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WR Brandon Tate will be an asset to the team in 2010.

Mike Reiss analyzes which QB should be the highest paid, Brady or Manning.

Ron Jaworski says it should be Brady. “Me personally, I’m about the jewelry,” Jaworski said. “And the jewelry that Tom Brady has is three World Championship rings on his finger. Peyton Manning has one. He has a chance to get two. When all is said and done, maybe he’ll have more than that. But right now, I think the jewelry [says] Tom Brady should be the highest-paid guy in the National Football League.”

Albert Breer talks with Saints' defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

"I think the world of Bill Belichick," he responded. "I think he's one of the all-time best coaches. ... With he and I, there's a respect factor there."

"We’re talking about this: First guy blows ’em up, second guy cleans ’em up," Williams said, talking about his philosophy on takeaways. "And that’s what we’re looking to do. Again, they’ve played for a lot of coaches. When I walked in the first day in the first meeting in offseason conditioning, on April the 1st, there were a lot of things to be covered in that 30-minute meeting. One of the things I covered was: There will not be an excuse, by anybody in this room, about having a coach slow you down.

"There will not be an excuse about wishing you played for a coach that would let you play, that would encourage aggressiveness the way I’d encourage aggressiveness. All my life, I’ve been trying to speed players up, toughen players up, nasty players up, and I promise you if we live on the edge, and play on the edge, I’ll grab you before you fall off.

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Not to get into it with Ron Jaworski...

but TEAMS earned those Super Bowl rings, not QBs.

I don’t know who should be paid more (as a Pats fan I hope Manning pulls down the bigger contract), but making the determination exclusively on SB rings is silly.

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by rebop on Feb 4, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

agreed it is silly just like it is when you try to say one player is better than another based solely on rings but sadly it is done all to often.

The Horses font feet have cleared the huddle and as time slows it is also time for the back feet to clear and for us to declare victory!!!!! GO COLTS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 4, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you

but personally I think Brady should be the highest paid but I doubt he’ll be. That Eli manning contract and the ridiculous rookie pay scale last year screwed things. Now 2nd tier qbs are getting high pay…really adds to the pressure of paying mannning,Brady,and brees

by lololol on Feb 4, 2010 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

so where is the analyzes in that Mike Reiss article cause I saw one bias persons view and that was it. lol

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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 4, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

it's his own plus Jaworski's opinion

How much more do you think Peyton will get than Eli?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 4, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

only one Tebow vote - but a whole lot of linebacker votes

In:

http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=41762&pcid=46

I’m hoping we go for either an offensive lineman (my first choice) or a defensive lineman. Gimme the best fatty, plz.

by mmmmm on Feb 4, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

I'm sensing lineman

The Pats under Belichick have a long history of first-round, high second-round D-linemen – Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Brace with the 40th pick – and a slightly shorter one for O linemen – Mankins, but three OTs in the 40s. The highest OLB taken is Shaun Crable. The Pats have always been able to pick up LBs in trades and free agency, but linemen are usually drafted.

It could also depend on the Mankins situation – if he’s signed to a 2+M tender, anyone else can take him, but they cough up a first-rounder. With two firsts, Hoodie could do a lot, so then it’s all up in the air – he could trade up for a Suh, or trade down for a bunch of T, G and DE. This is a particularly deep draft due to the underclassmen wanting to get drafted before there’s a rookie cap, so the second-round draft picks are really a 1A – there’s two drafts worth of first-rounders in one draft set. It’s one of the hardest to predict, really.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 4, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

If Mankins got taken away and we got a 1st round pick as comp…we’re more or less forced to draft Lupati (sp? That guard projected to go late in the 1st)

I’d rather just keep Mankins…I don’t think we stand much to gain from his departure.

by Csigs on Feb 4, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

SUH

…i wish his stock would drop…so the pats could trade up and get him

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 4, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Spreading rumors about a certain rash might do it....

What have you heard?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

the kid is a protype richard seymour. he looks like one (same body size), he plays like one…maybe better.
if he drops to 5…trade w. KC to get him

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 5, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

** prototype

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 5, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

riely cooper??? i dont want him...he drops a lot of balls

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 4, 2010 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

Umm, is this the same Pats team we're talking about in that Tate article?

“While Tate rehabbed his right knee, the receiver-rich Patriots thought enough of his skills to draft him in the third round in 2009.”

Receiver-rich? Really?

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 4, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

We DID pick him...

…even though we picked up Greg Lewis and Joey Galloway in FA.

Which means that our receiving core looked like this at our draft:

Moss
Welker
Galloway
Lewis

Which, if Galloway worked out, would probably have been the #1 or #2 receiving core in the league.

by Richard Hill on Feb 4, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Frustrating how quickly that picture changed!

I thought we looked pretty solid at WR going into camp. Even more so when Edelman surfaced during preseason.

A few weeks later, there was no Lewis, no Galloway, and it became painfully obvious that Aiken wasn’t the answer at flanker 2.

by mmmmm on Feb 5, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

no special teamer is an answer to 3rd or 4th string WR

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 5, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be.

Welker started as a special teamer, but he moved up quickly.

Aiken has been primarily on ST for quite some time. He’s either great at it, or lousy as a WR, or both. Maybe both.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Eggs. Chickens. Hatching. Counting.

I still like GLew. It’s a shame they went with Galloway instead. Bleh.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 5, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't think Lewis did any better

except that one Moss-like catch he made tippy-toeing in the endzone

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 5, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Greg Lewis: 1 tippy-toe catch staying inbounds in the endzone.

Joey Galloway: 1 catch standing on the line in the endzone.

Greg wins. There isn’t that big a difference, but there’s a difference.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

G Lewis didn't have the Favre seal of approval

Favre arbitrarily picked a no-name receiver and made him his best buddy, and sadly for Lewis, it wasn’t him. He caught most of what was thrown to him; Favre just didn’t do it very often.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 6, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Favre didn't even throw to him the one time.

He said he just threw it up and somebody went and got it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 6, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I did wonder if Favre put all his receivers names in a hat and drew out one to be his go-to guy

Sidney Rice was up, so he got 99% of Favre’s looks. Sucks to be GLew.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 6, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

so do you guys want Porter?

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by Patssuck456 on Feb 4, 2010 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

I certainly hope not

If an ex-Phin LB/DE comes to NE, my money is on Jason Taylor, not Porter. The worse Porter plays, the more he talks, and he’s been talking a lot lately.

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by Comedic.Sans on Feb 4, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

JT would rather be in Miami

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by Patssuck456 on Feb 4, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

well

we do need a barking dog when we play the jets twice a year

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 4, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take him.

As long as he’d keep his mouth shut, which I actually think he might.

This team has absorbed sore sports before, turning them into leaders. I think Porter could make the same transformation.

by nbradley07 on Feb 4, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

but he's been such a vocal Belichick and Pats hater for so long

The other disgruntled players the Patriots picked up didn’t have a beef with the team itself or its coaching staff.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 4, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll be a vocal hater of any opponent.

I don’t think he has a real beef with the team, I just think he likes to talk smack. Dissing Belichick was his (monumentally stupid) way of trying to smack talk the Pats.

Maybe BB isn’t at all interested in him because of his past comments, or maybe he’d be interested to bring him and and “learn him good,” teach him some respect.

by nbradley07 on Feb 4, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

LT will be cut soon

i dont want him on this team

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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 4, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

no freaking way

He’d have to lower his standards to come here anyway, remember?

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Feb 4, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Too bad, the last few Bolts vets we've had come here have worked out pretty well.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not that kind of guy.

Not to pass judgement or anything, it’s just a matter of preference. Awkward!!!!!!

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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