New York Jets Sign OLB Shawn Crable
by Richard Hill on Nov 19, 2010 8:39 PM EST
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PrintOuch. It appears that OLB Shawn Crable has signed with the New York Jets, adding plenty of years in the Patriots system to the Jets roster. Crable had been on the Patriots roster for a couple years, but his time with the team had been marred with injuries. This past week, after the Pittsburgh Steelers game, Crable was released due to his lack of versatility on defense and on special teams. Crable was primarily used as a pass rusher, but was ineffective against the run and was not a great special teams player.
The Jets add themselves a potentially dangerous player. Their coach Rex Ryan is great with creating packages that play to his players' strengths and Crable, despite his injuries, had plenty of potential. He's an athletic player, even if he's not especially strong. I believe that Ryan will be able to use Crable on a variety of plays to generate pressure up the interior on delays or blitzes. Crable has the speed to reach the quarterback, but he needs to be in a position where a tackle can't push him outside. By sending Crable up the middle in the A or B gaps, he should be more able to reach the quarterback.
The Patriots had replaced Crable with former Patriot OLB Pierre Woods. Woods is more solid against the run than Crable and is a stud special teams player. While Woods isn't that great in coverage, he can provide a solid compliment to fellow OLB Rob Ninkovich at the LOLB spot, playing across from Tully Banta-Cain or Jermaine Cunningham. Woods has found his ceiling, so the Patriots know what to expect from him, and he should definitely be used on run defense downs. Facing the Colts, who like to use dump passes and screens to their running backs, Woods will provide a solid player to trace whoever is given the ball.
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I'm not sure Crable could tell the Jets much about the Pats D
Given they were using him seemingly only as a 40-front DE with his hand down (which is what he played in college), I wonder if he just never picked up how to play 3-4 OLB in much the same way that Vernon Gholston seems to have not managed it. If that’s the case, the very fact he was cut suggests it’s no big loss to have him on the Jets, at least in terms of a tell-them-everything-he-knows kind of way.
Rex Ryan might find a use for him, but Ryan hasn’t found a use for Vernon Gholston, and Gholston’s bigger, stronger and more injury-resistant than Crable is.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Gholston was better in college than crable
pple remember Gholston for one thing….for sacking Chad Henne….the only sack allowed by Jake Long ever @ Mich.
pple remember Crable for one thing…for hitting Troy Smith (helmet to helmet contact) on a 3rd and 16th ( a very crucial drive)
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IMO think Gholston's problem is his head has been out of the game for some time now.
by mad science on Nov 19, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I suspect that's Crable's problem, too
He looked great in preseason as a rookie… which was 3 years ago. Since then, nada. And he didn’t even pass his physical to begin the year after coming off the PUP list.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 19, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
check out the new post on the fanshot area lol
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unless he is on their active roster...i dont fear him
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nothing to fear...
but it sure seems like the jets love to piss off belichick by signing players they have no intention of playing but just for info, and I wouldnt doubt this is the same.
in related news…tebow got rookie player of the week as i predicted lmao. what a joke.
this
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I knew it....
ridiculous on so many levels.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
Creator of the moniker "DDR©"
Well, one team's trash is another team's.....
nah never mind, it’s still trash. Crable won’t let us down, injuring himself long before our Monday night game with the Jets.
lol...anyone watch the Bill Parcells aka CS's Dad...on tv
they talk about the whole thing w. Parcells last season as a Patriot….and BB and Kraft had this awkward face like i don’t want to talk about this!!!
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"I wanted to be late"
I loved BB going into the meeting behind Romeo Crennel and saying he wanted to be late so Parcells could have s/o to yell at on NFL FIlms.
by AdrenalineJunkie on Nov 20, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Wish we (jets) could have kept a roster spot open for woodhead
I think we gave that slot to either chauncey washington or david clowney because he was getting reps at WR. And now he’s breaking tackles? WTF?
My point? You guys clearly got the better player in this one.
I am personally pissed at this.
Crable has lots of potential and is just a better player than Woods. Disappointed they gave up on him based on what 5 healthy games?
I’m not worried about the “shared info” crap because by the time the Jets game is upon we will have a completely different gameplan than Crable has ever seen. I’m pissed about the fact that we gave away a player with plenty of potential and ideal size for a lack of special teams ability.
I would have agreed...
except for the fact Crable only seemed to have played DE in sub-packages with 4 down linemen. That’s what he’d been doing in college, and the fact they were only using him situationally in the role he played 4 years ago suggests that they had given up on him playing 3-4 OLB completely. Throw in the fact he didn’t play special teams, and that guys like Dane Fletcher (who was also a 4-3 DE in college) are playing in all special teams units as well as ILB and OLB, and keeping Crable begins to look like a luxury rather than a necessity.
