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Patriots Midterm Grades

FOXBORO MA - OCTOBER 31:  Tom Brady gives a thumbs up before a game against the Minnesota Vikings. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

What have we learned from the first half of the NFL regular season? Wins are not easy to come by. More than half of the league has a .500 record or below. At 6-2 the Patriots are tied with five other franchises for the best record in football. Here PatsPulpit scribes hand out some grades for the various New England offensive, defensive and special teams units, as well as the coaching staff.

NOTE: These grades were calculated before the Patriots Week 9 loss to the Browns.

 

Bill Belichick

Richard Hill: B+

With all the preseason injuries, I'm surprised the team is (6-1) [written prior to the loss to Cleveland]. That said, I still disagree with how soft the defense plays coverage between the twenties and I think that's on Belichick.

Mike Dussault: A

Did anyone think the Patriots would be (6-1) [written prior to the loss to Cleveland] with this young defense? There's still a lot of work to be done, but winning while rebuilding is a rare feat and the mark of an excellent head coach. 

Stephen Verman: A

Bill has done an incredible job of coaching this team up. Replace him with any other coach in this league and they would struggle to get a winning record out of this squad. Bonus points go to his handling of the Randy Moss and Logan Mankins situations.

Tom Brady

Richard Hill: B+

Nothing spectacular, but he's still a player.

Mike Dussault: A-

Despite sometimes trying to force passes, especially to Randy Moss and later Deion Branch, Brady has been his usual solid self. He's spreading the ball around now and doing whatever it takes to win. 

Stephen Verman: B

In 2007, Brady’s touch on the deep ball was the best in the business. Now he’s just barely in the top five. Arm strength is not the problem, so I would lean toward blaming the knee injury. His decision-making was not the best against the Jets, but when the Patriots need a clutch drive that takes time off the clock and produces a score, he’s still the man.

 

Star-divide

 


Running Backs

Richard Hill: B

They can help out, but I still don't think anything can be expected of them.

Mike Dussault: B+

This grade pretty much goes for BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Danny Woodhead, the rest are incomplete. These two guys have been much better than expected, it's like we suddenly have Corey Dillon and Kevin Faulk lite out there. 

Stephen Verman: B+

Danny Woodhead and BenJarvus Green-Ellis are a good combination. They are well suited to their roles, and I like the effort they each give. Woodhead’s blocking has been a positive, and Green-Ellis is reliable for short yardage. I’d like to see a couple more big gains now and then.


Wide Receivers

Richard Hill: B

With the ball being so spread out, not much is known. They're still producing.

Mike Dussault: B

Welker and Tate have been inconsistent at times, but have made a fair share of big plays. Deion Branch had a big game in his return, but disappeared against the Chargers and was hampered by a hamstring injury against the Vikes. There have been times that none of the WRs have been able to get separation, causing Brady to take sacks or throw it away. 

Stephen Verman: C+

There have been too many drops in recent weeks, and no wide receiver has emerged as a consistent threat. Tate will be a huge deep threat once he finds his stride, and Welker is reliable although his production is down. This unit is struggling without Moss, but I think they just need a little time, and will improve by the end of the year.


Tight Ends

 

Richard Hill: A

Aaron Hernandez is awesome. Rob Gronkowski is awesome. Alge Crumpler is awesome.

Mike Dussault: A

What a difference a year makes and wow does the future look bright. Did anyone realize the kind of locker room presence we were getting with Alge Crumpler? Rob Gronkowski has been an unsung hero for his blocking (handled Ray Edwards one on one) while Aaron Hernandez's versatility is just scratching the surface. 

Stephen Verman: A-

Gronkowski and Hernandez are lucky to have Alge Crumpler to learn from. He is a class act and a great blocker. Despite the occasional mistakes, some more costly than others, the tight ends have changed the nature of the offense and been a big positive.


Offensive Line

Richard Hill: C+

They started off well, but have been a sieve the past couple weeks.

Mike Dussault: A-

There were some protection issues against the Raven and Chargers but they buttoned up against the Vikings. The running game has also been sharp when it's needed to be. Not quite dominant, but this group will be even better once Logan Mankins gets in there.

Stephen Verman: B

Some games have been better than others. Overall this is a good squad but there is definitely room for improvement. Getting Mankins back may give them some confidence and attitude.


