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Patriots Draft Shots: Just Getting Started!

According to team President Jonathan Kraft, the New England Patriots off-season is just warming up.

"I don't think the offseason is over," the Patriots president said Thursday morning on WEEI Sports Radio 850's "Dennis and Callahan" show. "We had a number of people on our team who were priorities, and we’ve taken care of them, which I think leads us to believe we’re in a better place."

Locking up players in key positions definitely puts the team in a better place, but there are still some empty holes on the team that we'll have to fix via the draft or after the draft when other veteran players get cut.

"We always felt that this draft would be a huge draft," [Kraft] said, recognizing that more players than usual have entered the draft because of the league's unsettled labor situation. Kraft added, "I think between June and the start of the season, you will probably see significantly more players getting released with veteran-type experience than you have in the past."

I agree. But who are the Patriots looking at in the draft? More after the Jump.

Star-divide

According to a great list by the Boston Globe, the following players have been looked at by the Patriots:

QBs:

Florida QB Tim Tebow
Oklahoma State QB Zac Robinson
Cincinnati QB Tony Pike
Applachian State QB/WR Armanti Edwards

These quarterbacks are all projects. Tebow isn't given a position, but he wants to be a QB. He'll be a early-mid pick. Robinson and Pike will be mid round picks. Edwards will be a late round pick, position the likes of Julian Edelman. However, I don't see us grabbing Edwards because we DO have Edelman. Pike will probably be taken before Robinson, but I think Robinson has a better shot of being selected by us as a project behind Hoyer- a 6th or 7th round pick to see if he works out.

RBs:

Buffalo RB James Starks

Another late round prospect, Starks is a BIG player at 6-2, 214 lbs. He can be taken in the 6th or 7th, which means he's a great player to pick up with our numerous late picks- and perhaps he'll find a niche on our team.

WRs:

Cincinnati WR Mardy Gilyard
Citadel WR Andre Roberts
SMU WR Emmauel Sanders

Gilyard is an early round prospect, Roberts is an early-mid rounder and Sanders is a late round prospect- all three of which enjoyed great success in college, but at different conference levels of competition. On a team looking for a player to emerge as a #3, all three players can potentially fill that position.

FBs:

BYU BYU FB Manase Tonga

5-11, 245 lbs. Big boy. Big blocker. Late round pick who could be grabbed to see if he'll work out on our offense.

TEs:

Florida TE Aaron Hernandez
Iowa TE Tony Moeaki
BYU TE Dennis Pitta

Hernandez is a 2nd round prospect, Pitta is a mid-round pick and Moeaki is a mid-late round pick. Moeaki may actually be the best fit because he can block- but he's injury prone. We need a TE, so if the value is good, expect us to grab one of these players.

DLs:

LSU DE Al Woods
Georgia NT Jeff Owens
Kentucky DE Corey Peters

After the success of Myron Pryor, Peters is another prospect from Kentucky. All three players are projected to be late round selections and I'd expect us to grab at least one of them at the end of the draft. All are big boys (6-2ish, 310ish range) and fit the 3-4 DE position well.

ILBs:

Indiana ILB Matt Mayberry

Mayberry is another late round potential pick that's worth looking at for LB depth.

OLBs:

Ohio State OLB Thaddeus Gibson
Texas OLB Sergio Kindle
Clemson OLB Ricky Sapp

These players are all early prospects to be taken in the first two rounds. In a position of greatest need, the fact that we're interviewing these players shows that Belichick knows what he wants from his OLBs and he's going to get them. Gibson is the smallest at 6-2, 242 lbs and the other two are 6-3+ and 250ish lbs. That's Belichick's prototype and the fact that these are the players we're looking at shows that we're probably not going to deviate from Hoodie's ideal.

CBs:

Maryland CB Nolan Carroll
Northwestern CB Sherrick McManis

These CBs are also late rounders (7th-undrafted) who are large. 5-11, around 200 lbs, it appears we're looking for larger size in our secondary.

