State of the New England Patriots Nation: Running Backs
Fred Taylor turned 34 on January 27th. Happy birthday to the oldest back in the league!
Kevin Faulk will turn 34 on June 5th- happy early birthday to the second oldest back in the league!
Sammy Morris will become a young 33 on March 23rd- good enough for third oldest back in the league!
Don't like that trend? Neither to do I.
Laurence Maroney is just 25 years old with 1 year left on his contract. BenJarvus Green-Ellis will be 25 as well at the season's start. How does our running back committee look this off-season? What do I think will happen?
Read to find out!
1. Laurence Maroney 5-11, 220 lbs. 25 years of age, 4 year veteran.
Stats:194 attempts for 757 yards- a 3.9 average. 9 TDs, 4 fumbles, 14 receptions for 99 yards.
How he did: I'm one of the people who believe that Maroney had a fumble issue that needs to be looked at this off-season. Looking apart from his fumbles, he ran much harder this year than he had his entire career (which may have led to the fumbles). He was hitting gaps with drive and trucking over some defensive players. However, he had only 1 real "break-away" play the entire season. He seemed to have the ball taken out of his hands every time he appeared to be getting into a groove. I still have hope for Maroney- next year (we always say this about Maroney) will be the most important season of his career.
Where he did well:
- He set a personal record for rushing TDs with 9.
- He seemed to be running with more purpose than ever before (less dancing)
- He caught the ball well when given the opportunity- I'd like to see him have a much larger role in the passing game next season. He caught 14 out of the 15 balls thrown in his direction.
- He ran his best going off-tackle (going to the outside), mainly going behind Vollmer. He scored 5 of his 9 TDs going to the outside and had 400 of his yards going to the outside. He forced 13 of his 22 missed tackles going outside. (Outside is when he goes to the outside of his tackles, as opposed to between the tackle and guard or the guard and center). Over half of his overall production came from his going outside.
Where he can improve:
- Averaged 2.4 yards after contact. The best backs in the league averaged around 3.0 YAC. That means Maroney isn't breaking tackles like the best and isn't fighting for yardage like the best.
- Fumbles. He had 4, which puts him top 10 for fumbling running backs. He needs to get a better hold on the ball when running in piles.
- Running up the middle, to the right (where Neal was the blocker), Maroney had all of his fumbles. He's not a strong up-the-gut runner. (However, I'm not sure whether to attribute that to Maroney or Neal- Maroney had no fumbles to the left (behind Mankins))
- Get more carries. This lies upon the coaches, but partly upon Maroney for not impressing the coaches enough to warrant more carries. He heats up when he touches the ball more, which isn't happening in this RBC.
What does this mean?: He's never going to be a feature back. He can, and should, be our #1 back for our committee. If we run the ball 25-30 times a game, Maroney should see the ball at least 15-20 times. He should be looked at in the passing game at least 3-4 times a game. You know how the Colts use Addai as a dump pass in the middle? Have Maroney do that. You know how we used Sammy Morris on the sidelines? Maroney. He has so much potential that we need to utilize it more. That said, his best game is between the 20s. We still need a power back who can run through the middle and get that first down on 3rd and short and who can make opposing defenses pay.
2. Kevin Faulk 5-8, 202 lbs. 33 years of age, 11 year veteran.
Stats: 62 attempts for 335 yards (5.4 yards/carry) and 2 TDs. 37 receptions for 301 yards and a TD. 0 Fumbles.
How he did: Faulk was always Mr. Reliable. Did everything asked of him and exceeded expectations again. He was actually a strong up the middle runner, averaging over 5.0 yards/carry between ALL linemen. He didn't do well going to the outside.
Where he did well:
- He ran strong up the middle, not fumbling, and gaining yardage. Most of his yards weren't in short, obvious running situations, but he still made the most out of his opportunity (hey coaches, see that? Faulk ran well when the defense wasn't expecting it. See what mixing up the playcalling does?)
- Caught 77% of the passes in his direction.
- Give him the ball 7 times a game- 4 rushing, 3 receiving, and he'd be an almost guaranteed LOCK to gain 60 yards. That's quality production.
- He's Kevin Faulk. He was a sideline leader who stepped up and asked players for their best.
Where he can improve:
- I don't see any glaring places. He's a huge team player who I hope we bring back for as long as he plays.
- Perhaps get younger?
