New England Patriots Links 2/08/10 - Saints' Super Bowl Win Proves 18-1 > 16-3
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 12:51 PM EST
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Mike Reiss offers this Super Bowl thought: Peyton is no Brady.
Peyton Manning is a great quarterback, but what we learned tonight in Super Bowl XLIV is this: He’s no Tom Brady in the pressure moment on the game’s biggest stage.
Looking to lead the Colts back from a 24-17 fourth-quarter deficit against the Saints, Manning threw an interception that cornerback Tracy Porter returned 74 yards for a touchdown, a key play in New Orleans' 31-17 upset victory.
It was a costly mistake, the kind of miscue that Brady, in his four Super Bowl appearances, never made in the critical fourth-quarter situation.
Even in the Patriots’ Super Bowl loss to the Giants, Brady had led a fourth-quarter drive for a touchdown before the defense couldn’t hold.
For all the stories that were written over the last week about which quarterback was the best of the decade – Brady or Manning – one aspect was overlooked: How Manning would lead the Colts in Super Bowl XLIV.
If you measure a quarterback by how he responds in the pressure moments on the game’s biggest stage, the debate ended with authority tonight.
Dan Shaughnessy jumps back on the Brady bandwagon. Don't hurt yourself Dan.
This game was supposed to be the coronation of Peyton Manning (hard to believe some nitwits were actually saying he’s better than Tom Brady) and the justification for Bill Polian’s decision to tank the final two games of the Colts’ regular season. We were going to tell you that the Colts won every game they tried to win and could have surpassed the 1972 Miami Dolphins.
TEAM TALK
- Erik Scalavino and Andy Hart debate: Would Tim Tebow, the former Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback, fit with the Patriots?
- Erik Scalavino reports the Patriots coaching staff is undergoing changes, with Belichick taking on an increased role in the defense.
LOCAL LINKS
- Tom E. Curran points to Peyton Manning's lost legacy, saying Joe Montana and Tom Brady never threw up on their shirts in the final three minutes of a Super Bowl.
- Karen Guregian notes Saints coach Sean Payton gambled, and his aggressive style won them the game.
- Adam Kilgore reports that when Peyton Manning walked off the field without shaking hands, he thought he was being deferential. Interesting.
- Ron Borges elaborates on Tracy Porter's pick-six of Manning that sealed the deal and put Peyton in place - Best regular season QB in the NFL. Playoffs belong to Brady.
- Ian Rapoport details Tracy Porter's fateful pick-six of Peyton Manning, the result of great film study.
- Karen Guregian points out that the sins of Indy remain unforgiven. The Patriots did it the right way, trying to win every time they took the field.
- Jim Donaldson asks if you had to take one QB to play a championship game, would you really take Manning over Brady?
- Christopher Price lists his ten things we learned from Sunday: Saints are more than just a symbol of hope, they are a really good football team.
- Tom E. Curran offers five thoughts from Super Bowl XLIV.
- Dan Duggan offers the best and worst of the Super Bowl game.
- Mike Reiss shares Gino Cappelletti's thoughts on the Super Bowl.
- Kirk Minihane offers one man's diary from a somewhat confusing Super Bowl.
- Mike Reiss compares the Saints offseason vs. the Patriots offseason with both teams needing to sign a number of their free agents.
- Mike Reiss breaks down the Patriots coaching staff.
- AP Roger Goodell: Ban on 3-point stance possible, as league keeps looking for ways to make the game safer.
NATIONAL NEWS
- NFL Game Center: New Orleans Saints 31 - Indianapolis Colts 17.
- Michael Silver (Yahoo! Sports) In the rush to crown Peyton Manning as the best QB all time, Tom Brady is being ridiculously disregarded. And this was written before the SB.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Brady still ahead of Manning in QB debate.
- Paul Kuharski (ESPN) Pick, loss hurt Manning's legacy.
- Alex Marvez (Fox Sports) Quarterback sneak: Manning beats an unhappy, hasty retreat without shaking hands.