Ss:

Virginia Tech S Kam Chancellor
Texas S Earl Thomas

Thomas is a first round pick and Chancellor is a late rounder. Complete opposites, Thomas is 5-11, 200 while Chancellor is 6-3, 230. We already have exceptional safety depth, but if a draft day trade happens (Sanders?) we could look to grab one of these players. I expect the Thomas visit to more to set up the Patriots draft board instead of actual interest- safety is one of our lowest positions of need.

Ps:

Michigan P Zoltan Mesko

With Hanson perhaps on the way out, Mesko could be a 6th or 7th round selection to fill the position for years to come.

So what do these visits mean? It looks as if we're looking at players for the end of the draft. Players who are regarded as top prospects have been looked at their entire careers so teams already have a good idea of who these players are and whether or not they'd fit. The players the Patriots are looking at are draft bubble players who may not be well known. These interviews and workouts give the Patriots a heads up on players no other teams will have- a great strategy if info on the top players are already well known. Expect a handful of these players listed to be selected with our absurd 7 sixth or seventh round picks.

The great thing about 6th and 7th round picks is that none of them are expected to be great. If we managed to grab 4-5 players who can contribute, it will be viewed as an overwhelming success. Let's hope it is.

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I think it's great the Patriots goes to the small schools to conduct workouts...

…with the lesser known players. But when the Patriots have 30 interviews to conduct at Gillette, I hope we bring in the early picks. They have the most value and even if we have a general idea of the players, we need the BEST idea of these players, which would require a lengthy interview.

by Richard Hill on Mar 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Where do you find the time to write all this?

I wish I could contribute more to the site, writing fanposts and such, but I never seem to have enough free time to do anything more than comment. And then you come along with 5 posts a day. You’re making me look bad.

Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.

by LegendaryTadpole on Mar 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

It's all about balancing what to write about.

Some things look more impressive than they actually are. If there’s a news article, I can use two quotes and add maybe two paragraphs worth of opinion and summary. I pop on around 4 times a day- when I wake up, at lunch, at dinner and at night and try and add an article or two each time.

You should definitely write more!

by Richard Hill on Mar 26, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget the picture

Those are always good for taking up space. : )

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Mar 26, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I should

Maybe after the LSAT, though. =P

Oh, if a man tried to take his time on earth, and prove before he died
What one man's life could be worth--oh, I wonder what would happen to this world.

by LegendaryTadpole on Mar 26, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does it say what OLs have been brought in to visit?

If so, I hope Saffold’s on this list.

Also, surprised they haven’t brought in Odrick just yet.

The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL

The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back

The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods

by R_Adragna on Mar 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Punter

Jeff Feagles is available. I like to grab him at some point before camp starts up.

The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL

The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back

The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods

by R_Adragna on Mar 26, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Isn't he the oldest guy in the NFL now?

Or am I thinking of the wrong guy?

My life has been a trivial pursuit. Trivia: where three roads meet.
The more you know, the more you know that you don't know.

by SlotMachinePlayer on Mar 26, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he is.

I think between him and baseball pitcher Jamie Moyer, their ages combined would break the century mark.

The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL

The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back

The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods

by R_Adragna on Mar 26, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can trade someone

for either of the punters on the Colts or Saints. Don’t they average like 50 yards per punt, compared to 38 yards for Hansen? Where did they find those guys?

by Ozstryker on Mar 26, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Great.

Now you have to convince the Saints or Colts to give up the keys to their special teams and to the Super Bowl.

by NJ Native on Mar 27, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say

I remember saying that Andre Roberts was awesome a few weeks ago.

here’s some highlights of why(a little blurry): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An5rP_BiEdg

He’s an excellent catcher, and can run his routes, but he’s mostly used on short passes unfortunately. The guy has so much potential. He’s a 4th rounder I believe.

by patriotguy2 on Mar 26, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, I made an analysis post on silverandblackpride on Matt Mayberry

I looked at Matt Mayberry on a highlight video on youtube, and I just want to start out saying that they were no overhead angles so I can evaluate his overall awareness.

