New England Patriots Links 2/04/10 - Brandon Tate Appreciative of Patriots' Gamble
Mike Reiss analyzes which QB should be the highest paid, Brady or Manning.
Ron Jaworski says it should be Brady. “Me personally, I’m about the jewelry,” Jaworski said. “And the jewelry that Tom Brady has is three World Championship rings on his finger. Peyton Manning has one. He has a chance to get two. When all is said and done, maybe he’ll have more than that. But right now, I think the jewelry [says] Tom Brady should be the highest-paid guy in the National Football League.”
Albert Breer talks with Saints' defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.
"I think the world of Bill Belichick," he responded. "I think he's one of the all-time best coaches. ... With he and I, there's a respect factor there."
"We’re talking about this: First guy blows ’em up, second guy cleans ’em up," Williams said, talking about his philosophy on takeaways. "And that’s what we’re looking to do. Again, they’ve played for a lot of coaches. When I walked in the first day in the first meeting in offseason conditioning, on April the 1st, there were a lot of things to be covered in that 30-minute meeting. One of the things I covered was: There will not be an excuse, by anybody in this room, about having a coach slow you down.
"There will not be an excuse about wishing you played for a coach that would let you play, that would encourage aggressiveness the way I’d encourage aggressiveness. All my life, I’ve been trying to speed players up, toughen players up, nasty players up, and I promise you if we live on the edge, and play on the edge, I’ll grab you before you fall off.
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino looks at where the Patriots stand at the defensive back position, and what they'll need to improve.
- Patriots.com has collected a wide-ranging sample of what the "experts" are predicting the Patriots will do in the first round come draft weekend. Only one Tebow vote this time.
LOCAL LINKS
- Albert Breer looks ahead to the rehab and recovery awaiting Wes Welker after his surgery.
- Mike Reiss says ESPN analyst Chris Mortensen projected a 9-12 month recovery period for Wes Welker.
- Jeff Howe says Peyton Manning's swift recovery from injury bodes well for Tom Brady, and fans should be feeling optimistic in spite of all the 'end of the dynasty' talk.
- Mike Reiss notes Floyd Reese, the 2nd year Patriots point man for negotiations, has started working the phones this week. Here is a list of players scheduled for unrestricted free agency and a quick-hit thought on their situation.
- Adam Kilgore catches up with former Raiders QB Rich Gannon, who weighs the significance of the Tuck Rule Game.
- Jeff Howe says that despite his rocky career, expect Laurence Maroney back in Foxboro for one more year.
- Dan Popko notes CFL sacks leader Ricky Foley feels ready to jump to the NFL.
- Jerry Thornton ponders just how many ways one can hate Peyton Manning.
- Kerry Byrne says there are three things a team and its fans must do to ensure a successful Super Bowl Sunday: win the passing battle, the turnover battle and the tailgate battle.
- Mike Reiss notes Steve Muench of Scouts Inc.identified prospects Dezmon Briscoe (Kansas) and Riley Cooper (Florida) who he feels could be a good fit for the Patriots at the No. 2 receiver spot.
- Michael Hurley figures Feb. 3 marks the beginning and end of the Patriots dynasty.
- Michael Hurley wonders if the Patriots will be investigated for not disclosing Randy Moss' injury.
- Globe 10.0: Bob Ryan and Dan Shaughnessy debate whether the Patriots care about their players. After fake-sobbing for Asante Samuel (and reminding him to catch the damn ball), they conclude "No". It's about the $ value BB puts on each player in his position, and whether or not he can be replaced. (2.40 min. video)
- WEEI offers the transcript of Heath Evans appearance on the Dennis & Callahan show.
- Tom E. Curran spoke one on one with DeMaurice Smith, the NFLPA's executive director, about the issues the owners claim they are confronted with.
NATIONAL NEWS
- Robert Boyer (Burlington, NC Times-NewsTop News) NFL's Brandon Tate comes home. An appreciative and hopeful Brandon Tate said, "The Patriots took a chance on me. They must have believed in me. We'll see." Gotta love this guy!
- Gregg Doyle (CBS Sports) Eckel's murky Navy exit leaves shadow over Super Bowl appearance.
- Ken Belson (NY Times) The Who, and the Super Bowl's evolving half time show.
- Fox Sports Top 10 Super Bowl Personalities.
- Frank Deford (SI) Fooball has been number-conscious since the dawn of the Super Bowl.
- Ross Tucker (SI) Manning (drool) is the best (slobber) ever! Yada, yada, yada...
- Ryan Fowler (WhatifSports) Tale of the Tape: The Colts need Manning, the Saints need Brees more.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) NFL's best O-line? Not the Jets.
- Adam Schefter (ESPN) Sources: QB Brees to get new deal. The top three QBs all negotiating this offseason.
- Jack Bechta (Nat'l Football Post) More trade demands are coming: With no salary floor and fewer free agents, some players will look to change teams.
- Andrew Brandt (Nat'l Football Post) Frustration continues on NFL labor front: As uncapped year approaches, both sides refuse to budge.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Time to bone up on NFL labor trouble.
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Not to get into it with Ron Jaworski...
but TEAMS earned those Super Bowl rings, not QBs.
I don’t know who should be paid more (as a Pats fan I hope Manning pulls down the bigger contract), but making the determination exclusively on SB rings is silly.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
agreed it is silly just like it is when you try to say one player is better than another based solely on rings but sadly it is done all to often.
The Horses font feet have cleared the huddle and as time slows it is also time for the back feet to clear and for us to declare victory!!!!! GO COLTS!!!