- Phil Richards (Indy Star) Colts' glorious decade ends on bitter note as Brees, Porter lead New Orleans Saints.
- Bob Kravitz (Indy Star) Football gods get their revenge on the Colts.
- Tim Graham (ESPN) Saints make Colts look unprepared.
- Vic Carucci (NFL.com) Super Bowl loss reveals uncomfortable truth about Colts.
- Peter King (SI) MMQB: Who Dat, indeed: Two nobodies play vital roles in Saints' Super win.
- Mike Sando (ESPN) Manning, Montana and Super Bowl legacies.
- Tedy Bruschi (ESPN) Bruschi recalls the moment the Patriots came out as a team in Super Bowl XXXVI.
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Clearly Brady is better than Manning
I just cannot stand all these bandwagon front runner media people
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well
Manning isn’t a choker though. Wayne ran a route and didn’t establish inside leverage and allowed Porter to make a great play on the ball.
but 18-1> 16-3 …but 18-1 hurts more than 16-3. and TB>PM in the SB. 3-1> 1-1.
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Manning has a 9-9 playoff record that is mediocre at best
4 regular season MVP’s and only 1 superbowl that looks bad
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Manning made the bad throw earlier that drive that should've been picked...
…at the side-line. He also through a poor throw to Collie at the goal line (think it was a different drive). Collie was double smothered and Manning made a throw that Collie had to break up.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the out route to wayne and malcolm jenkins nearly picked it
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That touch pass to Clark was a close one, too.
It was about 6 inches away from 3 different defenders getting a good hand on it.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clark was an absurdly good throw, though...
…There were 2 guys underneath, 2 guys above and 1 guy smothering him.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absurdly good, or pretty damn lucky?
A little of both, I think. And you don’t get that lucky too many times against a good team.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The throw to Collie looked like the classic Peyton Manning "I want a PI call" throw
It works 70% of the time for him… but that 30% when it doesn’t work is a real bitch.
by bbismyhero on Feb 8, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Manning didn't look him off or anything, though
He was only ever going to throw to Wayne – watch Manning’s helmet. It didn’t move once. He scoped Wayne down and never, ever looked anywhere else, and that’s why the CB jumped the route – he knew it was coming to Wayne and guessed which way Wayne was meant to jump. Wayne could have salvaged it with a better, harder cut inwards, sure, but Manning has to take some responsibility for telegraphing the play the entire time.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Feb 8, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Saints finished 16-3
The Saints (Super Bowl Champs) finished 16-3. Is the 18-1 record better than that?
by Blueisgood on Feb 8, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
16-3 w. a sb is > than 18-1 and 16-3...also 18-1 > 16-3...bc of that perfect reg season record
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are both equally disappointing
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
18-1 w. no sb is more disappointing than 16-3 w. no sb. they had a chance for perfection and also the shot @ the best dynasty in the nfl ever.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nope...
it was directed at the Colts fan who decided to post his new T-shirt idea over here last week that was going to read:
17-2 > 18-1
Guess he’ll have to come up with a new idea now.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
its troollly
he is a troll…he loves to bring up 18-1
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i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, lol
weird thing is they all like to call the Patriots arrogant but post stuff like that. Funny how certain things can bug you more than others. That T-shirt thing bugged me cause it was some pretty serious preemptive gloating, and completely unprovoked.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
perpetutated by bbs.
i dont like that guy…esp after i saw your post from sb 42.
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i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah he's a foreigner
he doesn’t know better. ;-)
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a little rough on foreigners...
Hmpf.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Feb 9, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just playing
damn sarcasm font is still in beta
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunate lack of sarcasm font...
It means I can’t say the Pats should fire Tom Brady before his roster bonus kicks in without actually looking like I think that … etc. Sigh.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Feb 10, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Porter set Manning up to make it look like Wayne was open.
Why do you think he was running at full speed when he picked it off. He saw that Peyton was going to throw it to Wayne so you broke on it. His unclutchness(is that a word?) makes him not see that, like Favre, he doesn’t get it done when the game is on the line in the playoffs.