 

When I look at a LB, especially a MLB, I look at awareness, tackling and maybe big hits, speed and acceleration to the ball carrier, strength, and pass/run coverage, and leadership and character. Okay, here it goes:

 

Matt Mayberry

6’2" 238 lbs.

Played at Indiana as a MLB all 4 years.

 

Awareness: What I seen in the vid, was average- above average awareness. let me explain. when it comes to against the rush, he keeps his eye on the RB, and goes to where his instincts lead him too. Most of the time, the RB thinks he found a hole, then Mayberry comes in and says “I don’t think so.” the tackles him. In passing, he’s pretty good in zone. What makes him successful usually is his speed, where he can look at where the QB is looking and just as he throws it, Mayberry sprints after the guy, and tackles him. But sometimes(or maybe half of the time), the catcher is already 3-5 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, which means mayberry plays a bit deep, and keeps his guys in front of him, so when they catch it, he meets them right away.

 

Tackling- Tackles are sometimes great, and sometimes not. I often see him make drag down tackles on guys who are quick, and when guys either don’t see him or are right in front of him, he makes a good wrap up tackle. With the drag own tackling, he mostly seems to try and use his weight to take them down. He has great speed to get to the ball carrier or Qb and make the tackle, or at least try to, and slow the guy down. Looking at the vid, I can already tell that he would have trouble with very quick backs, and VERY strong backs(VERY strong ones though). This seems like he needs to improve on, with some strength in the mix as well(we’ll get to that).

 

 

Speed and acceleration- Mayberry is VERY fast, and can get to whoever has the ball, very quickly. I’ve seen him accel RIGHT when a guy catches the ball, and hits him then and there. This is his strongest attribute. There’s nothing to be said now really.He can also accel fast to where the ball carrier is(RB), when he gets the ball, and go through a gap and make a tackle for a loss.

 

Strength- Something he needs to build up a bit. I see him having trouble with guys who are known for breaking tackles, and adding some strength will help him greatly. I don’t want to see him try and make a tackle on a guy who can just break free from it due to mayberry having no strength, and a needs improvement( A BIT) in the tackling category. He may have trouble facing a blocker as well, but his speed will likely direct him to the outside of the blocker, instead of right into him. He’s a MLB, so I might not worry at all when pressing TE’s n the line of scrimmage, which a quick TE can easily burn him(BUT he can run the TE down and make a tackle, but the TE will get some yardage out of it sadly.

 

Pass/Run coverage- In zone, he can excel at. He has good awareness to know where the QB can throw it, and possibly make a pick(he has I think 3-5 picks last year). Man coverage he CAN do well as long as he has above average hip movement as well(which he looks to be pretty good). He also has a pretty good nose for the RB and where the RB will go. He seems to be in on many tackles that involve the RB. He can be good here as well. But nifty runners will go by him pretty well it looks like. He needs to improve hip movement more in both categories, then he’ll be able to say “I don’t think so” whenever a RB tries to contest with him.

A note I want to point out is the play-action. He looks like he can be fooled in play-action quite a bit. He does have good awareness, and speed, so he can drop back pretty well, and maintain coverage. Trick plays may be his weakness though, as he can over-pursuit pretty easily.

 

Leadership/Character- Mayberry is a student of the game, and he’ll improve in any category so he can help his team. He seems to command the field, and he doesn’t have any criminal or “bad character” activities from what I know of(not enough info in that specific category). All I know is that Mayberry is a good influence for the team.

 

 

Mayberry led his team in tackles, I think because he runs down his opponent, as well as stop them after the line, or a couple yards beyond it. He can blitz well, but as long as he is not met by a blocker at full contact, and would be taken out of the play, unless he disengages, which he can do well. He has the nose for the pass, and can make several breakups due to pretty big hits right when their receiver catches the ball, or he’ll dive or knock it away, so he’s a competitor who will not break down by any means, and I like that.