Throw in the fact that the Pats can’t guarantee any touchbacks on kickoffs any more with Gostkowski being hurt, and adding a guy with plenty of special teams kickoff coverage experience makes a lot more sense than a situational passing-down DE.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
saw him on kick return duties against the steelers
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He got a ST tackle, so I assumed it was
but that’s part of it – the STs in the last two games looked pretty bad, when they’d been a strength in prior games.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind getting Jarrad Page back, too
He was on all 4 main ST units before his injury.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
Page was one of those 'better than expected' pick-ups
It was good to see him return to practice, and hopefully he’ll be available to play soon.
Keep the faith!
Have to agree with this...
Obviously you risk being dispatched to purgatory if you criticize BB but I’m not sure I totally agree with what BB is doing.
From looking at the moves the feeling I get is alot of these moves have not been for football reasons. BB will get rid of a better player if he has an inferior player who is drinking more cool aid. If you are a gym rat and buy into the program then that seems to count for a lot. And in truth it might do, a worse player can be ‘in the best interests of the team’ if the positive effect he has on other players is greater than his lack of individual talent at his position. I’m guessing people aren’t buying this yet so some examples…
David Patten…clearly wasn’t going to make the team but ‘great example’
Moss over Branch…sure Moss was a ‘great teammate’ but the pictures of him with his headphones on at Krafts charity event aren’t a good message to the younger players, and how much can he really teach them, he’s big and fast and has great hand eye coordination…nothing that young players can learn, unlike Branch.
Why do you think they rarely budge when players want more money. Wilfork came back, but clearly at a below market rate.
That’s why all this talk of ST contribution tells me it is more to do with buying into the program than being good at STs.
I think it worked at the start of the decade, but that team had more talent already on it which is the problem. You need some leaders. Mayo is good but is not a leader. The D is nowhere near as good without Chung.
Players like McKenzie, Wheatley and Crable all showed signs they were workers, but if you have suffered serious injury, then you don’t train 100% until you have battle tested the injury, and I just think BB pulled the rip cord too fast. And for what, to keep Fred Taylor on the roster, Sammy Morris, Ryan Wendell, Rich Ohrnburger, Levoir….really…sacrificed alot of upside there for players who clearly will never contribute alot…
Don't get it twisted
The release of Crable was a football move…..just like all the others were also…..and I’m also not sure about the “Mayo is good but not a leader” thing, because he doesn’t need to be loud, and rambunctious; he leads by example. And right now, his example is leading the ENTIRE LEAGUE in tackles. And truth is, most folks wanted the Pats to move up and take Gholston, not move down and take Mayo. And, for the most part, the ST hasn’t been as good as it has been recently, so whatever can improve that has to be considered a “football move”.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
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Why do you think they rarely budge when players want more money. Wilfork came back, but clearly at a below market rate.
Eh? Wilfork’s the highest-paid 3-4 Nose Tackle in the league.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why all this talk of ST contribution tells me it is more to do with buying into the program than being good at STs.
Nah, Hoodie really values his ST contributors. Sam Aiken and Matthew Slater were vying for one ST roster spot, but Slater was more valuable on the field as a gunner. Aiken actually had a leg up in terms of “buying into the program” – he was a team captain the year before. Slater wasn’t, and still isn’t.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
he sucked
leave the gun, take the connolis
by injuredrightshoulder on Nov 20, 2010 4:20 AM EST reply actions
Let us not lament
the loss of Shawn Crable. The guy sucked straight up. He will suck with the Jets and anywhere else he goes.
That is as plain as I can put it.
I don't think Woods has found his ceiling yet.
I’ve seen pass rush fro him during the jets game in 08(think he was released in 09?), and I think he has a bit more potential for that.
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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releasd in 10 in TC
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okey-doke. :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
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I'm not worried about Crable
sure most of us would have liked the luxury of one day tapping that so called potential of his to be a whirling dervish on the field. BB and the staff know well and good who and who is not expendable. Can you name me one middle of the road or worse player we have given up that has gone on to thrive elsewhere? I mean, it happens with most teams, but I really can’t think of one right now. Ok, Dan Klecko made a play against us when the Colts picked him up, but he lasted there all of a bout a year and where is he now? In that case, the Pats kind of brought out some of is potential and a stacked Colts team had the luxury of using that small part of his skill in those certain down and distance situations.
I remember when half of the people here were quite worried that that stud Adalius Thomas was going to be picked up by the Jets and set loose on us for revenge.