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by srdmad on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We better not draft Tebow...
…because the Wildcat doesn’t work against good, prepared football defenses.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 1:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You can't take snaps from Brady that would be dumb
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love your sig, btw.
Peyton “Regular Season” Manning. Classic.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks lol
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow would be a WR/RB.
I don’t believe the Pats would ever take TB off the field to replace him with a dimunitive, fundamentally-unsound passer. His potential to play the role of someone like Welker or Reggie Bush, though, is what I think the Pats would cite to if they were to draft him.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But why not pick a player who is better than Tebow...
…at the Welker/Bush position?
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Define "better."
A player with as much drive as Tebow, combined with significant athletic ability, is not an everyday commodity. Sure, there will be others that are more naturally gifted, but Tebow will dedicate himself to being the best asset he can be.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some other team will grab Tebow by the 3rd round...
…which means that we have to nab him in the 2nd round, or trade up to get him. As hard as Tebow will try, he will never be better than someone who has played their whole life at that position and who is supposed to do well.
If we were going for someone like Reggie Bush, we’d go after Joe McKnight or Dexter McCluster. If we wanted a Welker, we can go for Jordan Shipley. I’m not trying to say that Tebow won’t give us 100%, there are just players who are more talented at those positions Tebow might be converted to and those players will always be more talented.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd spend a 3rd rounder on him.
But no higher.
I think very few “talents” transfer meaningfully from NCAA to NFL. The desire to be great, however, transfers 100% of the time. I simply don’t see the kid failing at whatever role he is given, as long as it’s physically possible for him to do it (i.e. not at QB). Look at players like Bruschi, Welker, Faulk, Brown…most talented? Not by a long shot. Most drive? Yup.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...and we were a lilttle short on drive last year.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No third round pick, though - it's in Oakland
In no way, shape or form should the Pats trade down a second rounder specifically to get Tebow (maybe someone else, but not Tebow – too many need positions to fill). He’d be a project player at best, and those are pretty risky propositions – Edelman as a low rounder worked out, Pat White as a second-rounder didn’t (yet?). I don’t see it happening while the Pats have holes in the O and D line and linebacker corps – that’s Hoodie’s bread and butter.
Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.
by Comedic.Sans on Feb 8, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
I view Tim Tebow as the less talented football version of Tyler Hansborough. A lot of drive, surrounded by a lot of talent. The only difference is Hansborough was one of the best in the business. Tebow did so well because he was surrounded by talent. Watching his workout videos and watching the senior bowl shows that he has no business being and NFL QB regardless of his game against Cincinnati. I’m all for picking up a player with a lot of heart, I’m just against picking up a player with heart and heart alone. That stuff belongs in Hollywood, not the NFL.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TB
is too controversial a player, I feel he is too ego-high to be a patriot.
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
by Mainiac on Feb 8, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get the sense that he is egotistical at all (and I think you meant TT).
I think he wants to be a great football player, and will do what is necessary to achieve that.
I strongly disagree with his stances on social issues, but I don’t think that would have ANY effect on his ability to contribute on the Pats. I think if he were to go to other, less-disciplined teams, his non-football activism might become a distraction, but Belichick wouldn’t let that happen here.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow is possibly the most grounded guy there is...
…and he’s extremely selfless. He’s on a platform which allows him to express his views so he has done that. I disagree with his views, but that’s his prerogative.
Still, I don’t want to draft a nice guy. I want to draft a game changer. He isn’t the type of player who will be a game changer in the Patriots system.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All this talk about Manning being better than Montana and Brady is trash
There is only 1 Montana
There is only 1 Brady
There are a lot of QB’s with 1 superbowl
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Roethlisburger has two.
But I think he set a record in the first for the lowest QB rating by the winning QB. They won the game despite him, not because of him.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
funny how colts fans were talking shit about TB not shaking his hands after black sunday
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colts fans suck!
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The day after their team loses, they immediately revert to Pats-bashing to make themselves feel better.