What does this mean?: He's getting long in tooth, but that doesn't really show up on his on-field production. He won't be able to keep this up forever and I think it's time we start grooming a Faulk 2.0. Maroney can be an experiment next year. Hopefully Faulk will be back for another season and we can maximize his skill set for another year.
3. Fred Taylor 6-1, 228 lbs. 34 years of age, 12 year veteran.
Stats: 63 carries, 269 yards, 4 TDs.
How he did: He got injured, but when he had the ball he was dominant. Averages yards/carry, average yards after contact. He averaged around 4.5 yards/carry running everywhere on the line. However, he seems to have lost his big play ability.
Where he did well:
- Brought veteran leadership to the team. He has brought in to help mentor Maroney and also help the team. He's done both. I don't think it's a coincidence that Maroney started to run hard with Taylor's arrival.
- Whenever he touched the ball, he was good for 4 or so yards.
- He added solid depth to the running committee, while healthy.
Where he can improve:
- Not get injured.
- I don't think he can improve this, but he needs to help with big play production. Not one play over 20 yards this season.
What does this mean?: I think this is a classic case of "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" (even though Mythbusters disproved this!). What we have when we look at Taylor's body of work is what we're going to get. We have a savvy veteran with a now-average skill set. He was consistent which is more than we can say for Sammy Morris.
4. Sammy Morris 6-0, 220 lbs. 32 years of age, 10 year veteran.
Stats: 73 carries, 319 yards, 2 TDs. 19 receptions, 180 yards.
How he did: He had 3 runs of around 20+. If you eliminate them, he went for 74 carries and about 230 yards. That's not impressive. He stepped up in the passing game and performed well there. However, he wasn't so extraordinary that he became a necessity. Once again, he was injured. He has yet to finish a full season as a running back. At his age, that's not a good sign.
Where he did well:
- He was second to Faulk in terms of receiving backs- smaller completion percentage than Maroney, but higher Y/C.
- He had just as many big plays this season as Maroney, but with fewer carries.
- Was our best Yards after Contact runner. He was 3.5 yards after contact, in comparison to Maroney's 2.4 yards after contact. That shows Morris' big play production. I wouldn't hold this stat to much weight, though, since a lot of his YAC was from his one big run.
Where he can improve:
- Stay healthy. He hasn't completed a full season. Ever.
- He needs to be more consistent. At least Maroney was good for a 4ish average. Morris was all over the board.
What does this mean?: I can see us only bringing Morris back if we have no other options. He's a health liability with very average skills. I'd much rather see a young player put up average numbers than an old one- at least the young one has potential to blossom.
5. BenJarvus Green-Ellis 5-11, 215 lbs. 24 years of age, 2 year veteran.
Stats: 26 carries for 114 yards.
How he did: He did not dazzle us with his opportunities. He dominated the Tennessee game, but my grandma could have gone for 2 Touchdowns in that game. Other than that, he was mediocre. He was the best run blocker on the team, and I expect him to put on weight and take over that role next year. Will he be successful? Who knows.
Where he did well:
- He killed Tennessee with big runs and big plays. Very similar to his 2008 couple of weeks, he played extremely well, showing us his potential.
- He was usually brought in on clock-killing duty. He did a good job of not coughing up the ball.
- He was our best run blocker.
Where he can improve:
- I would say N/A since he hasn't really been given the opportunities. When Morris and Taylor were injured, we resorted to Faulk as the #2, instead of BJGE, perhaps he needs to step up and show the coaching staff what he can do to help the run game, instead of "just" blocking.
What does this mean?: BJGE should be brought back for another year. I wouldn't be surprised if he took Morris' spot in the committee rotation. He'll be blocking much more frequently next year and, if he can add the weight, he might allow us to have a real FB. If the weight works, and he can still run hard, perhaps we have our short yardage back already on our roster?
What does this mean for the off season?
With Maroney, Taylor, Faulk (hopefully) and BJGE, I believe that we have another above average committee. I'd like to see Maroney as the 1st and 2nd down back, Taylor as the #2, Faulk as the receiving and 3rd and long back and BJGE as the blocker and short yardage back. I know a lot of people have been asking for us to pick up an RB in the draft. I have been one of them. I still think it's a good idea to draft a back in the 2nd round.