I’m sure someone can name a player or two who saw some significant minutes on another team after BB let him go, but I don’t see many Danny Woodhead, Rodney Harrison, or Mike Vrabels out there(and don’t say Mike Vrabel) that have shown we swung and missed on them. And don’t say Jim Plunkett, or Rich Gannon either.
Damien Woody might be the only one who left and played as well or better post-Patriots
And Lawyer Milloy is having a superb season this year. Asante Samuel is getting picks for the Eagles, but it says a lot that they were willing to trade Samuel and Donovan McNabb to the Raiders in exchange for Nnamdi Asomugha. Those like-for-like trades don’t happen very often (Orton for Cutler comes to mind) and usually happens when a player has annoyed management.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, but those are not
players who were “undeveloped”, or who we didn’t think were good enough players. All these guys were gone because of contract disputes, and the had proven their worth on the field, but were business decisions based mostly on finances. Harrison may have been a money issue for San Diego, but their was an overriding notion that they felt he was not the player he once was.
I would be interested to know if there have been any guys who were cut at the earlier stages who ended up thriving elsewhere. Right now we’ve got Crable and Mckenzie as slim possibilities to build a career elsewhere. Oh yeah, Wheatly also.
Agreed
It was more an indication of just how good the Pats are about letting people go at the right time, whether they’re playing badly or they want more cash. Only one guy probably lived up to his cash demands – Woody – and Samuel and Milloy had success after leaving the Pats, but probably not enough to justify their paydays elsewhere. Everyone else underperformed or washed out of the league.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 20, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
What about the wendy's guy?
What about Dave Thomas? I don’t his stats, but he looked good for the saints last year. I don’t remember if he was cut or traded for a draft pick, does traded for a draft pick count?
by feetey on Nov 20, 2010 7:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, he's been pretty good
and has fit in well with the Saints. Looking at Gronk and Herndo, I have a hard time regretting letting him go, but he does contribute for the Saints, esp. woth Shockey often being injured.
he was traded...he has played well under their system
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As a jets fan I've been beginning to wonder
if Rex is winding his own guys by calling so many blitzes. He likes to fire the fresh guy in there so i assume that’s where Crable will fit in. My concern is that those roster spots are precious and i’d much rather have a weapon like woodhead than another guy coming in to blitz the qb less than 10 times per game like Jason Taylor’s current role for us.
BB has done a great job in how he’s using Woodhead. He has a history of getting the most out of his offensive players. Rex has a history of getting the most out of his guys on D, maybe he can bring out the beast you guys were hoping for.
Oh and furiousd, you forgot about Curtis Martin.
No, again, thatt's missing the point
First off, we’re talking about Belichick, and not earlier. I’m also not talking about players with a proven track record, like Curtis. Curtis was great, but the front office at the time thought they would rather have a first and a third then match the offer the Jets made.
Do you remember who you guys got with those picks?
Curtis was an iron man. Might have overtaken Freeman Mcneil as our all time leader before he retired if memory serves me correctly. I know a lot of Pats fans really hated that move.
Yeah, we got Robert Edwards
who had a great rookie season and looked promising then blew out his knee during an event on the beach at the Pro Bowl. Never played for the Pats again, though they were very generous with time and money for his rehab. We also got Fullback Chris Floyd, who had a forgettable career.
You have to remember that this was the year after the Parcells leaving, and he was the one who was adamant about getting Martin for the picks after he joined the Jets. Nice move Bill…….you bastard.
On a more upsetting topic IMO
Over at the Dolts blog they are stirring up a story about how the Pats, BB and co. have monitoring devices in the locker room. You stay classy Indy.
by furiousd on Nov 20, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yep. I commented. lol :)
I’ll take 11 players with heart on the field over 11 guys with just talent. Talent is fleeting, it goes away over time. Heart is what drives you to be better. To push yourself beyond what you think your capabilities are. To show us that when you strive, all things are possible.- SMP
These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
I'm also a Raider Fan dammit!!! RAIDER NATION!!!!
I know, but the link on the SB Nation ad caught my eye
so i had to check it out. I thought it would be BBSface, but it was someone else. Seems that Manning started it, by being paranoid and not wanting to talk in the Pats locker room, an anonymous source gave this to Peter King. Now the Colts blogger is stating that because they posted it, it is being picked up as a legitimate story by other news outlets. Sigh………modern day journalism.
I hope we have listening devices so after the game we can record Peyton’s sobbing and then set it as our ringtones.
by quadruple option on Nov 20, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Classic, lol
Can’t wait to see what lines you come up with tomorrow
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
Creator of the moniker "DDR©"
lol...me too
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