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LT in a Patriots Flying Elvis?

After 9 seasons with the team that drafted him, LaDainian Tomlinson was released by the San Diego Chargers.  In all but 2009, he had yardage north of 1,000 and 3 seasons above 1,500 yards.  He's averaged 88.6 yards over his career and has a respectable average of 4.3 yards per carry.  Not too shabby.  But after an incredible 2006, his numbers have steadily declined.

Let's face it, LT acts like a whiny superstar.  How many picture can we conjure up of a helmeted Tomlinson, dark glass and all, "pouting" on the sideline?  Tons, and I mean tons.  But is LT the kind of talent that could give our backfield a kick in the shorts?

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In a word, no.  Let's break it down, shall we?  Laurence Maroney is widely considered to be our under achieving young back, dashed high hopes in tow.  Sammy Morris is a great utility back, but is aging.  Kevin Faulk is, well, Kevin Faulk but like Morris, is aging.  Fred Taylor was injured for most of the season, so it's hard to tell how he will contribute.  Like the previous 2, he is not getting any younger.  And finally, young buck BenJarvus Green-Ellis has done a fine job of filling in when needed, but he's simply not a feature back.

Then the news of LT being released hits the wire.  31'ish isn't old, but it's a matter of mileage, as The Boston Globe's Albert Breer points out:

Now, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald had an interesting blog post on this very topic yesterday, and made a great point: It's not age as much as it miles. He's right, too. The reason, for example, Marcus Allen produced in his mid-30s with the Chiefs was in large part because he averaged less than 8 carries a game in his last four years with the Raiders.

He further discusses another interesting possibility, Darren Sproles:

But since we're here, it might be worth pointing to another Charger running back that could be worth a look. Word is that San Diego, with a slew of restricted free agents to deal with (Shawne Merriman, Vincent Jackson, Marcus McNeill, Malcom Floyd), might decline to tender Darren Sproles, making him unrestricted. The complication with Sproles is that the Chargers franchised him last year at $6.621 million, meaning that to tender him as an RFA, they have to offer him a one-year deal at 110 percent of that figure ($7.283 million).

This is a VERY interesting possibility.  I've always like Sproles, not only because of his fantastic kick return ability but because he drives the Colts absolutely bonkers.  You gotta love any player who gives Colts fans hives.

LT?  We're already old enough in the backfield.  Sproles?  Sounds like a plan.  Finally, Wes Welker wouldn't be the shortest guy on the team.

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If you want Sproules, do you let Kevin Faulk walk?

Sproules is a third-down back, shotgun back, and punt and kick returner. Faulk is a third-down back, shotgun back, and punt and kick returner. Two guys don’t go into one slot, and if they do, you’re underutilising both of them. Faulk a goner?

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 24, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i want sproiles

but man i WANT faulk to retire as a patriot.

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 24, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

He deserves a Bruschi-like sendoff

Getting Hoodie to cry twice in two years? Hah.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 24, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

wait

the Hoodie cries??? when did hell freeze over?

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 24, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It was probably condensation

He’s so cold and the lights at the press conference were so hot…

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 24, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 25, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I like the Wes Welker height argument

Tomlinson is also someone I would have a hard time warming up to as a Patriot… He hates the Patriots, we’ve hated him…

by bbismyhero on Feb 23, 2010 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Sproles is talented

But where would he factor in to our RBC? He isn’t an every down back and we have our 3rd down back in Faulk. I wouldn’t mine seeing him in NE though.

by ATM on Feb 23, 2010 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Faulk won't last forever or even a couple years

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 23, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Faulk, Leon Washington and Josh Cribbs could *all* hit the free agency market...

They can all return punts and kicks, and they’re third-down back and/or shotgun back material. And they’re all significantly faster and younger than Faulk is.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Feb 24, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think

As a PR/image move, signing Tomlinson wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Sometimes image rehabilitation is best achieved by co-opting your harshest critics and getting them to publicly re-evaluate their past statements.

But there are a lot of football reasons why I’d rather not see the Pats sign Tomlinson, most listed in this thread already. He is likely to be overpriced for any team that signs him, but especially so for teams with a high number of personnel rotating in and out of the backfield like ours. And his not making our already old running game any younger is another reason.

by jctsai12 on Feb 23, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

No.

Signing him would go against everything that needs to happen with our Running Back Core- youth, high ceiling, future production.