However, after this analysis, I have another idea- do you think we should hold off on drafting an RB for another year? We have two picks, with one of them being Oakland's which is almost sure to be a top 10 pick. We have the possibility of maybe taking Mark Ingram in next year's draft. I know the RB draft this year is much deeper than next, but I think we have more pressing needs than at RB. Everyone knows that we need a DE and an OLB in the draft. We also need a new OT as Matt Light grows older. The 4th pick is up the air as a CB (fingers crossed), WR, RB, TE or even another LB. We could be set next season with our current committee and improve on other positions that are more important to the Patriots team as a whole (we are a passing team, RBs aren't as important).
Who knows what this means. We could still pick up an RB in the 2nd round, or even the middle rounds. I just wouldn't count on it. Belichick has tended to shy away from RBs in the draft. He knows that there are Elite RBs (Chris Johnson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Steven Jackson, etc) and they are in a league of their own. He also knows that the gap between average RB and good RB is very little. He'd rather utilize his draft picks on players where the gap between average and good is of much greater importance.
I say that we'll be fine if we enter next season with this committee. We could be better, but we'll be fine. I just think that getting better in other positions is more important right now than getting better at running back.
Read more: Quarterback Situation and Wide Receiver Situation
Statistics courtesy of Pro Football Focus and ESPN.com.
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I think Morris' time here is done.
I wouldn’t mind drafting a new RB, but if we were to add a new one I’d prefer to save the draft picks for other positions and pick up an RB in FA.
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i dont mind if they draft Hardesty in the 5-6th rd of the draft
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I'm pretty sure Hardesty will be gone by the 4th.
Which is where we can get him, if we wish.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions
He's a JAG
as far as I’m concerned, and not a player I really care if they keep or not. Replaceable.
Keep the faith!
jag?
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i'm still pissed @ that block he gave to pollard in 08
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I am glad that you addressed everything on maroney, and not just the fumbles(like positive things).
Muchos Gracias.
I think Maroney can still have a future with us...
…and that he has the talent to do well. I just think that his fumbles need to be looked at.
by Richard Hill on Feb 18, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Well like I said before
running tougher can probably have to do with it. They started after the tennessee game where he had a great game(well it really started during the colts game). 3 of them came from the goal line, so that may lead me to believe that when he tries to run tougher, loosing the ball is more likely when he’s in a pile, or when 3-4 tackles are trying to strip the ball and tackle him at once.
by patriotguy2 on Feb 18, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Things that I noticed of BJGE
He’s tougher than Maroney, but he’s not too quick. He can do spin moves well. Also he had “hitting the hole” troubles last year(or at least the few that I saw him run in) like maroney did. I think if he put on a few pounds, he’d be an awesome full back!
BJGE struggled in the passing game. Still not sold on Maroney.
I only have anecdotal examples, but I remember him dropping a few easy screens, and a SURE touchdown.
As for Maroney….I just don’t think he brings the consistency that you need from a #1 back. I know he needs more carries, but how can you give him those carries when he’s inexplicably contracted fumblitis? And he’s also struggled with injury. AND it took him and AWFULLY long time to learn to hit the hole. With Maroney, when one thing is fine, three other things are wrong. He’s like a carpenter that shows up to work one day with the toolbelt and the timber, but no tools. The next day, he’s got the tools and the timber, but no nails. You can talk all day about this alleged untapped potential, but at some point you’ve got to move on….
Don't make me explain why he doesn't have fumbleitis. I already addressed that.
Trust me. You are over reacting with the fumbles. That’s all you need to know.
And to address the other stuff you said, Maroney done well, while sharing carries with Dillon, in 06.
In 07 he was even better.
In 08, he probably would’ve been better than 07, but he had the season ending injury.
And in 09, he was hitting the hole with more authority, and just not carry on in this post, I’ll just say that The Hill basically narrowed Maroney contributions this season down accurately..
He was getting better. And his progress doesn’t help when he gets an average of 12.125 carries a game.
And trust me, you are overreacting extremely, if you think Maroney has fumbilitis. If you really want me to explain: then here are two posts from “Unlikely desires for the pats offseason and draft”:
rst of all….
I think we have not seen Vanderjagt because he can’t kick under pressure.
Second of all, I’m not really over looking. I just think that when people complain about his fumbling, HE HARDLY DOES IT! This was his FIRST season when he fumbled more than once, and people are going BALLISTIC! I mean, really? Are they trying to pick up anything they can on Maroney? Dropping the rock is bad, but IT HAPPENS! Of course we don’t want it to happen, but it does! And at least he didn’t fumble 3+ times every season. He doesn’t fumble often! Not to mention, you know how often a RB fumbles when they are in a pile of defenders? Like goal line situations where you run into the guys, and fight for the yards. You’re doing that WHILE protecting the ball from, say, 4 people. That’s a tough thing to do.