 

2009 Regular Season Stats:

 

Eastern Kentucky- W 19-13: Total Tackles- 5(solo 3); 1 sack; 1 pass defended

 

Western Michigan- W 23-19: Total Tackles- 6(solo 4)

 

@ Akron- W 38-21: Total Tackles- 5(solo 3)

 

@ Michigan- L 36-33: Total Tackles- 10(solo 5)

 

Ohio State- L 33-14: Total Tackles- 10(solo 5); 1 sack

 

@ Virginia- L 47-7: total Tackles- 8(solo 5)

 

Illinois- W 27- 14: Total Tackles- 14(solo 12); 1 pass defended

 

@ Northwestern- L 29-28: Total Tackles- 13(solo 9); 1 Interception

 

@ Iowa- L 42-24: Total Tackles- 9(solo 2); 1 sack; 1 int

 

Wisconsin- L 31-28: Total Tackles- 4(solo 3)

 

@ Penn State- L 31-20: Total Tackles- 15(solo 7); 1 int

 

Purdue- L 38-21: Total Tackles- 9(solo 3); 2 sacks; 1 pass defended

 

 

I notice that he does get quite a few tackles himself, which is a good sign, although I don’t know college football, so I don’t know about any of these teams, or their players. He may play the pass quite a bit, or guys catch it and escape from him often which may result in why he does not have a bunch of tackles all the time(also being clogged up in the blockers some times) which is not a good sign out of him. he’s not a 1st round pick either, so in terms of value, he might be a good pickup, or at least worth a look.

 

Video Highlights from youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au-usamMd14

 

He reminds of Kirk Morrison to tell you the truth, onl he may be better against the run,but idk. His BIG pro potential(like kirks imo) is when he builds up strength, and awareness, he may be more similar to Patrick WIllis. :)

 

I kinda made this because darthdavis was high on this guy, and I wanted to see him for myself, and davis, I expect you may disagree with some of the things I said, mainly because I’m guessing you are a fan of Mayberry, but don’t worry, I think he can be successful in the nfl, especially if he improves on a few stuff.

 

also, note #2, I had this done at about 5:30 pm, but I had to go to judo, so I posted it just when I got home.

I don’t think he’ll be THAT good really.

by patriotguy2 on Mar 26, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

probably should of had this as a post...

by the way, i’m trying to do a consistent analysis on various players. I’m doing my homework on a MLB named Micah Johnson next, then a Guard for the silverandblackpridenation.

I’ll probably do a few here as well, and this list gives me some interests in a few players.

by patriotguy2 on Mar 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is definitely worthy of its own post

And with these players it’s really hard to tell if any of them will be THAT good and be able to translate their college strengths to the NFL. I think the Pats attended a private workout for Mayberry in Indiana a week ago, so he’s definitely on their radar.

Keep the faith!

by Marima on Mar 27, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two receivers

to grab if available in the Draft. Golden Tate From ND did everything but QB. Spectacular Catches, speed, Moss like.Probably won’t last. Garrett Graham, TE From Wisconsin. Decent Blocking TE with outstanding hands, with a nose for open field. All Big Ten… Outstanding Team player should be available into 3rd Round. Sleeper Pick.
Tim Tebow Mid round. Could make a decent Running back and Back up QB, Triple threat, Run pass Receive. Would have the state of Florida Evicting the Fish, Bucs and Jags if He wound up in New England.

by NJ Native on Mar 27, 2010 3:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Tate's projected as a first-rounder, and seems to be creeping up as the second WR behind Dez Bryant

Throw in the fact that he’s probably more attractive to some teams than Bryant, because Tate doesn’t have the discipline issues, and he might be off the draft board before the Pats even get a look at him.

I like that TE Graham, especially if he’s projected as a 3rd rounder and slips to the fourth, where the Pats actually have picks. A block-first TE who can run routes and has a nose for space is pretty much bang on what they want at this point. However, if he’s the same Graham I’m thinking of, he’s been projected up to anything in the second round, so it might never come to pass.

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by Comedic.Sans on Mar 27, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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