And others wonder why we Pats fans are so easily agitated….
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
handshaking
all the trash spoken about belichick about being a sore loser and manning walks off doesn’t shake hands yet I hear nothing from the biased media because of this manufactured aura of manning.
by The Monk on Feb 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well BB did shake Tom's hands after black sunday
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i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
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by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can't bash manning
too many corporations depend on his image.
"These players, a lot of other people didn't believe in them, but they believe in themselves. And that is all that matters."- Bill Belichick
by Mainiac on Feb 8, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares about handshakes they are not paid to shake hands they are paid to win superbowls
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i could give a care about that either.
it bugs me when the press ‘blows’ up small sh*t like that (on any team or player).
by mellyh on Feb 8, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds so Junior High - like
Press: “Oh Peyton didn’t shake anyone’s hands. How could he diss people like that? He’s not going to be my BFF anymore.”
Press: “Hi Drew, want to be my new BFF?”
My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
indeed. they are so transparent & fickle.
you can see their headlines a mile away.
by mellyh on Feb 8, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was kinda annoyed about the no handshake thing
mainly because its just being a good sport. I don’t think its a big deal, but it is something I wish they would do. You just look bitter when you turn and walk off the field. Peyton looked bitter. LeBron looked bitter. BB looked bitter. So on and so forth
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i see where you are coming from...
but in the heat of the moment, let’s say, you want to get gone.
to have a moment.
do you really want the press bending it out of proportion.
regardless, they will. so i guess it comes with the territory.
by mellyh on Feb 8, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Stampede Blue headline
February 3rd, 2008 (Black Sunday): Choke job! Giants beat Patriots 17-14 by the always classy BigBlueShoe
Patriots lose Super Bowl 42. Eli Manning and the Giants just pulled out the biggest upset in sports history!
I guess karma has a way of coming back to bite ya, and sometimes the good guys win.
Way to keep it in the family, Eli! Be sure to hop over to Big Blue View and congratulate Eddie and the Giants fans over there.
Belichick’s post-game news conference was typical Bill: Assholish, short, and classless. The news conference was trumped only by his childish act of walking off the field with 1 second left on the clock, leaving his team on the field to finish the game. Brady is on now, and unlike previous loses (where he storms off and seems to cry) he’s actually standing in there and fielding questions. So, bully for Brady.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stampede Blue headline
February 4th, 2008 (the day after) What to make of the Giants collosal win over the Patriots again by BBS. Here is an excerpt:
18 and no. 18 and uh-oh. 18 and choke. Whatever.
Like the Bears last year and the Seahawks before them, the Pats are now the second best team in football. Winning 18 straight games means absolutely nothing in terms of history unless you win the Super Bowl. They didn’t. The 2007 is a disappoint for them. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer club.
It would be easy for us to laugh and call Belichick and Brady chokers, because of all the playoff games Peyton and the Colts have lost, they never “choked” away a Super Bowl like this. The Patriots offense was wretched, in particular their running game. Their defense folded big time (again) in the fourth quarter of the biggest game of their season. As I have said from day one: The weakness of this Patriots team is their defense, and without a dominant defense, you cannot win a Super Bowl.
There are so many ways to rub this in Patriots fans faces it isn’t even funny. Other than the Yankees blowing a 3-0 series lead to the Red Sox, this game was the biggest choke job in sports history. Say what you want about “any given Sunday,” but when you are a 14 point favorite and your team is 18-0, you better go out and play inspired football in the Super Bowl and win the damn game. The Pats didn’t.
You can rest assured, if the Colts had lost this kind of game, ESPN, Patriot Nation, and just about every other idiot in creation would call it a “choke job.” And if that label would apply to the Colts in that situation, it applies to the Pats.
Choke job. Big time.
So much for AFC dominance, huh? And how about that NFL parity? Despite all the crap that has happened this year, parity is what makes the NFL the best league in America. Flawed as it is, the NFL still finds a way to amaze. And flawed as they were, the NY Giants are now the best team in football.