Plus, those two fumbles I mentioned, why not mention those? One dropped strait down on the goal line, and the other Maroney grabbed it right back.
I just say, cut the guy a break. Look at his overall performance, and stop trying to narrow in on his ailments of the season(even when those ailments happens to pretty much all players in his position). It’s kinda similar to Matt Lights situation, where everyone narrows in on his "failures" when he’s been overall pretty solid, even if he has trouble with fast guys, he can hold his ground.
and the second one…….
A look at his fumbles this season
4 fumbles. 3 at goal line. 1 was recovered right away by maroney, and another should’ve been a TD.
4 fumbles. An average amount of fumbles any RB is bound to get at least one time in their season. Also pretty much an average amount for RBs.
Maroney’s 850 yards. 10-15 carries. pretty good performance since the offense doesn’t even rely on him all the time. What if he got around 20 carries a game? I just did the math and Maroney gets 12.125 carries a game. If he didn’t fumble? I don’t know if that would make that much a difference. Yes Belichek pulled him out that one game, but that’s it. Maybe he wanted Maroney to be used more in the playoffs, but it turns out the offensive plan did not include him. Give him more runs. Let him play as a #1 Back(of course we know he fits better in a 2 back system, but let him be the #1). There were games where he was doing well, and they pull him out. Let him run the damn ball, and mix it up a bit.
I told you why I think fumbling rates are skewed. That’s like QB rates. It’s pretty much meaningless. It doesn’t always tell you who is the better QB or not, there’s a bunch of factors put into it.
There you go. Have fun reading them.
by patriotguy2 on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
but i will say he needs to be a bit more consistent.
its just that when he’s doing well, they pull him out.
by patriotguy2 on Feb 19, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Your argument is basically "Give the guy a break."
My equally nuanced counter-argument is “No.”
I agree that he HAD been VERY good at holding onto the ball throughout his career. In fact, up until exactly half-way through this season, he almost NEVER fumbled. It was great.
But in the last 7 games (he didn’t play the last game), he lost 4 fumbles. That is a problem.
The problem with your argument is that you’re trying to assuage the fumblitis concerns using evidence from 2006-2008. You can’t do that! Running backs sometimes inexplicably develop fumbling problems. It’s not a coincidence that the nickname for frequent fumbles sounds like a disease, because it’s much like contracting one – one week you don’t have it, and then….you do. I don’t pretend to know the root causes of the “condition,” if you want to call it that, but to argue that 4 lost fumbles over 7 games isn’t a problem because he never fumbled BEFORE is hardly a convincing argument.
that was in the first post, which was to explain that it's not like he fumbles over 3 times a season.
and that whole post was on my first post in there. What about the second post:
A look at his fumbles this season
4 fumbles. 3 at goal line. 1 was recovered right away by maroney, and another should’ve been a TD.
4 fumbles. An average amount of fumbles any RB is bound to get at least one time in their season. Also pretty much an average amount for RBs.
Maroney’s 850 yards. 10-15 carries. pretty good performance since the offense doesn’t even rely on him all the time. What if he got around 20 carries a game? I just did the math and Maroney gets 12.125 carries a game. If he didn’t fumble? I don’t know if that would make that much a difference. Yes Belichek pulled him out that one game, but that’s it. Maybe he wanted Maroney to be used more in the playoffs, but it turns out the offensive plan did not include him. Give him more runs. Let him play as a #1 Back(of course we know he fits better in a 2 back system, but let him be the #1). There were games where he was doing well, and they pull him out. Let him run the damn ball, and mix it up a bit.
(you can excuse this one if you want) I told you why I think fumbling rates are skewed. That’s like QB rates. It’s pretty much meaningless. It doesn’t always tell you who is the better QB or not, there’s a bunch of factors put into it.
I will agree that he needs to protect the ball more know, because he’s running with more of a bruising style than he did before.
RBs get fumbles all the time, and you magically say that someone has fumblitis the one season he has over 2 fumbles. people like AP have fumblitis, or even Matt Forte(i think). They have fumblitis because they fumble o a regular basis. This is Maroney’s first year with more than 1 fumble, and you are already convinced he has fumblitis.
But you don’t think that that is not an overreaction? Not even in the slightest?
by patriotguy2 on Feb 19, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Here's an easy way to figure out what's happening:
Fact: Maroney changed his style of running this year from a shifty back to an attempting semi-power back.
