Special Changes: LS Ingram Out, Katula and Kicker Graham In
by Greg Knopping on Nov 9, 2010 5:26 PM EST
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PrintThe Patriots have made some special teams changes today.
First, with starting kicker Stephen Gostkowski banged up, the team has brought in 32-year-old kicker Shayne Graham, according to Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. Graham will kick this week for the Patriots, and possibly beyond, as Gostkowski continues to recover from injury. Graham kicked in one game for the Giants this year after losing a training camp battle with Billy Cundiff in Baltimore. Prior to this year, Graham kicked seven years for the Bengals, where he established himself as one of the NFL's most accurate kickers, connecting on 85.2% of his kicks. Graham has a career long of 53, which he established last season. Not bad for a short-term replacement.
On the other hand, the Patriots have made a move that looks like it will be more long-term. After struggling with his snaps throughout most of the season, second year long snapper Jake Ingram has reportedly been released, with free agent Matt Katula signing a two year deal with the team. Katula, a Wisconsin product, spent the first five years of his career with the Baltimore Ravens before being released in August.
The Patriots will also have to make another roster move to create space for Graham.
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hmm
didn’t one of Jake’s snaps resulted in a block/shank….cause i know he had a bad snap that resulted in mesko picking the ball from the ground.
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i think it was the partially blocked one
by Greg Knopping on Nov 9, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
yeah....after 8 games...time for Ingram to work @ the citgo for a while
jeezzz
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hmm
CAPS LOCK GUS JOHNSON OBSIMH should be happy about the new long snapper
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If you know your Long Snapper's name, he's doing it wrong
So maybe he’ll never notice…
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 9, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
No, I'll notice
because he’s a Wisconsin product.
Now we just need to sign Lee Evans…
Beat Northwestern, Michigan, and Indiana, THEN I'll talk Wisconsin in the BCS. But not until that happens.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 10, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Wow....
That didn’t take very long….Tough break for Ingram, but he had the spotlight on him for a bit…and that’s not a good thing.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
ingram had a solid rookie year
as a rookie he went unnoticed never a mention of his name as it should be. then this year he has had multiple bad snaps. almost double digit. ridiculous. weird he got a case of the yips hope he can straighten that out.
I wonder what impact the bad snaps had on Mesko
Mesko deserves a LOT of credit for saving 3, maybe 4 turnovers – some of Ingram’s snaps were downright ugly. But I also wonder the impact that Ingram’s play had on Mesko’s punting. I think it’s possible that Mesko never really felt comfortable back there, even on the occasions that he did receive good snaps. It will be interesting to see if his numbers go up after this, assuming the new guy (Katula? Kahlua?) settles in okay.
Some of his short kicks were off bad snaps...
It’s all about rhythm, and having a short-hop snap bounce at you automatically puts you off your timing. He’s 6’4", just bending over to snag it at his knees means he can’t bob up and punt it as quickly. He’s done remarkably well in the circumstances.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I mean, I liked Ingram, for whatever reason it seemed like a 'savvy BB type pick'
but..its….a….long snapper. I mean talk about a replaceable part, sorry Jake.
what???????
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if i had powers...i would def front page this
how does a kicker have a thigh injury….wth
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He got nailed on a kickoff?
Beat Northwestern, Michigan, and Indiana, THEN I'll talk Wisconsin in the BCS. But not until that happens.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 10, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
i put it on the fanshot area....hopefully marima or hill or greg or smp can front page it
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oh...i will delete mine then
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staff...can you front page this
http://www.patspulpit.com/2010/11/10/1805693/gostkowski-placed-on-injured-reserve
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by Marisa Ingemi on Nov 10, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
very true...no more touchbacks.....i
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and i've seen shayne play
sucks in clutch
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Al Harris to Miami...
Pats sign some scrub CB to the practice squad. If you’re gonna do that why not just sign Al Harris? There’s no need at that position? Ha!
