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The end of, "Back in my day....".

FOXBORO MA - NOVERMBER 21: James Sanders #36 of the New England Patriots intercepts a pass in the fourth quarter as Pierre Garcon #85 of the Indianapolis Colts looks on at Gillette Stadium on November 21 2010 in Foxboro Massachusetts. The Patriots won 31-28. (Photo by Jim Rogash/Getty Images)

 Everyone has a parent or grandparent that was fond of saying, "Back in my day...."   There was the, "Back in my day we had to walk to school ten miles ... uphill ... both ways ... and we were grateful ...."   Or for Pats fans, "Back in my day we had Tedy Bruschi, Mike Vrabel, and Willie McGinest, and we were grateful because they ended years of struggling, of almost being relevant, and finally gave us a championship or three."  Those tales being told by those of us old enough to remember, are cherished memories for us, but we need to keep in mind the younger generation.  For them, names like Babe Parilli and John Hannah fall into the same category as Babe the Blue Ox and Johnny Appleseed.  Legends that they've heard, but are far away from their reality.  They are a NOW generation, and they want to see results from their heroes, today.

At the start of the season Bill Belichick removed the pictures of past glory from the walls of Gillete.  A new coat of paint and a fresh slate awaited both the younger and the older Patriot players.  There was a picture of Troy Brown lined up opposite Donald Driver (then one of the best WR's in the game) as a cornerback.  Certainly a cherished memory, but that picture is gone; replaced by James Sanders picking off Peyton Manning to seal the win at Gillete.  A new cherished memory for a new generation of players and fans alike.  While Sanders may be the focus of the picture, it was the whole defense in on that play.  A push up the middle by Wilfork, Cunningham hitting Manning on the edge, Guyton jamming the TE on the line, McCourty's tight coverage of Garcon, and Sander's seeing Manning's eyes and knowing he could try to make a play.  A picture of Sanders catching the ball.  A picture of the defense stepping up and making a play.  A new chapter in Patriots history.

These aren't your grandfather's Patriots.  These aren't your father's Patriots.  Very few guys on this team have three rings, in fact few have any rings at all.  Some have only seen the Super Bowl from the losing bench, and that's not a bad thing.  Neither was the loss to the Browns this year.  Sometimes, when you're successful, you forget how much work went into that success.  You forget how razor thin the line between success and failure can be.  As Belichick put it, "This is the NFL.  There are no bad teams."  There are teams that are poorly lead, there are teams that refuse to follow, and there are teams that haven't put it all together yet.  They all have talent and any given Sunday, they can cause an upset or get on a roll that, like the Giants who got hot at the right time, can end with a Lombardi Trophy.  These Patriots now realize that as they prepare for the Lions on Thanksgiving.  Another good team that hasn't put it all together ... yet.  A big, "Thank you", to the Browns for that lesson learned.

These guys are young, but they're listening and learning.  They're immature, but disciplined and work hard.  They're ignorant, but not willfully so.  They have a lot to experience before they reach their individual peaks, but they're doing their jobs and they're fighting for each other.  They are gelling as a team, and from where I sit, the skies the limit for these guys.  No, these aren't your father's Patriots, who found a way to win when needed.  They're YOUR Patriots, and they're making their own history.  They're writing their own names into Patriots legend, so listen, watch and enjoy, and someday you can say, "Back in my day...."

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Somehow, I was thinking about you when I wrote this.

Strange that….

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd for the Grandpa Simpson reference.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 23, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it

As much as I love the past Patriot Greats (Rodney Harrison especially), you make an excellent point. This is a new team. We should focus on what they will accomplish, and not worry about how they compare to the past. This is the NFL. What have you done for me lately?
I am excited to see what Bill can do with this group and the players he drafts next year.

by Stephen Verman on Nov 23, 2010 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Sometimes we focus so much on where we want them to be, that we don't watch as they get there.

These guys are learning and growing and, yes, sometimes falling down, but in the process they’re turning into good football players and more importantly, a good team.

I love this season, no matter where we end up, because the promise of next season is even better.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Back in my day, that fella Brady threw to that guy Branch.

Oh. Wait.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 23, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It's like deja vu all over again!

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Great read

In a lot of ways, I’m still getting used to this new era of Patriots football. Obviously, when you have Brady and Belichick, you have a little bit of the blending of the two eras.

In a strange way, I really advocate the Patriots holding on to those 3X Super Bowl Champions. Of course we’ve got Brady, but right now, the only other healthy one is Matt Light. Kevin Faulk is on IR, Stephen Neal is probably out for at least another game or two. We should bring back Ty Law… wait. No we shouldn’t, I don’t know. Willie McGinest anyone?

by Greg Knopping on Nov 23, 2010 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

The great thing is how Belichick keeps the team in contention.

