans on Oct 20, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It kept Marvin Harrison healthy for about 12 straight years.

Going down when there is no reason to stay upright is smart, not cowardly. Much like Manning’s propensity to fall down to avoid contact on a certain sack.

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by dmstorm22 on Oct 20, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wise, given the alternative is:

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 20, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's courtesy of Cleveland.com, btw.

Ex-Patriot Ben Watson was upset about the hit and wanted the max fine to be imposed – Harrison was later hit with a $75k fine, so Watson might be pleased.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Oct 20, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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