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by TheAngelsColts on Feb 4, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you
but personally I think Brady should be the highest paid but I doubt he’ll be. That Eli manning contract and the ridiculous rookie pay scale last year screwed things. Now 2nd tier qbs are getting high pay…really adds to the pressure of paying mannning,Brady,and brees
by lololol on Feb 4, 2010 2:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so where is the analyzes in that Mike Reiss article cause I saw one bias persons view and that was it. lol
The Horses font feet have cleared the huddle and as time slows it is also time for the back feet to clear and for us to declare victory!!!!! GO COLTS!!!
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it's his own plus Jaworski's opinion
How much more do you think Peyton will get than Eli?
Keep the faith!
only one Tebow vote - but a whole lot of linebacker votes
In:
http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=41762&pcid=46
I’m hoping we go for either an offensive lineman (my first choice) or a defensive lineman. Gimme the best fatty, plz.
I'm sensing lineman
The Pats under Belichick have a long history of first-round, high second-round D-linemen – Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Brace with the 40th pick – and a slightly shorter one for O linemen – Mankins, but three OTs in the 40s. The highest OLB taken is Shaun Crable. The Pats have always been able to pick up LBs in trades and free agency, but linemen are usually drafted.
It could also depend on the Mankins situation – if he’s signed to a 2+M tender, anyone else can take him, but they cough up a first-rounder. With two firsts, Hoodie could do a lot, so then it’s all up in the air – he could trade up for a Suh, or trade down for a bunch of T, G and DE. This is a particularly deep draft due to the underclassmen wanting to get drafted before there’s a rookie cap, so the second-round draft picks are really a 1A – there’s two drafts worth of first-rounders in one draft set. It’s one of the hardest to predict, really.
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Well
If Mankins got taken away and we got a 1st round pick as comp…we’re more or less forced to draft Lupati (sp? That guard projected to go late in the 1st)
I’d rather just keep Mankins…I don’t think we stand much to gain from his departure.
SUH
…i wish his stock would drop…so the pats could trade up and get him
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Spreading rumors about a certain rash might do it....
What have you heard?
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
lol
the kid is a protype richard seymour. he looks like one (same body size), he plays like one…maybe better.
if he drops to 5…trade w. KC to get him
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** prototype
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riely cooper??? i dont want him...he drops a lot of balls
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Umm, is this the same Pats team we're talking about in that Tate article?
“While Tate rehabbed his right knee, the receiver-rich Patriots thought enough of his skills to draft him in the third round in 2009.”
Receiver-rich? Really?
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
We DID pick him...
…even though we picked up Greg Lewis and Joey Galloway in FA.
Which means that our receiving core looked like this at our draft:
Moss
Welker
Galloway
Lewis
Which, if Galloway worked out, would probably have been the #1 or #2 receiving core in the league.
by Richard Hill on Feb 4, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Frustrating how quickly that picture changed!
I thought we looked pretty solid at WR going into camp. Even more so when Edelman surfaced during preseason.
A few weeks later, there was no Lewis, no Galloway, and it became painfully obvious that Aiken wasn’t the answer at flanker 2.
no special teamer is an answer to 3rd or 4th string WR
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Could be.
Welker started as a special teamer, but he moved up quickly.
Aiken has been primarily on ST for quite some time. He’s either great at it, or lousy as a WR, or both. Maybe both.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Eggs. Chickens. Hatching. Counting.
I still like GLew. It’s a shame they went with Galloway instead. Bleh.
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I didn't think Lewis did any better
except that one Moss-like catch he made tippy-toeing in the endzone
Keep the faith!
Greg Lewis: 1 tippy-toe catch staying inbounds in the endzone.
Joey Galloway: 1 catch standing on the line in the endzone.
Greg wins. There isn’t that big a difference, but there’s a difference.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
G Lewis didn't have the Favre seal of approval
Favre arbitrarily picked a no-name receiver and made him his best buddy, and sadly for Lewis, it wasn’t him. He caught most of what was thrown to him; Favre just didn’t do it very often.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
Favre didn't even throw to him the one time.
He said he just threw it up and somebody went and got it.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 6, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
I did wonder if Favre put all his receivers names in a hat and drew out one to be his go-to guy
Sidney Rice was up, so he got 99% of Favre’s looks. Sucks to be GLew.
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so do you guys want Porter?
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I certainly hope not
If an ex-Phin LB/DE comes to NE, my money is on Jason Taylor, not Porter. The worse Porter plays, the more he talks, and he’s been talking a lot lately.
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JT would rather be in Miami
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I'd take him.
As long as he’d keep his mouth shut, which I actually think he might.
This team has absorbed sore sports before, turning them into leaders. I think Porter could make the same transformation.
but he's been such a vocal Belichick and Pats hater for so long
The other disgruntled players the Patriots picked up didn’t have a beef with the team itself or its coaching staff.
Keep the faith!
He'll be a vocal hater of any opponent.
I don’t think he has a real beef with the team, I just think he likes to talk smack. Dissing Belichick was his (monumentally stupid) way of trying to smack talk the Pats.
Maybe BB isn’t at all interested in him because of his past comments, or maybe he’d be interested to bring him and and “learn him good,” teach him some respect.
LT will be cut soon
i dont want him on this team
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Too bad, the last few Bolts vets we've had come here have worked out pretty well.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not that kind of guy.
Not to pass judgement or anything, it’s just a matter of preference. Awkward!!!!!!
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 5, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions

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