True, he may not have anything left, but do we want to find that out while he’s on Miami? Sometimes I just don’t understand this front office or coach. Grrr.
he is 35 years old recovering from a knee injury..
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So what.
I suppose you said that about Harrison.
We are very thin at CB. Ink a one year deal. The man deserves a try. Miami is giving it a go. Better hope he doesn’t pick Brady off in Dec.
He wanted $8M a season.
And he’s coming off a knee injury. If the Pats were worried about CB depth, they wouldn’t have cut Wheatley, who was significantly cheaper.
Al Harris would likely have been the 2010 version of Shawn Springs.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
OK, why does the front office have to go after every single "Big Name" out there?
The CB position is pretty much stacked as it is, and it is fairly young. Why stick a guy in there who is 35 and is pretty much done? I don’t understand.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
i rather get jasson allen on a 1 year deal than a CB that was let go by the packers
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he just got cut even though he had 4 ints this season.
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He just got signed by Miami...
He says he’s ready to go, and I assume Miami looked at him and agrees.
Now he’ll be playing against us. I sure hope he sucks out there.
Plus, when you’re that weak in an area, like the Pats, you might want to roll the dice.
And plus...
he was on waivers….and we’re at the top of the league in terms of records, and that’s how waivers are determined, so we didn’t have a shot at him regardless.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
Ok...
then that should have been your first reply. And it has nothing to do with Harris being a cripple.
That was my mistake
but the point still stands…he’s hurt. You can’t just shy away from that fact.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
the packers have had a lot of injures on their defense...they would put him on the roster from the PuP
if they thought he could provide some depth or even play as a starter….but they didn’t .
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Ok guys...
I sure hope I’m wrong about this… Both on Harris’ ability to bounce back (a la Welker) and on the Pat’s thin CB position. We’ll surely find out as the season progresses.
Harris's ACL
was almost totally destroyed last year. With Charles Woodson and Tramon Williams playing at such high levels, it was unlikely that Al Harris would make it back past the #3 CB.
Al Harris would be a great safety, but he’s best in man coverage as a CB.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 10, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
And the Pats aren't playing much man at the moment...
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
he passed waivers. :)
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No team would want to pick him up for his previous contract...
He was on $8M for the remainder of his contract with a gammy leg.
If he went through waivers he was a free agent, and they could negotiate a contract between them. I’d imagine it’s got a bunch of incentives about playing time given his injury status.
That ‘Phins secondary is pretty young and I can’t think of any vets they have for leadership purposes. If the Pats hadn’t had Leigh Bodden on the roster, they might well have brought him in as an Alge Crumpler-type player/coach role. But they do have Bodden (and Meriweather and James Sanders, both of whom have played a bit of CB), so they probably don’t need that kind of guy.
The Pats are also probably a bit wary after the $7M Shawn Springs experiment.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I wouldn't want harris anyways.
he’s a good guy, but i don’t think we need him.
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He's a good man-coverage CB
But the Pats aren’t playing a lot of man. So I’m not sure he’d even get on the field…
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Umm...no I'm not joking
Arrington, McCourty, Whilhite, Butler….all young guys who are still finding their way, you telling me you want to forgo all that and put a guy who is 35 years old out there wobbling with one knee? I sure don’t.
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
He just got signed by an NFL team..
It’s Al Harris too. Yes, that means something. A sure thing, nope, I said that initially.
Again, you’re joking… Whilhite and Butler suck. Period. I like Arrington a lot, but I’m still waiting for the meltdown. Oh, and what if McCoutry gets injured? Hmmm?
Sign Jason Allen
pretty sure Wheatley was suppose to go to the PS before the jags got him on waivers.
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yeah that was a stupid move
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What if.....
That’s like asking what if it rains tomorrow? So you should sign everybody off the face of the earth just for the sake of doing it? Again, why?
I don't think so. Homey don't play dat.
And Shawn Springs was Shawn Springs...
consecutive years of fragile, under-athletic expensive CBs? Eh.
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by Comedic.Sans on Nov 10, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
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