Does this improbable win save the 2007 season? No. This season will long be remembered for scandal (Patriots), ugliness (Michael Vick), poor sportsmanship (Patriots again), and senseless tragedy (Sean Taylor). But, for one night, the ugliness was wiped away and we got to see what the NFL really is in its truest, purist form: A league of parity.
A league where anybody can beat anybody any given Sunday.
All I can say is, what an arrogant ass.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew I didn't like BigBS when he guest authored (he can't set aside his homerism at all)
But this is just childish crap.
I roll more eyes when people speak of karma and football. In the end, only one team ever wins. Does that mean all the other teams are working off their bad karma? How come super bowl winning teams have douche bags on them? Does the karma of the many offset the karma of the one? For that event are they a single soul, and its net karma weighed? How exactly does karma bite you as he said it did? Pretty stupid.
So now Eli being a Manning won one for the Colts since Peyton is a Manning (even though it is a team sport). So Brees winning it for the Saints, and the Saints being Archie Manning’s team, means that it is in the end a win for the Colts because of the Manning tie that binds all things. Sort of a karma glue.
Then of coarse beat on Belichick. Why not? Easy target.
Then the second article: “18 and no. 18 and uh-oh. 18 and choke. Whatever.”
Falling a minute short short in the pursuit of perfection is a choke? It would be easy to attack the Colts decision here, but that counters BigBS by attacking something he holds dear. There are alot of good Colts fans, and the pain is still fresh. I’ll take the high ground and abstain.
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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well...some colts fans are
insecure about themselves and their team.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some Colts fans???
These articles were written by the Head Writer. The comments on these two pieces plus others that I didn’t copy and link to, are brutal and hate-filled.
Granted, I really like some of their fans, but man that whole scene was hard to fathom and still distasteful to remember.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
changed to most
u dont see this from steelers fans…well…maybe a few
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't want to group them all together...
…I’d say at least half of the Colts bloggers call BBS out when he’s crying foul about nothing.
When BBS tried to make a big deal of Chris Johnson joking on Twitter about going to “paytons” house and getting the MVP trophy, most of the bloggers laughed at him and ignored him. He’s complaining about Lance Moore’s 2 point conversion and a lot of the people are telling him to stop complaining.
Angelscolts, Cassiper and a bunch of others are class acts. Everyone gets worked up some times, but those guys usually have level heads. BBS does not.
by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like the good eggs too, and I know what you're saying,
and they’re getting it from some new-name, instant-troll, so-called Pats fans over there a bit, but not from any of our regulars. Ugh, I remember it sooooooo well.
But a lot of those comments, from some of their regulars – not just trolls – were just plain nasty. Even now when talking about how lousy it would feel to be a Bills fan and lose 4 SBs in a row, there’s a guy wishing that feeling on Pats fans. It’s just crap like that that gets to me sometimes (like now.) I’ll get over it, but it had to be said.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was me
:-)
I was just playin. No intent to offend, but when you’re feeling down go back to your favorite punching bag, thats the SF Giants and the Pats. And it is football season so……….
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't going to name names in your case : )
And I certainly wasn’t going to post anything over there for a bit. But I’ll tell you it took a long time (longer than it should have) for me to get over that loss. Plus, everyone in the whole town was miserable – getting coffee, pumping gas, at the supermarket…etc…
At our house, we all started following the Celtics again a bit more closely and they had the good fortune of winning the Championship that spring. At least it gave us something to cheer about, and it took our minds off of football. (We cancelled NFL Network and refused to turn on ESPN for months until right before the Draft.)
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am boycotting ESPN until at least March Madness
and just falling back on my Hoosiers hopefully finishing the season with some respectable games. Also pitchers and catchers report in a few days. So its going to sting for a bit, but I’m gonna move on to find other things to take my mind off of it.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we play you guys on wed
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohio State?
I’ll be there.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed on the interstate
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Peyton Manning ran off with seconds to go @ Super Bowl 44...that is priceless
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Marvez-Manning-has-unhappy-ending-020710
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
could you be a fan of any shittier teams?