 
 After talking to the Lions fans, I hope we don’t have to look back so far to say, "Back in my day…."

I love Kevin Faulk and he may come back from his injury. I’d love to keep him, but does he still have a job here anymore? Does he still want to? He’s year by year anymore, and I wouldn’t be shocked to hear a retirement speech this off-season.

Neal thought about retiring last off-season as well. Will he?

If Mankins leaves and we pick up another tackle, Light may slide into guard and stay relevant for awhile.

Yeah, the old guard is passing away. We’ve got Sanders and Meriweather that PLAYED with Harrison. We’ve got Mayo, Banta-Cain and Guyton that PLAYED with Bruschi and Vrabel. We’ve got Wilfork and Wright that PLAYED with Seymour. There’s some continuity.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that continuity

Is part of what makes this “transition” for the team a little different. I’ve heard a bunch of TV analysts talk about how the Pats did their rebuilding during a couple winning seasons and I have to think a lot of that was being able to bring in new, talented players while the veterans were still around to teach them how to play. Or, in the case of our tight ends, we brought in a pretty highly qualified teacher to do the job. Certainly something to be thankful for.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Nov 23, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point about Crumpler.

Also we had Givens, Holt, Welker, and Moss on the teaching staff this pre-season, and now we have Branch. School’s still in session.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 23, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Would've been nice

to have Rodney Harrison or Ty Law around as well though

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Nov 23, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The Defense has not been as fortunate in replacing leadership or skill as O

While the offense really has improved over the last decade you can certainly argue the defense has declined or at best broke even prior to this year.

I can somewhat fault BB for not handling things correctly, but I think this also shows how difficult it is to run a successful D in the NFL.

Also – it’s not always the best players that make the best teachers. Law and Harrison were great as players, but I’m not sure their natural abilities translate into being great teachers.

by JonnyNYC on Nov 24, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, very true

I mean, the defense in 03-04 was pretty ridiculous when you think about it. Expecting to maintain that level of play over a period of years is unreasonable in my opinion, though it certainly would be nice haha.

About former players though, I’m waiting for the day they bring Tedy Bruschi onto the coaching staff.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Nov 24, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd agree about Law, but not necessarily Harrison.

He was never the best physical specimen as a safety (like Troy Palomalu). He was great because he played smart football.

Even the Tyree helmet catch. Samuel was on Tyree on the other side of the field (Meriweather’s side if I remember). He left Tyree, and when Harrison saw he was open, he ran across the field and almost got there in time.

Bruschi was the same way. Smart, but not as physically gifted.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Law and Harrison were great as players, but I’m not sure their natural abilities translate into being great teachers.

When Mangini was D-backs coach, he kept begging Belichick to cut Law because Law was disruptive in training and a bad example for the young D-backs. Belichick was realistic and knew Law was too vital to just cut.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 24, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome article...recd

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by NinjaZX6R on Nov 23, 2010 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

Good post

i liked this article alot. And to me, what hte pats are doing is more impressive than any superbowl they won, even as impressive as the undefeated season (last great year for alot of the guys from the title teams, plus additions of moss and other allstar talent)

Its just unbelievable how Bill has retooled this team. This just doesnt happen, a team goes on a great run and when they get old: its over. 90’s cowboys, packers, broncos, 49ers, etc…… still had great qb and some talented players but once it was over, it was just over. Aikman on a 6-10 cowboy team, or favre on a packers team struggling to make the playoffs, steve young and jerry rice lining up for a loser…. faulk bruce and warner on a team crapping the bed that was once great.

heck even in other sports, look at the celtics once larry hung em up, or the pistons of today compared to a few years ago.

Its just really really hard to retool like this….. the only team ive ever seen do it is the 49ers of the 80’s, who had a whole new team in 1989 other than lott and montana and were winning the superbowl just the same as they did in 81, 4th ring of that decade

our last realistic shot at a ring wouldve been 2008 had brady not got injured, coming off the superbowl loss…. and to think that we came back 10-6 last year and now are really really young with a whole new cast and the best record in the nfl this year….. and we’re only gonna get better as the years go on from here, and if we had leigh bodden and ty warren in the lineup id think we were a superbowl contender RIGHT NOW.

Brady’s gotta be MVP. he just has to. take away moss, kevin faulk, maroney, fred taylor, limited welker, half a year with no mankins….. worse-ranked d in the league, no 1000 yard reciever or rusher…… and we are 8-2, best record in nfl and score more points than anybody. He better get that mvp award as long as he keeps it up, and coach bill better get COY

Only guys left from 2001 are light, kevin faulk, brady and bellicheck. amazing.

by liam332 on Nov 23, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks SMP

Today’s been a good day to put things in perspective, to know exactly where we stand. This and RH’s article earlier help me to realize “you don’t know what you’ve got ‘til it’s gone”.