Fact: Maroney started to fumble as soon as it appeared he was no longer dancing in the backfield.
Reasoning? Maroney started to fumble because he started to run harder. Do you want the shifty back who doesn’t fumble, or the pounding back who drops the rock?
I don’t think Maroney is built to be a pounding back. I’d rather him go back to being a shifty back IN THE RIGHT SCENARIOS. As the stats show, he doesn’t run well up the middle. He runs extremely well to the outside.
Solution? Use Maroney on the outside. He will fumble less, he will still gain yards and he will demonstrate his real skill.
Ta-freakin’-dah.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well
I’ve seen him run toward the middle, but bounces outside afterwards.
Like I said before, 3 of those fumbles were on the goal line. That’s when he’s using his toughness, against 3-4 guys, while those guys are trying to strip the ball while tackling you. It’s not so much as going up the middle is the problem(although yes he has more success on the outside) but he needs to protect it from those 3-4 guys, which can be a tough thing to do. Especially if you’re trying to convert to the tough running style(which I thought he was better at).
by patriotguy2 on Feb 19, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
This, and...
I find it disconcerting that he went from NEVER fumbling to losing 4 in 7 games.
If anything, the previous lack of fumbles should make the sudden increase even MORE alarming. Imagine in Tom Brady suddely threw four times as many INTs as he had in his entire career (I know, not a fair comparison, but just go with me). Would you be more or less concerned? Would you say “Well, he’s never had that problem before, so I don’t think it’s a big deal,” or “Wow, something has gone wrong with him.”
I tend not to be an alarmist, but 4 fumbles lost in 7 games, after losing only one fumble in three years, is cause for concern.
Also...
I read your re-posted arguments and simply found them unpersuasive. No need to re-post them AGAIN. It isn’t impossible for someone to disagree with what you might believe is a rational opinion; regardless of your fervor, an opinion it remains.
Intended for PatriotGuy2, not The Hill.
My eyes are not very good at discerning this tiered comment structure. I need Lasix.
I know
but you we can’t say he has fumbilitis(which mean he fumbles on a regular basis, which is untrue. yet) because we won’t know until next season. If he gets 2-3+ fumbles the next season, THEN you say he has fumblitis. Until then, you can just say that he had 4 fumbles in 7 games(which is a bit bizarre, but that does not mean he has fumbilitis).
Yeah...
…BJGE dropped 3 of the 5 passes thrown in his direction this year. Last year he dropped 2 out of the 6. I don’t think Law Firm will be a part of our passing offense.
Maroney on the other hand…definitely should.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
BJGE just doesn't seem to fit in...
He’s a serviceable fullback, but still mediocre at best. He’s not a particularly great runner, though there have been a couple flashes. He certainly can’t catch the ball.
For me, it is difficult to justify filling another roster spot with someone who doesn’t do any one thing particularly well. Of course, he is still young and could develop into a nice downhill runner, but I’d rather just can him and fill the spot with a true FB.
BJGE is on most of the special teams units
So he’s a contributor there. It’s not glamorous, but it needs to be done.
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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 19, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
KEEP THE COMMITTEE!!!
I truley believe that our running game is under rated>>>
Fred tayor was injured most of the year. Dont know his potential in NE
Maroney was decent but room for improvement.
Faulk. thats all I have to say
BJGE can become a solid running still young
-Ran for 100 yards in a game in 2008 and had a couple other productive lanes when sammy morris and maroney
In the 2011 Draft
7th overall pick(from oakland)- Mark Ingram
I like your thinking.
If we address our more pressing needs this year (OLB, DE, etc), our Raiders pick next year will be more of a luxury and we can take the best player available that fits our team.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
i highly doubt BB will draft a RB w. the 7th pick
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Still...
…wouldn’t it be nice?
If we grab a DE, OLB, OT and CB in this draft, what other position is there (especially if we sign Wilfork long term). If we don’t sign Wilfork, I see us grabbing a DT. If we do, we have no real pressing needs apart from WR and RB (if this draft goes according to plan).
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions
game changing WR?
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I don't see a "must have" WR in next year's draft.
In which case, we’d trade down appropriately. If we take the Raiders’ pick at where it is, I’m sure a game changing back would be a great pick.
(also Montel Harris in the later rounds)
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
I watched a couple games of the guy
and he is awesome. Montel Harris will be a #1 pick in next years draft.