Defensive Line

Richard Hill: B+

They're doing well with stopping/slowing the run, but they're still not opening big enough holes for the linebackers. Brandon Deaderick is a surprise rising star

Mike Dussault: A-

This all starts with the run game and the Patriots have yet to give up a 100-yard rusher this season. While the pass rush could be a little better both Myron Pryor, Brandon Deaderick, and Mike Wright have shown sparks. Ron Brace has shown flashes, while Gerard Warren has been a versatile presence at all positions.

Stephen Verman: B+

The depth and versatility of this group is very impressive. Bill has done a good job identifying the strengths of each player and putting them in a position to use their talents. Wilfork has been playing his heart out, but just imagine how much better he would be with Ty Warren at his side….


Outside Linebackers

Richard Hill: A-

Rob Ninkovich and Jermaine Cunningham have exceeded expectations. So has Shawn Crable (but he had 0 expectations). Tully Banta-Cain hasn't played as he should. All are doing well against the run and the pass.

Mike Dussault: B+

There have been some growing pains, especially setting the edge for Rob Ninkovich and Jermaine Cunningham. But both have improved with each game and made their fair shares of plays. Tully Banta-Cain has been reduced to more of a DPR role, he needs to start producing a little more.

Stephen Verman: B

Overall the production from this position has been better than expected, but still needs to get better. Cunningham looks like he is steadily improving, and Ninkovich has been one of the top surprises. Banta-Cain has yet to hit the level he was playing at last year, and on the whole this position needs to be more consistent.


Inside Linebackers

Richard Hill: A-

Jerod Mayo is an all-star and Brandon Spikes is playing well. Gary Guyton is a liability, but Dane Fletcher should be taking a lot of his snaps.

Mike Dussault: A-

Jerod Mayo gets an A+, he is back to being the tackling machine we thought he'd be after 2008. Brandon Spikes has shown some inconsistency recognizing play action, but he's been a huge factor in the run game. Gary Guyton hasn't made plays like he did in week one, and I wonder if Dane Fletcher will soon take over as the passing down LB next to Mayo.

Stephen Verman: A-

The combination of Mayo and Spikes is a success, and they should continue to improve as the season goes on. Gary Guyton has not been great, but Dane Fletcher has stepped up when called upon. Guyton is one of the fastest linebackers in the league, and I’d like to see him sent on blitzes more.


Cornerbacks

Richard Hill: C+

Devin McCourty is a great surprise and is playing well. After that, not so much. Darius Butler was benched. Kyle Arrington can't block a pass or defend a hitch route if his life depended on it. Surprisingly, Jonathan Wilhite has been one of the more solid performers. That's how you know it's bad.

Mike Dussault: B

There have been some bumps but Devin McCourty looks like a future pro bowler, while Kyle Arrington has been solid and physical. Jonathan Wilhite had a bad game against the Vikings but he's been better this year than he was last year. Darius Butler continues to wait for another shot. I find it interesting he hasn't been tried at nickel over Wilhite yet.

Stephen Verman: C+

Given the inexperience among this unit the overall result has not been bad. McCourty is a fantastic competitor, and does a good job of sticking with his man. As he gets more comfortable he should be able to anticipate routes and possibly snag a few more interceptions. Arrington has shown good tackling ability, but his lack of experience shows. If these guys can put the mistakes behind them and keep improving they could be adequate come playoff time.


Safeties

Richard Hill: B

Pat Chung is an All-Star. After that- eh. Brandon Meriweather is uncertain. James Sanders isn't playing well. Jarrad Page is injured, but was okay. Sergio Brown is exceeding expectations, but is still considered "okay" when looking at him as a player.

Mike Dussault: B+

All four top safeties have missed time due to injuries (Chung, Page, Sanders), and "freelancing" (Meriweather). But Chung was having a break out year before missing most of the Chargers game and all of the Vikings game. If Meriweather can settle down and play within the system this could be a very good group. James Sanders remains solid, but isn't exceptional in any area. Jared Page was just starting to come on before getting hurt. It will be interesting to see how he's used once he does return. Sergio Brown is big guy and has played well in limited time. His ceiling is not yet known.

Stephen Verman: B

I think Chung and Meriweather can be a solid duo given some time. Right now Meriweather needs to focus on doing the little things right, and making that his base to improve upon. Sanders is a nice player to have when others are injured, but he is just good, not great. Getting Chung back is key to stopping the run, as he and Mayo can cover the entire field and rarely botch a tackle.


