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Steal This Thread - Nose Picking Edition

 

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This thread (named in dubious honor [or honour for Comedic.Sans] of a book titled Steal This Book) is a thread that was designed to be stolen.  Random thoughts, check.  Inane observations, perfectly fine.  Multiple segues, the more the merrier.  Goofy pictures, haiku, whatever.  If the thread gets unwieldy, I'll create a new sandbox for us to play in.  Feel free to jump in, the water's fine.

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Ron Brace is trying to step up his game by looking over the rather large shoulders of Vince Wilfork.  How sincere is Ron's desire to get better?  Let's see. 

1. Vince is one of the best 2 gap Nose Tackles in the business. 

2. He just got paid quite well for that particular skill set.

3. More and more teams are switching to 3-4, therefore more teams will have need for talented noses.

4. Ron was underwhelming his first season, and is now considered more of a project player.

5. Vince sits next to Ron and WANTS to teach him.

Motivation now, can turn into serious cash down the road.  I'd say for no other reason than that, he wants to get better.  Sweat is the investment that can pay BIG dividends down the road.  For that reason alone, I think his desire is sincere.

The bigger question is can he step into Vince's oversized cleats?  For us, I hope the answer is a resounding yes.  Earlier in the aughts, King Richard of Seymour held his Nose position.  Seymour did favorably there, but really excelled when pushed out to the End.  Last year, Wilfork was slid out into the End spot to gain some pressure, and Wright picked his Nose position.  Now if we could clone the Vince, we'd have him out there in all three spots for 2 out three downs.  Ron is virtually the same body size.  If he can become as potent as Vince or close to it, it gives us many defensive options.

First is Vince holding the Nose, while Ron slides out and dominates an end spot.  Warren's no slouch either so we'll be back to Seymour days on the inside.  With the OLB's I hope we find doing the edge work.

Second is Vince and Ron on the outsides with Wright in the middle (a heavy three package).  I have to believe that the pocket would close pretty darn fast in that instance.  Following Wright could be a blitzing Mayo and nightmares for some poor QB.

Third is the 4 man front with around 700 lbs of Wilfork and Brace at Tackle saying, "Thou shalt not run through here".  With some hand in the dirt edge rushers (Tully - weak side and Warren - strong side) providing headaches on the Ends.  Add in an additional corner/safety blitz and you have major headaches for offenses.

Here's hoping Ron's teachable, Vince can teach, and opposing QB's are very uncomfortable this year.  Oh, and all RB's are tackled for loss.  A guy can dream can't he?

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Belichick will be more gifted than most if he has two Noses to pick from.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It'll also help to have a back up if you have a broken Nose.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen or bless you to that.

Whichever applies.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gesundheit, perhaps.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope that if Ron goes in at Nose, he doesn't blow it.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he does though, will Hoodie wave the white handkerchief?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he uses the opposition QB as a tissue paper

Then I’d have no complaints.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could use a nose that could blow throw opposing O-lines....

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We just don't want a guy like Saturday that could wipe our Nose for us.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, wouldn't the Colts fans rub our noses in it?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better that than having your Nose in line for some Sanchez...

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm keeping my nose out of there...

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good thing this isn't Cleveland

Can’t imagine Brace having to brown nose big Vince

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Mar 24, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mangina is a big enough brown noser to cover everyone there.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cover everyone there with a healthy overflow

Talk about up a river without a paddle…

Everyone aboard the steamer.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it also reminds me of the Humma Kavula scene from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Don’t Panic – words to live by (especially during the off-season).

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Brace to Wilfork: "Let me get the straight. First Mayo.... then cheese, ham, more cheese, a big slab of steak, pepperoni..."

I know, I know, not a caption contest. Couldn’t resist, though.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the appetizer all right.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what I kinda want to see?

A 40 defensive front of Warren, Wilfork, Brace and Odrick. That’s a tonne of fun. Unless you’re running into it, that is.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Warren could do well strong side, I think. I also though TBC could fill in with his hand in the dirt as well.

I if we pick up a decent end. Then Brace may just have to spell Vince in the 3 man.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just hoping he develops into more than Vince's backup.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to keep his nose clean, and go nose to the grindstone,

…but if he can he could win by a nose.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't be great at pass-rushing

but the Pats have a few run-first (run-only?) teams they are likely to face in the near future – Jets, Titans (maybe), Bills, Jags. If Bill’s all about taking away the other team’s strength, having a GIGANTIC D-line to stop the inside run is a nice option.

Forcing Sanchez, whoever the Bills QB is, or the Jags throw to get yardage sounds great…

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd been close to 3/4 ton of fun at least.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and as long as we're getting picky.

We’ve got a potential Fullback in Eric Kettani who is currently a nasal naval officer. Does anyone know how long he’ll be serving or where he is?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

No clue

but since he would’ve been a rookie last year, and I figured deployments are what, 3 years? I’d be highly surprised if he was back in football this or next year. Maybe after that? You’d know more about military regs than I, SMP.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

AF is usually 4 years, don't know about Navy.

Some guys get out MUCH sooner (See Kyle Eckel), and some do their duty WHILE they are playing (a great recruitment aid). Don’t know his situation.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doesn't sound like he's at workouts, so that might be an indication

If he’s not there are training camp, call him a scratch. Ye olde military reserve list for him…

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an older article that talks about him pre-draft.

