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New England Patriots Links 3/02/10 - NFL Scouting Combine Only One Piece To The Puzzle

Combine isn't everything.  Pats Draft picks Sebastian Vollmer and Julian Edelman weren't even invited last year.

Jon Robinson, Patriots director of college scouting, explains the value of the combine.

"This is just another piece to the puzzle," Robinson told [Patriots Today reporter Brian] Lowe. "We started looking at these guys last spring, and through their senior years this fall and it really just confirms (that) or maybe you see something in the way they move that you didn't see on the film that'll make you go back and re-evaluate the film to see that you've got the player evaluated correctly. ...

"It's exciting. It is a long process, and it's going to be even longer this year with the first round being it's own deal (standing alone on a Thursday night). So yeah, it's long, it's taxing, but it's the culmination of a year's worth of work with the scouts, with the coaches, with all of us trying to make sure we improve the football team."

Mike Reiss reminds us that the Combine isn't everything.  Pats are in it for the interviews and the physicals.

The Patriots drafted four players who weren’t invited to last year’s combine and two of them might be their best selections – offensive lineman Sebastian Vollmer (second round) and receiver Julian Edelman (seventh round). So while the team figured to make solid progress in its preparations at the combine, this remains only one piece of a much larger puzzle.

That’s really what teams like the Patriots are looking for, especially for the juniors who entered the draft. As part of the scouting process during the year, juniors are off limits, so this was the first chance for teams to meet with them. Because players are so well trained for the interviews, then the challenge becomes assessing how "real" the player actually is in those interviews.

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I think Reiss' view of Wheatley is accurate.

Terrence better be looking to hit the field ready to work this year. If he doesn’t impress pre-season, he’s not likely to see the field much this year. Waiting until fourth year for someone to “emerge” is a little crazy – it’s not like he’s behind a cadre of elite corners. I think he’s on a four year contract. If he “emerges” in year four is it because he “got it” or because he quit slacking off to get paid?

Come out this year Wheatley, or don’t bother.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 2, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

He also might have Arrington breathing down his neck

Arrington’s a lock for a roster slot – he’s a phenomenal gunner and Hoodie loves special teams. He’s also a big unit, very quick, and really wants to break into the D-back rotation. If Wheatley (or Wilhite) take a backwards step, they might find themselves losing snaps and/or a job to Arrington.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 2, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

just out of curiosity

How do you watch games?

As Mr. Sloan always says, there is no "I" in team, but there is an "I" in pie. And there's an "I" in meat pie. Anagram of meat is team... I don't know what he's talking about. --Shaun of the Dead

by JohnHannahRules on Mar 2, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I usually get to see the MNF and late Sunday game on ESPN

It means I didn’t see a great deal of the Pats this year, although I got to see most of the 2007 season (helps when they’re winning everything and are top billing, of course). Otherwise I’m living on highlight reels or live feeds via the ‘net, which isn’t ideal.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 3, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

u know there are websites to watch it

for freeeeeeeeeee

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by NinjaZX6R on Mar 3, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, some of them are US-only (which is charming)...

and some of them have issues with NZ internet, for some reason. Bleh.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 4, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of them say it's the Pats game (including a pic of the game), but it is really streaming porn....

Wrong kind of ball playing.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 4, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

What's that man doing behind center?

Oh… my…. CLOSE YOUR EYES, CHILDREN.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 4, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

here are some sites i use during the nfl season

http://www.justin.tv/

http://www.channelsurfing.net/

http://www.ilemi.com/

http://atdhe.net/

http://www.p2p4u.net/

luckly if the game is @ 4.15pm…they show it in the Ohio area on tv

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 4, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ohh..SMP

these aren’t porn sites for your pleasure

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 4, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks!

This could well come in handy. Thanks, dude.

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 4, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

some of the sites

will lag.

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 4, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Some of those sites - like justin tv

May give you the “unexpected results” I was talking about.

My son gained an unexpected education as he struggled to find Panthers games during the season.

He found that in some of them Panther optional.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

That's Panther as in

Panther no Panth I’m going thwimming.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

im sorry but im still laughing @ your expense

how old is your son?

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 5, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He was 14 at the time.

Old enough to know all the pieces, but a little young to put them together in quite that way. It definitely wasn’t an “I’ve seen this all before” experience for him.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Haven't seen his face quite that shade of red before.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ur wife would have beat u up if she saw that.

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 4, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

It was an interesting scene.

Son trying to find his game and clicking what looks like a valid link. Dad seeing the wrong action and grabbing for the mouse. Mom getting upset thinking it was intentional.

When she saw the link that said Panther game with a picture of the real game action, she admitted that we couldn’t have known. And no, we didn’t keep clicking the same link on "accident".

Just pointing out that you may want to test the link before younger eyes view the ensuing action.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh baby it's a wild world... at least on the web

I remember sitting with my daughter when she was in first grade and wanted to print out some pictures of “bunnies”. I suggested that typing “rabbits” would give her the kind of images that she was looking for. Man!

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Mar 5, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Reminds me of that song, "The Streak"

I hollered over at Ethel I said, “Don’t look Ethel!”, but it was too late. She already had a free shot.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 5, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha - fastest thing on two feet

maybe an option at wide receiver???

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Mar 5, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the sort of competition I like.

That’s much better that Ellis Hobbs and the best of the rest. Unfortunately, 2008 was exactly that. If we keep Bodden, he’s a lock and a much better DB to measure up to.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 2, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you guys think of Owens joining the Pats?

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 2, 2010 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

ummm

NO!

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 3, 2010 2:43 AM EST up reply actions  

plus

there are rumors that be might go to the Ravens. Which makes sense….he was suppose to go to the Ravens in 2004

Non Sibi Sed Patriae.
I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
I bleed Scarlet and Grey...A Buckeye for Life
(formerly mathew.40)

by NinjaZX6R on Mar 3, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

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