I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
Creator of the moniker "DDR©"

by AtomicDawg on Nov 23, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

hey

anyone know if Butler is now out of the doghouse and has a shot at redemption?

With Bodden out for the year i think Butler is our best bet at having a good corner on the other side of the field with mccourty locking up that lcb spot for the next decade

by liam332 on Nov 23, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, he took advantage of his opportunity Sunday

and was well-prepared for it and played well. Belichick won’t hold a grudge, he’ll play the best player available.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 23, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

BB is also quoted as saying Bulter "held his own" in the 2nd half vs Indy

That’s a good 2nd half to hold your own in. Trial by fire in the hottest fire for a DB, that situation was I believe.
I didn’t see Bulter making many plays, and in many ways that’s the best compliment a DB can get. If I don’t see you on the screen, then Manning isn’t throwing it your way and your dude is not open.

by JonnyNYC on Nov 24, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

^ This

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Nov 24, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Terrific perspective SMP

I like to compare Pat Chung to Rodney Harrison, but he’s his own player with his own style and will make his own mark on this team. Good to remember that once in a while about all of these players.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Nov 23, 2010 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Great post man

Yup regardless of how we finish at the end, this surely has been a pretty memorable season with a MVP performance from Brady, a Coach of the Year performance from Belichick and of course plenty of gutsy performances from our rookie defense…..and there are still 6 more games to go!

by CerebralAce on Nov 23, 2010 8:59 PM EST reply actions  

Mosi's endzone

Good times, good times…

Reality is a matter of opinion.

by MaPatsFan on Nov 23, 2010 9:12 PM EST reply actions  

It's funny.

When I was 4, I watched Bledsoe in the Superbowl against Favre, and was already a Patriots fan. Then, at 9 in 2001, I was an even bigger fan, (figuratively and literally) and was beyond ecstatic that the team that failed me in the mid 90’s had won the Superbowl. Then time went by, and I noticed more and more success as the young, brash players that won that first Superbowl got older. All of them of course, culminating in what should have been the Greatest Season of All Time. Now, we’re almost ten years removed from that first Superbowl, and I have that same feeling as I did back then. A team with a good mixture of young and experienced, reckless and heart-stopping at times, taking it game by game in what looks like it’ll wind up being a tremendous season. And next year, with those six early draft picks, the rookies and second year guys we have now will take their first step into becoming the veterans that’ll mirror the old guard. I grew up through the dynasty, and (dare I count our chickens) I’ll continue to grow through dynasty 2.0 Perhaps years from now, I’ll be able to tell my kids “That’s right, I saw the legendary Tom Brady win all of those Superbowls. All six of them!” :)

by BigRussNovak on Nov 23, 2010 9:53 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

I was 9 for that SB against Favre

And I too was a Pats fan for awhile before that. I still remember how when I was young I always thought the Pats would win every game and was always heartbroken when they lost. Ha ha and that’s before they were good.

by UtopianAverage on Nov 24, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I was.....older

and not necessarily wiser.

At least that game wasn’t as bad as ’86. That one hurt, a lot.

by JonnyNYC on Nov 24, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha I was about the same

I swear I was the only kid at that Super Bowl party rooting for the Pats to beat the Favre. Good times though.

Deep in enemy territory

by JeffyB on Nov 24, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

What a great post

Very well done. It’s so true. It’s great to see a very good, maybe great team form right before our eyes and win while doing it. It’s also so refreshing to see a new generation of playmakers bonding as a team.

This was a great read.

by bdgsmith on Nov 23, 2010 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

to continue on the rings point

Tom Brady is the only player from all 3 Super Bowl teams that is playing

by pats4life on Nov 24, 2010 2:52 AM EST reply actions  

Matt Light

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by NinjaZX6R on Nov 24, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And Stephen Neal was on the teams (although he didn't play in 2001 or 2003).

Kevin Faulk was on all three Superbowl-winning teams, but isn’t currently playing (although he’s still in the organisation and is in at the Razor as a team member).

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Nov 24, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The chairs and couches in my house are wearing out on the edges again

Looks like we’ll have to get new ones according to my wife. (she’s kinda glad too)
Great perspective SMP… it does bring back memories of how this has all played out before and so very alike, but not.
I remember almost having a heart attack during the snow bowl game..I swear, and now its like I have one every game :)
Also kudos to Comedic Sans for always being a calming voice when things look a little up and down. This place is sort of like a soothing shot of zambucca (sp)

Just happy bein' on the green side of the grass

by gandalf3rings on Nov 24, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Back in my day "Hugh Millen" was a reason to be excited and hoepfully

Ditto Hart Lee Dykes, Eugene Chung (we know have the karmetic return of this pick via Patrick), Greg McMurty, etc., etc.

player acquisition has been….slightly…better in BB’s era

by JonnyNYC on Nov 24, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

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