I go to school with Montel.
I think he’ll stay until 2012 and be a 1st round pick.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
really? that's awesome!
convince him to come next year, and try to get the pats to draft him. The guy is talented.
My pick would be to draft.
Either CJ Spiller(Clemson) or Dexter McCluster(Ole Miss) would be who I favor.
Spiller is a great all-around player. Great speed, great hands and a great special teams guy. He was the only player in college football this year to score a TD in every game. He holds the record for most kickoff returns for TDs in his career(7). He has world-class speed and is hell in the open field.
McCluster is a beast out of the backfield. Great power through the line of scrimmage and can break tackles with ease. I don’t think he played special teams, but he is a decent receiver.
If we are going to compete year after year, we need some youth in the RBs. Having the 3 oldest backs in the league is asking for trouble with injuries IMO.
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I feel like both the backs you mentioned...
…are waaay too light. They’ll be damaged easily (especially McCluster, who was shown to get shut down in the Senior Bowl). Spiller is a great overall athlete, and I can see him being a guy like Hester or Cribbs. However, I don’t think that they would be worth a first round pick.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't get to watch the Senior Bowl.
I saw Dexter play 2 or 3 games this past season and he was pretty much unstoppable.
Spiller might have a problem being an every-down back because of his weight, but if he was used in screens or play-action plays I think he would be a good addition to the offense.
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spiller i think has the most potential to be a bust.
He’s fast and quick, but he doesn’t look like the guy who would pick up the intangibles of an offense that easily.
mccluster
chances are he will go late in the draft because of his speed. if thats the case and we can get him late then im open to it. at the very least he would give us a homerun threat in the return game
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 20, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
*size*
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 20, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions
4 backs i like in the draft
dixon, dwyer, gerhart and spiller but id have to lean toward gerhart. give us that power running game we had with dillion. if not then spiller who could also electrify our return game
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by remembering9ergods on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions
don't forget Ryan Mathews.
God Damn don’t forget that guy! The guy is awesome. Read my analysis of him when I watched like, 10 minutes of highlights on the guy:
http://www.patspulpit.com/2010/2/5/1297688/ive-been-looking-for-potential-rbs
I like him a lot more than the other guys, mainly because he is an all-around complete back(in terms of running style).
I want Best
I was hoping he’d stay for another year at Cal so we could draft him next year with the Oakland pick, but with the injury this year he might drop to one of our spots. I’d be very pleased if we scooped him up, I’m pretty high on him.
Another interesting RB to look at
is LeGarrette Blount. He is a 5th rounder at the moment, and he reminds me of a brandon Jacobs with more speed and balance.
Blount's been helping himself a lot.
He was suspended the entire season, except the bowl game, for punching someone from Boise St. In the bowl game, he showed why he was reaaaaally good and he’s just been proving himself since.
by Richard Hill on Feb 19, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Besides that punch(saw it on a highlight.)
he’s seems really good.
by patriotguy2 on Feb 19, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I would keep Faulk and Morris. I would also draft a back in the second round where I believe one of these two backs would still be available…..Jahvid Best or Jonathan Dwyer. Both were very productive in College. In the first round at #22 I would select Sean Witherspoon OLB Mizzou. In the second at #42 either Best or Dwyer. At #48 I take Jerry Hughes DE TCU and a t# 53 I would take Aaron Hernandez TE Florida. With no selections in the 3rd or 5th rounds and only single picks in rounds 4, 6 and 7, the Patriots better not trade down or trade picks for next year. I believe the above selections would serve the Pats well for next season!!!
just to let you know
Witherspoon is a 4-3 OLB. Those would usually switch to MLB in a 3-4. But he is intriguing.
Montario Hardesty
Reading his scouting report, he kinda has a little Kevin Faulk in him, being a pass-catching threat from the backfield. Plus, a lot of praise, virtually no red flags, and his injury problems from earlier in his Tennessee years seem to be a thing of the past.
I’d love the Pats to get Hardesty with their 4th round pick.
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
just Run it baby!
i say.. give this RB group another year to prove themselves.. or perhaps get titanic White from Tenn. (just in case Taylor, Morris goes down again with injuries) There’s a lot of holes to fill this coming draft ( DE,OLB,WR,TE ) just use the picks wisely to fill these needs. and IF the running doesn’t improve this year.. use that Oakland 1st pick in ’11 to get the best back. good luck pats!!

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