Kicker

Richard Hill: B+

Stephen Gostkowski is great on kickoffs and has shaken off his early season field goal issues.

Mike Dussault: A-

After a shaky start Gostkowski has gotten back to his Pro Bowl ways.

Stephen Verman: B

Gostkowski’s misses to begin the season were inexcusable, but he straightened it out. His leg on kickoffs has been a plus.


Punter

Richard Hill: B+

Zoltan Mesko has been worlds better than Chris Hanson. Still a rookie.

Mike Dussault: A-

Given the fact that he's a rookie Mesko has been excellent. His punt in overtime against the Ravens has to be a highlight of the first half of the season. He still has some inconsistency at times, hopefully that improves. 

Stephen Verman: B

Mesko still has some kinks to iron out, but I’ve generally been impressed with him, especially as a holder on field goals. He’s got plenty of leg.


Overall Special Teams

Richard Hill: B

Nothing terrible. Jake Ingram has been iffy, but everyone else is playing well. Tracey White is playing great special teams.

Mike Dussault: A-

Brandon Tate started off like gangbusters but has leveled off as teams began game planning for him. Overall this is a top five unit that almost singlehandedly won the Miami game

Stephen Verman: A-

Brandon Tate is a feared returner, and overall this unit has been great. People questioned Bill’s preseason trades for "special-teams only" players, but Tracey White has been terrific in coverage. I’d like to see a little more from the punt returners.


Overall Offense

Richard Hill: B+

Apart from the debacle against San Diego, the offense has been pretty good. They're good against teams they should be good against. They're mediocre against teams they should be mediocre against.

Mike Dussault: B+

They're still searching for their identity a bit, but so far they've been making the plays they need to win the games.

Stephen Verman: B

The offense has uncharacteristically started games slowly, but are generally coming through when it counts. I think Brady could improve, but his leadership has been key through the Moss transition. If he can continue to develop an understanding with Tate, Gronkowski, Hernandez and Woodhead, this unit will be very tough to defend come playoff time (knock on wood). The running game has been productive, but I’d like to see more big gains. Perhaps the return of Fred Taylor would help, but ‘Law Firm’ and Woodhead have been solid.


Overall Defense

Richard Hill: B+

With so many injuries, this young defense is defying logic and exceeding expectations. They're getting the job done- barely.

Mike Dussault: B

They're doing enough to let the offense win, but barely. If not for a solid run D their (6-2) record could be much different. The pass defense, especially on third down, could be this teams achilles heal. There is no area that needs improvement more than there.

Stephen Verman: B-

This defense is playing well above their talent level, and should only get better. They have developed a good team-first mentality and are learning to trust each other and step up when it matters. Neither the run defense nor the pass defense is especially consistent, but they are playing good situational football. They face some tough offenses in the second half of the season, and if they can slow them down it could bode well for a playoff run. I’d like to see a few more takeaways though.


Overall Coaching

Richard Hill: B

With such great, but young, talent, the coaches are doing a pretty good job.

Mike Dussault: A

The team is (6-2) and that's all that matters. An excellent, potentially Coach of the Year worthy, performance from Bill Belichick.

Stephen Verman: A

I give a huge tip of the cap to the coaching squad as a whole. Special teams coach Scott O’Brien especially has done a wonderful job. The responsibility-sharing system Bill has devised seems to be working, and the players have benefited from his heavy involvement.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 10, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

CS, SMP, Marima, Greg and I are not included?

jk

great job btw I would give BB A-.

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by NinjaZX6R on Nov 10, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I want in on this too.

by Justin_Bobo on Nov 11, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't get my homework assignment in on time

so I get an F, lol. (Just don’t tell my father or I’ll be grounded)

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 11, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 15, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Uh... what?!?
This all starts with the run game and the Patriots have yet to give up a 100-yard rusher this season.

Are we pretending Sunday never happened?

by RSNexile on Nov 10, 2010 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

Purging it from memory with alcohol...

That’s a gameplan with Belichickian genius.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

NOTE: These grades were calculated before the Patriots Week 9 loss to the Browns

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by NinjaZX6R on Nov 10, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

NOTE: These grades were calculated before the Patriots Week 9 loss to the Browns

Are you sure?

The team is (6-2) and that’s all that matters.