It talks about the service options.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just found this:

Here

Kettani is committed to the Navy for five years after his graduation this spring. There’s a possibility he could serve two years, enter the NFL in 2011 and serve the rest of his Naval committment in the reserves.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I do the math right, he won't be on the team this year.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen several places that think he'll have to do the full five.

Kyle Eckel did something strange (and no one’s talking about it) to get out in 17 months. Maybe that’s why he didn’t stay here. Hoodie found out what happened….

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure navy contract is

6 yrs active duty (since he graduated from the naval academy…they all have to go active duty) and 2 years in reserve or IRR.

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by NinjaZX6R on Mar 24, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Thou shalt not run through here!"

Gandalf as MLB?

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I can see it now...

Opposition RB is scampering around the edge, TBC dives at his legs but misses, and he’s looking to bust it open around the CB. Suddenly the grey-haired ILB screams out THOU SHALT NOT PASS THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE and slams his cane into the ground, creating large jagged pit to appear across the width of the field. Poor little RB falls in, and they only promise to rescue him if he tosses the football out into the waiting arms of a now angry TBC…

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 24, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That could work.

Or as safety.

“You shall not PASS!”

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 24, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wot?

Methinks you’re doing it wrong…

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 25, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you chew more thoroughly, that won't happen.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I used to have a pet squirrel. No shit.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

DJ was a great pet.

Great sense of smell. If you pour out a bag of unshelled nuts, he’d grab the rotten ones and throw them on the floor. They’re very smart, and they can solve puzzles (not Crosswords or Cryptoquotes) that involve spatial relationships.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

They beat Mice, Gerbils, Hamsters, and Guinea Pigs any day of the week.

They are the king of the rodent family.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sciurus Regalis, I think.

Maybe, Sciurus Rex.

I know just enough Latin to be dangerous, but not enough to be useful.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, you talkin' about me?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

If our nose knows his nose is hot...do the hoes hose it down on the spot?

And, since the VP is such a VIP, shouldn’t we put the PC on the QT?

by JonnyNYC on Mar 25, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't know, but I'll find out ASAP.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pluto and I don't speak anymore.

Growing up thinking he was a planet, and then boom he loses his planet status. Breaks your heart.

Or were you talking about this guy?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No - you were right the first time

it was that Pluto.

You don’t speak with him anymore…I see you are just like all the other planets.
Is that you between Saturn and Mars?

How very crusty and gaseous of you

by JonnyNYC on Mar 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It's his fault for trying to pass himself off as something he's not.

I wonder if Charon knows? Imagine the humiliation of being a moon to someone you thought was a planet.

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess what goes around comes around.

In an orbiting sort of way.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll drink to that.

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The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 25, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the 22nd overall pick, the NE Pats select...

Taylor Mays!!!

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by Farorefox on Mar 25, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

ummmm

NO

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I love my ZX-6r Kawasaki.....159 mph is my top speed..will top that this spring
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by NinjaZX6R on Mar 26, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I was just stirring up some controversy ;)

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Driver of the "LaGarrete Blountwagon"
Driver of the "Please Fire Dan Henning" Bandwagon
Follower on the "Draft LaRon Byrd in 2011" Bandwagon

by Farorefox on Mar 27, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are there any other students lurking on Pats Pulpit?

I’m in that terrible week just after spring break when the last round of assignments are starting to pour in before everyone starts thinking about finals…not to mention it’s also tech/show week for the senior thesis dance show, which I’m dancing in (not my thesis, thank god, that’s a couple years away). Let’s just say, this week has disappeared rather alarmingly quickly…

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by Squeaky on Mar 26, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I've graduated to "student of life", so I don't count. I know there are some out here.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd glady be a student again though

4 yrs of low funds and no responsibilities what so ever? (other then passing)
Sign me up.

This whole “real world” thing, it’s nothing like what I saw on MTV OR in the movies.

Me winning isn’t, you do.

by JonnyNYC on Mar 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for the Caddyshack reference

I actually pictured Chevy Chase when I read that.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not being the ball, Danny.

It’s kind of hard with you talking like that.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It felt so good when I dropped Caddyshack in the STT for the Mannings

I had to do it again.

Hey did you guys here about the new field at the Razor? They put in a…um…a ….a…eh….well it’s a hybrid…um it’s Kentucky blue grass and Featherbed.

Best thing about it is you can play 4 quarters on it, then take it home and get stoned to the bee-jeebus-belt on that stuff.

by JonnyNYC on Mar 26, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO

The new draft class will LOVE that.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rodney Dangerfield (he of the Reche Caldwell eyes), thought he was bombing because no one was laughing.

Everyone on the set was trying not to bust a gut laughing and ruin the take.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steal this thread gets no respect, I tells ya, no respect at all...

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 27, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cinderella story....

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the movie where Kenny Loggins assured me that "I'm alright".

Little did he know….

I was impressed that sprinklers could be used for percussion. Who knew?

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

TGIF

Man this week is dragging, and it is proving the following statement:

Make it idiot proof and someone will build a better idiot.

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Idiot golfers?

“Maybe if my mistress deletes my number from her phone, everything will be fine. Wait. That’s right, isn’t it? Just in case, I should leave highly incriminating voicemails. Phew. Problem solved

Token southern hemisphere guy - 14,688km from Foxboro. That's 9128 miles, for you heathens.

by Comedic.Sans on Mar 27, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just take you DNA and go.

You’re not likely to put the gene in genius….

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by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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