Tomlinson is a no to all three.

by Richard Hill on Feb 24, 2010 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

No way

After the whole crying like a baby over Shawn Merriman being mocked for his dance I just cannot look at LT the same. Could Bill put the insult behind him and coach him? I really hope not. There have to be better RB’s in the draft class.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 24, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Right "No Way"!

So I see I’m not the only one who remembers the grossly unsportsmanlike performance of LT. I liked LT a lot, and was willing to give him a break after his whining, thinking he was a class act and would “repent” in a day or so after the crushing loss. He didn’t of course, and a year later was still mouthing off even before the loss in New England. I must admit I enjoyed that win. I also enjoyed the fact that another AFC East team blew the Chargers playoff hopes off the chart this past season. Perhaps the only time in this long life I even mouthed the phrase “Go Jets”. :)

I suspect he’s headed to the Saints and will have a good year, and another no playoff or Superbowl win. How fitting, that.

by Alaska Patriot on Feb 25, 2010 3:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm. I see the Saints as particularly unlikely

Firstly, they already have a ridiculously deep running-back corps – so deep they are likely to cut high quality players from it, not add good quality free agents to it. Reggie Bush, Mike Bell, Pierre Thomas is a terrible three-headed monster. Where would LT fit?

Secondly, the Saints (because of that last-eight team rule) are only allowed to sign as many free agents as they cut and the guys they release have to be of a comparable quality to the guys they sign. I’m pretty sure that Ladanian Tomlinson, future Hall of Famer, would be considered a low-rent free agent acquisition, so they’d have to cut someone of similar (read: HIGH) value merely to get him. And why would they cut a very good player to sign an ageing running back when they’ve already got a very, very gifted RB corps? If they were to make a splash in free agency (which is unlikely due to the top-8 rule in the first place), it’d probably be to bulk up their D, not their high-flying O. Darren Sharper is pretty old and might need a replacement at some point, for instance…

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 25, 2010 4:00 AM EST up reply actions  

there's only one theory under which this would make sense.

If you think it is absolutely necessary to have a running back who is primarily a pass-catcher (Faulk), a running back who is questionable running into the line (Maroney), and a running back who is old and always hurt (Taylor), then by all means hire LDT. Then you can fire all three of those guys and hire a stud who can run up the middle without breaking a shoulder and dropping the ball.

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by JohnHannahRules on Feb 24, 2010 10:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I don't know if there's a different topic

but what about Westbrook? He seems like a prototypical late-career, whatever-the-team-needs veteran with something to prove like Corey Dillon. I think he’d be a better signing than LdT.

Sproles seems like too much of a risk – an O-line that hasn’t had to block for a true scatback might have a hard time adapting to his running style

by sc4rs on Feb 24, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

interesting

I hadn’t even thought about Westbrook. I guess my question would be, given what we would likely use him for, is he that much of an upgrade over Faulk? Especially given Faulk & Brady have an almost ESP-like connection, and if you are looking to bring in a RB mostly as a receiver, that is pretty important.

by JohnPaul on Feb 24, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Another thing to consider is

Having another very good catching RB would alleviate the need for a true 3rd WR as well. Part of the reason that Welker and Moss doesn’t cut it might be because Maroney/Morris are pretty much nonentities in the passing game.

by sc4rs on Feb 24, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely.

The team probably knows more about his status there than anyone and they are letting him go.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

so you want our WR corp to look like this

Moss, Tate, Edlerman, Maroney and Westbrook?

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 24, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Faulk over Maroney

and maybe a young WR from the draft, but it seems a better 5-wide lineup than putting Stanback out there at least…

by sc4rs on Feb 24, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think Westbrook, despite his age, is a perfect committee back.

However, I feel like some other team will sign him and allow him to be a #2 back, or even a feature. Doubt we’d get him.

by Richard Hill on Feb 24, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe a #2

Don’t think he is going to be a feature back anywhere. Too old, too many injuries. Remember last season he only played 8 out of 16 games for Philly, mostly because of TWO concussions in almost back-to-back.

by JohnPaul on Feb 24, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

LT

Pouty superstar issues aside, for a time, LT was as good a running back as the NFL has seen. He was an absolute monster. It’s sad to see his skills decline so quickly. But I don’t see him helping the Patriots much, and he would come with serious baggage.

Westbrook might be an interesting possibility, but he seems pretty broken down as well. But taking a chance on Westbrook getting healthy might make more sense because you don’t have the diva baggage to deal with.

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by rebop on Feb 24, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Looking at his numbers while researching this story, I was shocked at his production, specifically 2006. Definitely a monster.

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by MaPatsFan on Feb 24, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

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