Sign.Vince.Wilfork!!!
by MaPatsFan on Feb 13, 2010 4:59 PM EST
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PrintUnlike some previous Patriots players (Richard Seymour, Deion Branch), Vince Wilfork chose to attend mandatory mini and training camps. In fact, he went so far as to try to work an extension with his employer before the season started. He's kept the behind-the-scenes stuff between the organization while honestly and truthfully answering the media's questions. Vince doesn't want Albert money and he's said so himself. About the only "shot across the bow" you could accuse him of was skipping OTA's before the season started. Yawn...
Vince had, what some might call, a terrific year. Switching from a 3-4 alignment to a 4-3 for a significant part of the season was no easy task, but Wilfork did it and proved his worth. In fact, they moved him all around the defensive line at times, showing his worth to those who cared to look.
Why they haven't slapped the franchise tag on Vince yet is beyond me. Do it and get it over with or negotiate in good faith. Yeah, there's a lot of moving parts these days with the possibility of an uncapped year and a lockout in 2011, but pull on up to the table and act like you respect the guy, Kraft, Inc. There's not many 3-4 nose tackles of Wilfork's caliber, especially ones that can swallow up 2 offensive linemen (don't let him fool you - he's pretty quick for a fat guy, too).
It's somewhat aggravating for this fan to see Wilfork treated this poorly. Vince did everything right. I guess the only way to get what you deserve in this organization is to be a jerk. I'd hate to see that happen.
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Wilfork definitely LOOKS like he swallowed up two guys!
Just kidding. I think it’s absurd he hasn’t been re-signed. The only possible thing that I can think of is a potential block buster trade with KC or Denver.
Would you be up for trading your...
…1st and first 2nd round pick for Wilfork?
1st and second 2nd round pick?
This might be a win/win for both of us. Of course I’d love to keep Wilfork, but getting both picks is very intriguing.
If Terrence Cody from Alabama manages to lose some weight and does well at the combine, he could be a very good pick early in the 2nd round. His stock has been dropping due to his appearance, but he still had a strong performance on the field. If he trims down 30-40 lbs, he’d be a very good replacement. If he doesn’t, then we skip him.
This is the deepest DT draft in a LONG time. Maybe we shift Pryor to DE. Maybe Brace emerges. If Suh (not happening) or McCoy (possible) drop to #5 we can take them there. If not, we can either trade down to someone who wants Bradford or Clausen and grab an OT or Brandon Graham, or pick up Joe Haden or McClain at #5. We can use one of our 2nd rounders, our our 2nd first rounder, on the top DT available if we go elsewhere @ #5.
If we make this trade, we lose a valuable locker room leader, but we can fix up almost ALL of our issues.
by Richard Hill on Feb 14, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
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I was wondering when it would be posted...
…much earlier than I expected!
by Richard Hill on Feb 14, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
We can only hope and pray
that when he runs in the Combine, he elects to keep his shirt ON.
Keep the faith!
is He wearing a sports bra???
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i'm impressed w. him though
the kid came to Alabama weighing 400+lbs. And lost some weight to join the football team.
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A 1st and a 2nd is a little to steep for even Wilfork
He isnt a QB and he isnt young. I could see a team trading a 1st and a 3rd or a 1st and a 4th at worst. If he was a DE or QB then maybe someone would give you more. A 1st and a 3rd is still very good for Wilfork.
Too much
I could see swapping first rounders and a second, but pretty unlikely. He’d help us out a lot, and I’d like to see something happen. It’ll be interesting to see the buzz leading up to the draft.
Isn't the whole point to acquire the best players at their positions
You don’t get the opportunity very often to have the absolute best. Why waste it?
No reason
EVERYBODY knows the Patriots groom talent and then toss it away when it blossoms!
No, the Patriots don’t do that, and they (hopefully) won’t do that with VW. He IS too good to just let go like this.
No blockbuster trades to a division rival are forthcoming. The Patriots are way too smart for that.
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 15, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
If they don't resign him, the Patriots will be in trouble
up front defensively.
That being said, wasn’t Ron Brace supposed to come for Vince at DT sometime? I haven’t seen him since the Patriots drafted him out of BC…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Feb 13, 2010 7:41 PM EST reply actions
Ugh. I can totally see them not signing him.
Just because that’s the patriot thing to do. Ignore the high-priced FA no matter how integral to the system.
USG
Usually because they're sure they can get replacements, though...
and to be fair, most of the time, they do just that. With Wilfork, though, it’s been made that much harder – a lot of teams have converted to a 3-4 in recent years, and a lot of them have higher draft picks than the Pats. Any starting-calibre Nose Tackles in the draft are going to be taken, and the market in free agency for them is bound to increase, too. (Hopefully?) the Pats will realise this, see how hard it is to get a replacement, and resign Wilfork. Very, very good 3-4 Nose Tackles don’t just come with the rain, unlike other positions where the Pats are far happier to let players leave from.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Feb 13, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
They could still be actively negotiating...
that was my gut feeling when they didn’t slap the tag on him right away.
Keep the faith!
They have until the 25th
And they know if they slap the tag on him, they can forget about him ever signing a long-term deal.
My guess is that if they do tag Wilfork, it’ll be at the last minute. If they’re smart, they’ll do everything they can to sign him to a long-term contract in the next ten days.
Contract
Hopefully no tag means it is being negotiated.
Did the Pats not pay Seymour?
Was the first championship defense started with the signing of Washington?
BB knows he needs to stop the run.
Pats paid Seymour twice
Big rookie contract and big second contract. No hometown discounts. Seymour wasn’t coming back unless he was to be paid full price for a third time and that wasn’t going to happen.
Keep the faith!
OMG
There’s no replacing Wilfork with a rookie as someone suggested above. That’s absurd. Look, we just got rid of perennial Pro-Bowler Seymour, now some people want to get rid of Wilfork? Are you kidding? The Pat’s line flat out sucks without Vince in there. Want a wild prediction? No Wilfork = 8-8 season. Simple math. This team has too many holes to fill already.
No one want sto get rid of Wilfork...
…I’m just looking at the possibilities if we DON’T sign him.
by Richard Hill on Feb 15, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
If they tag him....and do not sign him to a long term deal...then it has to be Mt. Cody
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Mr. Consistency
Wilfork is one of the few guys on defense that has played with any kind of consistency. He is immovable and a strong force up the middle. We need him and we must sign him to keep our defense strong.
by BostonFaninNewMexico on Feb 17, 2010 6:03 AM EST reply actions
Too Steep of a price
In this years draft, there are some “sleeper” DT’s, whereas they can draft like NT Ross and still get value at the 4th or 5th round. The possibility of getting Seymour is more intriging tho, even if for a couple of years. There are some draftmockers having Dorsey traded possibly to the Saints for their #1 and #2 picks, and with his salary, along with Waters (may also be traded) would more than make-up the cost. This Chief team has alot of upgrading to do, and it seems to make sense somewhat. Also Dorsey was drafted for a 4-3 defense not a 3-4.
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