I’m not.

by RSNexile on Nov 10, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

are we pretending...i hope so lol

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by NinjaZX6R on Nov 10, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Mid-term Grades

Congratulations gentlemen. I thought Dane Fletcher was flying under the radar but you too are seeing the college DE becoming a pro LB . Ever since I picked him at the NE/NO workouts he reminded me of another DE that became an outstanding LB and team leader.
This years draft might the best of all time. The defense was rebuilt and two TEs added.

by BEAR73 on Nov 10, 2010 9:13 PM EST reply actions  

certainly overexceeded expectations with a *

It’s a strange year in NFL town…nobody is knocking it out of the park apart from Arjen Foster (?!? yes that kind of year…)

What can you say about the Pats…we were all clenching butt cheeks after last years showing…had BB really lost his touch and were we destined for mediocrity as he played out the Brady days a la Don Shula? Tell me you weren’t thinking it…

So what can we say?

Nobody is talking about play calling or lack of adjustments, so coaching gets the A.

Despite what people say OL wo 2 starters has been solid, same for RB (I don’t buy BJGE tries hard but just not it, though Woodhead has retired Faulk).

WR are young, would like to see more Edelman instead of trying to force it to Welker.

TE has overperformed…I’ll take one of AH’s cigarettes!

DL has overperformed, not great, but way better than expected.

LB, again better than expected, 8 sacks for the rest of the year from OLB would be a good result.

DBs, can’t complain about McCourty, although he has benefitted from teams going to the other side. Chung is a rock star, and people need to stop drinking the cool aide on Meriweather, he’s laid some serious wood and is a shade away from being dominant.

To me the only qn is Brady…last year he gets a pass, but this is the guy who made Caldwell and Gaffney look like NFL WRs…and he is struggling with this bunch…? All is not well in the state of Denmark

by buachz on Nov 10, 2010 9:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Questions about Brady?

1. Moss gets traded
2. Branch gets brought in’
3. His receivers lead the league in dropped pass %
4. He had to start his adventure with these new guys against the Ravens (ouch), Chargers (ouch, the defense is good despite bon-headed plays by offense and special teams), Vikings (dysfunctional but Brady made the plays), and Browns (whole team played bad).

Not the greatest sample size to start raising questions about Brady. Oh yeah, the team is 3-1 in those 4 games I mentioned. He has also thrown 5 touchdowns and 2 interceptions (1 which was at the end of regulation on a hail mary heading to overtime against the Ravens)

by pats4life on Nov 11, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, too

A third (probably only a quarter now) of those drops were Moss himself – 5 drops in 4 games. Welker has something like 5 from 8 games, too, and everyone else has one or two.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

OK?

that still emans guys are dropping the ball. Does Brady get those drops from Moss back? Does he get those touchdowns that Moss dropped? Does he get those interceptions written off the records cause of dropped passes?
No, he doesn’t. Take the stats as they are. Let’s not get too involved in the “Moss is a third of them” dealio

by pats4life on Nov 11, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

No, but the offence has changed a little since

I’d almost start counting the game-4 onwards drops as different from the games 1-3 drops, just because the scheme changed.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

oh and the *

Sure we beat the Ravens, Vikes and Chargers, but none are last years teams so we really don’t quite know where we are.

I expect a good game against the Steelers, losing in a close one, banged up colts they have to beat, Jets at home they have to win…Packers game could be the yardstick…

by buachz on Nov 10, 2010 9:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Brady

Needs dependable hands, and good route running, that`s been a problem with the receivers TEs. I know the no-huddle tires players, but the offense is amazing during the no-huddle, I dont know why we dont just use it all the time

by HailHoodie on Nov 10, 2010 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

The Patriots lead the league in % passes dropped.

So yeah. That’s 50% on Brady, 50% on the receiver, especially when Brady hits them in the hands, even though the ball is at their ankles. It counts.

by Richard Hill on Nov 10, 2010 11:32 PM EST reply actions  

I think it worked well against the Browns' defense...