:-)
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by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well let me answer that question for you
Yes. Jaguars and Kentucky
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by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LA Dodgers
SF Giants, Detroit Pistons, Lakers, wow I could go all day
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by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hate all 4 of those teams
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed on the interstate
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Peyton Manning ran off with seconds to go @ Super Bowl 44...that is priceless
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Marvez-Manning-has-unhappy-ending-020710
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok you're not so bad then
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by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
my buckeyes are the pride of the big ten in football and maybe in basketball. the hoosiers on the other hand are the opposite :)
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159mph is my top speed on the interstate
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
Peyton Manning ran off with seconds to go @ Super Bowl 44...that is priceless
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Marvez-Manning-has-unhappy-ending-020710
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 9, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
give us another year in bball
the football team is a lost cause. Gives us a reason to tailgate though
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by AJforAZ on Feb 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nice job finding these articles
bbs is a tool.
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
people struggle with the notion that a loss equals a choke
choking and losing are not equivalent. Laying an egg and choking are.
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by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Colts as team of decade? Not in playoffs
2009
14-2 (1st place)2-1, lost in Super Bowl XLIV
2008
12-4 (2nd place)
0-1, lost in wild-card round
2007
13-3 (1st place)
0-1, lost in divisional round
2006
12-4 (2nd place)
4-0, won Super Bowl XLI
2005
14-2 (1st place)
0-1, lost in divisional round
2004
12-4 (2nd place)
1-1, lost in divisional round
2003
12-4 (2nd place)
2-1, lost in AFC Championship
2002
10-6
0-1, lost in wild-card round
2001
6-10
Missed playoffs
2000
10-6
0-1, lost in wild-card round
Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
i love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
by NinjaZX6R on Feb 8, 2010 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In those losses,
Manning and his supposedly great offense scored over 20. Manning chokes in big games, just like at Tennessee.
On the court they call me The Cloud, because I make it rain. They also call me Money, because I drop dimes.
by srdmad on Feb 8, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Saints fans should relish the way their team is revered and loved, now.
Because 2-3 Superbowls later, these “gutsy” calls become “arrogant.” “Confident” coaches become “smug.” “Trust in your offensive players” becomes “distrusting your defensive players.”
“America’s Team” becomes “the Evil Empire.” Relish it while it lasts, Saints fans.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
in the same vein
They may have saved the Colts from being the recipients of that same negativity. As the Pats’ SB wins get smaller and smaller in the rear-view, the amount of venom reserved for the organization seems to have diminished…conversely, this season I noticed a very slight uptick in anti-Colts sentiment where I live, and it increased a little over the season as their record continued to stretch (until the Jets game, and then people starting harping on them for all different reasons). Had they won yesterday, I wonder how much that would have gone up.
by jctsai12 on Feb 8, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The "decision"
to throw the week 16 game against the Jets didn’t do them any favors in the court of public opinion.
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bandwagon fans is what pushes that sentiment
3 SBs will have them coming in droves and they usually clueless and disrespectful. That disrespect gets projected on the team and coaches.
I’m concerned if the Colts as a more complete team get a few SBs that they will become the bad guys too. But hey I’ll be a bad guy if it gets some ’ships.
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by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 2:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Some call them the "Pink Hats."
Which refers, somewhat derogatorily, to all the women who became Red Sox fans after the 2004 World Series win, buying and adorning pink Red Sox hats en masse. The terms now refers universally to bandwagon fans of all genders.
I don’t know if the terms is universal or New England base, but pretty much everyone hates them. ESPECIALLY longtime fans.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ah the pink hat syndrome...
You know what Boston team has absolutely no pink hat syndrome? The Bruins. I’ve never met a casual Bruins fan. They are either hardcore or not fans at all.
by bbismyhero on Feb 8, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m not sure a person can be a casual Bruins fan. Personally, I don’t understand hockey. I think it is, in part, due to the fact that as a kid, hockey requires ice time and expensive equipment; only the dedicated are willing to take on the expense. Other sports (ie: football, baseball, basketball) can be far less expensive, therefore promoting more participation and awareness.
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by MaPatsFan on Feb 8, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hockey is a dying sport.
It simply lacks mass appeal. When you have teams in Dallas, San Jose and Florida winning titles, it’s not good for the game, because it doesn’t build the fan base. Kids in those regions don’t play hockey! Conversely, you can play baseball/football/basketball almost anywhere.
Also, as a general sports fan, I find that hockey vacillates almost instantly between the poles of “insufferably boring” and “too hectic to follow.” I’d rather watch golf.
by nbradley07 on Feb 8, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In the frgid northland here, there are fewer and fewer kids ice skating on their own.
Hockey still does well, but it’s because the association here makes it so that the costs can be paid for with service time. I grew up in Illinois, and I never ice skated nor knew anyone that did. If that is the dividing line north/south then it cuts much of the country out. Still huge in Canada.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's mostly NE based term
It’s not widely accepted term outside of you guys
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by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 2:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Its funny the Colts have the most wins the last decade yet they are not even close
to being the team of the decade. The last 3 decades have been dominated by
1980’s SanFrancisco 49ers
1990’s Dallas Cowboys
2000’s NewEngland Patriots
You need the hardware to be up there! Hey that rhymes
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No contest
great sig by the way, haha
Keep the faith!
by Marima on Feb 8, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did the Cowboys and Niners have the most wins in their respective decades?
by bbismyhero on Feb 8, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who knows, they just had the wins that counted:
1960’s Packers (2 of 2) 1967, 1968 (2 out of first 3 Super Bowls ever played)
1970’s Steelers (4 of 4) 1975, 1976, 1979, 1980
1980’s 49ers (4 of 4) 1982, 1985, 1989, 1990
1990’s Cowboys (3 of 3) 1993, 1994, 1996 (2 of those were against the Bills)
2000’s Patriots (3 of 4) 2002, 2004, 2005, 2008
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course those are Super Bowl years, so the season would be one "year" earlier.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Note every one of those teams had back to back Super Bowl wins.
Steelers had two sets.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know I do know this though
Its all about hardware my list for the 2000’s would be
1. New England Patriots 3 superbowls
2. Pittlsburg Steelers 2 superbowl
3. Indinapolis Colts 1 Superbow (against Rex Grossman so I will have to do research on whether or not it actually counts as a whole superbowl)
Bad pick Peyton "Regular Season" Manning!!!
by Athletic on Feb 8, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the deal wasn't sealed IMO until week 16
if the Colts wanted to make their stake to the claim it would have taken 19-0
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by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say, it was fun when they were trying it.
18-1 sucks, but they aimed for the stars and came pretty darn close. The season will still be remembered by non-fans. Until most Super Bowl losses.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the 1 part stings...
but I am so very glad they went for it. of course, for them, that is what you do.
and no matter what they can hold their heads up w/ what they accomplished as a TEAM.
a perfect regular season.
by mellyh on Feb 8, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even though 18-1 sucked, it didn't feel completely empty
Being the only team to ever go 16-0 is still pretty nice and the 2007 Patriots were a historically great team. Tom Brady had a +42 TD to INT ratio for god’s sake, do you know how ridiculous that is? I don’t think I can accomplish that even in Madden.
We also got a shiny banner for it at Gilette =]
by bbismyhero on Feb 8, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't sting as much as the 3 part.
1 – they tried and failed
3 – they failed to try
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Feb 8, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't bother most of us
because…… the snow storm in Buffalo would have just made it 17-2 in the end. No one in their right mind would throw a 15-0 team with SB ambitions out there to take that kind of risk.
Indianapolis Colts, taking focus away from my DBacks every Sunday.
by AJforAZ on Feb 8, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
true that. i am glad BB didn't "rest" them.
they just went one game at a time. almost got it. Reflecting, man, that was fun to watch. probably a once in my lifetime thing.
by mellyh on Feb 8, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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