…and it should work well against the Steelers. Both defenses thrive on a lot of movement to disguise potential schemes before the play. No huddle removes that confusion or, even better, confuses the Steelers themselves. The Patriots were able to get into a groove in the no huddle because the Browns were unable to jam the receivers as consistently and that’s the main problem for the small receiving core.

by Richard Hill on Nov 11, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think dropped passes

are as much on Brady. Rarely are dropped passes counted unless it is obvious that they are dropped instead of pass defensed.

by pats4life on Nov 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Chicken and egg...

offences work better with rhythm, so if Brady’s misfiring, WRs can’t get into their stride. And if WRs can’t get into their stride, when Brady does fire a beautiful pass, they’re as likely not to catch it.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep

That’s what Brady and Branch and Welker have all said in interviews lately – that the WRs were freelancing routes and not doing them as they were drawn up. After the Browns wakeup call, I’d imagine they have the routes tattooed onto their eyeballs this week by Belichick and the coaching staff. I’d certainly expect it, anyway.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopefully

And I hope Tate and Gronkowsky put glue on their hands as well

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Young and/or new to the system.

Branch only saw the playbook for the first time a month ago; Woodhead a month-and-a-bit. The rookies are bound to be, well, rookies (include Tate in that, as he’s only got 2 games more experience than Hernandez, Gronk, etc). Crumpler’s also relatively new to the playbook.

That leaves Welker (hurt) and Edelman (hurt).

On the plus side – they should improve.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we`ll improver

Still sucks getting beat by Fredo, how come bill isnt getting more blame, they were outcoached

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike Reiss's mail reply thing had someone point that out...

That Belichick didn’t actually say “we were outcoached” in his presser, like he usually does after a beatdown. To be fair, I don’t think they really were. If you took away Gronk’s fumble and the fair catch kickoff debacle, the Pats were right in it. Considering the Pats had been stronger in the second half in the last month and a bit, they could’ve been right in it, and the only difference was the awful execution.

I do think they underestimated Hillis – I couldn’t tell you why Mike Wright was starting on the D-line. But the execution was far, far worse than the coaching.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Dissagree

And I did see a Hoodie statement saying they were outcoached, To me is the trick plays and obvious run stops, you just cant let that happen

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, found it

It was actually from Pats Football Weekly:

Coach BB did not state this time that the Pats were outcoached by the Browns, and I wonder if he didn’t want to tip anything to Eric Mangini, or he felt that his team was well prepared but just didn’t execute.
Stan C.

That’s a very perceptive observation by my man Stan. Belichick usually does say the team was outcoached and outplayed when it gets manhandled like it was by the Browns. He didn’t do that in Cleveland. Why? I have no idea. But it is an interesting observation and your theory, Stan, is certainly a potential answer. I’m not saying it’s correct, but it’s at least plausible. It’s also possible he couldn’t stand saying such a thing about his former assistant, with whom he’s clearly had a somewhat strained relationship (to put it mildly) with since he left New England. To be fair, though, Belichick did reference being outcoached in his comments the day after the embarrassing loss.
Andy Hart

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 11, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Comon

you didnt eexpect anything better than 6-2

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Record does not excuse sloppy play

Neither does them surpassing my expectations.
And, for the record, I thought they could be 6-2 at this point. Not after the Jets loss, but at first.
This offense looked freaking superb until the 2nd half of that Jets game. Then it was good again. Seriously it was ridiculous with Moss barring that Jets 2nd half. The team was easily a juggernaut even with the shotty play at defense.
Notice how once Mos is gone and the defense started playing decnet everyone said “they miss Randy.” Well the team is what it is. I could’ve forseen 6-2 before the season and with Moss.

by pats4life on Nov 11, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Truthfully

I didnt expect 6-2 at the start of the year and I agree that the offense was better with Moss, but I still think that this team can win and Im happy with what Ive seen. Yes the browns game hurt, trust me it hurt me just as much as you, buth I think we`ll improve from that

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny thing is

what I took from it at least, is the team only played exceptionally bad once they let the game get out of hand.
1. 3-0 deficit and muffing the kickoff? Suddenly 10-0
2. Driving trailing 17-7 and a rookie tight end fumbles on the 6 which prevents the team from getting points and then getting the momentum back after half time?

The game really was bad because of those 2 plays. They don’t happen the complexity of the game is completely different. I didn’t care that the Browns scored all those meaningless points later on. The turnovers were the difference in the game. They were only outplayed because they were underprepared. Which leads me back to SLOPPY PLAY.

by pats4life on Nov 11, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

With the addition of the Browns last drive, it was ridicolous that we knew what they were going to do and we still didnt stop them

by HailHoodie on Nov 11, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

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